Lane Kennedy (00:00)
I'm starting to like, my body shape is changing and I need more muscle. So like in my biohacking brain, I was already thinking I need to eat more protein,
and then waking up, you know, four weeks later, you know, I lost 25 pounds and they look like they're, you know, going to prison or something. Like they don't look that great or they're drug addicts because they're just so like they get that sunken.
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Jason Kidman (01:17)
You're so good at that.
Lane Kennedy (01:19)
that's our intro. Hi everyone, thanks for hanging out with us.
Jason Kidman (01:22)
Hi, Lane.
Lane Kennedy (01:23)
⁓ so good. I'm ready. I'm ready for this show.
Jason Kidman (01:25)
fun with
Lane Kennedy (01:26)
I'm gonna get comfortable.
Jason Kidman (01:26)
Yeah.
You
All right, GOPs.
But don't they come from snake venom?
Lane Kennedy (01:32)
Well, at some point.
That dragon.
Jason Kidman (01:35)
Does your body already have GLPs in them?
Lane Kennedy (01:39)
Well, I believe that they do. If your body's not broken.
Jason Kidman (01:42)
I believe they do too.
Yeah?
Lane Kennedy (01:46)
I mean, think about when GLPs came on the scene.
For us, I mean, it's been a while. But for others, they're just more recent.
Jason Kidman (01:56)
Yeah, the craze has really been the last, what, two, three years?
Lane Kennedy (02:00)
Yeah, to the last two years. Yeah. Because it was during the pandemic that I started playing with them. And I remember going on ⁓ a holiday with a girlfriend and she was like, what are you doing? What do you do? Like she couldn't wrap her head around it, you know? And then maybe...
Jason Kidman (02:03)
Yeah.
Mm.
On holiday,
are you from Canada, Lane? Are you from the UK?
Lane Kennedy (02:20)
No?
You don't say holiday? ⁓
Jason Kidman (02:24)
No, that's
what Canadians and the British say though.
Lane Kennedy (02:29)
The nice people.
Jason Kidman (02:31)
Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (02:32)
The Canadians, I love them. Okay, so no, I'm not Canadian and I'm definitely not from the UK. Although my heritage, I do have some. Anyways, that's another story.
Jason Kidman (02:42)
Oh, explains
it. That explains it. No, that's amazing. You got into them way back during COVID. So I was already pretty, had my feet pretty wet in peptides, but I never touched a GLP through probably till 2022 when I started experimenting with them. But by that time, I had already used every other peptide to lose 40 pounds.
Lane Kennedy (02:45)
Yeah, somewhere deep, deep, deep, deep.
Okay. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Jason Kidman (03:11)
I never used GLP.
Lane Kennedy (03:13)
believe you were 40 pounds heavier. Like just looking at you, I'm just like, how is that even possible? Where would you put that?
Jason Kidman (03:19)
I was skinny fat, so.
Lane Kennedy (03:21)
I would love to see, like we should have before and after pictures. ⁓
Jason Kidman (03:24)
Oh,
We'll throw in the picture of me when I was like almost dying in 2013 when I when I weighed 145 pounds. It awful. So right now I weigh about 173 175 and I was up to 205 and. Mm hmm. Yeah. And I thought my ideal weight was 165. So when I was like below 5 % body fat, which I think I still am, but.
Lane Kennedy (03:30)
Ugh.
Really?
Mm.
205, you? Whoa.
Jason Kidman (03:52)
when I was very just lean and I'm still lean but I've put on a lot of muscle in the last year but I maintained about 165 for a couple years and but yeah I got that way using growth hormone peptides and 5-amino-1-MQ, IGF LR3.
AOD9604, know, these other peptides, everything but GLPs because when I first heard about GLPs, it was semiglutide. And I heard too much crap about him. I was already prone to digestive issues. I wasn't going to touch him. And there was so much controversy about him at the beginning. And it wasn't until tirzepatide came out and it just was a game changer. Everybody loved tirzepatide, right?
Lane Kennedy (04:32)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, there was.
Yeah.
That's the... Yeah, that was the bandwagon that I jumped on, was the tersepidite. I was an early, early in on that one because I, during COVID, that first year, I put on like 30 pounds. I was up to, I want to say I got up to like 165, which for me is like right now. And I've gained some weight over the last, you know, couple of months because I'm not working out, but...
Jason Kidman (04:43)
But yeah, it's all in your experience.
Lane Kennedy (05:08)
I think my body fat was 20, I want to say 25%. Like it was like high 25, 24.5, like something like that body fat weighing 165. And I felt miserable. I had broken my foot so I couldn't work out again. And during the pandemic, it was like, all bets are off. Who knows what's going to happen to the world. I mean, croissants. So my husband and I would take the dogs on a walk and...
You know, everything was like through a little window, we'd get the croissant and keep walking. I'm just like, who cares? Every day. And they had these croissants. Oh my God. And I had been gluten free for 15 years, right? So I broke my abstinence. I was just like, let's go. They had these croissants with pistachio cream inside them. I was like, yeah.
Jason Kidman (05:43)
Like, Krithon, throw your smash in your pockets.
YUM YUM
⁓ wow.
Lane Kennedy (06:04)
Yeah, yeah. was, so I was in pretty desperate shape when I, when Terzapatide came on. was like, I need that right now. ⁓
Jason Kidman (06:08)
You
So you also,
you did skip the semaglutide though. Good. Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (06:19)
Completely skipped it. Yeah,
because I had read and I'd heard not great things. And I was like, why would I want to do that when this is available? you know, people got really controversial about the lizard, you know, because it was, what was it? The lizard, the dragon lizard. People were like, it's from a lizard. And it's like, you know what? This is a synthetic thing that they're making. This is not, they're not extracting this from this giant lizard people.
Like just the way people think, you know, it's like, okay. but I, I injected and I remember it shut down. It shut down that I want that croissant. Like I didn't want the croissant. The food noise was gone that day. And I was like, like I realized that I had gone through the whole day without.
Jason Kidman (07:00)
Mmm.
The food noise.
Lane Kennedy (07:13)
like craving, you know, my bag of salt, vinegar, potato chips or croissants.
So that was amazing. And then just, remember, you know, I cook dinner for the family every night and I would serve the plate and then I would try to eat it and I couldn't eat it. And my husband's like, what's wrong with you? I'm like, nothing, nothing's wrong with me. You know, I'm like stone cold, like lying. Nothing's wrong.
Jason Kidman (07:32)
You
Well, it's a thing because, you know, just to hit this out of the gates, being a patient at, in the past, at Holthorpe Medical and these doctors are kind of on the cutting edge of peptides and autoimmune disorders and things like that. you know, I'm always told by people, and this is what I've said in the past,
Lane Kennedy (07:38)
So yeah, I
Jason Kidman (08:06)
but I'm going to put a spin on it. So I'm going to tell you two different things. number one, it's like, you know, I, people say, I just feel better on terzepatide, right? Or now, retetrutide. I just feel better on it. Like, and, and I've said, it's not probably not the actual peptide making you feel better. Like you don't have a shortage of terzepatide.
Lane Kennedy (08:09)
Jason's been.
Yeah.
Jason Kidman (08:34)
in your body, But is what it is, it's the food noise is gone, the ability to or the lack of overeating is gone. And like, how do I feel when I overeat? I feel like garbage. And I know genetically through working with you that I genetically have a disposition to overeat, to want to. It's like I don't have a full button. I love to eat.
Lane Kennedy (08:58)
right.
Jason Kidman (08:59)
And so there's two things. Number one, yes, you can feel better from the GLPs because you don't eat as much and you don't eat as much processed food and garbage. So that's one thing. Now, back to the whole tour of reference is they have a patient base of hundreds and hundreds or thousands. And he told me, he said,
Lane Kennedy (09:18)
Yeah.
Jason Kidman (09:21)
He said, it's interesting because it doesn't really show up in the literature. But the common thing that we also see among everybody on a GLP is it does seem to have a inflammation reduction benefit.
a direct correlation from the peptide itself. And yes, GLPs are already in our body, right? So we're just adding a little extra. So I think our purpose here and our goal here today is to help people, number one, maybe bring out the light in them, like the good, because there's a lot of bad out there in the media.
Lane Kennedy (09:58)
Mm-hmm.
Jason Kidman (10:02)
maybe address why there is bad, but then also talk about how to prevent the bad stuff from happening. then number two would be how to actually build muscle while on a GLP.
Lane Kennedy (10:02)
Mm-hmm.
Well, let's back up for a minute because I think what was happening for so many women, and again, this, it tracks with the pandemic because so many women or people, the six people in general, but I notice women, because that's mostly my clientele, of going on these GLPs, being prescribed and not having the support. Not, you know, the doctors didn't understand what was actually happening.
in their bodies. And so us as biohackers, we were already realizing what was happening. And because we look at things through a different lens, like I knew, ⁓ I'm starting to like, my body shape is changing and I need more muscle. So like in my biohacking brain, I was already thinking I need to eat more protein, right? I was already thinking that way where other people were not.
they're just starving themselves every day. And then, and then waking up, you know, four weeks later, you know, I lost 25 pounds and they look like they're, you know, going to prison or something. Like they don't look that great or they're drug addicts because they're just so like they get that sunken.
Mm, look, right? So the Osempa phase, the Osempa rear end, just, so I think for our, like, for us, for the biohackers, like we were kind of ahead of the curve on that of like understanding the mechanism of action that was occurring, but for the most of the population and still today, people don't know how to use them, I don't think. I mean, I have a really, I have a couple of great dear friends on these GLPs for months taking
Jason Kidman (11:23)
Yeah, Ozempic face, yeah.
Lane Kennedy (11:50)
outrageous doses and they look
Jason Kidman (11:54)
Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (11:54)
and I
don't know how to like support them. You know, it's like, I say, are you eating enough protein? They're like, yeah, I'm drinking, I'm drinking my protein. That's kind of the running joke, but it's not a joke.
Jason Kidman (12:06)
Well, I could see that they have been trying for so long to lose weight. Number one, that could be one thing to try and they start losing it and then they're chasing a number on a scale and that's where they get their endorphin release, right? Like, I got another win today, I lost another pound. And then number two, I've also seen it where, you if you're going to be put on, you know, Ozympic or Monjuro, these things that are two grand a month.
Lane Kennedy (12:11)
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Jason Kidman (12:34)
for the pharmaceutical brand, you've normally got to be diabetic, right? Because they help reverse diabetes. And so if you have high A1C or if you're pre-diabetic, and if you already eat garbage all the time, and if you can actually reverse that A1C and no longer be diabetic, but you're still eating garbage,
then you're gonna end up with the big belly. You're still gonna lose weight. You're gonna have no butt. You're gonna lose all your muscle mass in your arms. You're get flat face and skinny legs. So that happens all the time. That is a traditional.
Jason Kidman (13:18)
that was weird.
Lane Kennedy (13:19)
Yeah, I don't know. Okay, so let me unmark it.
Jason Kidman (13:24)
So I was talking about the...
Where'd cut me off? Like the...
traditional way of GLPs, right?
So, you know, traditionally you're taking a dose once a week. So you get a big buildup and then it goes like this, right? It's like a roller coaster to the point where people can't wait for the next dose, right? I'm starting to get hungry again. And so the way to do it, you know, is to talk to your doctor about getting it in a form, whether it's compounded or whatnot.
where you can take it twice a week as a microdose or even three times a week. You wanna spread that out.
That's critical, that's crucial.
Lane Kennedy (14:03)
And I think, well, see, this again goes into the practitioners, the doctors, not really understanding this agent, this compound, right? I took a ⁓ course from the diabetes institute and this was coming out and this is an institution and they didn't know what to do with this.
Jason Kidman (14:26)
Mm-hmm.
Lane Kennedy (14:28)
And they were dosing like you were just saying, like one shot a week, a lot. Like I want to say 12 MGs or something. was like crazy amounts. just, and meanwhile, I'm thinking, this is not the way to do this. You're going to oversaturate your patient. Your patient's not going to, they're going to plateau. It's not going to be sustainable. So I don't know. just, it makes me sad. It makes me really sad.
Jason Kidman (14:51)
Mm-hmm.
Lane Kennedy (14:55)
that people are, I wanna say addicted to it a little bit. Maybe a little bit's not the right word, but there's definitely people are not listening to their body enough. And I just wonder where it's gonna go long-term. That scares me a little for people.
Jason Kidman (15:13)
Well, there's the single GLP, right? Semiglutide. There's a dual GLP-GIP, tirzepatide And now there's a triple. So adds the glucagon into it. That's retatrutide The thing I love about retatrutide is that glucagon actually has a metabolism boosting benefit. So it kind of retrains your body how to burn fat as fuel.
Lane Kennedy (15:17)
huh, huh.
Yeah. Yay.
Jason Kidman (15:43)
and how to use calories the right way. So it's not just starving you. So if you go on like TikTok or Instagram, the red true tide is such a trending word. I did my first TikTok ever. My daughter helped me do the post and I did a before and after picture and I did hashtag red true tide and I had within like four hours, I had 1200 likes. Insane, right?
Lane Kennedy (15:47)
Mm-hmm.
You did? my gosh. ⁓
Mm-hmm.
That's
awesome.
Jason Kidman (16:12)
What
I forgot to do, I forgot to put in the actual picture, you know, follow my story more at Omega Elite, you know, join the community, whatever. And it's was all down in the written stuff. What I did not know about TikTok, I say out of TikTok, is that, you know, nobody reads anything in there. They just scroll. Right. So for what it's worth. And that's fine. Like, but that just shows you how
Lane Kennedy (16:16)
Hmm.
Great.
No, reads anymore. No? Uh-huh.
Jason Kidman (16:41)
popular GLPs are. Like if you want to get a lot of views and a lot of hits, do GLP and do Rytatrutide. Terzepotide yes and no. Terzepotide has been banned from, for the most part, from the research world and from even from compounding pharmacies. So do I? Yeah, I do. Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (16:43)
Mm-hmm.
Do you have any? Uh-huh. And your stash? I do too. Yeah, I know. It's just so good. I don't know. It's just so good. But I like retitude
now too though, so I'm, you know.
Jason Kidman (17:08)
Yeah, and there's still
ways to get trisepatide, right? Like there's still ways to get it. ⁓ But interestingly enough, when trisepatide was available and retetrutide was available, then the best biohacking method was to microdose them both. So the trisepatide is the best at satiety and keeping the food noise away. And retetrutide is the best at metabolism, know, inducing the right metabolism.
Lane Kennedy (17:11)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Jason Kidman (17:36)
So what I'm going to suggest would be, you know, a micro micro dose of both. But of course, like Rettutrute Tide is still in what is a phase three clinical trials. It's not quite yet the next billion dollar weight loss drug, but it will be. And there was apparently a quad GLP that was coming down the line. I don't know. That might have been BS. I think it was a hoax, but
Lane Kennedy (17:41)
Mm-hmm.
Jason Kidman (18:01)
I think they're working on a whatever the word is for a six. And the sixth part though is going to have other things, including from what I hear. think it might have clotho. Clotho, clotho. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking like it's adding, it's adding multiple things to it that are going to be, it could be insanely incredible. And if they pull that off, like that's going to be a billion dollar one overnight. So.
Lane Kennedy (18:10)
What?
Okay, Betsy.
That'll be good.
That would
be good. I would use that. See, I'm like, I'm excited again. I'm excited. So what can we share with our listeners around? I mean, microdosing is one thing and not using it every day and not using it once a day or once a week at a high dose. But we need to consider, you know, the doctors have told them how to do it incorrectly or in a way that's
Jason Kidman (18:30)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Lane Kennedy (18:51)
It can be dangerous. Dangerous not the right word, but how can, you know, like, let's talk about protein. Let's just get down to brass tacks and like what I like to talk about. Like, let's get down to lifestyle, right? Like what are the lifestyle things that, you know, she needs to, or he needs to do in order to maintain and not get that sickly look because they look sick or they get like soft, you know, there's like a
Jason Kidman (19:13)
Yeah.
Okay, can I address that? Because I've done some sound effects.
Lane Kennedy (19:17)
Yes. I mean, I know what I do because I'm trying all day long to
maintain my protein, but what else are you going to serve up?
Jason Kidman (19:24)
Okay,
so the GLPs have two major side effects. One is gonna be muscle wasting, and the other one is gut paralysis. Gut paralysis means meaning that it slows down the motility of your gut. So you might not poop for days. That is not good, not good at all. So when I was kind of mentored on this years ago by somebody who's, I'll just say semi-famous in the biohacking world,
Lane Kennedy (19:31)
Yeah.
bad.
Jason Kidman (19:52)
been quoted in multiple books, among other things he said, Jason, don't ever tell somebody to talk to their doctor about taking a GLP-1 without also doing these things that their doctor won't tell them to do. And that would be microdose it, minimum twice a week, and this was terzepatide back then, and four magnesium breakthroughs a night. Magnesium breakthrough is by mass...
is by bioptimizers. I think you're familiar with them. Yeah. So why that company, why that brand? Well, for one thing, go on Amazon. It's got 12,000 reviews of their product and it's 4.9 out of 5 stars. It's the most popular magnesium on the planet, but it has seven forms of magnesium in one capsule and including some of the more crappy versions of magnesium like magnesium oxide. We'll take that.
Well, magnesium oxide, one of the best things that it's good for is keeping movement of the gut alive. You know, we've all heard of milk and magnesium, that over-the-counter medicine. Yeah, right. Like magnesium, generally speaking, has a laxative effect depending on what form you use. But when you use magnesium breakthrough, you get all the good kinds. You get glycinate, which is good for calming. You get malate, which is good for muscles. You get tarate, which is good for brain health.
Lane Kennedy (20:51)
⁓ do not take that. Never.
Mm-hmm. Right.
Thank
Yep. Yep.
Jason Kidman (21:11)
Yeah, look at that, we're on the same page.
And it gets citrate, which is kind of like average for everything, but good for gut as well. Yeah. So that product right there, work up to four, take four right away, you're gonna have diarrhea the next day. But start with one or two, then over time work up to four. And then also there's a product called Health Force Intestinal Formula that has herbs and all sorts of natural stuff in it.
Lane Kennedy (21:19)
It's kind of overall that's how I look at it.
Jason Kidman (21:40)
that their bottle size you can take up to 12 a day. I'm not a representative of either of these companies. We do stock and sell by optimizers, magnesium breakthrough. But when we're selling the other one, we buy it on Amazon, we resell it for the same price. It's convenience.
Lane Kennedy (21:46)
it.
So I just want to mention one more thing before you keep going, is that with the bio-optimizers, I just looked at the dose on it here. Two capsules is 500 milligrams. I always tell clients that they can go up to like 800. So don't be afraid of it, is what I want to just kind of chime in on that. Keep going.
Jason Kidman (22:12)
Yeah, okay.
⁓
Okay, so that's really cool. You tell people 800, that's a nice amount. ⁓
Lane Kennedy (22:25)
Yeah,
we're undernourished. okay, keep going.
Jason Kidman (22:28)
Yeah, it's
like iodine. We're in a goiter bill, you know, so if we're landlocked, we need iodine. But I think we're all short on magnesium unless you're eating lots of leafy greens. Now, next up would be, okay, what's another thing we can do to prevent muscle wasting and help improve muscle building? A growth hormone peptide.
Lane Kennedy (22:33)
Yes!
We need a...
Yeah, and nobody is.
Jason Kidman (22:55)
So ipamoralin, CGC 1295, tesamoralin, et cetera.
Lane Kennedy (22:59)
Tessa Morellen.
Love it. I love me some Tessa.
Jason Kidman (23:02)
Surmorellan? Nah, that's like old school kind of cheap stuff, right?
Lane Kennedy (23:04)
No.
Do you use Tessa Morellin? that in your protocol at all or no?
Jason Kidman (23:11)
Yeah, on and off. kind of bounce on and off.
So my, mean, CJC Ipamirallin was my kind of gold standard for the two years when I made all my progress. That was five amino and AOD. so, and Tessa is just more on the pricey side. That's what that comes down to, just the cost. ⁓ But when I tell people that, ⁓ yeah, if you have access to human growth hormone and
Lane Kennedy (23:18)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
got it yeah growth growth hormone you said that right growth hormone just straight up
Jason Kidman (23:37)
under the care of a doctor, that's a great option, right? If you're a good.
Lane Kennedy (23:41)
Yeah, that was a game
changer for me.
Jason Kidman (23:44)
Yeah, I remember that. ⁓ So anyway, addressing growth hormone one way or the other. And it might be good to work with your doctor to get tested. Like what are your IGF-1 levels to start with? But if you're really, really low in that, in your IGF-1, then even the growth hormone peptides might have trouble getting you a pulse of natural growth hormone. And at that point, it'd be good to talk to your physician about HGH.
Lane Kennedy (23:46)
Mm-hmm.
And we don't want you wasting money, right? So make sure, like, yeah, really get your numbers checked, work with somebody on this. So you're not just like, I heard Jason Lane say, get some ipamerella in or some test that, right? Like really kind of pause here and be considerate. Cause you know, once you start getting into this and you can just spend money, just like it goes all over the place. Cause you're having fun and you're trying to get results. So.
Jason Kidman (24:14)
Yeah.
And you are getting results. That's what's insane. You get results fast. ⁓ yeah. Now to finish that off, would be, you you want to get aim for your target body weight in grams of protein a day. So if I weighed 205, my target weight was 165, then 160 grams of protein is my target. Do whatever it takes. And that's why I have this to share with you. My smoothie.
Lane Kennedy (24:40)
Yes, right. That's her zepetide is like boom.
Yeah.
Jason Kidman (25:08)
So
my smoothie recipe I got, you can mix this to be anywhere from 40 to 60 grams of protein per shake, per smoothie with a meal replacement, with some liver detox, with MSM and creatine. So creatine is huge and with the greens powder, right? All the above, mushroom powder as well. creatine is the other, like full necessity. That would be,
Lane Kennedy (25:36)
an absolute must.
Jason Kidman (25:38)
That would be there to help maintain muscle mass and it's so good for the brain It's so good for the brain like it's so under appreciated for what it does for the brain There's a lot of like leading physicians out there and biohackers that are saying five grams a day. No try 25 you know, I don't know the answer to that but ⁓ Yeah, I don't see a big downside, you know
Lane Kennedy (25:44)
Yes.
Yeah, I do. I'm doing 10 in the morning and 10 at night, man. I'm like, just, yeah.
now.
Jason Kidman (26:08)
to create a team. then intermittent fasting is huge. So eat your last meal, 6.30, be done. Don't touch food until 10, 11 o'clock the next day. And that's gonna give you like 16 to 18 hours of intermittent fasting. And in the morning, yeah.
Lane Kennedy (26:25)
Jason,
you know what though? I'm going to time out on that one because not everybody, you know, can do, not everybody should be fasting that long, especially for females. Females, I think they need to jumpstart their day with that protein load. So maybe the clock shifts a little bit where the, you know, a woman's last meal is at five o'clock.
Jason Kidman (26:33)
Not a ritual.
Okay.
Lane Kennedy (26:51)
And then she's starting her day off with that 40 grams of protein, like, you know, 8 a.m. in the morning. She's going to have a completely different experience. I think the fasting window for women, you don't need, you know, some women are crazy about it, but I think it starts to screw up the hormones and it's too many things.
Jason Kidman (26:56)
Yeah.
And that's
And that's end
of these three other, that's still 15 hours, that's still really good. And not only that, but I've learned through working with you that for me, and it's all genetic too, for me and my genetics, I strive with intermittent fasting. And it's no wonder why I feel best in the morning for three, four, five hours before I've eaten. I just feel best. And I can go have the hardest workout of my life and be
Lane Kennedy (27:12)
Yeah.
Jason Kidman (27:36)
fasted and I'll feel fine but if you're not to that level yet of maybe you're not healthy enough to do that then that's bad like that's a bad idea but that also introduces the last thing I was gonna say is is electrolytes. You know having electrolytes in the morning as a pre-workout post-workout along with your aminos and whatever other things you're do is essential to keep that you know keep that your body able to support your what you're doing.
Lane Kennedy (28:06)
So let's talk about some of those companies, because I think this is kind of all over the place. And somebody in my situation with the chronic fatigue and the dysautonomia, I have to start my day with those electrolytes. If not, I'm on the floor. So if anybody's suffering from chronic fatigue, try. I think there's different.
Jason Kidman (28:22)
⁓ wow.
Ooh.
Lane Kennedy (28:31)
companies, use both trace elements and I use beam and I switch back and forth throughout the day because otherwise I'm just not able to get up and go. that could, that might be, those might be really great companies to check out.
Jason Kidman (28:46)
I'm kind Googling it right now because I haven't heard of those. I'm kind of guessing that one might have like far less amounts, one might be more natural. Oh, I didn't know trace minerals. They're based out of Utah.
Lane Kennedy (29:00)
Yeah, I like the trace because I get the lithium and actually when I do the trace, I feel a little bit like, ⁓ yay, you know, the other beam is more, what's it called? What's it called? The fulmic acid, the ful, the humic fulvic blend. And then I also have the Shilligit.
Jason Kidman (29:14)
of
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Lane Kennedy (29:22)
You know, just again, I'm mixing things up because I don't want to get one. I again, I want my body to experience different brands. I don't want it to get committed to one and then it just kind of shuts it down, right? Just like says, nope, I'm not going to have that anymore. I'm not going to take on that. So I'm rotating through things.
Jason Kidman (29:34)
Yeah.
And I think there's a lot of uncertainty out there about because there's all these new ones like element tea, which I love, know, and salts, you know, they're going really high sodium, like from salt. And I think that's really good if you're sweating a lot and working out a lot. But I don't know if that's really good if you're just drinking it to drink it.
Lane Kennedy (29:46)
Mm-hmm. Yep, yep.
I'm gonna agree with you there and, know, genetically speaking, you might not be able to handle it, right? Because there's a couple of genes that are, can hurt you vascular wise.
Jason Kidman (30:13)
I'd like to know genetically where I sit in that, honestly. Because when I feel really groggy and tired in the afternoon, and if I take half of an LM &T and with a little bit of magnesium powder, of the magnesium breakthrough powder, and I guzzle like this much, talking like 24 ounces, within 20 minutes I feel alive and really good. But I'm not going to take a full packet. I'm not going to do
Lane Kennedy (30:19)
Yeah.
Jason Kidman (30:39)
you know, not too much, but still that's 500 milligrams of sodium, but from salt.
Lane Kennedy (30:44)
Well,
think, you know, a sodium is kind of like giving you that kickstart to your heart, to your system, to everything, right? So you found your sweet spot.
Jason Kidman (30:53)
And then there's Dr. Berg, he has his electrolyte product, which is thousand milligrams of potassium. And he believes that potassium is far more important than sodium. And I have a practitioner back where I moved from and she's amazing. She's an awesome ultra marathon runner and she's full, like that said that everybody needs more potassium and not as much sodium. And so I think, but I think it's individual.
Lane Kennedy (30:59)
Mm-hmm.
completed.
I'm gonna say it's more individual because again, we've got the genetic component. We've got what we're putting into our bodies are so unique to everybody. Everybody's diet is so different. The way that we process those vitamins and minerals, everybody, it's, you've got to find out what works for you. And that's, I'm just gonna go back to like, I use both the trace and the beam and the shallot stuff.
Right, just kind of cycling it through giving my body different options to fire. And I use the element too, the salt, but that's not every day because of the citric acid. So it's, you know.
Jason Kidman (31:47)
Thank
Yeah. That's probably
for you when you were like on the bike a lot, that's probably more applicable at that point.
Lane Kennedy (32:02)
Yeah.
Yeah. So it's, just, going back to the Ozempic or the, you know, GLPs, it's like finding again, what works for you, but making sure that you get them because you need them as you're kind of transforming your body in a, I don't know, a gentle way. You don't want to deplete yourself. And that's what I think we see so often.
Jason Kidman (32:26)
Well, I got to kind of wrap up something about the lizard venom. I did a little deep dive on this, about a five second deep dive. And the synthetic version of Extendin-4, so Extendin-4 came from the lizard. And that was what they identified the name of the molecule to be.
Lane Kennedy (32:32)
Yeah.
Okay.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Jason Kidman (32:54)
That became the drug called exenatide. Notice the last, notice the tide. Bieta is a trade name which was approved for type 2 diabetes. So exenatide was the synthetic version of the lizard venom. And then following that, a whole class of GLP1 receptor agonists emerged.
Lane Kennedy (32:58)
Yep.
I love it.
Jason Kidman (33:22)
which started with semiglutide or aka ozempic. So ozempic and retatrutide and turzeptide have nothing really to do with lizard venom other than lizard venom was kind of the kickstart to it all in a roundabout way. Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (33:38)
Kickstarted it. Yeah. Yeah, I kickstarted.
It was like the beginning. was like, here, let's check this out.
Jason Kidman (33:43)
pretty fascinating. who like should anybody not is anybody not a candidate for GOP? Like what if you're already at 8 % body fat?
Lane Kennedy (33:45)
So cool.
Yeah, no, you're not using this. I would say no. I would say no to that.
Jason Kidman (33:57)
No need.
Unless you have some inflammation that maybe the GLP one could help. Or maybe something like BPC would be better for you than that, right? I'd agree with that. Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (34:06)
Yes, yes. Yeah.
Because, you know, there is, because it shuts things down, right? It just kind of like quiets all of the thinking, you know, it's been used in addiction and people love it in that, in that world. But if you're already, you know, thin as a rail and you don't need to lose weight, this is not going to be a good fit for you. There are other peptides that you could use, that you could...
Jason Kidman (34:19)
And.
Lane Kennedy (34:34)
go on an adventure with.
Jason Kidman (34:36)
Speaking of addiction, a tersepidide, a GLP-1 tersepidide with something like cerebral lysine for brain regeneration and saline for GABA support is a great three-way support for alcohol withdrawal.
Lane Kennedy (34:45)
Yeah.
That's really good. Yeah.
Jason Kidman (34:56)
Yeah,
kind of hit it from three angles.
Lane Kennedy (35:00)
Yeah. So I don't know. I think this is a great way for people to go, you know, if they want to try it, if they're like curious, it's an easy peptide to start on because then the needle does move. There are people though that it doesn't people, some people are like, it doesn't do anything for me. And then I would say, you know what, try it like with terzapatite, I'm thinking it didn't do anything for me.
or with the stomach didn't do anything. Well, then try the Reddit and see if that works. And if it doesn't, then it's a microbiome situation and you got to get your microbiome tightened up and work lifestyle first.
Jason Kidman (35:33)
Well, we do know that there's a oral version out now in preclinical. You can buy it research-based. BioLongevity has it. I have a bottle of it here. I ever tell you that? Let me show you. I gotta show you the name of it because it's gonna be a... Yeah.
Lane Kennedy (35:38)
Mm-hmm.
guess. You bought from bio-longevity? ⁓ god.
Ugh.
Jason Kidman (35:53)
I gotta test everything, Lane. ⁓
Lane Kennedy (35:55)
I know, I know, I know.
It's good that you do this. It's good. Let's see it.
Jason Kidman (35:59)
We
do have a 15 % discount with them too, but it's or for Glippron.
Lane Kennedy (36:07)
put it up towards the camera up.
Zap-a-tite? Is that what it's called?
Jason Kidman (36:11)
Yeah, but the main ingredient is that. I know you can read that. Orphro...
Lane Kennedy (36:13)
Okay, can't read it.
Okay. Well, you haven't opened it yet. You haven't opened it. You're not going to. Yeah, nothing.
Jason Kidman (36:22)
I've taken like two or three. The problem
is you really got to take like four capsules a day to six capsules a day. And it's so expensive. it's a future, more of a future experiment. It's all about trying to find things for people that are scared of needles and they refuse to try, right? So ⁓ yeah. And I do like the, they have a few really neat.
Lane Kennedy (36:29)
⁓ god no.
No.
Yep. Yep.
Jason Kidman (36:49)
capsule products that nobody else really has. I think that comes from some of the work that Alex Kegel was doing before they had a weird falling out of some sort. like anything he designed is usually pretty, pretty top notch. yeah, I don't know.
Lane Kennedy (36:56)
Yep, I'm sure.
Pretty solid. Yeah.
Jason Kidman (37:05)
to each other own, I guess, right?
Lane Kennedy (37:07)
Right. Well,
I think that this is a great place to wrap up because we've given our listeners a lot to consider. Ideas, places, things to go and get these GLPs. You can jump into the Omega community, hang out with us there. And I think you have a class in there too, right? You have a session.
Jason Kidman (37:31)
⁓ Yeah, in fact, I actually have a couple of video seminars on GOPs on top of the main master class on peptides and health, longevity, just the full shebang. But in addition to that, I do have actual GOP seminars as well.
Lane Kennedy (37:32)
workshop.
Yep. Yeah.
⁓ So I want to go back to our client Mike, our medicine man.
I want to give an update because I spoke with him yesterday and I sent him his protocol. In his genetics, know, he's got the snip that could mean that he is a celiac and he was like floored by this. And I said, just go off, just try going off gluten or bread, right? Just go off, just try it, just try it.
Jason Kidman (38:14)
⁓
Mm-hmm.
Lane Kennedy (38:19)
So he called me yesterday, he goes, my life has changed, Lane. I said, what you talking about? He's like, I can't believe how much better I feel. I just thought that that's how I was gonna be for the rest of my life.
Jason Kidman (38:35)
I thought he already felt pretty good.
Lane Kennedy (38:37)
And he, that's what I'm saying, he already felt good, but now he even feels.
Jason Kidman (38:40)
Yeah.
Wow.
Lane Kennedy (38:42)
Yeah, so that's our update on our medicine man and he's doing fantastic. I know. Did you know that we have a hyperbaric chamber as well?
Jason Kidman (38:47)
I want to be like him in 30 years.
He, what, he did?
Lane Kennedy (38:55)
He does.
Jason Kidman (38:57)
on a regular basis. That's crazy. What a great guy.
Lane Kennedy (38:58)
Yes!
He's like my hero. He's
just, he's my hero. mean, he is a true like, I just love him. Anyways, I just wanted to give everyone an update on that. yeah. Thanks for hanging out with us and Jason, thanks for all your wisdom. It's always good hanging out with you and I hope to see everyone in the community.
Jason Kidman (39:07)
Hahaha
Thank you for that. I wanted to hear that too.
All right, thank you, Lane. Love you all.
Lane Kennedy (39:26)
Bye.