This is a breaking new episode from Furniture Industry News.
Speaker AI'm John.
Speaker BAnd I'm Elizabeth.
Speaker BAnd John, we have some major breaking news that's already sending ripples through the market.
Speaker AThat's right, Liz.
Speaker AIt's a big one.
Speaker APresident Donald Trump just announced via a post on Truth Social that he is launching a quote, major tariff investigation on furniture coming into United States.
Speaker BA major investigation.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BSo this is a formal process.
Speaker BThis could change everything.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AAnd he's putting a timeline on it.
Speaker AHe said, let me just pull up the post here.
Speaker AHe said the investigation will be completed within the next 50 days.
Speaker ASo this is moving fast.
Speaker B50 days, that is incredibly quick for a government investigation of this scale.
Speaker BWhat else did he say?
Speaker AWell, the key line is this, and I'm quoting again, furniture coming from other countries into the United States will be tariffed at a rate yet to be determined.
Speaker BYet to be determined.
Speaker BThat's the part that's going to make everyone nervous.
Speaker BThe uncertainty is the real killer here.
Speaker AHe's framing this as a move to bring the industry back home, specifically mentioning states like North Carolina, South Carolina and Michigan.
Speaker BA classic America first play for the furniture industry.
Speaker BIt's a bold promise, but you have to ask, at what cost?
Speaker AWell, the market is already trying to figure that out.
Speaker AWe're seeing after hours trading and it is not pretty for some of the big names.
Speaker BOh, I can imagine.
Speaker BI'm looking at it now.
Speaker BYep, shares of Wayfair, our house, even Williams, Sonoma and rh, they're all sliding on this headline.
Speaker AAnd it makes perfect sense, right?
Speaker AI mean, these are companies that rely heavily on imports.
Speaker ATheir entire business model is built around sourcing products from overseas where manufacturing is cheaper.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker BThey aren't the domestic manufacturers Trump is talking about protecting.
Speaker BThey're the importers who are, well, they're directly in the crosshairs.
Speaker ASo you have this immediate almost knee jerk reaction from investors saying, uh, oh, the cost of goods for these companies is about to go way up.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWhich means either their profit margins get crushed or, well, they pass that cost on to consumers.
Speaker BAnd we all know what that means for prices at the checkout.
Speaker ALet's dig into that.
Speaker AThat rate yet to be determined.
Speaker AIt could be anything from what, 10% to something much, much higher.
Speaker BAnd that's the issue.
Speaker BIf you're a buyer for a big retailer, how do you plan for the next quarter or next year?
Speaker BYou just can't.
Speaker BYou've no idea what your costs will be in 51 days.
Speaker AIt injects a massive level of uncertainty into the supply chain.
Speaker AAnd these things are planned months, sometimes over a year in advance.
Speaker AYou can't just flip a switch and start making all your furniture in North Carolina tomorrow.
Speaker BNo, absolutely not.
Speaker BThe infrastructure, a lot of it isn't even there anymore.
Speaker BRevitalizing, that would take years of huge, huge investment.
Speaker BIt's not that simple.
Speaker ASo in the short term, it seems like this primarily just makes furniture more expensive for the American consumer.
Speaker BI think that's the most likely immediate outcome.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe domestic manufacturing base will take a long time to scale up.
Speaker BIn the meantime, prices are going to go up, and you have to wonder about retaliation, too.
Speaker AThat's another angle.
Speaker AOther countries, they're not just going to sit back and take this.
Speaker AWe could see retaliatory tariffs on American exports.
Speaker AIt.
Speaker AIt could get very messy very fast.
Speaker BIt's a really complex web.
Speaker BYou pull one thread, and it's not just about furniture.
Speaker BIt's about global trade.
Speaker BSo what's the bottom line for people in the industry right now?
Speaker AI think it's wait and see.
Speaker AUnfortunately, all eyes are on this 50 day investigation.
Speaker AThe details are everything here.
Speaker AIs this a blanket tariff?
Speaker AIs it targeted at specific countries?
Speaker AThat's the huge question mark.
Speaker BA huge question mark.
Speaker BSo for the next, what, seven weeks, the industry is basically holding its breath.
Speaker BWe'll be watching those stocks and listening for any word from domestic manufacturers on whether they think this is, you know, a real opportunity or just a new headache.
Speaker AIt is definitely the biggest story in our world right now, and we will, of course, be following it every step of the way.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BThat's all the time we have for today.
Speaker BThanks for tuning in to furniture industry news for this breaking news episode.
Speaker AI'm John.
Speaker BAnd I'm Elizabeth.
Speaker BWe'll talk to you next time.