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Welcome everyone to our newest episode.

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I'm thrilled that it's Kirsten and I presenting just today, and we're

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excited to talk about bookkeeping.

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Which is one of the first things that I outsource in my business,

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and I'm so grateful for it.

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But before we say, we're just talking about bookkeeping, we're talking

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about how to help you build a kick ass very profitable business, and

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to be the CFO in your business.

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That's what bookkeeping does for you, right?

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Bookkeeping sounds so boring, and I don't wanna do the bookkeeping, but

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bookkeeping is magic because it gives you so much flippant information

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to make decisions in your business.

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Okay, so what is one of the things that people miss when they are.

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Either doing their bookkeeping or not doing their bookkeeping.

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Yeah, it's interesting because so many small businesses

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totally miss write-offs, right?

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There's things that they could write off which would lower their tax obligation,

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but because of lack of organization, because of lack of bookkeeping, they

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end up paying more taxes than they need to, and that's so challenging

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because when you're building a business.

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Every penny counts.

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Whether you're going from zero to 50,000, 50,000 to two 50, or you're trying

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to get over that million dollar mark.

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Being smart and strategic about your money is incredibly important.

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And missing write-offs and paying more taxes just doesn't make any sense.

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Are there certain write-offs that a lot of people miss?

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Some obvious ones maybe.

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Yeah, I think there's some really simple ones that we see a lot of times, like

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home offices or percentage of utilities, and I feel like partly because that's

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not always tracked in your bookkeeping, but it's one of those things that

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people think's not really gonna add up.

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First of all, for those of you that have an LLC or you're incorporated, you

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have bylaws that you have to abide by in order to have the legal protection

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of that LLC or that incorporation.

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And one of those things is not co-mingling funds.

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So if you are co-mingling funds, you may not have the protection

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that you're expecting to have with your LLC or your incorporation.

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What happens is when people are commingling their funds, it's

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an easy way to miss write-offs.

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You're paying for things outta your personal account, and then

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you forget to write them off.

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A few months go by and you just totally forget about them.

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Or at the end of the year, you're trying to pull all these

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receipts together and sort it out.

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Is that my personal number?

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Is that my business account number?

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And it's a mess.

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So you can really miss all kinds of tax deductions.

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When you're not organized and you're not planning where your money's going.

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Yeah.

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I love that.

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That makes so much sense.

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I remember you encouraging me to do that when I first started my business.

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It was just a really nice definition of, this is personal

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stuff, this is business stuff.

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And then like you said, it, when you have to pull it all together, you're

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not confused about which is which.

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Yeah.

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It's interesting because I was talking to one of our clients, she

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started her business not long ago and she's not quite profitable yet.

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She's probably spent a little bit more money than she needs to, which

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we're working on with her bookkeeping, va. But she was doing just that.

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She was spending her personal money, and I said, if you have to spend

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your personal money, sometimes your business might need an influx of cash.

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Lend your business the money, write a check to your business as a loan,

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$500, a thousand dollars, $10,000, whatever that looks like, and then use

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the money from your business account.

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Then you can pay that money back as a loan rather than it looks like income.

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And then you're paying taxes on it.

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So that was one thing that, you know, if you're at that place where your business

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is struggling a little bit month to month, or every now and then, and you're

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just commingling because of that reason, it doesn't mean you can't ever use

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personal income in your business, but you wanna invest it like a business owner.

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You wanna think about your business as a separate entity and make a loan.

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And then if I'm not mistaken, a lot of people don't take all the

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mileage writeups that we have now.

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A lot of us don't have as much mileage as we used to, but again, it's something

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that people probably say it's not that important, but it's one of those things,

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if I'm not mistaken, that does add up.

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Yeah, mileage can definitely add up.

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And the problem is people, they worry about getting audited, which they should.

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And because they haven't really tracked their mileage, they're not

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using a simple mileage app, they don't have a really good record of it.

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So most accountants and will tell you to err on the side of caution

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if you really can't documented it.

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Don't just jump in and guess and have 10,000 miles this year.

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So you really wanna make sure you're documenting your mileage

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and it's, everything is so much easier now because of technology.

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There really isn't any reason not to do that.

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Yeah.

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You don't have to have those little books anymore where you write down where you

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started, where you ended, and then you gotta pull up Map Quest or something

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to figure out how many miles it was.

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Yeah.

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So let's talk about another issue people sometimes have with

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bookkeeping and actually what bookkeeping will alleviate, and that

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is subscription creep they call it.

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Yeah.

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That's really funny.

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'cause a lot, again, it goes back to our clients when they first

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start working with their bookkeeping VAs, we hear it all the time.

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I had no idea I was still paying for this.

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Oh my gosh.

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Or I was looking at all of these different subscriptions I have and

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realized half of them I'm not even using.

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So again, as a business owner, you get so busy, you're out trying to make money.

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You're working with your clients, you're trying to make them happy.

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You've got all kinds of things going on.

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So it's very easy, and that's why subscriptions, memberships, and things

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like that can be so profitable is because people often forget that they have them.

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What we find most of the time is clients are often paying for multiple

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softwares and they don't need to be.

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So some examples of that is one of our clients, she's on our software from leads

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to sales, our white labeled version of high level, and she was still paying for

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a software that would do QR codes for that can be done right in the software.

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Or you'll have someone who has something like.

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They're still using Calendly even though it could be done in their software.

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So as things are moving a lot faster with technology, a lot of times you

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don't need all of these different softwares when everything can be in

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one place and way more cost effective.

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But yeah, all those little subscriptions can add up quickly.

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And what about the ones that you sign up for a week free or two weeks free?

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Do you know why they do that?

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Because a lot of people forget and then they'll just carry on

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and see build month after month.

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Yeah, and it's so powerful because again, we get really busy and you

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think, oh, it's $10 here, $20 there.

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It's not gonna make or break me.

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But the reality is when you start looking at your money each month and

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you realize that there's just all these little tiny leaks in your bucket.

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That money adds up quickly.

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And so by sending those subscriptions and really knowing where your

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money's going each month, it gives you the power to choose.

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It's also, I know shopping for our business cell phones, Jeannie, we

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make sure to do something every couple of years because otherwise

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they will continue to go up.

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This isn't about business, this is about personal, but I

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want you to think about this.

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On one vehicle I had, one vehicle that I've registered in Florida is mine and.

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I've had the same insurance company for the past few years, and it had gone up.

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It was almost, it was coming out like $2,000.

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I shopped it and I'm saving $800 a year.

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Think about that.

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$800 a year on auto insurance.

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And so as a business owner, think about, are your cell phone bills going up?

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Is there anything in your business that you can shop for,

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even your business insurance?

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Can you shop for those things that make sure you're getting the best prices?

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Because sometimes when you're with the same company.

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It's kind of being boiled slowly, right?

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They just go up a little bit each year and you're so busy you just

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think, oh, that must be normal.

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I hear about how expensive insurance is in Florida.

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So I guess that's just the way it is.

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And this year I was like, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna spend

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some time and check around.

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I was blown away that it was an $800 savings.

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So yeah, we can end up wasting a lot of money.

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I think that can be personal as well as business.

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And that's another thing that I love, Jeannie, is so often our clients will

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have once their bookkeeping VAs up and running with all their business stuff and

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they built a great relationship with them.

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They'll often have their bookkeeping VA take care of their business and

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personal bookkeeping and that can just help them save so much money.

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But actually I have a real life example as well, and that is our home wifi,

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which I also use for my business.

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And I had.

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The same subscription I've had for years and years.

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And then I think something, I had an issue with it, something wasn't working, and

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so when I reached out to them, I said, what kind of deal can you gimme now?

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Oh, we can give you this deal.

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It halved my cost and from I think $150 to $70 a month.

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I was shocked that, like you said, we forget when we use the same

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company over and over, that A, we can shop it and that B, there just

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may be a better package you can get.

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And you're probably getting faster internet, better package all together.

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So Great.

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And again, we get so busy.

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I know, Jeannie, when you started your business, your kids were little and then

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you were taking care of aging parents.

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Took care of both my parents when they were ill.

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And so you go through these phases.

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It's not just life, it's business, but we get so busy.

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There's so much going on, and sometimes there's things that are just more

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important than sitting down and shopping around for that or trying

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to find that other pack of receipts that we could use for write offs.

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So being proactive and having support.

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I always like to use this, the word support, because when I think

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about outsourcing, whether it's.

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To a bookkeeping va, or you're using a software virtual assistant or a marketing

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virtual assistant, it really is about having someone in your business to support

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the things that need to get done in order to allow you to run a really profitable

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business and have time for your life.

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I, I, I feel we're a little older than a lot of the other business owners that

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we talk to, and I feel like burnout has become such a big thing in some cases.

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I feel like it's almost been a, a badge of honor, and I guess that

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maybe that comes from the hustle culture, but being self-employed for

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so many years, you're going on what?

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18 years of being self-employed?

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I've never burned out, and I think it's because you and I have both

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understood the value of outsourcing.

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And the value of having support in our business, or even sometimes

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it's having support at home, right?

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It could be someone that cleans the house or cuts the grass or things like that.

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You can't do it all and you shouldn't.

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And build a balanced, healthy life.

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Yeah.

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And especially the bookkeeping part, because that's the part that

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we always feel bad about because we have, ugh, we're behind in our numbers

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and ugh, we haven't looked at this.

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And then there's that guilt and that shame of having that.

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But when you have a bookkeeping person, a bookkeeping, virtual assistant.

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You're looking at those numbers at least every month and you're

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feeling really good about it.

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Even if the numbers aren't great, there isn't a lot of revenue coming in.

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You still know what your goals are and you know what you need to bring in

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order to take care of those expenses.

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So yeah, so valuable.

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I love the whole concept of what we focus on.

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We get, and if you focus on having a financially healthy business.

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That's what you'll end up getting by going out and getting more clients,

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raising your prices if you need to.

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Eliminating some of your offers by having the information that bookkeeping

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provides, because yes, we need bookkeeping for taxes, but the reality

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is solid bookkeeping allows you to make decisions in real time based on the

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numbers that you have, and that's really part of building a stable financial

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business that can continue to grow.

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Because if you're not looking at that financial foundation and a great

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opportunity comes along to grow, you may not have the money for it, or

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you may not have put the structure in place with other support people on

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your team to be able to take on great opportunities or to double your income

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or to scale at the level you want.

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So understanding your numbers and really being active with

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your finances, it doesn't mean you have to do your bookkeeping.

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It just means you need to be involved with your bookkeeping

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and reviewing things and really strategizing about how you wanna use.

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Your money.

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Yeah, because I think a lot of people see their sales and they assume

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that's net revenue, and it's not.

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It's gross revenue, right?

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You have to take into consideration what am I paying for this?

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What do I pay every month for that?

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Or every once a year?

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And so yeah, it's really important for you to stay on top of that.

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Yeah, it's interesting because I was talking to someone, I was being

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interviewed on a podcast the other day, and I don't recall who it is,

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but we were talking after the podcast interview and the host said, do

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you know so, and, and I said, no.

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Who?

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She was saying, oh, he is a great guy, blah, blah, blah.

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He does, I, I think she said he does like 3 million in revenue, but he is

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running like an 85% profit margin.

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And I'm like, dang, that's impressive.

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So you could have a $3 million business and make 50 grand a year.

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And that means you've got a lot of headaches, a lot of liability, and a lot

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of work for very little income that you're pulling out very little profit and salary

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that you're pulling out for yourself.

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So I think that's another way we like to encourage our clients

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to look at your business.

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You wanna look at it?

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As your growth revenue, you wanna look at it in the sense, are you

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pulling out a fair salary, something that will be competitive in the

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marketplace, and then on top of your salary, is your business profitable?

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So you're taking distributions.

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And I think when people start to understand that part, it allows

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you to cut costs anywhere you can.

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If that money's not working for you and making a difference,

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maybe you don't need to spend it.

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And then how can you lower your cost?

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And it's interesting because.

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We were, I was talking to someone and there's a bookkeeping shortage in the us.

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There's just not a lot of bookkeepers, and I actually hire bookkeepers

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for bookkeeping companies and CPA companies, which is how you and I

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ended up here today helping our clients hire bookkeeping virtual assistants.

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But it's interesting because if you're a small business and we help

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you hire a bookkeeper at $6 an hour.

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So maybe your software's costing you $20 a month and your bookkeeper's

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costing you $30 a month.

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So you're paying 50 bucks a month for your bookkeeping as your business

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grows and you become more profitable, and you could afford to pay 50 to a

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hundred dollars an hour in the us.

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But why?

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Why pay more money for the same service?

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You can get at a very cost effective rate.

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So that's one of the things we're always talking about.

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Is there a way to get the same quality of service or product at a better

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price when you're thinking about how you're growing your business?

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I love that.

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Okay.

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Another thing that people make the mistake in their bookkeeping

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is, this is the big one, tax time.

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They're not ready when the CPA says.

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I need your stuff, or when that time of year rolls around and they go, oh, I

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gotta pull all this stuff together, and then they're frantic for weeks and weeks

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trying to find things that they had.

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So that goes back to missing all of those write-offs and overpaying for services

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and subscriptions and things like that.

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So yeah, it's, think about the mental health, the mental stress

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and anxiety and wasted energy.

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Just so much wasted energy knowing here comes April 15th.

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Oh man, I filed the extension.

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Or if you have an LLC, March 15th, I've got the extension

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filed so I can relax a little bit.

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But then all of a sudden, the next deadline comes and you're back to

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anxiety driven and in overdrive trying to get stuff together.

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It is so much better to go into tax season with everything done.

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You can hand it to your CPA, you could file your taxes without an extension,

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but also what happens is as your business becomes more profitable and you're

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able to take more money out personally.

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By having everything done regularly, you can start meeting with your CPA

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or your financial planner in advance.

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If you wanted to start contributing to your IRAs or things that are tax

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deferred, you can make a plan to do that to lower your tax liability.

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So by having a plan in place, you can start strategizing

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different tax strategies that may help you save more money.

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I've got this book right here.

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I have not read it yet.

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I actually want it in an event, and it's called The Power of Zero.

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It's basically like how to lower your taxes, how to get to a zero tax bracket.

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I don't know how you do that and make a lot of money, but I'm gonna read it

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and find out, and I'm actually gonna invite someone to come on our show to

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talk about this because we wanna make all the money we can and we all have an

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obligation to pay taxes and we wanna.

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Help put those kindergartners through kindergarten and get them through

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middle school and high school.

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We wanna make sure our roads are taken care of.

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We wanna make sure that we're taking care of elderly people,

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like paying our taxes is important.

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It funds the police department.

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It does all of these things.

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We want to pay taxes, but you don't wanna pay more taxes than you have to.

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So the reality is by having great bookkeeping, you can start to really

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learn how to manage your money so that you are paying your fair share of

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taxes, but not overpaying in your taxes.

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I love that.

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So three mistakes that people make that we wanna make sure you

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don't make are missing write-offs.

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Two is subscription creep and the third is not being prepared

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and planning for your taxes.

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Yes, I'm hoping that everybody listening this has been really valuable for you and

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that you've learned a little bit today.

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And if you're actually interested in outsourcing your bookkeeping because

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it's something you know you should do or you don't want to do, we will

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put a link in the show notes to our program called Love Your Profit, where

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we will help you find an amazing and qualified bookkeeping virtual assistant.

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So thanks for joining us today.

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Thanks for listening to the six Figure Business Mastery Podcast.

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