Speaker A

This is a breaking new episode from Furniture Industry News.

Speaker A

I'm John.

Speaker B

And I'm Elizabeth.

Speaker B

And John, we have some major breaking news that's already sending ripples through the market.

Speaker A

That's right, Liz.

Speaker A

It's a big one.

Speaker A

President Donald Trump just announced via a post on Truth Social that he is launching a quote, major tariff investigation on furniture coming into United States.

Speaker B

A major investigation.

Speaker B

Wow.

Speaker B

So this is a formal process.

Speaker B

This could change everything.

Speaker A

Exactly.

Speaker A

And he's putting a timeline on it.

Speaker A

He said, let me just pull up the post here.

Speaker A

He said the investigation will be completed within the next 50 days.

Speaker A

So this is moving fast.

Speaker B

50 days, that is incredibly quick for a government investigation of this scale.

Speaker B

What else did he say?

Speaker A

Well, the key line is this, and I'm quoting again, furniture coming from other countries into the United States will be tariffed at a rate yet to be determined.

Speaker B

Yet to be determined.

Speaker B

That's the part that's going to make everyone nervous.

Speaker B

The uncertainty is the real killer here.

Speaker A

He's framing this as a move to bring the industry back home, specifically mentioning states like North Carolina, South Carolina and Michigan.

Speaker B

A classic America first play for the furniture industry.

Speaker B

It's a bold promise, but you have to ask, at what cost?

Speaker A

Well, the market is already trying to figure that out.

Speaker A

We're seeing after hours trading and it is not pretty for some of the big names.

Speaker B

Oh, I can imagine.

Speaker B

I'm looking at it now.

Speaker B

Yep, shares of Wayfair, our house, even Williams, Sonoma and rh, they're all sliding on this headline.

Speaker A

And it makes perfect sense, right?

Speaker A

I mean, these are companies that rely heavily on imports.

Speaker A

Their entire business model is built around sourcing products from overseas where manufacturing is cheaper.

Speaker B

Exactly.

Speaker B

They aren't the domestic manufacturers Trump is talking about protecting.

Speaker B

They're the importers who are, well, they're directly in the crosshairs.

Speaker A

So you have this immediate almost knee jerk reaction from investors saying, uh, oh, the cost of goods for these companies is about to go way up.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

Which means either their profit margins get crushed or, well, they pass that cost on to consumers.

Speaker B

And we all know what that means for prices at the checkout.

Speaker A

Let's dig into that.

Speaker A

That rate yet to be determined.

Speaker A

It could be anything from what, 10% to something much, much higher.

Speaker B

And that's the issue.

Speaker B

If you're a buyer for a big retailer, how do you plan for the next quarter or next year?

Speaker B

You just can't.

Speaker B

You've no idea what your costs will be in 51 days.

Speaker A

It injects a massive level of uncertainty into the supply chain.

Speaker A

And these things are planned months, sometimes over a year in advance.

Speaker A

You can't just flip a switch and start making all your furniture in North Carolina tomorrow.

Speaker B

No, absolutely not.

Speaker B

The infrastructure, a lot of it isn't even there anymore.

Speaker B

Revitalizing, that would take years of huge, huge investment.

Speaker B

It's not that simple.

Speaker A

So in the short term, it seems like this primarily just makes furniture more expensive for the American consumer.

Speaker B

I think that's the most likely immediate outcome.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

The domestic manufacturing base will take a long time to scale up.

Speaker B

In the meantime, prices are going to go up, and you have to wonder about retaliation, too.

Speaker A

That's another angle.

Speaker A

Other countries, they're not just going to sit back and take this.

Speaker A

We could see retaliatory tariffs on American exports.

Speaker A

It.

Speaker A

It could get very messy very fast.

Speaker B

It's a really complex web.

Speaker B

You pull one thread, and it's not just about furniture.

Speaker B

It's about global trade.

Speaker B

So what's the bottom line for people in the industry right now?

Speaker A

I think it's wait and see.

Speaker A

Unfortunately, all eyes are on this 50 day investigation.

Speaker A

The details are everything here.

Speaker A

Is this a blanket tariff?

Speaker A

Is it targeted at specific countries?

Speaker A

That's the huge question mark.

Speaker B

A huge question mark.

Speaker B

So for the next, what, seven weeks, the industry is basically holding its breath.

Speaker B

We'll be watching those stocks and listening for any word from domestic manufacturers on whether they think this is, you know, a real opportunity or just a new headache.

Speaker A

It is definitely the biggest story in our world right now, and we will, of course, be following it every step of the way.

Speaker B

Absolutely.

Speaker B

That's all the time we have for today.

Speaker B

Thanks for tuning in to furniture industry news for this breaking news episode.

Speaker A

I'm John.

Speaker B

And I'm Elizabeth.

Speaker B

We'll talk to you next time.