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Speaker:Welcome everyone to our newest episode.
Speaker:I'm thrilled that it's Kirsten and I presenting just today, and we're
Speaker:excited to talk about bookkeeping.
Speaker:Which is one of the first things that I outsource in my business,
Speaker:and I'm so grateful for it.
Speaker:But before we say, we're just talking about bookkeeping, we're talking
Speaker:about how to help you build a kick ass very profitable business, and
Speaker:to be the CFO in your business.
Speaker:That's what bookkeeping does for you, right?
Speaker:Bookkeeping sounds so boring, and I don't wanna do the bookkeeping, but
Speaker:bookkeeping is magic because it gives you so much flippant information
Speaker:to make decisions in your business.
Speaker:Okay, so what is one of the things that people miss when they are.
Speaker:Either doing their bookkeeping or not doing their bookkeeping.
Speaker:Yeah, it's interesting because so many small businesses
Speaker:totally miss write-offs, right?
Speaker:There's things that they could write off which would lower their tax obligation,
Speaker:but because of lack of organization, because of lack of bookkeeping, they
Speaker:end up paying more taxes than they need to, and that's so challenging
Speaker:because when you're building a business.
Speaker:Every penny counts.
Speaker:Whether you're going from zero to 50,000, 50,000 to two 50, or you're trying
Speaker:to get over that million dollar mark.
Speaker:Being smart and strategic about your money is incredibly important.
Speaker:And missing write-offs and paying more taxes just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker:Are there certain write-offs that a lot of people miss?
Speaker:Some obvious ones maybe.
Speaker:Yeah, I think there's some really simple ones that we see a lot of times, like
Speaker:home offices or percentage of utilities, and I feel like partly because that's
Speaker:not always tracked in your bookkeeping, but it's one of those things that
Speaker:people think's not really gonna add up.
Speaker:First of all, for those of you that have an LLC or you're incorporated, you
Speaker:have bylaws that you have to abide by in order to have the legal protection
Speaker:of that LLC or that incorporation.
Speaker:And one of those things is not co-mingling funds.
Speaker:So if you are co-mingling funds, you may not have the protection
Speaker:that you're expecting to have with your LLC or your incorporation.
Speaker:What happens is when people are commingling their funds, it's
Speaker:an easy way to miss write-offs.
Speaker:You're paying for things outta your personal account, and then
Speaker:you forget to write them off.
Speaker:A few months go by and you just totally forget about them.
Speaker:Or at the end of the year, you're trying to pull all these
Speaker:receipts together and sort it out.
Speaker:Is that my personal number?
Speaker:Is that my business account number?
Speaker:And it's a mess.
Speaker:So you can really miss all kinds of tax deductions.
Speaker:When you're not organized and you're not planning where your money's going.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:That makes so much sense.
Speaker:I remember you encouraging me to do that when I first started my business.
Speaker:It was just a really nice definition of, this is personal
Speaker:stuff, this is business stuff.
Speaker:And then like you said, it, when you have to pull it all together, you're
Speaker:not confused about which is which.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's interesting because I was talking to one of our clients, she
Speaker:started her business not long ago and she's not quite profitable yet.
Speaker:She's probably spent a little bit more money than she needs to, which
Speaker:we're working on with her bookkeeping, va. But she was doing just that.
Speaker:She was spending her personal money, and I said, if you have to spend
Speaker:your personal money, sometimes your business might need an influx of cash.
Speaker:Lend your business the money, write a check to your business as a loan,
Speaker:$500, a thousand dollars, $10,000, whatever that looks like, and then use
Speaker:the money from your business account.
Speaker:Then you can pay that money back as a loan rather than it looks like income.
Speaker:And then you're paying taxes on it.
Speaker:So that was one thing that, you know, if you're at that place where your business
Speaker:is struggling a little bit month to month, or every now and then, and you're
Speaker:just commingling because of that reason, it doesn't mean you can't ever use
Speaker:personal income in your business, but you wanna invest it like a business owner.
Speaker:You wanna think about your business as a separate entity and make a loan.
Speaker:And then if I'm not mistaken, a lot of people don't take all the
Speaker:mileage writeups that we have now.
Speaker:A lot of us don't have as much mileage as we used to, but again, it's something
Speaker:that people probably say it's not that important, but it's one of those things,
Speaker:if I'm not mistaken, that does add up.
Speaker:Yeah, mileage can definitely add up.
Speaker:And the problem is people, they worry about getting audited, which they should.
Speaker:And because they haven't really tracked their mileage, they're not
Speaker:using a simple mileage app, they don't have a really good record of it.
Speaker:So most accountants and will tell you to err on the side of caution
Speaker:if you really can't documented it.
Speaker:Don't just jump in and guess and have 10,000 miles this year.
Speaker:So you really wanna make sure you're documenting your mileage
Speaker:and it's, everything is so much easier now because of technology.
Speaker:There really isn't any reason not to do that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You don't have to have those little books anymore where you write down where you
Speaker:started, where you ended, and then you gotta pull up Map Quest or something
Speaker:to figure out how many miles it was.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So let's talk about another issue people sometimes have with
Speaker:bookkeeping and actually what bookkeeping will alleviate, and that
Speaker:is subscription creep they call it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's really funny.
Speaker:'cause a lot, again, it goes back to our clients when they first
Speaker:start working with their bookkeeping VAs, we hear it all the time.
Speaker:I had no idea I was still paying for this.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:Or I was looking at all of these different subscriptions I have and
Speaker:realized half of them I'm not even using.
Speaker:So again, as a business owner, you get so busy, you're out trying to make money.
Speaker:You're working with your clients, you're trying to make them happy.
Speaker:You've got all kinds of things going on.
Speaker:So it's very easy, and that's why subscriptions, memberships, and things
Speaker:like that can be so profitable is because people often forget that they have them.
Speaker:What we find most of the time is clients are often paying for multiple
Speaker:softwares and they don't need to be.
Speaker:So some examples of that is one of our clients, she's on our software from leads
Speaker:to sales, our white labeled version of high level, and she was still paying for
Speaker:a software that would do QR codes for that can be done right in the software.
Speaker:Or you'll have someone who has something like.
Speaker:They're still using Calendly even though it could be done in their software.
Speaker:So as things are moving a lot faster with technology, a lot of times you
Speaker:don't need all of these different softwares when everything can be in
Speaker:one place and way more cost effective.
Speaker:But yeah, all those little subscriptions can add up quickly.
Speaker:And what about the ones that you sign up for a week free or two weeks free?
Speaker:Do you know why they do that?
Speaker:Because a lot of people forget and then they'll just carry on
Speaker:and see build month after month.
Speaker:Yeah, and it's so powerful because again, we get really busy and you
Speaker:think, oh, it's $10 here, $20 there.
Speaker:It's not gonna make or break me.
Speaker:But the reality is when you start looking at your money each month and
Speaker:you realize that there's just all these little tiny leaks in your bucket.
Speaker:That money adds up quickly.
Speaker:And so by sending those subscriptions and really knowing where your
Speaker:money's going each month, it gives you the power to choose.
Speaker:It's also, I know shopping for our business cell phones, Jeannie, we
Speaker:make sure to do something every couple of years because otherwise
Speaker:they will continue to go up.
Speaker:This isn't about business, this is about personal, but I
Speaker:want you to think about this.
Speaker:On one vehicle I had, one vehicle that I've registered in Florida is mine and.
Speaker:I've had the same insurance company for the past few years, and it had gone up.
Speaker:It was almost, it was coming out like $2,000.
Speaker:I shopped it and I'm saving $800 a year.
Speaker:Think about that.
Speaker:$800 a year on auto insurance.
Speaker:And so as a business owner, think about, are your cell phone bills going up?
Speaker:Is there anything in your business that you can shop for,
Speaker:even your business insurance?
Speaker:Can you shop for those things that make sure you're getting the best prices?
Speaker:Because sometimes when you're with the same company.
Speaker:It's kind of being boiled slowly, right?
Speaker:They just go up a little bit each year and you're so busy you just
Speaker:think, oh, that must be normal.
Speaker:I hear about how expensive insurance is in Florida.
Speaker:So I guess that's just the way it is.
Speaker:And this year I was like, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna spend
Speaker:some time and check around.
Speaker:I was blown away that it was an $800 savings.
Speaker:So yeah, we can end up wasting a lot of money.
Speaker:I think that can be personal as well as business.
Speaker:And that's another thing that I love, Jeannie, is so often our clients will
Speaker:have once their bookkeeping VAs up and running with all their business stuff and
Speaker:they built a great relationship with them.
Speaker:They'll often have their bookkeeping VA take care of their business and
Speaker:personal bookkeeping and that can just help them save so much money.
Speaker:But actually I have a real life example as well, and that is our home wifi,
Speaker:which I also use for my business.
Speaker:And I had.
Speaker:The same subscription I've had for years and years.
Speaker:And then I think something, I had an issue with it, something wasn't working, and
Speaker:so when I reached out to them, I said, what kind of deal can you gimme now?
Speaker:Oh, we can give you this deal.
Speaker:It halved my cost and from I think $150 to $70 a month.
Speaker:I was shocked that, like you said, we forget when we use the same
Speaker:company over and over, that A, we can shop it and that B, there just
Speaker:may be a better package you can get.
Speaker:And you're probably getting faster internet, better package all together.
Speaker:So Great.
Speaker:And again, we get so busy.
Speaker:I know, Jeannie, when you started your business, your kids were little and then
Speaker:you were taking care of aging parents.
Speaker:Took care of both my parents when they were ill.
Speaker:And so you go through these phases.
Speaker:It's not just life, it's business, but we get so busy.
Speaker:There's so much going on, and sometimes there's things that are just more
Speaker:important than sitting down and shopping around for that or trying
Speaker:to find that other pack of receipts that we could use for write offs.
Speaker:So being proactive and having support.
Speaker:I always like to use this, the word support, because when I think
Speaker:about outsourcing, whether it's.
Speaker:To a bookkeeping va, or you're using a software virtual assistant or a marketing
Speaker:virtual assistant, it really is about having someone in your business to support
Speaker:the things that need to get done in order to allow you to run a really profitable
Speaker:business and have time for your life.
Speaker:I, I, I feel we're a little older than a lot of the other business owners that
Speaker:we talk to, and I feel like burnout has become such a big thing in some cases.
Speaker:I feel like it's almost been a, a badge of honor, and I guess that
Speaker:maybe that comes from the hustle culture, but being self-employed for
Speaker:so many years, you're going on what?
Speaker:18 years of being self-employed?
Speaker:I've never burned out, and I think it's because you and I have both
Speaker:understood the value of outsourcing.
Speaker:And the value of having support in our business, or even sometimes
Speaker:it's having support at home, right?
Speaker:It could be someone that cleans the house or cuts the grass or things like that.
Speaker:You can't do it all and you shouldn't.
Speaker:And build a balanced, healthy life.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And especially the bookkeeping part, because that's the part that
Speaker:we always feel bad about because we have, ugh, we're behind in our numbers
Speaker:and ugh, we haven't looked at this.
Speaker:And then there's that guilt and that shame of having that.
Speaker:But when you have a bookkeeping person, a bookkeeping, virtual assistant.
Speaker:You're looking at those numbers at least every month and you're
Speaker:feeling really good about it.
Speaker:Even if the numbers aren't great, there isn't a lot of revenue coming in.
Speaker:You still know what your goals are and you know what you need to bring in
Speaker:order to take care of those expenses.
Speaker:So yeah, so valuable.
Speaker:I love the whole concept of what we focus on.
Speaker:We get, and if you focus on having a financially healthy business.
Speaker:That's what you'll end up getting by going out and getting more clients,
Speaker:raising your prices if you need to.
Speaker:Eliminating some of your offers by having the information that bookkeeping
Speaker:provides, because yes, we need bookkeeping for taxes, but the reality
Speaker:is solid bookkeeping allows you to make decisions in real time based on the
Speaker:numbers that you have, and that's really part of building a stable financial
Speaker:business that can continue to grow.
Speaker:Because if you're not looking at that financial foundation and a great
Speaker:opportunity comes along to grow, you may not have the money for it, or
Speaker:you may not have put the structure in place with other support people on
Speaker:your team to be able to take on great opportunities or to double your income
Speaker:or to scale at the level you want.
Speaker:So understanding your numbers and really being active with
Speaker:your finances, it doesn't mean you have to do your bookkeeping.
Speaker:It just means you need to be involved with your bookkeeping
Speaker:and reviewing things and really strategizing about how you wanna use.
Speaker:Your money.
Speaker:Yeah, because I think a lot of people see their sales and they assume
Speaker:that's net revenue, and it's not.
Speaker:It's gross revenue, right?
Speaker:You have to take into consideration what am I paying for this?
Speaker:What do I pay every month for that?
Speaker:Or every once a year?
Speaker:And so yeah, it's really important for you to stay on top of that.
Speaker:Yeah, it's interesting because I was talking to someone, I was being
Speaker:interviewed on a podcast the other day, and I don't recall who it is,
Speaker:but we were talking after the podcast interview and the host said, do
Speaker:you know so, and, and I said, no.
Speaker:Who?
Speaker:She was saying, oh, he is a great guy, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker:He does, I, I think she said he does like 3 million in revenue, but he is
Speaker:running like an 85% profit margin.
Speaker:And I'm like, dang, that's impressive.
Speaker:So you could have a $3 million business and make 50 grand a year.
Speaker:And that means you've got a lot of headaches, a lot of liability, and a lot
Speaker:of work for very little income that you're pulling out very little profit and salary
Speaker:that you're pulling out for yourself.
Speaker:So I think that's another way we like to encourage our clients
Speaker:to look at your business.
Speaker:You wanna look at it?
Speaker:As your growth revenue, you wanna look at it in the sense, are you
Speaker:pulling out a fair salary, something that will be competitive in the
Speaker:marketplace, and then on top of your salary, is your business profitable?
Speaker:So you're taking distributions.
Speaker:And I think when people start to understand that part, it allows
Speaker:you to cut costs anywhere you can.
Speaker:If that money's not working for you and making a difference,
Speaker:maybe you don't need to spend it.
Speaker:And then how can you lower your cost?
Speaker:And it's interesting because.
Speaker:We were, I was talking to someone and there's a bookkeeping shortage in the us.
Speaker:There's just not a lot of bookkeepers, and I actually hire bookkeepers
Speaker:for bookkeeping companies and CPA companies, which is how you and I
Speaker:ended up here today helping our clients hire bookkeeping virtual assistants.
Speaker:But it's interesting because if you're a small business and we help
Speaker:you hire a bookkeeper at $6 an hour.
Speaker:So maybe your software's costing you $20 a month and your bookkeeper's
Speaker:costing you $30 a month.
Speaker:So you're paying 50 bucks a month for your bookkeeping as your business
Speaker:grows and you become more profitable, and you could afford to pay 50 to a
Speaker:hundred dollars an hour in the us.
Speaker:But why?
Speaker:Why pay more money for the same service?
Speaker:You can get at a very cost effective rate.
Speaker:So that's one of the things we're always talking about.
Speaker:Is there a way to get the same quality of service or product at a better
Speaker:price when you're thinking about how you're growing your business?
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Another thing that people make the mistake in their bookkeeping
Speaker:is, this is the big one, tax time.
Speaker:They're not ready when the CPA says.
Speaker:I need your stuff, or when that time of year rolls around and they go, oh, I
Speaker:gotta pull all this stuff together, and then they're frantic for weeks and weeks
Speaker:trying to find things that they had.
Speaker:So that goes back to missing all of those write-offs and overpaying for services
Speaker:and subscriptions and things like that.
Speaker:So yeah, it's, think about the mental health, the mental stress
Speaker:and anxiety and wasted energy.
Speaker:Just so much wasted energy knowing here comes April 15th.
Speaker:Oh man, I filed the extension.
Speaker:Or if you have an LLC, March 15th, I've got the extension
Speaker:filed so I can relax a little bit.
Speaker:But then all of a sudden, the next deadline comes and you're back to
Speaker:anxiety driven and in overdrive trying to get stuff together.
Speaker:It is so much better to go into tax season with everything done.
Speaker:You can hand it to your CPA, you could file your taxes without an extension,
Speaker:but also what happens is as your business becomes more profitable and you're
Speaker:able to take more money out personally.
Speaker:By having everything done regularly, you can start meeting with your CPA
Speaker:or your financial planner in advance.
Speaker:If you wanted to start contributing to your IRAs or things that are tax
Speaker:deferred, you can make a plan to do that to lower your tax liability.
Speaker:So by having a plan in place, you can start strategizing
Speaker:different tax strategies that may help you save more money.
Speaker:I've got this book right here.
Speaker:I have not read it yet.
Speaker:I actually want it in an event, and it's called The Power of Zero.
Speaker:It's basically like how to lower your taxes, how to get to a zero tax bracket.
Speaker:I don't know how you do that and make a lot of money, but I'm gonna read it
Speaker:and find out, and I'm actually gonna invite someone to come on our show to
Speaker:talk about this because we wanna make all the money we can and we all have an
Speaker:obligation to pay taxes and we wanna.
Speaker:Help put those kindergartners through kindergarten and get them through
Speaker:middle school and high school.
Speaker:We wanna make sure our roads are taken care of.
Speaker:We wanna make sure that we're taking care of elderly people,
Speaker:like paying our taxes is important.
Speaker:It funds the police department.
Speaker:It does all of these things.
Speaker:We want to pay taxes, but you don't wanna pay more taxes than you have to.
Speaker:So the reality is by having great bookkeeping, you can start to really
Speaker:learn how to manage your money so that you are paying your fair share of
Speaker:taxes, but not overpaying in your taxes.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:So three mistakes that people make that we wanna make sure you
Speaker:don't make are missing write-offs.
Speaker:Two is subscription creep and the third is not being prepared
Speaker:and planning for your taxes.
Speaker:Yes, I'm hoping that everybody listening this has been really valuable for you and
Speaker:that you've learned a little bit today.
Speaker:And if you're actually interested in outsourcing your bookkeeping because
Speaker:it's something you know you should do or you don't want to do, we will
Speaker:put a link in the show notes to our program called Love Your Profit, where
Speaker:we will help you find an amazing and qualified bookkeeping virtual assistant.
Speaker:So thanks for joining us today.
Speaker:Thanks for listening to the six Figure Business Mastery Podcast.
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