1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,680 Hello, travelers. My name is Grace 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,560 Simmons, and this is the Random and 3 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:07,440 Wonderful Podcast. Settle in and listen 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,080 to stories of wanderlust and 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,560 transformation as you gain tips to 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,360 inspire your next travel experience. The 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,240 Random and Wonderful is brought to you by 8 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,720 the Amethyst Palaba Hut, LLC. 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,280 Hi, everyone from Podcast Movement in 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,040 DC. I'm your host, Grace Simmons, and 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,480 welcome to the Random and Wonderful. 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,240 My guest today is going to be Heike 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Yates, and we're going to talk about 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,840 travel, pursuing your spark. It's going 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,441 to be amazing. So let's get into it. 16 00:00:41,761 --> 00:00:44,641 Yeah, let's go. This is awesome. So thank 17 00:00:44,641 --> 00:00:46,241 you, first off, so much for joining me 18 00:00:46,241 --> 00:00:48,081 today. I'm excited because this is like 19 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:49,721 our first live, 20 00:00:51,281 --> 00:00:53,041 like official chat, actually. We've been 21 00:00:53,041 --> 00:00:54,561 kind of talking that he's doing the other 22 00:00:54,561 --> 00:00:57,481 we met last year. Yes. And so I'm excited 23 00:00:57,481 --> 00:01:00,241 to get this started. So please tell me 24 00:01:00,241 --> 00:01:03,121 and everyone, how exactly did Pursue 25 00:01:03,121 --> 00:01:05,921 Your Spark start?You know, 26 00:01:05,921 --> 00:01:08,521 Pursue Your Spark started as a 27 00:01:08,521 --> 00:01:10,961 long history of it, going 28 00:01:10,961 --> 00:01:13,681 through iterations and how do I 29 00:01:13,681 --> 00:01:16,641 want to talk to women?And it's like in 30 00:01:16,641 --> 00:01:19,041 my podcast. It's like or trying to figure 31 00:01:19,041 --> 00:01:21,121 out the right angle of do I want to talk 32 00:01:21,121 --> 00:01:23,601 about menopause?Do I want to talk about 33 00:01:23,601 --> 00:01:26,241 other things that are interesting to 34 00:01:26,241 --> 00:01:29,041 women in midlife?And what I come across 35 00:01:29,121 --> 00:01:32,081 is a lot. Women dim their 36 00:01:32,081 --> 00:01:34,801 light when they get older. Yeah. YeahAnd 37 00:01:34,801 --> 00:01:36,401 so when you think about dimming your 38 00:01:36,401 --> 00:01:38,241 light, what's will be the opposite is 39 00:01:38,241 --> 00:01:41,081 igniting your spark. But then you have to 40 00:01:41,081 --> 00:01:43,761 also pursue the spark. In 41 00:01:43,761 --> 00:01:46,001 order to ignite it, if you're not sure 42 00:01:46,201 --> 00:01:47,921 what the spark is for you 43 00:01:48,081 --> 00:01:50,521 specifically, you don't know what you're 44 00:01:50,521 --> 00:01:52,801 going to ignite. So it's like, 45 00:01:52,881 --> 00:01:55,681 OK, let's figure out what it is 46 00:01:55,921 --> 00:01:58,161 that we want from midlife. 47 00:01:58,881 --> 00:02:01,001 Wherever we are in midlife, and I think 48 00:02:01,001 --> 00:02:03,801 we talked about that, it's between 40 and 49 00:02:03,801 --> 00:02:06,562 80. So midlife is not just being 50 50 00:02:07,602 --> 00:02:09,522 and it's somewhere in the transition 51 00:02:09,522 --> 00:02:12,242 from. Perimenopause through menopause and 52 00:02:12,242 --> 00:02:15,122 postmenopausal just to give it a more 53 00:02:15,122 --> 00:02:18,082 confined idea. And 54 00:02:18,082 --> 00:02:20,562 I think that's a really a time every, at 55 00:02:20,562 --> 00:02:23,202 least in my opinion, every 10 years I 56 00:02:23,202 --> 00:02:25,762 feel, and I'm 63, women 57 00:02:25,762 --> 00:02:28,522 go through something else has to 58 00:02:28,522 --> 00:02:31,122 change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 59 00:02:31,122 --> 00:02:33,202 unfortunate. I do like that there's a 60 00:02:33,202 --> 00:02:34,482 breakdown, though, in the difference 61 00:02:34,482 --> 00:02:36,642 between igniting and pursuing, 'cause 62 00:02:36,642 --> 00:02:39,202 like you said, you maybe. understand what 63 00:02:39,202 --> 00:02:41,322 that spark is, but it's so important to 64 00:02:41,322 --> 00:02:44,082 be able to like continue those steps of 65 00:02:44,082 --> 00:02:46,562 pursuing, right?Because if you just see 66 00:02:46,562 --> 00:02:48,442 you have that great moment and you don't 67 00:02:48,442 --> 00:02:51,082 do anything to follow up, it fizzles and 68 00:02:51,082 --> 00:02:53,682 it goes away. Yeah. And then you feel 69 00:02:53,922 --> 00:02:56,802 potentially left behind, sad. Yes. 70 00:02:57,042 --> 00:02:59,682 And you're unhappy. And a lot of times 71 00:02:59,682 --> 00:03:01,282 when we look at these patterns too, 72 00:03:01,602 --> 00:03:04,242 divorce happens because somebody in the 73 00:03:04,242 --> 00:03:06,482 relationship is not happy. Yeah. 74 00:03:07,042 --> 00:03:09,842 And so I I feel it's a good way to really 75 00:03:09,842 --> 00:03:12,642 look at yourself and 76 00:03:12,642 --> 00:03:15,522 see, what do I need?Where am I in this 77 00:03:15,522 --> 00:03:17,922 phase of life?Okay, as someone who then 78 00:03:17,922 --> 00:03:20,442 is coaching people on this path, 79 00:03:20,962 --> 00:03:23,602 how do you navigate self-doubt 80 00:03:23,602 --> 00:03:26,242 or hesitations when it comes to maybe 81 00:03:26,242 --> 00:03:28,963 business or personal?How do you lead? 82 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:32,403 I would first say it's to be honest with 83 00:03:32,443 --> 00:03:34,443 what you really want. Okay. 84 00:03:35,123 --> 00:03:37,163 And that's the biggest hurdle, 'cause a 85 00:03:37,163 --> 00:03:39,843 lot of women don't want to really look at 86 00:03:40,483 --> 00:03:43,363 what the problem is. And self-doubt 87 00:03:43,363 --> 00:03:45,843 creeps in and we just keep thinking about 88 00:03:45,843 --> 00:03:47,523 it. It's three o'clock in the morning, 89 00:03:48,083 --> 00:03:51,043 yeah and we're not quite sure if we 90 00:03:51,043 --> 00:03:53,843 can do things, if we should take action, 91 00:03:53,843 --> 00:03:56,203 if what happens, what is the consequence 92 00:03:56,203 --> 00:03:58,923 of if I do the things that I want to 93 00:03:58,923 --> 00:04:01,843 do. Yeah. And soThe first thing is really 94 00:04:01,843 --> 00:04:04,403 be honest with you, and that can go 95 00:04:04,403 --> 00:04:06,723 different ways. It can come through a 96 00:04:06,723 --> 00:04:08,723 conversation with a friend. It can come 97 00:04:08,723 --> 00:04:11,083 through journaling. It can come 98 00:04:11,083 --> 00:04:13,163 maybe on a big bike ride where you're 99 00:04:13,163 --> 00:04:14,963 riding through the woods and you call. 100 00:04:15,203 --> 00:04:17,643 Clarity. Yeah. Clarity. Yes. Yeah. 101 00:04:18,083 --> 00:04:20,883 Getting clear on what it is that you 102 00:04:21,123 --> 00:04:23,923 want. And instead of focusing on the 103 00:04:23,923 --> 00:04:26,083 negative, which is our self-doubt. So 104 00:04:26,083 --> 00:04:29,043 quick. Yeah. So quickly to focus on. 105 00:04:29,203 --> 00:04:30,963 The things that you maybe need to fix 106 00:04:30,963 --> 00:04:33,643 versus how can I use my strengths to 107 00:04:33,763 --> 00:04:36,643 better who I am, where I'm trying to go. 108 00:04:36,883 --> 00:04:38,643 And it's so beneficial to get that 109 00:04:38,883 --> 00:04:40,563 initial understanding. That's wonderful. 110 00:04:40,723 --> 00:04:43,123 Yeah. So besides 111 00:04:43,123 --> 00:04:46,083 being coaches and podcasters, you and I 112 00:04:46,083 --> 00:04:48,883 both share a love of travel. So 113 00:04:48,963 --> 00:04:51,684 I am curious, do you have a 114 00:04:51,684 --> 00:04:54,284 story or maybe a trip that left like a 115 00:04:54,284 --> 00:04:57,124 really heavy impact on you?Oh, I got a 116 00:04:57,124 --> 00:04:59,604 whole bunch of stories. My 117 00:04:59,604 --> 00:05:02,084 thing is, or has been for many years now, 118 00:05:02,084 --> 00:05:04,084 that whenever I have a round birthday, 119 00:05:04,084 --> 00:05:06,524 umm I don't remember my 30th birthday 120 00:05:06,524 --> 00:05:08,084 because I was in a different relationship 121 00:05:08,484 --> 00:05:11,364 about my 40th, my 50th, my 60th birthday. 122 00:05:11,844 --> 00:05:14,404 I always did something that was 123 00:05:14,484 --> 00:05:16,804 super memorable. So instead of getting 124 00:05:16,804 --> 00:05:18,524 gifts or going out to an expensive 125 00:05:18,524 --> 00:05:21,444 restaurant, it's about taking a trip. 126 00:05:21,844 --> 00:05:24,644 So which one would like to hear about the 127 00:05:24,644 --> 00:05:27,364 story about dancing Argentine tango? 128 00:05:27,924 --> 00:05:30,084 In Buenos Aires. Or would you like to 129 00:05:30,084 --> 00:05:32,644 hear about my 6 for 60 in 130 00:05:32,644 --> 00:05:35,604 Hawaii?Oh, 6 for 60. Six for six. 131 00:05:35,844 --> 00:05:38,404 Yeah. Excellent. All right, here you go. 132 00:05:38,404 --> 00:05:40,404 So my 60th birthday is starting to roll 133 00:05:40,404 --> 00:05:43,364 around and my husband and 134 00:05:43,444 --> 00:05:45,164 we're talking about maybe going to 135 00:05:45,164 --> 00:05:47,284 Hawaii, you know, for a week of 136 00:05:47,284 --> 00:05:50,244 vacation. And then we're talking and he 137 00:05:50,244 --> 00:05:52,124 says, you know, I found this really cute 138 00:05:52,124 --> 00:05:54,884 two-bedroom apartment. It's right on the 139 00:05:54,884 --> 00:05:57,764 water. It's right outside of, what's 140 00:05:57,764 --> 00:06:00,244 the town of the big island, the big land 141 00:06:00,244 --> 00:06:03,164 of Hawaii. And he said, 142 00:06:03,164 --> 00:06:05,524 Devil, here's what we're going to do. My 143 00:06:05,524 --> 00:06:08,404 gift to you are six for 60. And I 144 00:06:08,404 --> 00:06:10,404 was like, What's that supposed to mean? 145 00:06:10,764 --> 00:06:13,005 And he says, Six weeks of 146 00:06:13,005 --> 00:06:15,925 vacation in Hawaii. Oh 147 00:06:15,925 --> 00:06:18,805 my gosh. But the caveat is, 148 00:06:19,445 --> 00:06:22,005 we didn't take the whole six weeks as a 149 00:06:22,005 --> 00:06:24,725 vacation, so what we did is,We had one 150 00:06:24,725 --> 00:06:27,525 week where we worked and then one 151 00:06:27,525 --> 00:06:30,445 week where we took vacation. OK, OK, it 152 00:06:30,485 --> 00:06:33,365 was fantastic. So we got 153 00:06:33,365 --> 00:06:34,765 there. We had this really cute 154 00:06:34,765 --> 00:06:37,365 two-bedroom apartment. And 155 00:06:37,605 --> 00:06:40,005 one room was set up as his office because 156 00:06:40,005 --> 00:06:42,045 my husband had to work too. So he got up 157 00:06:42,045 --> 00:06:44,645 at 4:00 in the morning, the one week we 158 00:06:44,645 --> 00:06:46,965 worked till noon. I put all my clients on 159 00:06:46,965 --> 00:06:49,445 Zoom. So I would sit on the floor in the 160 00:06:49,445 --> 00:06:52,325 living room with my laptop on a chair 161 00:06:52,405 --> 00:06:54,885 and we would do Pilates or whatever this 162 00:06:54,885 --> 00:06:57,565 person wanted to do. And the people are 163 00:06:57,565 --> 00:07:00,285 like, where are you?And I took my laptop 164 00:07:00,285 --> 00:07:02,725 and I was like, oh, look at the lights. 165 00:07:03,605 --> 00:07:05,605 There's the beach and like, Oh my 166 00:07:05,685 --> 00:07:08,405 God. And so it was great 167 00:07:08,405 --> 00:07:11,205 because we both continued to earn money. 168 00:07:11,205 --> 00:07:14,085 So it was not no income for either of 169 00:07:14,125 --> 00:07:16,485 us. Yeah. And six weeks, it's a long 170 00:07:16,485 --> 00:07:19,165 time. Then we took the second week where 171 00:07:19,165 --> 00:07:21,285 we, well, let me finish the first story. 172 00:07:21,445 --> 00:07:24,245 So it's when we got up at 4:00, we both 173 00:07:24,245 --> 00:07:26,565 worked till noon. And then at noon we're 174 00:07:26,565 --> 00:07:29,165 like, what do you want to do?Do you want 175 00:07:29,165 --> 00:07:32,005 to go for a run on?The highway, you know, 176 00:07:32,005 --> 00:07:33,485 the street right in front of us where 177 00:07:33,485 --> 00:07:35,766 they do the Ironman or do we want to go 178 00:07:35,766 --> 00:07:38,646 swim or do we want to go for a bike 179 00:07:38,646 --> 00:07:40,246 ride?Because we brought our bikes. We're 180 00:07:40,246 --> 00:07:42,166 triathletes, so we brought our bikes. My 181 00:07:42,486 --> 00:07:44,886 goodness. And so we biked the 182 00:07:44,886 --> 00:07:46,726 highway, you know, we're like, OK, So 183 00:07:46,726 --> 00:07:48,286 what we're going to do?And then we we did 184 00:07:48,286 --> 00:07:50,886 whatever the work I was, came home, had 185 00:07:50,886 --> 00:07:52,806 lunch or did the other way around. Then 186 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:55,286 it was nap time and then we did whatever 187 00:07:55,286 --> 00:07:58,086 we wanted to do. Go hiking. We learned 188 00:07:58,086 --> 00:08:00,846 about the local fish market. We knew 189 00:08:00,846 --> 00:08:03,286 where the bread place in the hills was, 190 00:08:03,286 --> 00:08:06,126 that they came a couple times a week 191 00:08:06,126 --> 00:08:08,406 and brought their fresh baked goods. 192 00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:10,926 So you always became a local. So the fish 193 00:08:11,046 --> 00:08:14,006 guy, the fish guy said, here, give 194 00:08:14,006 --> 00:08:15,926 me your number. I'll text you when we're 195 00:08:15,926 --> 00:08:17,766 at the shopping center so you know when 196 00:08:17,766 --> 00:08:20,006 the first fish is here. I'm like, yes, 197 00:08:20,006 --> 00:08:22,966 that's amazing. And then the 198 00:08:22,966 --> 00:08:25,726 second week. When we were off, we would 199 00:08:25,726 --> 00:08:28,166 take our bikes and we go, we sleep in, 200 00:08:28,406 --> 00:08:30,726 have breakfast, even though I 201 00:08:30,726 --> 00:08:32,126 intermittent fast, but that was like, I 202 00:08:32,726 --> 00:08:34,166 don't care about that. We need some 203 00:08:34,206 --> 00:08:36,566 energy next time, because intermittent 204 00:08:36,566 --> 00:08:38,686 fasting is not restrictive. So we would 205 00:08:38,686 --> 00:08:40,726 drive to the other side of the island or 206 00:08:40,726 --> 00:08:43,286 explore other parts of Hawaii. 207 00:08:44,006 --> 00:08:46,486 It was the best. And on my actual 208 00:08:46,486 --> 00:08:49,326 birthday, we had bao bao, two balloons, 209 00:08:49,326 --> 00:08:52,166 one six, one oh, and we walked down 210 00:08:52,166 --> 00:08:54,326 with the balloons in hand. Down the 211 00:08:54,486 --> 00:08:56,806 street to a little beach where we, my 212 00:08:56,806 --> 00:08:58,647 husband and I did a little photo shoot, 213 00:08:58,647 --> 00:09:00,967 you know, like, ohh yeah, cute. You 214 00:09:00,967 --> 00:09:03,287 wouldn't believe the people. They're 215 00:09:03,367 --> 00:09:05,767 yelling out of their car, happy birthday, 216 00:09:06,247 --> 00:09:08,807 yay, go party girl. This is 217 00:09:08,807 --> 00:09:11,247 great. And then we got to the beach and 218 00:09:11,287 --> 00:09:12,727 we're starting to do our thing. And this 219 00:09:12,727 --> 00:09:15,687 woman comes up to me and she says, 60. 220 00:09:16,007 --> 00:09:18,367 Your life is just starting. You're gonna 221 00:09:18,367 --> 00:09:21,047 have work on after 60. Yeah. So 222 00:09:21,047 --> 00:09:23,847 that's my 6 for 60 story. I 223 00:09:24,007 --> 00:09:26,927 that's amazing. Six weeks, first 224 00:09:26,927 --> 00:09:28,007 off. But I like that there's an 225 00:09:28,007 --> 00:09:29,887 alternative. Like you have that nice 226 00:09:29,887 --> 00:09:32,567 stagger, even though it sounds like when 227 00:09:32,567 --> 00:09:34,327 you were working, that was still super 228 00:09:34,327 --> 00:09:36,607 fun. Like you weren't ignoring the fact 229 00:09:36,607 --> 00:09:38,327 that you had, you were in this paradise, 230 00:09:38,327 --> 00:09:40,327 of course. You got up in the morning and 231 00:09:40,567 --> 00:09:42,967 then my husband would always say. Oh, I'm 232 00:09:42,967 --> 00:09:44,647 going to have breakfast on the lanai, 233 00:09:45,207 --> 00:09:47,607 which is the balcony. But the 234 00:09:47,607 --> 00:09:50,527 peacefulness and the ocean and 235 00:09:50,527 --> 00:09:52,967 the environment is so tropical and people 236 00:09:52,967 --> 00:09:55,527 are super duper friendly and 237 00:09:56,087 --> 00:09:58,807 you know, and we did the things that we 238 00:09:58,807 --> 00:10:01,527 physically loved doing and 239 00:10:01,767 --> 00:10:04,567 we had such a good diversity on it as 240 00:10:04,567 --> 00:10:06,527 well. So it was not just hanging out in 241 00:10:06,527 --> 00:10:08,247 the beach. I mean, we went snorkeling 242 00:10:08,247 --> 00:10:10,807 with the dolphins. It was just 243 00:10:10,967 --> 00:10:13,847 fantastic. Yeah. I highly recommend it. 244 00:10:13,847 --> 00:10:16,447 6 for 60. I love it. 3 for 245 00:10:16,567 --> 00:10:19,487 30. I don't care. Yeah. No, whatever 246 00:10:19,487 --> 00:10:21,528 it is, it should be multiple weeks of the 247 00:10:21,528 --> 00:10:23,768 I I think would be ideal. I know. Wow. 248 00:10:24,728 --> 00:10:26,328 I was going to ask actually, since you 249 00:10:26,328 --> 00:10:27,808 guys are triathletes, how are you 250 00:10:27,808 --> 00:10:30,328 incorporating?Like, are you purposeful 251 00:10:30,328 --> 00:10:32,248 about incorporating Wellness into your 252 00:10:32,248 --> 00:10:35,208 vacations or is it just a habit?Like 253 00:10:35,368 --> 00:10:38,088 this is just what you're doing?We are 254 00:10:38,088 --> 00:10:40,728 trying to incorporate. We are 255 00:10:40,728 --> 00:10:43,648 not going to the gyms. So we 256 00:10:43,648 --> 00:10:45,808 are like, no, we're on vacation. We want 257 00:10:45,848 --> 00:10:48,088 to be outside because oftentimes we're 258 00:10:48,128 --> 00:10:50,088 either, well, oftentimes we're either on 259 00:10:50,088 --> 00:10:52,768 the beach or we are in the mountains 260 00:10:52,768 --> 00:10:54,568 somewhere. So if there's some like 261 00:10:54,888 --> 00:10:57,128 physical activity included, there's 262 00:10:57,128 --> 00:10:58,968 always hiking involved. There's 263 00:10:59,928 --> 00:11:02,488 it's built in. To what the vacation is. 264 00:11:02,968 --> 00:11:04,888 Does it look different than when normally? 265 00:11:04,968 --> 00:11:06,968 Yeah. I usually don't plop down and do 266 00:11:06,968 --> 00:11:09,288 Pilates math work. I'm like, uh, I'm just 267 00:11:09,288 --> 00:11:11,048 on vacation now. And that's what I 268 00:11:11,048 --> 00:11:13,368 recommend to everybody. It's like, don't 269 00:11:13,368 --> 00:11:15,088 worry about it. Just do something. You 270 00:11:15,088 --> 00:11:16,888 know, if you're in a in a city and you're 271 00:11:16,888 --> 00:11:18,968 visiting on a city trip, right. You'll 272 00:11:18,968 --> 00:11:21,528 walk a lot. Yeah. That's exercise too. 273 00:11:21,528 --> 00:11:24,248 Yeah. And so it's built 274 00:11:24,248 --> 00:11:26,128 into what we do. And that's when we went 275 00:11:26,128 --> 00:11:29,048 to Hawaii, we're like, this is. 276 00:11:29,368 --> 00:11:31,768 The island where they had the Ironman. 277 00:11:32,008 --> 00:11:34,328 OK. And we just and he my husband took 278 00:11:34,328 --> 00:11:36,088 the bikes apart, put them in a container, 279 00:11:36,408 --> 00:11:38,488 put it back together. OK. Because I was 280 00:11:38,488 --> 00:11:40,248 going to ask you. I was going to ask you 281 00:11:40,248 --> 00:11:43,128 about those bikes later. Oh wow. So well, 282 00:11:43,128 --> 00:11:44,529 you can transport them. You just need 283 00:11:44,529 --> 00:11:46,449 like a big suit. Yes. Where it fits in 284 00:11:46,449 --> 00:11:48,609 and you take it apart and then you put it 285 00:11:48,609 --> 00:11:50,289 back together. And he knows, thank God he 286 00:11:50,289 --> 00:11:52,329 knows how to do that. I couldn't do that, 287 00:11:52,889 --> 00:11:55,609 but. So yeah, we're we're trying 288 00:11:55,969 --> 00:11:57,689 out different things when we're on 289 00:11:57,689 --> 00:12:00,129 vacation. And so the biking was great 290 00:12:00,129 --> 00:12:02,529 because we could say we biked for all the 291 00:12:02,649 --> 00:12:05,369 Ironman people were biking. Yeah. I mean, 292 00:12:05,369 --> 00:12:07,609 we didn't do the whole route, but it was 293 00:12:07,609 --> 00:12:10,409 just fun to be out there amongst the lava 294 00:12:10,409 --> 00:12:12,729 fields and biking up the road and 295 00:12:13,249 --> 00:12:14,849 and just enjoying the life with the 296 00:12:14,849 --> 00:12:16,809 locals too. So you become less of a 297 00:12:16,809 --> 00:12:19,769 tourist. Yes. YesAnd like I said, you 298 00:12:19,769 --> 00:12:21,649 know, the guy texts about the fish. We 299 00:12:21,649 --> 00:12:23,689 knew on Wednesdays the fresh bread was up 300 00:12:23,689 --> 00:12:25,689 in the in the hills or up in the hills. 301 00:12:26,409 --> 00:12:28,529 That's cool. You've gone from a tourist 302 00:12:28,529 --> 00:12:30,249 to an actual traveler, which is really 303 00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:32,809 neat. When you are. 304 00:12:33,449 --> 00:12:34,649 Well, now I've forgotten my question. 305 00:12:34,649 --> 00:12:35,889 Actually, there's something you just 306 00:12:35,929 --> 00:12:37,969 said. I forgot. All right. 307 00:12:38,449 --> 00:12:40,889 What do you hope to get out of 308 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:43,689 your trips?I love 309 00:12:43,729 --> 00:12:46,249 adventures. OK. That's was also 310 00:12:46,249 --> 00:12:48,889 initially. What brought me to the States? 311 00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:51,449 I'm originally from Germany. And 312 00:12:51,649 --> 00:12:54,009 what?I got bored living in Europe. Yeah, 313 00:12:54,009 --> 00:12:56,569 I know people. You can laugh all you 314 00:12:56,569 --> 00:12:59,369 want. What?But I was always saying, 315 00:12:59,529 --> 00:13:01,769 oh, I want to do Europe when I'm old, 316 00:13:02,409 --> 00:13:03,929 assuming that I would live in Germany, 317 00:13:03,929 --> 00:13:06,489 but I don't. So I still have a lot to see 318 00:13:06,489 --> 00:13:08,970 in Europe, but that's fine. But I wanted 319 00:13:08,970 --> 00:13:10,610 adventure. I wanted something different. 320 00:13:10,730 --> 00:13:12,170 OK. You know, when you think of Europe. 321 00:13:12,890 --> 00:13:15,450 For an European, OK, you speak different 322 00:13:15,450 --> 00:13:18,090 languages in in within 8 hours 323 00:13:18,370 --> 00:13:20,650 and you eat different foods within a in 324 00:13:20,650 --> 00:13:23,050 the same 8 hours of traveling by car. 325 00:13:23,290 --> 00:13:25,370 Here in 8 hours, you're in Virginia from 326 00:13:25,410 --> 00:13:26,650 DC. Still in the same place. 327 00:13:28,330 --> 00:13:30,130 Yeah, you know, nothing ever changes as 328 00:13:30,130 --> 00:13:32,650 far as it's the same. But travel, I 329 00:13:32,650 --> 00:13:35,450 find it, I find it interesting to learn 330 00:13:35,450 --> 00:13:38,410 about other people, how they do things. 331 00:13:38,850 --> 00:13:41,330 What they eat, what they drink, 332 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:44,010 how they do life. That's really 333 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:47,050 why I love traveling so much is 334 00:13:47,090 --> 00:13:49,690 and just experiencing. And even if you 335 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:52,090 say I go maybe up to Maine, my husband 336 00:13:52,090 --> 00:13:54,250 hasn't been up in Maine. OK. And I said, 337 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:56,930 you will feel it's a little different. 338 00:13:56,930 --> 00:13:58,330 They eat different foods. They speak a 339 00:13:58,330 --> 00:14:00,610 little bit different English. Yeah. And 340 00:14:00,610 --> 00:14:02,730 it's it's a little, it's the ruggedy 341 00:14:02,730 --> 00:14:05,450 water hills and all that. And so 342 00:14:05,450 --> 00:14:08,130 that's new and it's different. OK, OK 343 00:14:08,650 --> 00:14:09,930 I do remember that question, though. I 344 00:14:09,930 --> 00:14:11,730 was going to ask, when did you notice 345 00:14:11,730 --> 00:14:13,210 that you were able to find a balance 346 00:14:13,210 --> 00:14:16,090 between actually fully immersing 347 00:14:16,090 --> 00:14:18,810 yourself into a vacation and then 348 00:14:18,810 --> 00:14:21,450 separating the work?Has that always 349 00:14:21,490 --> 00:14:24,250 been?OK, like a switch. It's like, OK, 350 00:14:24,570 --> 00:14:25,290 you do this, 351 00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:28,090 compartmentalize it, right? 352 00:14:29,210 --> 00:14:30,811 You do this. OK, we're done with this. 353 00:14:30,811 --> 00:14:33,531 Now we're going to do that. It's no 354 00:14:33,531 --> 00:14:35,931 turning on a computer. Not looking at 355 00:14:35,931 --> 00:14:38,651 emails. And you know, I have my out of 356 00:14:38,651 --> 00:14:41,131 the office on my phone, on my e-mail 357 00:14:41,131 --> 00:14:43,651 thing. I was like, I'm not looking at 358 00:14:43,651 --> 00:14:45,211 this. And I told my husband too, no 359 00:14:45,211 --> 00:14:47,851 Slack. OK. You are not available. This is 360 00:14:47,851 --> 00:14:50,251 vacation. Yeah. You're not available. 361 00:14:51,091 --> 00:14:53,771 Unless it's an emergency. But other than 362 00:14:53,931 --> 00:14:55,691 that, they have to wait. Is this like a 363 00:14:55,691 --> 00:14:57,171 process that you had to 364 00:14:57,971 --> 00:15:00,811 enforce or was it something like you've 365 00:15:00,811 --> 00:15:03,371 always had those good boundaries?Oh, God, 366 00:15:03,371 --> 00:15:05,931 no. All right. 367 00:15:06,331 --> 00:15:09,051 Oh my God, no. I love, love, love my 368 00:15:09,051 --> 00:15:11,851 work as a health fitness coach and my 369 00:15:11,851 --> 00:15:14,571 podcast and all this. I can work 370 00:15:14,771 --> 00:15:17,371 all week long. I love what I 371 00:15:17,371 --> 00:15:19,451 do. And I had to really, 372 00:15:20,251 --> 00:15:21,851 my husband actually pointed that out. He 373 00:15:21,851 --> 00:15:24,571 says, you know, it's 7:00 in the evening, 374 00:15:24,571 --> 00:15:26,731 you're still working. We started at 7, 375 00:15:26,731 --> 00:15:29,051 you're still at it. Like, oh, let me just 376 00:15:29,051 --> 00:15:31,371 finish this canva. Let me just get this 377 00:15:31,371 --> 00:15:34,331 done. And he says. Well, it's 7 o'clock. 378 00:15:34,331 --> 00:15:36,251 We want to eat. We didn't prepare 379 00:15:36,251 --> 00:15:38,691 anything. The same with the weekends. And 380 00:15:38,691 --> 00:15:40,251 I would say Sunday, I was like, oh, I 381 00:15:40,251 --> 00:15:42,611 just quickly, three hours later. Right. 382 00:15:43,211 --> 00:15:45,131 Three hours later, I'm still at it. But 383 00:15:45,131 --> 00:15:47,291 he pointed out and he said, you know, 384 00:15:47,611 --> 00:15:49,691 your work's taken over our lives. 385 00:15:50,811 --> 00:15:53,372 I know you love what you do. And so that 386 00:15:53,372 --> 00:15:55,692 was a wake-up call for me to say, hey, I 387 00:15:55,692 --> 00:15:58,412 can't neglect my relationship. I can't 388 00:15:58,412 --> 00:16:01,212 neglect my off time. So 389 00:16:01,292 --> 00:16:04,172 the dealio is now that we stop 390 00:16:04,252 --> 00:16:07,212 the latest at six and work on 391 00:16:07,212 --> 00:16:09,772 the weekends only if it's something that 392 00:16:09,932 --> 00:16:12,492 has to be done on Monday. OK. I mean, 393 00:16:12,492 --> 00:16:14,492 other than that, we're not working. 394 00:16:15,372 --> 00:16:18,012 Wow. I'm glad he called me out on it. 395 00:16:18,092 --> 00:16:20,292 Yeah. YeahI would have not. I didn't 396 00:16:20,332 --> 00:16:22,092 think of it as work. Right. Because 397 00:16:22,092 --> 00:16:23,772 you're enjoying what you do. You're in 398 00:16:23,852 --> 00:16:26,132 it. I need to end this podcast episode 399 00:16:26,212 --> 00:16:28,932 really quickly. 4 hours later. Oh, 400 00:16:28,932 --> 00:16:31,292 OK, cool. OK. Because I'm always, I know 401 00:16:31,292 --> 00:16:34,012 sometimes, like you're as a coach, right? 402 00:16:34,332 --> 00:16:36,092 You're able to give some people advice, 403 00:16:36,652 --> 00:16:39,052 but you yourself can kind of be stuck 404 00:16:39,052 --> 00:16:41,372 into the process of it. And so I'm always 405 00:16:41,372 --> 00:16:42,812 curious, like, at what point do you 406 00:16:42,812 --> 00:16:45,772 realize?I should take my own advice 407 00:16:45,772 --> 00:16:47,212 and sort of like you said, 408 00:16:47,292 --> 00:16:49,212 compartmentalize or set those boundaries. 409 00:16:49,452 --> 00:16:51,532 So, OK, that's really key, definitely. 410 00:16:51,532 --> 00:16:53,292 And I'm glad that he pointed it out 411 00:16:53,292 --> 00:16:56,012 because I'm sure I would have burned 412 00:16:56,012 --> 00:16:58,172 out big time at some point 413 00:16:59,252 --> 00:17:01,292 and our relationship would have suffered, 414 00:17:01,292 --> 00:17:04,012 my health would have suffered, but I 415 00:17:04,012 --> 00:17:06,252 didn't see it. So I'm glad somebody said, 416 00:17:06,252 --> 00:17:08,652 hey, did you notice? 417 00:17:09,772 --> 00:17:12,652 And I'm like. No, I'm I'm not doing 418 00:17:12,652 --> 00:17:14,692 this. But then I had to be honest with 419 00:17:14,732 --> 00:17:17,653 myself, and I did it. Yeah. So 420 00:17:17,653 --> 00:17:19,453 it's like, we call out our clients, you 421 00:17:19,453 --> 00:17:22,333 know?It's It's not calling out, it's sort 422 00:17:22,373 --> 00:17:25,133 of lovely saying, hey, did you 423 00:17:25,133 --> 00:17:27,213 notice?It's accountability. 424 00:17:28,413 --> 00:17:30,693 Yeah. YeahYeah, are you loving yourself? 425 00:17:30,693 --> 00:17:32,733 Are you doing, you know, paying attention 426 00:17:32,733 --> 00:17:34,973 to your health?Yeah, exactly. 427 00:17:35,773 --> 00:17:38,093 How, like what is one of your favorite 428 00:17:38,093 --> 00:17:40,493 wellness practices?So if you were 429 00:17:40,493 --> 00:17:43,453 to, yeah, a good way 430 00:17:43,533 --> 00:17:45,813 for you to like decompress. Okay. What's 431 00:17:45,813 --> 00:17:48,173 your go-to?It used to be running. Okay. 432 00:17:48,573 --> 00:17:51,213 So about three years ago, I 433 00:17:51,213 --> 00:17:53,813 started having severe knee pain. I mean, 434 00:17:53,853 --> 00:17:55,893 I've been a runner for since, I'd say 435 00:17:55,893 --> 00:17:58,853 2008, so for a while. And 436 00:17:58,853 --> 00:18:00,093 I got into running and every now and then 437 00:18:00,093 --> 00:18:01,773 my knee would hurt and I'm thinking, oh, 438 00:18:01,773 --> 00:18:03,733 you know, I just ran too much and I did a 439 00:18:03,733 --> 00:18:05,453 lot of running. You know, I did 440 00:18:05,453 --> 00:18:08,293 marathons, I did ultra marathons and 441 00:18:08,293 --> 00:18:10,213 things like that. But my knee is kind of 442 00:18:10,213 --> 00:18:12,093 getting cranky. But at some point my knee 443 00:18:12,093 --> 00:18:15,013 was really, really bad. OK, 444 00:18:15,373 --> 00:18:17,693 so I went to the doctor after all my own, 445 00:18:17,693 --> 00:18:19,533 like trying to fix my knee things. 446 00:18:20,893 --> 00:18:22,853 I said, OK, let's see what it's at. And 447 00:18:22,853 --> 00:18:24,733 so I have severe arthritis in one of my 448 00:18:24,733 --> 00:18:27,293 knees. OK. And at the point the doctor 449 00:18:27,293 --> 00:18:30,133 said, oh, you should make an appointment 450 00:18:30,133 --> 00:18:31,933 now because we have a three month wait 451 00:18:31,933 --> 00:18:34,893 for a knee replacement. I was in so 452 00:18:34,893 --> 00:18:37,773 much pain. I was like, Please sign 453 00:18:37,773 --> 00:18:39,614 me off. My oh my gosh is 30 months. 454 00:18:41,054 --> 00:18:43,334 And I said, I have three months. I was 455 00:18:43,334 --> 00:18:45,374 like, No, it's weight. So I went to a 456 00:18:45,374 --> 00:18:47,534 friend of mine who is chiropractor, but 457 00:18:47,534 --> 00:18:49,974 he does other techniques too. And so he 458 00:18:49,974 --> 00:18:52,494 looked at my gait. He looked at what 459 00:18:52,654 --> 00:18:55,214 exercises we can do. I stopped 460 00:18:55,214 --> 00:18:57,694 running and he says, Just eliminate 461 00:18:57,774 --> 00:19:00,494 impacts. Right. Right And 462 00:19:00,814 --> 00:19:03,654 it's now over two years. over two 463 00:19:03,654 --> 00:19:06,574 years, that I have not 464 00:19:06,574 --> 00:19:08,654 gotten a knee replacement. I have managed 465 00:19:08,654 --> 00:19:11,054 my knee pain with biking and swimming and 466 00:19:11,054 --> 00:19:13,334 strength training and Pilates and 467 00:19:13,334 --> 00:19:16,254 stretching. And so far, knock on wood, 468 00:19:16,414 --> 00:19:19,174 I am not getting a knee replacement, 469 00:19:19,174 --> 00:19:22,134 but I had to replace my running, 470 00:19:22,134 --> 00:19:24,734 which was my go-to for de-stressing. 471 00:19:25,134 --> 00:19:27,534 I missed it so much. 472 00:19:28,174 --> 00:19:30,494 I said, what am I going to do?I 473 00:19:30,654 --> 00:19:33,374 identify being a runner. I know people 474 00:19:33,614 --> 00:19:35,454 identify with something you're part of. 475 00:19:35,454 --> 00:19:37,374 Like I was part of the Montgomery County 476 00:19:37,374 --> 00:19:39,774 Roadrunner crew and I was one of their 477 00:19:39,774 --> 00:19:41,534 coaches. They were, they were my gang, 478 00:19:41,534 --> 00:19:43,734 they were my people. And suddenly I had 479 00:19:43,774 --> 00:19:46,254 nobody. It's just me and my lousy knee. 480 00:19:46,334 --> 00:19:48,814 No, no, like me, you let me down. 481 00:19:50,534 --> 00:19:53,014 And so, but I know I've heard other 482 00:19:53,014 --> 00:19:54,814 people feel that way too. You get let 483 00:19:54,814 --> 00:19:56,774 down by your body. And you don't know 484 00:19:56,774 --> 00:19:59,374 what to do. Umm So I said, all right, I 485 00:19:59,374 --> 00:20:02,015 love biking, so I bike more. And I 486 00:20:02,015 --> 00:20:04,815 started embracing swimming, although I'm 487 00:20:04,815 --> 00:20:07,775 a really not good strong swimmer. I 488 00:20:07,775 --> 00:20:09,295 mean, it takes me forever to get from one 489 00:20:09,295 --> 00:20:11,535 side to the other, but it doesn't matter. 490 00:20:11,855 --> 00:20:14,815 It helped offset the stress on the knee. 491 00:20:15,575 --> 00:20:18,255 And so it didn't become my go-to to 492 00:20:18,255 --> 00:20:20,895 de-stress. My go-to is now hiking. 493 00:20:21,815 --> 00:20:24,455 And I'm hiking. Really fast. My 494 00:20:24,455 --> 00:20:26,175 husband's like, you could almost run 495 00:20:26,175 --> 00:20:29,055 this. But it's it's like, OK, let's go. I 496 00:20:29,055 --> 00:20:31,495 want to work out. Yeah, I really need 497 00:20:31,495 --> 00:20:33,455 this. And then has helped me 498 00:20:33,455 --> 00:20:35,855 transition from 499 00:20:36,255 --> 00:20:38,015 missing my running and helping me 500 00:20:38,015 --> 00:20:40,735 decompress. Because as a runner, I always 501 00:20:40,735 --> 00:20:42,655 say, you put your shoes on, you go out 502 00:20:42,655 --> 00:20:45,015 the door. After three miles, all the 503 00:20:45,015 --> 00:20:46,335 world's problems are solved. 504 00:20:48,895 --> 00:20:51,815 Yeah. For the non-runners, 505 00:20:52,015 --> 00:20:54,975 I get it, but wow. So whatever it is you 506 00:20:54,975 --> 00:20:57,095 do, I mean, biking, I always feel, is is 507 00:20:57,095 --> 00:20:58,415 a little more dangerous when you're right 508 00:20:58,415 --> 00:21:00,575 on the roads. You have to really pay 509 00:21:00,575 --> 00:21:02,375 attention. Yeah, and you can't-- And you 510 00:21:02,415 --> 00:21:05,055 can sometimes space out and go, yeah, I'm 511 00:21:05,055 --> 00:21:06,655 just going to whatever I'm thinking 512 00:21:06,655 --> 00:21:08,775 about. But yeah, so that's-- 513 00:21:10,095 --> 00:21:12,495 Wow. When you're hiking, are you, is it 514 00:21:12,495 --> 00:21:15,175 just local?So in Maryland, or are you 515 00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:18,495 like going to different locations?Well, 516 00:21:18,495 --> 00:21:20,415 we have two of our favorite locations. 517 00:21:20,415 --> 00:21:23,295 One is the Rock Creek Park. I love 518 00:21:23,295 --> 00:21:26,136 it. We're literally 10 minutes drive 519 00:21:26,136 --> 00:21:28,176 from there. The park is beautiful. It has 520 00:21:28,176 --> 00:21:29,936 all kinds of different trails. And 521 00:21:29,936 --> 00:21:32,896 sometimes we go out to Gaithersburg, who 522 00:21:33,056 --> 00:21:35,696 also has, it's a hidden 523 00:21:35,696 --> 00:21:37,976 agenda with that one. It's part of the 524 00:21:37,976 --> 00:21:40,816 extension of the, I can't think of the 525 00:21:40,816 --> 00:21:42,816 system, but it's part of the Appalachian 526 00:21:42,816 --> 00:21:45,536 Trail. Partially, but it's it's 527 00:21:45,536 --> 00:21:46,976 near Gaithersburg where the Quince 528 00:21:46,976 --> 00:21:48,456 Orchard High School is for all the people 529 00:21:48,576 --> 00:21:51,296 that are local. And there's a trail 530 00:21:51,296 --> 00:21:54,256 that goes in either direction, like all 531 00:21:54,256 --> 00:21:55,976 over the place. And I can't think of the 532 00:21:55,976 --> 00:21:58,816 name, right?Muddy Branch Trail. 533 00:21:59,336 --> 00:22:00,896 And there's a whole trail system out 534 00:22:00,896 --> 00:22:03,776 there for anybody. Wow, okay. But 535 00:22:04,336 --> 00:22:06,536 we're combining this and I don't get paid 536 00:22:06,536 --> 00:22:08,816 for that. There is an Italian 537 00:22:08,896 --> 00:22:11,696 deli. Near Quince Orchard High School on 538 00:22:11,696 --> 00:22:14,456 in Dart on Dartstown Rd. Gemelli, 539 00:22:15,056 --> 00:22:17,456 they have the best Italian 540 00:22:17,456 --> 00:22:19,376 Subs. The best. I love that 541 00:22:21,616 --> 00:22:23,456 thing in a Nagento. That's a wonderful 542 00:22:23,456 --> 00:22:26,016 recommendation for food. Yes. So 543 00:22:26,016 --> 00:22:28,896 Google Gemelli's and the trail is not far 544 00:22:28,896 --> 00:22:31,536 from there. You can work off the pasta. 545 00:22:32,016 --> 00:22:33,736 I like that. And they have really good 546 00:22:33,736 --> 00:22:36,216 Italian Subs and real Italian food 547 00:22:36,696 --> 00:22:39,016 and wine and what pizza. They have really 548 00:22:39,016 --> 00:22:41,696 good pizza. But I was like, my husband 549 00:22:41,696 --> 00:22:43,176 was just mentioning it the other day and 550 00:22:43,176 --> 00:22:45,576 he said he didn't say we haven't been to 551 00:22:45,576 --> 00:22:47,297 the trail in a while. He just said we 552 00:22:47,297 --> 00:22:49,377 haven't been to Jigmel this in a while 553 00:22:50,817 --> 00:22:53,497 and we can go to the trail at some point. 554 00:22:53,737 --> 00:22:56,697 Sure, there are so many unique places. I 555 00:22:56,697 --> 00:22:58,937 think I've always gotten excited about 556 00:22:58,937 --> 00:23:01,337 traveling outside of Maryland and just 557 00:23:01,337 --> 00:23:02,497 checking all these other places. But 558 00:23:02,937 --> 00:23:05,137 there's so many little hidden spaces in 559 00:23:05,137 --> 00:23:08,017 Maryland and. I am enjoying 560 00:23:08,017 --> 00:23:10,057 discovering them. Like, hey, we don't 561 00:23:10,057 --> 00:23:12,417 necessarily have to leave, right?I can 562 00:23:12,417 --> 00:23:14,097 spend a weekend and just check out these 563 00:23:14,097 --> 00:23:16,417 little locations. Even if I'm not hiking, 564 00:23:16,737 --> 00:23:18,737 they have wonderful trails that you can 565 00:23:18,737 --> 00:23:21,017 just walk along and just spend some quiet 566 00:23:21,017 --> 00:23:23,297 time in nature, which is so healing for 567 00:23:23,297 --> 00:23:25,977 the soul. And we have so many around we 568 00:23:26,017 --> 00:23:28,337 just don't know about. Yeah. And there's 569 00:23:28,337 --> 00:23:30,897 on the, I think it's called the REI app. 570 00:23:31,377 --> 00:23:34,177 Oh, OK. It's a free app where you can 571 00:23:34,177 --> 00:23:35,937 download it and you can get all the trail 572 00:23:35,937 --> 00:23:38,817 systems in Maryland. I think even other 573 00:23:38,817 --> 00:23:41,097 places, but I'm not quite sure where you 574 00:23:41,097 --> 00:23:42,337 can just say, you know, this is a 575 00:23:42,337 --> 00:23:44,937 beginner trail, this is a more advanced 576 00:23:44,937 --> 00:23:47,857 trail or this. I just want to do 3 miles 577 00:23:48,177 --> 00:23:50,057 walking. I like that. And so it's 578 00:23:50,097 --> 00:23:52,217 difficulties, which is what I like 579 00:23:52,217 --> 00:23:54,657 because not everybody wants to go hardcore 580 00:23:55,137 --> 00:23:56,857 And I was like, yeah, but you want to do 581 00:23:56,857 --> 00:23:58,457 something good for your art. Do you want 582 00:23:58,457 --> 00:24:00,177 to?You know, I always say, you know, when 583 00:24:00,177 --> 00:24:01,617 you walk, you get a little bit of a butt 584 00:24:01,617 --> 00:24:03,417 lift because you're using your your butt 585 00:24:03,417 --> 00:24:05,777 ski a little bit more and your legs are 586 00:24:05,777 --> 00:24:07,457 stronger. Get those calves looking right. 587 00:24:07,937 --> 00:24:09,938 Heck yeah. That'll look good. Exactly. 588 00:24:11,698 --> 00:24:13,938 So as we wrap up, we are here at the 589 00:24:13,938 --> 00:24:16,818 Podcast Movement. Have you heard anything 590 00:24:16,818 --> 00:24:19,298 that has maybe helped or that you're 591 00:24:19,298 --> 00:24:21,618 going to take away with you for your 592 00:24:21,618 --> 00:24:23,578 business?Or maybe something that you 593 00:24:23,578 --> 00:24:25,538 heard and you've decided to not do 594 00:24:25,538 --> 00:24:28,458 anymore?That's a good one. Oh, 595 00:24:28,578 --> 00:24:31,298 there's there's some good Nuggets. 596 00:24:31,778 --> 00:24:33,778 I think what I 597 00:24:34,578 --> 00:24:36,338 learned more than anything is that 598 00:24:36,338 --> 00:24:38,658 there's a big industry that supports us 599 00:24:38,658 --> 00:24:41,498 podcasters. We don't have to grab 600 00:24:41,498 --> 00:24:43,538 them all. We don't have to buy all of 601 00:24:43,538 --> 00:24:45,458 them, but they're there for us at our 602 00:24:45,458 --> 00:24:47,218 disposal. So we're not alone when it 603 00:24:47,218 --> 00:24:49,898 comes to difficult technologies. and 604 00:24:49,898 --> 00:24:52,698 programs or even time constraints. You 605 00:24:52,738 --> 00:24:55,338 know, it's like you have an a podcast 606 00:24:55,338 --> 00:24:56,618 episode and you don't have time to 607 00:24:56,618 --> 00:24:59,378 transcribe things. Right. You know, 608 00:24:59,618 --> 00:25:01,578 there's help for us there and you just 609 00:25:01,578 --> 00:25:02,818 have to find connect with the right 610 00:25:02,818 --> 00:25:05,138 people that generate 611 00:25:05,538 --> 00:25:08,058 for you what you want the way you want 612 00:25:08,058 --> 00:25:09,818 it. And the other thing that just came 613 00:25:09,818 --> 00:25:12,498 out of the keynote speech where 614 00:25:12,658 --> 00:25:15,058 the speakers were talking about, Is 615 00:25:15,058 --> 00:25:17,618 podcasting dead?And they said, 616 00:25:18,178 --> 00:25:19,978 Look at all these news. All these 617 00:25:19,978 --> 00:25:22,338 executives are saying, yeah, podcasting 618 00:25:22,338 --> 00:25:25,298 is dead. But they're like, podcasting is 619 00:25:25,378 --> 00:25:27,618 alive and well. Stay 620 00:25:27,618 --> 00:25:30,018 consistent with your 621 00:25:30,018 --> 00:25:32,179 episodes and your production, just like 622 00:25:32,179 --> 00:25:33,859 you are with your health and wellness. 623 00:25:34,419 --> 00:25:36,819 You don't get any reward or any 624 00:25:37,139 --> 00:25:39,459 more people or get healthier if you're 625 00:25:39,459 --> 00:25:42,019 not consistent with your episode. 626 00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:44,979 Let your audience know. When you're 627 00:25:44,979 --> 00:25:46,979 publishing. So if you're publishing 628 00:25:46,979 --> 00:25:49,859 episodic or you do every week or I do 629 00:25:49,859 --> 00:25:52,179 every other week on my podcast, they need 630 00:25:52,179 --> 00:25:53,939 to know so they can wrap their head 631 00:25:53,939 --> 00:25:55,939 around it and want to have the right 632 00:25:55,939 --> 00:25:58,499 explicit essence. But stick with it 633 00:25:58,859 --> 00:26:01,539 and don't give up because somebody said 634 00:26:01,779 --> 00:26:04,739 podcasting is dead. Yeah, I like that. 635 00:26:05,019 --> 00:26:07,459 That's pretty good advice. We got went to 636 00:26:07,459 --> 00:26:09,899 this last year and I think the lesson 637 00:26:09,899 --> 00:26:12,659 that I learned was having conversations. 638 00:26:12,979 --> 00:26:14,339 I think I've gotten a little bit more out 639 00:26:14,339 --> 00:26:16,019 of it. Like you said there, you don't 640 00:26:16,019 --> 00:26:18,499 know what other people are interested in 641 00:26:18,499 --> 00:26:20,659 or like what skills they have or maybe 642 00:26:20,899 --> 00:26:22,659 the tools that they know that you maybe 643 00:26:22,659 --> 00:26:24,499 never heard of. And so I've been getting 644 00:26:24,499 --> 00:26:26,579 a lot out of like, OK, what are you doing 645 00:26:26,579 --> 00:26:28,259 with your podcast and how is that 646 00:26:28,259 --> 00:26:30,099 contributing to your business?And it's 647 00:26:30,099 --> 00:26:32,499 been, well, this is only like our second 648 00:26:32,579 --> 00:26:34,419 day. And I'm like, OK, I'm feeling pretty 649 00:26:34,419 --> 00:26:36,779 full. I'm loving this. I'm like looking 650 00:26:36,779 --> 00:26:38,179 at my schedule today. I'm oh, I'm going 651 00:26:38,179 --> 00:26:39,819 to have this league and talk to someone 652 00:26:39,819 --> 00:26:41,379 later. I'm going to attend this session. 653 00:26:41,379 --> 00:26:43,179 Oh, let's see what they're doing. And 654 00:26:43,179 --> 00:26:45,699 it's it's really fun. It's also, 655 00:26:46,499 --> 00:26:48,579 I think for us, being 656 00:26:48,579 --> 00:26:51,299 solopreneurs, it is 657 00:26:51,699 --> 00:26:53,619 a feeling that we're not allowed. Oh my 658 00:26:53,619 --> 00:26:55,780 gosh, right. That there are others that 659 00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:58,980 suffer the same as we. Yesterday I 660 00:26:58,980 --> 00:27:01,340 went to a roundtable or brain date 661 00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:03,700 discussion with the leader of them was 662 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,420 somebody from NPR. And I'm talking about, 663 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:08,260 you know, the challenges that I have 664 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:10,700 growing my podcast. And then he talks 665 00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,620 about his NPR situation. And I looked 666 00:27:13,620 --> 00:27:15,980 at him and I said, you're so big, you 667 00:27:15,980 --> 00:27:18,260 have the same problems we have. And he 668 00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:20,700 said, just on a larger scale. 669 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:24,020 So I was like, I'm not alone. Even the 670 00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:25,380 big guys have trouble. 671 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:29,060 We're all learning. We're all growing. 672 00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:30,660 That, I think that's absolutely 673 00:27:30,660 --> 00:27:32,900 incredible. Well, thank you so much for 674 00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:34,740 waiting here. Before we finalize, do you 675 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:37,380 have any questions for me?What made you 676 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:40,340 want to start a podcast?I like 677 00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:43,060 storytelling. And so I 678 00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:45,220 wanted to make sure that I have a place 679 00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:47,340 to, like, keep a collection of stories 680 00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:49,860 and podcasting kind of became that. So 681 00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:51,460 instead of me just recording little voice 682 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:54,300 notes and telling my friends, I was like, 683 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:55,540 well, let's just see if somebody else 684 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:58,060 wants to hear. And it started with the 685 00:27:58,060 --> 00:27:59,860 friends that I have and of course, and 686 00:27:59,860 --> 00:28:01,940 then randomly someone would be like, if I 687 00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:04,260 was not consistent, Grace, where's your 688 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:06,540 next episode?And I was like, oh, oh, OK, 689 00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:08,540 sorry. I mean, thank you, but sorry, you 690 00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:10,820 know?And so I think I kind of got into 691 00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:12,580 that, but it was just that storytelling. 692 00:28:12,580 --> 00:28:14,340 I've always loved to tell stories. And 693 00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:16,300 now when I get to do interviews, I get to 694 00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:18,061 hear other people's stories. And just 695 00:28:18,061 --> 00:28:20,301 like one of the speakers yesterday was 696 00:28:20,301 --> 00:28:23,101 talking about how talking to someone and 697 00:28:23,101 --> 00:28:24,661 like you are learning their story, 698 00:28:24,661 --> 00:28:26,341 getting to know them, and you kind of 699 00:28:26,341 --> 00:28:28,901 fall in love with people, like the person 700 00:28:28,901 --> 00:28:30,501 or the people that they are, the history 701 00:28:30,501 --> 00:28:33,061 that they bring. I enjoy all of that. So 702 00:28:33,061 --> 00:28:35,061 podcasting has been like. I don't know, 703 00:28:35,061 --> 00:28:37,061 it's been a really fun gift. Do you have 704 00:28:37,061 --> 00:28:38,861 a favorite story that we have time to 705 00:28:38,861 --> 00:28:41,621 tell?I can tell you about my skydiving 706 00:28:41,621 --> 00:28:43,221 story. That's it. That 707 00:28:45,381 --> 00:28:47,621 was actually, so my skydiving, my cousin 708 00:28:47,621 --> 00:28:50,581 was graduating from law school and 709 00:28:50,581 --> 00:28:52,261 her gift to herself was she wanted to go 710 00:28:52,261 --> 00:28:54,981 skydiving. And I was like, sure, 711 00:28:55,141 --> 00:28:57,461 why not, you know?And we get on this 712 00:28:57,461 --> 00:28:59,021 plane and I'm just trying to like keep my 713 00:28:59,021 --> 00:29:00,741 wits together. You know, you're like too 714 00:29:00,741 --> 00:29:02,101 nervous to realize that you're nervous, 715 00:29:02,341 --> 00:29:04,661 didn't click. until we got up into the 716 00:29:04,661 --> 00:29:07,381 sky and we're leaning out and you're like 717 00:29:07,461 --> 00:29:08,861 tandem, so you're strapped with someone 718 00:29:08,861 --> 00:29:10,981 else. And they open the door and like you 719 00:29:10,981 --> 00:29:12,901 know the first people hop off. And I was 720 00:29:12,901 --> 00:29:15,861 like, oh, sign me up for this. Why am I 721 00:29:15,901 --> 00:29:17,541 up here?You know But of course, you're 722 00:29:17,701 --> 00:29:19,461 way too late to back up. So we get on the 723 00:29:19,461 --> 00:29:22,101 edge and you just fall out of the 724 00:29:22,141 --> 00:29:23,541 plane. Forward to backwards. And you're 725 00:29:23,541 --> 00:29:26,021 falling backwards, 'cause you have to do, 726 00:29:26,021 --> 00:29:28,101 there's like a little banana thing. Yeah, 727 00:29:28,101 --> 00:29:30,261 I don't. I don't know. I may have blacked 728 00:29:30,261 --> 00:29:32,821 out. You just just fall forward, right? 729 00:29:33,381 --> 00:29:36,341 And then I remember just screaming 730 00:29:36,501 --> 00:29:39,141 for like what felt like 5 minutes 731 00:29:39,381 --> 00:29:40,822 and I had to take a really deep breath 732 00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:42,262 and then continue screaming. I was like, 733 00:29:42,262 --> 00:29:44,462 I think I'm good. I'm why am I still 734 00:29:44,462 --> 00:29:46,582 screaming?I think we're fine. And I was 735 00:29:46,582 --> 00:29:47,942 able to like, you know, get the tears out 736 00:29:47,942 --> 00:29:49,462 of my eyes and just look around at 737 00:29:49,462 --> 00:29:52,102 everything. And it's just gorgeous 738 00:29:52,502 --> 00:29:54,982 green, that beautiful blue lakes. You can 739 00:29:54,982 --> 00:29:57,222 see some farm like we're in Florida. So 740 00:29:57,222 --> 00:29:59,422 it's just a beautiful blend of like color 741 00:29:59,422 --> 00:30:02,022 and water and the sky was blue 742 00:30:02,262 --> 00:30:04,182 and they open up the parachute and now 743 00:30:04,182 --> 00:30:06,382 we're just gliding. And I remember just 744 00:30:06,382 --> 00:30:08,742 being like, God, this is so 745 00:30:08,822 --> 00:30:11,702 nice. I am 746 00:30:11,702 --> 00:30:13,942 so grateful to be here. I am 747 00:30:14,022 --> 00:30:16,742 enjoying like it was a wonderful 748 00:30:16,902 --> 00:30:18,662 conversation, a moment of just being 749 00:30:18,662 --> 00:30:21,462 like, I'm so happy to be alive and I 750 00:30:21,462 --> 00:30:23,542 appreciate the life that I have, so. 751 00:30:23,942 --> 00:30:25,382 Yeah, that's that's like one of my 752 00:30:25,382 --> 00:30:27,782 favorite stories. I love it. Thank you so 753 00:30:27,782 --> 00:30:29,062 much. Not that I would jump out of that. 754 00:30:29,142 --> 00:30:31,062 I'm like, I'm a phobia with height, but. 755 00:30:31,222 --> 00:30:33,942 Okay. But I admire the the 756 00:30:33,942 --> 00:30:36,662 bravery of you to to be willing to do 757 00:30:36,662 --> 00:30:38,662 that. It was incredible. It was 758 00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:41,542 incredible. Yeah. That's like the 759 00:30:41,542 --> 00:30:42,982 only word that she and I could come up 760 00:30:43,062 --> 00:30:44,702 with. Like, we just, it was 761 00:30:44,702 --> 00:30:47,302 life-changing. See?Absolutely. That's 762 00:30:47,422 --> 00:30:50,342 what adventures are all about. Yes. Yes 763 00:30:50,782 --> 00:30:53,342 And travel, right?And travel. Yeah. And 764 00:30:53,342 --> 00:30:54,862 traveled from high up to down. I 765 00:30:57,662 --> 00:30:59,622 sure did. Look, kicking and screaming. 766 00:30:59,622 --> 00:31:02,582 Literally. OK. Well, thank 767 00:31:02,582 --> 00:31:04,423 you so much, Iggy, for joining me today. 768 00:31:04,503 --> 00:31:07,223 I am so glad that we're able to have this 769 00:31:07,223 --> 00:31:09,863 live session and get this chat. like 770 00:31:09,943 --> 00:31:11,743 finally make our official interview. 771 00:31:11,743 --> 00:31:14,103 That's exactly right. I mean, we've had 772 00:31:14,263 --> 00:31:16,743 like our personal interview at bar and at 773 00:31:16,983 --> 00:31:19,863 whatever else, at the golf course. So I'm 774 00:31:19,863 --> 00:31:21,823 glad. Super. My pleasure. Thank you so 775 00:31:21,823 --> 00:31:22,743 much. Thank you. 776 00:31:25,063 --> 00:31:27,303 Hey there, Grace here. I hope you enjoyed 777 00:31:27,303 --> 00:31:29,303 today's episode and gained some useful 778 00:31:29,303 --> 00:31:31,183 takeaways. Thank you so much for 779 00:31:31,183 --> 00:31:32,983 listening and staying until the end. 780 00:31:33,143 --> 00:31:35,543 Don't forget to rate the show or share it 781 00:31:35,543 --> 00:31:37,863 with some friends. Have a wonderful week, 782 00:31:38,023 --> 00:31:40,743 take care, and remember, be bold, be 783 00:31:40,743 --> 00:31:43,383 curious, be ready to tell your story. You 784 00:31:43,383 --> 00:31:45,063 never know who needs it. Bye-bye.