Today's topic does not really need an introduction.
Speaker:I'm going to speak today about the untold journey of the masculine.
Speaker:We see this playing out in today's world.
Speaker:I'm going to name it.
Speaker:The journey from bad boy to spiritual fuckboy, and then hopefully,
Speaker:eventually to awakened man.
Speaker:There is humor in this, yes, but I'm serious.
Speaker:This is playing out more than ever before.
Speaker:So many men get stuck in the bad boy archetype or in the spiritual
Speaker:fuckboy, spiritual bypassing archetype.
Speaker:What does it really mean to shift from these stages of evolution
Speaker:into being an awakened man?
Speaker:How can women discern?
Speaker:So this episode is for both men and women.
Speaker:Today will be intense, today will be raw, but never from a place
Speaker:of shaming anyone, men or women.
Speaker:From a place of truth and fierce compassion.
Speaker:Welcome to the Masculine and Feminine Dynamics podcast.
Speaker:My name is Lorin Krenn.
Speaker:I'm a coach, author, and hypnotherapist.
Speaker:I help you to understand masculine and feminine dynamics.
Speaker:Let's dive in.
Speaker:The bad boy phase is the archetypical start.
Speaker:It's man driven by raw last, the chase, the need for conquest and
Speaker:conquering, to be seen in that, to prove his worth through that.
Speaker:There is a very strong ego and deep rooted wounds at the core here.
Speaker:He seems powerful on the outside, but is always, not often, always
Speaker:deeply insecure on the inside.
Speaker:Everything is driven by the need for validation.
Speaker:There is no healthy sense of wholeness, integration, self-worth.
Speaker:There is no sense of service thinking of the greater good of all.
Speaker:There is a complete lack of awareness of integrity, presence,
Speaker:empathy, emotional attunement.
Speaker:There's a huge disconnect from all these things.
Speaker:The reason why women are drawn to the bad boy is not because he's safe or
Speaker:because he's consistent or stable.
Speaker:They're drawn to him because there is a charge to him.
Speaker:It's almost intoxicating, his unapologetic desire, his rawness, his boldness.
Speaker:He's got an edge to him.
Speaker:He's wild, he's primal, but he's not channeling this primal energy
Speaker:in a good way, in greater service.
Speaker:He's channeling it to strengthen his own ego.
Speaker:So the polarity that women experience with such a man is real.
Speaker:But what's an illusion is that this man will be stable or safe or consistent.
Speaker:Many women try to change this man.
Speaker:They go, you feel intoxicated, and the charge that you feel is real, it's
Speaker:not fake and it's not an illusion.
Speaker:It's just, it's not safe.
Speaker:And also it comes at the cost of broken trust, betrayal, emotional chaos, a
Speaker:total lack of integrity, no consistency.
Speaker:You cannot rely on the bad boy.
Speaker:He doesn't respect himself, and therefore he doesn't respect others, he's got
Speaker:no concept of the idea of respect ultimately, and honor and integrity.
Speaker:And even though there might be an intoxicating charge, it's shallow.
Speaker:There is no sacred intimacy.
Speaker:There is no true presence at play here.
Speaker:When I was in my self-centered archetype, in my journey of
Speaker:evolution, I only cared about myself.
Speaker:I only thought of myself.
Speaker:I was completely emotionally unavailable, not attuned to
Speaker:anything going on around me.
Speaker:I noticed that I was so disconnected from that, that a huge part of my journey
Speaker:was to shift out of that was actually to connect deeply with integrity, with doing
Speaker:what is right, embodying and speaking my truth, and I had to move through deep
Speaker:shame and pain of having lived out of integrity with myself and with the world.
Speaker:The reason why this is so hard is because at first the journey creates more shame.
Speaker:I say this to all the men in my men's groups, when we first claiming integrity,
Speaker:none of us feel cool or great, or Wow, how empowering we actually feel shame.
Speaker:Not because the shame wasn't there, and now it's here.
Speaker:It was always there.
Speaker:You cannot hurt others, show up like a complete arse in this world
Speaker:and feel good about yourself.
Speaker:You, it's impossible.
Speaker:That shame is there.
Speaker:The shame of being out of integrity, the shame of not speaking truth, the shame of
Speaker:not thinking of the greater good for all.
Speaker:It's always there.
Speaker:It's just the bad boy is numbed out from it.
Speaker:Now, this is where it leads us into the, the next phase.
Speaker:We can call it the spiritual bypasser, or we can call it the spiritual fuckboy
Speaker:phase, to be even more vulgar about it.
Speaker:Now, the bad boy or the self-centered man eventually meets his limits.
Speaker:He might experience heartbreak.
Speaker:He might genuinely realize that he was in love, he couldn't be stable, he couldn't
Speaker:be consistent, and now for the first time, he starts to experience a deep pain
Speaker:because he lost a woman he deeply cared about, but he only realized too late.
Speaker:He might suddenly have a deep epiphany and moment of realization of how empty
Speaker:his life is, that there is no substance, there is no depth, there is no purpose.
Speaker:Everything is so empty and superficial, and that can almost lead to a sense of
Speaker:spiritual depression, which is painful, but also starts to the return of
Speaker:sensitivity, emotional attunement, being able to feel, to care to be present.
Speaker:So painful but important because on the flip side of that is the heart,
Speaker:is the emotional attunement that this man actually needs in his evolution.
Speaker:And while this sounds great and it is great, what can happen here is
Speaker:that as a man goes down that path and has a genuine epiphany and genuine
Speaker:insights, they're not an illusion or fake, but his ego and shadow take over
Speaker:once again and start to spiritualize his desires instead of healing them.
Speaker:This is where the spiritual bypassing or the spiritual fuckboy stage comes in.
Speaker:This man might say, now it's all about energy, connection, sacred
Speaker:sexuality, divine union, all the right language is being used, and he even
Speaker:believes that language himself, but it's still there for him or using
Speaker:women to feel good about himself.
Speaker:That wound with the feminine hasn't gone anywhere.
Speaker:It has just become spiritualized.
Speaker:Now the conquest is wrapped in spiritual language.
Speaker:He might be at a festival, dancing, an ecstatic dance,
Speaker:burning the sage and seeing how divine and holy it this moment is.
Speaker:But deep down, he's using women, he's taking, he's coming from a, taking energy.
Speaker:Am I judging this man?
Speaker:I can definitely say it's completely out of integrity, but judging, no.
Speaker:Because the harsh truth is most men don't do this consciously.
Speaker:No excuse, I know.
Speaker:We all have to take responsibility and hold ourselves accountable, but most
Speaker:men don't do any of this consciously.
Speaker:That drive, that last, it just takes over.
Speaker:This man might use the right words, goddess, divine feminine, talks about
Speaker:sacred intimacy and going deeper, but that superficial last and conquest, and using
Speaker:women to feel better about himself, that that core wound of needing validation,
Speaker:which often comes from a little boy who, who's felt abandoned, neglected, rejected,
Speaker:unseen, unmet, underneath is still a self-serving desire, still unconsciously
Speaker:addicted to the novelty, the conquest the validation, but it's harder to spot.
Speaker:It's all cloaked in, in spiritual language, in the breath
Speaker:work, cacao, the ayahuasca.
Speaker:These things are powerful, they're beautiful, they're potent, they're sacred.
Speaker:But you can use a sacred tool for self-serving interests.
Speaker:It's a fundamental truth of life.
Speaker:We are more powerful than the tool.
Speaker:And ultimately the tool only reveals or is an amplification of
Speaker:our intention and our true desire.
Speaker:And if someone does these things to still go and chase women and get validation,
Speaker:and get validation for sexual conquest, the tool is not going to help a lot.
Speaker:The holy cacao is not gonna unfold its power because the
Speaker:intention is dirty behind it.
Speaker:So again, these tools are powerful.
Speaker:They are incredibly potent, but what's even more potent is who you
Speaker:decide to be and what your genuine intention is for all these things.
Speaker:You will know in any sacred ceremony, if it's a breathwork, a cow, ayahuasca,
Speaker:whatever ceremony it is, you will know, for instance, with a very good
Speaker:shaman that it's all about intention.
Speaker:The danger here is that women will often think they've found an awakened
Speaker:man, and the man will think that he's become awakened, even though he's still
Speaker:operating from that need for validation, using and taking energy, taking from
Speaker:the feminine because it's the wound of the feminine hasn't been truly faced.
Speaker:The heartbreak for women here cuts even deeper because you can't really say, oh,
Speaker:he was just an arse, You say, he said all the right things, it felt amazing.
Speaker:I thought he was different.
Speaker:But same pain, the same lack of integrity.
Speaker:At the end of it, still talking to his ex, cheating, lying, omitting
Speaker:information, which is a form of lying, spiritualizing things.
Speaker:It's very easy to, to hate on this man, to say, oh, how dare he?
Speaker:What a, and I understand.
Speaker:I understand how painful this is.
Speaker:But at the same time, I can assure you.
Speaker:Most men don't do this consciously.
Speaker:It's a deep wound, and again, we have to take responsibility.
Speaker:There's no excuse for our behavior, but it's unconscious for many, many
Speaker:men, and I've helped so many men guided them through this journey.
Speaker:Obviously they came to me because they realized they wanted to change something.
Speaker:I cannot help someone who is in a total spiritual fuckboy state because that
Speaker:man is not realizing what is going on, he's still playing the game of hiding
Speaker:from himself, hiding from his shadows.
Speaker:But when a man sees through that, he will often come to me and he
Speaker:will say, something needs to change.
Speaker:the reason why I've got so much compassion and no judgment is because
Speaker:if everyone here listening, both men and women, if you would see behind
Speaker:the scenes when I guide these men, you would see a man with a big heart.
Speaker:You would see a little boy who's been completely abandoned.
Speaker:Not always, there's some real narcissists out there who are absolutely deliberately
Speaker:manipulating, taking and doing things that are so out of integrity, but
Speaker:here I'm really talking about a man who's so trapped, has been neglected,
Speaker:abandoned, never had a proper masculine role model, and he's so lost in that.
Speaker:A man who is in the spiritual bypassing state simply hasn't
Speaker:truly gone deep enough.
Speaker:They haven't yet seen the extent of their wounding and need for
Speaker:validation with the feminine.
Speaker:They haven't seen that this is at the core of what they need to work through
Speaker:to actually evolve in consciousness.
Speaker:They're focusing on all the things that are wrong that don't make any difference.
Speaker:You can't become present without actually facing the emotions you are avoiding.
Speaker:It's bullshit.
Speaker:It's fake.
Speaker:You can't access higher states of consciousness through a powerful ceremony
Speaker:until you actually sit with the raw shame, regret, and pain you have caused.
Speaker:There is no airy fairy escaping, and now I'm awakened without going into the dirt,
Speaker:without actually facing the really painful things that we're still running from.
Speaker:And here many men get stuck.
Speaker:They don't fully evolve out of it, but there is a third stage in the evolution.
Speaker:This is where a man moves beyond performance and projection.
Speaker:A man who stops spiritualizing things and actually asks
Speaker:himself what am I doing here?
Speaker:Is this really the way I want to live?
Speaker:Am I a man of my world?
Speaker:Am I embodying and living truth?
Speaker:Am I being in service or am I still taking and using others for my own ego?
Speaker:This need to be seen as powerful, as spiritual, as special starts to slowly
Speaker:dissipate and instead an enormous devotion to truth, integrity, and presence emerges.
Speaker:The spirituality is no longer up in the air.
Speaker:It becomes grounded.
Speaker:It becomes about doing what is right, even when it's hard.
Speaker:Speaking truth, even when it's not easy taking ownership and no
Speaker:longer hiding from the deeper pain.
Speaker:Intimacy is no longer a transaction.
Speaker:It becomes an offering.
Speaker:It has a much deeper sacred quality to it.
Speaker:There is an actual giving in the bedroom, not a taking in
Speaker:the bedroom from the feminine.
Speaker:There is a deep actual embodied reverence.
Speaker:He doesn't pursue polarity to get more sex.
Speaker:Polarity becomes an expression of his truth.
Speaker:The whole awakened man is not about getting more women into bed.
Speaker:It's because that's who he truly chooses to be at the deepest level behind
Speaker:the scenes when no one is watching.
Speaker:Because the truth is this.
Speaker:A man who's a bad boy, a man who's a spirit of fuckboy, none
Speaker:of them truly respect themselves.
Speaker:None of them can look into the mirror and say, I'm proud of the man I am.
Speaker:So by nature, it's all hiding.
Speaker:Hiding from that truth, life becomes one great avoidance.
Speaker:Rather than one Great divine journey of truly.
Speaker:Leaving a legacy of love, of presence, of truth, and of integrity.
Speaker:The awakened man is not perfect.
Speaker:He's not embodying some idea, but he's embodying the truth.
Speaker:And someone who embodies truth can be relied on and trusted on.
Speaker:He might lose presence.
Speaker:He might not follow through with a small promise, but he will always return to his
Speaker:center, and such a man can be trusted.
Speaker:He's not doing anything for or in order to.
Speaker:He's doing it for himself first and foremost.
Speaker:Such a man can be relied upon.
Speaker:And the craziest thing is he becomes the most attractive man, exactly.
Speaker:Because he's not trying.
Speaker:He's no longer looking to be the most attractive, to get
Speaker:the most amount of validation.
Speaker:Him letting go of that and choosing truth, integrity, devotion, and the sacred path
Speaker:is exactly what makes him so magnetic.
Speaker:He has that raw edge and mysticism to him like the bad boy, but in an integrated,
Speaker:in a grounded way, in a conscious way that serves the greater good of all.
Speaker:He's still primal, powerful, a protector, passionate but in service
Speaker:to love, in service to something greater, not in service, to absolute
Speaker:utter distraction and chaos.
Speaker:Most women haven't met such a man, but some women in their healing journey,
Speaker:they're not fully ready for such a man as well, 'cause there might be still
Speaker:a strong father wound at play and the level of consistency and safety of such
Speaker:a man might be confused with boredom.
Speaker:So there's nuance to this, and I generally believe that many women don't experience
Speaker:or don't know this level of attraction, because perhaps they haven't been in
Speaker:deep presence with such a man, because he's got an edge to him and a rawness.
Speaker:The bad boy embodies unconscious, primal masculine energy.
Speaker:The spiritual fuckboy embodies a projected sense of compassion, empathy,
Speaker:and love and higher consciousness while still operating from that
Speaker:unconscious, primal masculine energy.
Speaker:And the awakened man is the one who walks the journey of integration and wholeness.
Speaker:He both does the work of accessing higher level of consciousness, opening
Speaker:his heart, and at the same time reclaims his primal as well, because that
Speaker:primal is part of our power as man.
Speaker:The man who rejects the primal.
Speaker:Is the man who loses his power.
Speaker:That's another illusion on the path.
Speaker:All of these things can be used in greater service.
Speaker:All of who we are as men.
Speaker:There's nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to be ashamed of our
Speaker:drive, our ambition, our desire.
Speaker:But it needs to be rooted in unwavering integrity, and when it is,
Speaker:all of these things become a gift.
Speaker:All of these things make a man attractive and magnetic.
Speaker:Exactly because he doesn't try to be, he's walking the path from truth because
Speaker:that's what he really chooses to do.
Speaker:No matter who's watching.
Speaker:For the women listening, this is why discernment matters.
Speaker:Not all conscious men are truly conscious.
Speaker:Watch for the subtle sign.
Speaker:Watch whether integrity is truly at the forefront or integrity is bypassed in the
Speaker:name of Holiness or divinity or whatever.
Speaker:That's not spirituality.
Speaker:That's the hidden wound of validation.
Speaker:And for the men listening, if you felt a sting today, if you felt called out,
Speaker:fantastic, that means you are aware.
Speaker:That means you can see through it.
Speaker:And now it is time to face that.
Speaker:Forget about all the other stuff, focus on healing the wound of validation with
Speaker:the needing validation from the feminine to feel secure as a man, sourcing
Speaker:yourself worth from the feminine.
Speaker:Focus on integrity and your evolution will skyrocket.
Speaker:You will expand and grow and step into your power as a man as never before.
Speaker:This will impact every area of your life.
Speaker:Your ability to create abundance in your life, your ability to speak
Speaker:your truth, to stand in your power.
Speaker:Everything becomes amplified.
Speaker:Until you face this.
Speaker:It's surface.
Speaker:It's not rooted in true depth.
Speaker:So there's a lot more at play here.
Speaker:But I wanted to give a kind of general overview of these stages without
Speaker:having the time to go into the subtle nuances of absolutely everything here.
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