Welcome back, everyone.
Speaker AWe're here.
Speaker AHot Breath, your weekly comedy tune up with comedians Joel Byers and Yoshi.
Speaker ASo hope you all had a good week out there.
Speaker AYoshi was roasting my hair before this.
Speaker AIt's getting.
Speaker AIt's getting out of hand.
Speaker BIt is.
Speaker BBut I just saw Joel this weekend, just saw Joe, and he was buttoned up.
Speaker BHe was just smooth.
Speaker BHe was performing.
Speaker BHe just crushed on the show, and he was just in good spirits.
Speaker BAnd then I saw him this morning, and I was like, man, it looked like the weekend won Joel Byers 0.
Speaker BBecause it looked like on your face, your hair.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AFor those of the.
Speaker AFor those of you that want to see, I'm gonna post this video on the Patreon.
Speaker ABut it is a.
Speaker AIt's real out here in these streets, dudes.
Speaker BReal out here in these streets.
Speaker AI mean, the show you saw me at, Yeah, I had been up since 5am that day.
Speaker BLet's go.
Speaker AYou know, my wife and I are in the local rose society, so this weekend was the big Mother's Day rose show that our group does at the Atlanta Botanical Gardens.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo we were up at 5:00am I mean.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhat were y' all doing?
Speaker BLike, what.
Speaker BWhat does that mean when you're in a rose society?
Speaker BI.
Speaker BThis is some very next level.
Speaker BI thought I knew everything about hoas in gardening and the architectural committee, but this I have no clue on.
Speaker BSo give us just a snippet of what it is to be in a rose garden group so I can go tell my grandma.
Speaker AI do have.
Speaker AI do have.
Speaker AOne of my favorite new jokes is that some people marry their mothers.
Speaker AI married my grandmother.
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BAnd it crushes everything.
Speaker AI love that joke.
Speaker ABut, I mean, it's just kind of like a club.
Speaker ALike, we do monthly meetings based on different topics, and we'll do at the Carter Center.
Speaker AWe maintain the rose garden there, and we'll go and prune and dig up or plant new roses and things like that.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's basically just like a club with old people.
Speaker AAnd then my wife and I.
Speaker AMy wife and me.
Speaker AYeah, it really is.
Speaker AAnd we.
Speaker ALast weekend, we went and toured one of the members who.
Speaker AShe's like an award.
Speaker AShe won Best in show.
Speaker AThis.
Speaker AIt really is like the movie Best in show that they did with dogs.
Speaker ALike, there could be a movie about this, and there should be, and there might be, and there might be down the road.
Speaker BThere's any investors, Kickstarter, but it is.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AShe had, like, 300 roses.
Speaker AIt was incredible.
Speaker BSay what Is it a competitive, like.
Speaker BLike, is it kind of like best in show competitive like that there, dude?
Speaker AVery like, they are it, dude.
Speaker AIt.
Speaker AYou could cut the tension with a knife at this because it is like, it's a show, but it's also a contest.
Speaker AThere's judges and they review the roses and things.
Speaker AAnd like.
Speaker AYeah, before the show, people are super tense, like, working on their roses and doing all these different things.
Speaker AAnd then like, after the show, while the judges are judging the roses, everyone's just drinking wine at like 11 in the morning or 10 in the morning.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo I did that all day and then basically went straight to the show after and then did two shows where you saw me on the second one, which I think.
Speaker AI think this is a cautionary tale for comics.
Speaker AYou know, I like.
Speaker AI like to be bad sometimes, you know, Miyoshi, I want to feel bad.
Speaker AI want to be a rebel.
Speaker AI wanna.
Speaker AI wanna go back to college.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AI want.
Speaker AI want that every minute of every day of my life.
Speaker AAnd I'm constantly battling that impulse just to eat and drink everything.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BYou gotta.
Speaker BYou got a bad boy streak in you that shows up every once in a while.
Speaker BI think I'm also a culprit because I like to egg upon because I want to see it, because we always have a good time.
Speaker AThat's what jb, one of the guys that runs that show, he wants me to do it.
Speaker AHe's like, I just want you to do a dirty set.
Speaker AI just want you to do one dirty set.
Speaker BYeah, I know.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BTalking about that for a while.
Speaker BHe's like, man, I want to see.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo bad.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo, like, I.
Speaker AI headlined their first show.
Speaker ATheir seven o' clock show went amazing.
Speaker ASold a bunch of merch.
Speaker AI was like, yes.
Speaker AYou know, comedy.
Speaker AI love it.
Speaker ASo then the second show was kind of.
Speaker AIt's like a crowd work show and there's like bucket where you could pull out topics.
Speaker ASo I was like kind of feeling my oats, as they say.
Speaker AAnd it's.
Speaker AThe show's at a brewery.
Speaker AJB runs the brewery.
Speaker AJB King and Ryan Skrilla, they have die laughing comedy.
Speaker AThey run a bunch of great shows.
Speaker AAnd I was like, I'm gonna have a beer.
Speaker ALike, I'm gonna.
Speaker ALet's be bad.
Speaker AYeah, we've been out.
Speaker AWe deserve it.
Speaker AWe just had a great show.
Speaker AWe just made some money.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker ASo I told jb, I was like, yo, can I get a beer?
Speaker AAnd he's like, oh, I got the perfect one.
Speaker AAnd it was like, one that was like 10.9%.
Speaker AAnd, you know, I.
Speaker ADespite how much I want to drink, I don't.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo I hadn't drank in a minute, dude.
Speaker AAnd I could feel it.
Speaker AWhen I was on stage doing that set, I said, I'm quitting comedy.
Speaker ASeveral times.
Speaker AI said, I hate this.
Speaker ALike, my timing was off.
Speaker ALike, the set was going well, but I was so in my head.
Speaker AAnd then I was like, they're laughing, but it's the beer getting the laugh and not me.
Speaker AIt's like.
Speaker AI mean, I wasn't drinking on stage, but I had.
Speaker AAnd I said on stage, I had half a beer, and I'm in the bag.
Speaker AAnd then I went back.
Speaker AIt was literally a quarter of the beer.
Speaker AIt wasn't even half of it.
Speaker BSo you had 0.2.
Speaker BYou didn't even have point.
Speaker BLike, 0.25 of the beer.
Speaker BThat's so hilarious.
Speaker AI was feeling it, dude.
Speaker ALike, and, like, my set went well, but I was in my head about it and the timing and just.
Speaker AI didn't.
Speaker AI didn't like it.
Speaker AI thought I was like, I'm just gonna be loosey goosey up there.
Speaker AAnd it just didn't.
Speaker AIt didn't feel.
Speaker AAnd I feel like it's a cautionary tale for comics that, especially starting out, I'll know a lot of comics will, like, drink before every show, which can get really expensive, especially when you get a dui.
Speaker ABut it could become a crutch.
Speaker AI've seen it become a crutch for people.
Speaker AOr smoking as well.
Speaker APeople get high before a show.
Speaker AIt's just, if you want this to be your job, you do need to treat it like a job.
Speaker AAnd that was a reminder Saturday of just like, oh, no, this is not my vibe.
Speaker ABut also, I can't.
Speaker BThe other.
Speaker BBut the other thing, though, is also, like, just from your perspective, I want to, like, just give you props.
Speaker BYou weren't getting paid for the second show.
Speaker BIt was just, like, you just.
Speaker AAnd that was the vibe of the show.
Speaker ALike, it was just like, drunk show to brewery.
Speaker ALike, yeah.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ANothing bad happened.
Speaker AIt just.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI forgot it in my.
Speaker AI felt it in myself.
Speaker AI was like, this is not.
Speaker AThis is not in alignment with who I am anymore, for sure.
Speaker BBut also think.
Speaker BI think it's.
Speaker BEvery once in a while, I think it's okay to, like, just take that chance.
Speaker BI know that sounds very counterintuitive to everything you just said, but I also think every once in a while, I hadn't Done, you know.
Speaker BOh, you've.
Speaker BYou've seen me.
Speaker BI really don't do crowd work.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut I'm actually really good at improv and so I tend to stay away from doing crowd work, mainly because I just enjoy having complete control of what's happening with stand up with my material.
Speaker BI know where these laughs are going to be.
Speaker AI know.
Speaker BI know where the pops are, I know where the laws are.
Speaker BSo I get very technical.
Speaker BSo I don't do a lot of, like, crowd work.
Speaker BSo when I do get to do crowd work, I feel very, very free and I'm like, oh, we're just having fun.
Speaker BThere's no expectations.
Speaker BSo they threw me up and I did like a quick five minutes and it was just a good time.
Speaker BAnd I need to remember to, like, kind of place that into my bigger set as well, of just feeling a bit more free.
Speaker BAnd that's a thing that I'm working on in the next couple of.
Speaker BJust like my next couple of sets is leave some room for some playfulness.
Speaker BEspecially in my set.
Speaker BIt was just a good reminder that.
Speaker BOf just like, oh, it's interactive.
Speaker BIt's okay to talk to the crowd.
Speaker BI know how to be in the moment.
Speaker BI know how to do this.
Speaker BI just don't do it very often.
Speaker BAnd so I think it's fun to at least, like, challenge yourself every once in a while when you get the opportunity.
Speaker BI.
Speaker BI mean, I know for sure they wouldn't have thrown me up if they thought it was going to be bad.
Speaker BAnd obviously it was not bad.
Speaker BLike, it was still.
Speaker BStill a hell of a night.
Speaker BGreat set, still good stuff all around.
Speaker BBut it was just like a reminder, like, oh, yeah, we can do different stuff even if we are married to the set, like I am.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd I'll get that question from comics a good bit about, like, if their material feels stale or they're kind of feel like they're in a creative rut or something, because sometimes, like, you'll.
Speaker AYou'll go on a month of like, oh, everything's amazing, and then six months of just, what am I doing?
Speaker ASo it's up and down all the time.
Speaker ASo that could be a fun way to shake it up is just remember to have fun.
Speaker AFun.
Speaker ARemember, this is supposed to be fun.
Speaker AAnd I did that before my set.
Speaker AThe first show I did there was.
Speaker AI set the intention.
Speaker AI was like, just have fun.
Speaker ALike we talked about last week, the set I did at your grad show.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat it was just fun and silly and I was like, I want to go in with that intention again.
Speaker ASo before the show, I was like literally saying out loud, I was like, let's just have fun.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker ALet's just be silly and just have fun.
Speaker AAnd the set went really well and I did to like, like similar, like a lot of riffing.
Speaker ABut on, like not ruining the show, like they were riffing that was working.
Speaker AAnd then going in the material and kind of just being a little more silly, which is what I mentioned last week.
Speaker AI want to be more intentional about doing so.
Speaker AAnd then I had a quarter of a beer and then ruined all.
Speaker AI don't know if I told you.
Speaker AI told one comic after, I was like, I should have just gone out on a high.
Speaker AShe just gone home.
Speaker BYou told me.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, because I gave you the look.
Speaker BI was like, george, you look sad.
Speaker BWhat happened?
Speaker BI was like, everyone's having a good time.
Speaker BI walked into the.
Speaker BI walked into the place.
Speaker BI got there like super late, but I came to watch a friend of mine.
Speaker AI think you just missed me.
Speaker AI think I just gotten off.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, you said you just got off.
Speaker BAnd I came to watch a friend, my buddy, Jim Gallagher from California, who's.
Speaker AOh yeah, I saw him there.
Speaker BYeah, Freaking crush dude.
Speaker BAbsolutely murdered that place.
Speaker BAnd then came to watch him.
Speaker BAnd then I saw you.
Speaker BI was like, what happened?
Speaker BI was like, it looked like something.
Speaker BSomebody just like stole your puppy or something.
Speaker BYou were not happy about what just went down.
Speaker AI feel like I let myself down.
Speaker AI was like, I shouldn't have drank.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AI mean, it was literally all in my head.
Speaker AIt was all self inflicted.
Speaker AThe set went well.
Speaker ANo one was like, yo, like, it was all.
Speaker AEverything went fine and just for myself.
Speaker AYeah, but like you said, every now and then you just.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AGotta remind myself I, I ain't like that.
Speaker BYeah, but also, you ain't new to this though.
Speaker AFacts.
Speaker AYeah, facts.
Speaker AWe grew to this.
Speaker BThat's funny.
Speaker BYou're like, I'm not like that anymore.
Speaker BI can't drink a quarter of a beer.
Speaker AWell, it was 10.9%, but it was ridicul, ridiculous.
Speaker BSo basically the quarter that you drank was 2%.
Speaker BThat's what you're saying, that 2% really knocked you out?
Speaker BIs that what you're saying?
Speaker AI guess so.
Speaker ANot when you put it like that.
Speaker AEmpty stomach, though.
Speaker AIt was on empty stomach.
Speaker BAnd you know, you've been around roses all day.
Speaker BIt was probably just something.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BIn the air.
Speaker BIt was the fumes.
Speaker BIt was whatever comes out of roses, all that stuff.
Speaker BIt was, you know, it was all up in the body.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo good.
Speaker AYeah, that was fun.
Speaker ABut it was.
Speaker AIt was still.
Speaker AIt was still a lot of fun and a good, great show.
Speaker AThey run great shows there, and they do several good shows around the city, so it was very cool.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut I got a Met.
Speaker ALisa Remmer messaged me and said she met you, which was funny.
Speaker AI love when people are, like, from the hot breath averse talk about meeting you, because they're always ex.
Speaker AThey're always, like, excited and, like, say that you're awesome.
Speaker BOh, appreciate it, man.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BMet her at the Punchline.
Speaker BI went to go watch some other friends do comedy as well there this weekend, and, yeah, it was a.
Speaker BIt was a fun time.
Speaker BYeah, we had an adventure while we were at the Punchline as someone literally passed out while we were all having, like, dinner after the show.
Speaker AOne of the comics.
Speaker AYeah, this is for World Series of Comedy.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI wanted.
Speaker AI wanted to make it.
Speaker AI literally.
Speaker AI had a few people message me, and I was planning to go Saturday, but after all that, like, being up since 5 and then at that show till, like, 10, it was just like, I can't make it down there.
Speaker BNo, no, it was.
Speaker BIt was fine.
Speaker BIt was fine.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd the person's fine.
Speaker BAnd there's nothing.
Speaker AThe person is fine.
Speaker AOkay, good.
Speaker BThat's fine.
Speaker BIt was just.
Speaker BIt was just an adventure.
Speaker BLike, you know, you.
Speaker BWhen you go out at night and go hang out with friends, you don't expect, like, that stuff to happen or, like, be in the middle of it.
Speaker BBut, yeah, it happened.
Speaker BAnd, yeah, it's called the ambulance.
Speaker ALike, did it get serious?
Speaker BYeah, there was an ambulance involved.
Speaker AMy.
Speaker BYep, yep.
Speaker AWhoa.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AThey're okay, though.
Speaker BThey're okay.
Speaker BThey are fine.
Speaker AHoly cow.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AWhat's in that diner?
Speaker AFood.
Speaker BInteresting.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker AThat usually only happens when you get off stage, but someone calls an ambulance.
Speaker ABut I'm glad you're okay.
Speaker AI'm glad.
Speaker AOh, my gosh.
Speaker BWell played, sir.
Speaker BI think it's funny that we roast each other like this, but every time I ask you to do a roast, you're like, nah.
Speaker BAnd I think it's because you don't want to go back to your old ways.
Speaker AIt's true.
Speaker AIt's true.
Speaker AI mean, I used to be.
Speaker AI roast.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, I did several contests and stuff like that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI'm just not about that.
Speaker ALike, I would do it for money.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut it would have to be work.
Speaker ALike, because when I do a roast, like, I really prepare.
Speaker ALike, I mean, I go deep on it.
Speaker ASo I just know how much work it is to do a roast the right way.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo it's.
Speaker AI kind of.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI got out of my system when I did that roast battle with Dulce that they could.
Speaker AThey cut.
Speaker AThey cut us out of the show.
Speaker ABut it was like.
Speaker AThat was kind of like the peak of my roasting, where I was like, oh, I'm gonna be on Comedy Central.
Speaker AI was like, oh, never mind.
Speaker AOkay, well, that was cool.
Speaker AIt's fine.
Speaker ASo that was kind of.
Speaker AAfter that, I was like, I think I got out of my system.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat's funny, because I had.
Speaker AI had someone literally, like, message me a week or two ago about, he's doing, like, a fundraiser for this disease he has.
Speaker AHe wanted me to come roast him, and I was just like, what?
Speaker BYou know.
Speaker AJust like, are you insane?
Speaker AThat sounds like the worst setup ever.
Speaker BI would so do that.
Speaker BI would so do that.
Speaker BYeah, I would definitely do that gig.
Speaker BI think it's because there's a person in our class who has.
Speaker BIn my comedy class that has cancer.
Speaker BAnd one of the classes, I do this thing where everyone gets on stage, and we sort of just have a gentleman's agreement that we're going to roast each other.
Speaker BSo, you know, everything that someone could potentially say about you and use it either in your own comedy or not.
Speaker BSo that's one of the weeks in my class where everybody just gets roasted and you tell people information about you, and then they use it as part of, like, their own set.
Speaker BAnd, dude, we went in on this guy, and he loved every single minute of it.
Speaker BBut at the same time, he also used it as part of his, like, material.
Speaker BSo you have to do it in the safe space, honestly.
Speaker BBut, man, we had a very good time.
Speaker BBut he was very into it and was, like, completely okay with it.
Speaker BNot everybody's okay with it.
Speaker BI think that's one of those things that you have to request it for yourself.
Speaker BLike, I think Jeff, the roastmaster, he never lets somebody else say, oh, roast this person.
Speaker BYou have to volunteer to be roasted yourself.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhoa.
Speaker AInteresting.
Speaker AThat's a fun exercise.
Speaker BOh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BBecause then you, like, it's.
Speaker BIt's fun to see different perspectives, especially comedy perspectives, of just what people think when they first see you on stage.
Speaker BLike, and just a bunch of you look like.
Speaker BYou know, you sound like your hair gives off these kinds of things.
Speaker BLike, your face looks like this Like, I feel like, you know, you could have arrested me a month ago.
Speaker BLike, it's just things of.
Speaker BJust whatever you can think of and you just go.
Speaker BAnd then obviously we record it and then you can use it and add tags to it.
Speaker BBut it's meant to be also just meant to help you with any of your self deprecating humor as well.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AInteresting.
Speaker AThat's a fun exercise.
Speaker BYeah, that's a good one.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut you got to do it in the safe space, of course.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's all got to be in context.
Speaker AYeah, for sure.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ARoasting's still huge.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker AI know a lot of people still do it a lot.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BPersonal preference, you know, I mean, Atlanta roast scene is getting bigger now as well, so I've done one.
Speaker BI'm trying to do some more.
Speaker BIt's a skill.
Speaker AIt's a good writing exercise.
Speaker BI want to just add it to the bag of, like, the repertoire of things that I can bring out when needed.
Speaker BI'm really not a roaster.
Speaker BI really don't roast people a lot.
Speaker BBut if I have time.
Speaker AThe least intimidating laugh ever.
Speaker AIf I have time.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BDon't let me look at your LinkedIn, baby, because it's gonna be a wrap.
Speaker BLet me find.
Speaker BYour credit score is gonna be over.
Speaker AOh, and I had a.
Speaker AI had a question.
Speaker ASomeone in the this month's contest had asked me a question I wanted to get to.
Speaker AOh, and I got to work with Rafi Bastos this weekend too, which was very cool.
Speaker BHow was that?
Speaker AHe.
Speaker BInternational superstar, big Instagram follower.
Speaker AIt was incredible.
Speaker AYeah, he was.
Speaker AI mean, it's.
Speaker AHe's like a fan of the podcast he likes.
Speaker BAwesome.
Speaker AHe messaged me a few years ago and was saying how much he enjoyed the podcast and would love to do it.
Speaker AAnd I was like, yeah, whenever you're in Atlanta.
Speaker ABecause I don't.
Speaker AI don't really want to do them on Zoom anymore.
Speaker ALike, before the pandemic, I never did one on Zoom.
Speaker AIt was always in person.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo now that we're back at the real world, I'm not doing them on Zoom anymore.
Speaker AIt's just different.
Speaker AIt's not.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo, yeah, whenever you're in Atlanta.
Speaker ASo he was in Atlanta, like we did.
Speaker AWe weren't able to make it happen.
Speaker AThe last time he was in Atlanta, I was out of town or something.
Speaker ABut he came back this time and I got to open his show and also do the POD after, which was super dope.
Speaker ASo it was just cool that it's Kind of like when Earthquake is like, I love what y' all are doing.
Speaker AIt's just cool to hear comics of that level just being like, yeah, keep going.
Speaker AThis is good.
Speaker ASo the.
Speaker AThe shows were dope.
Speaker AThe interview was dope.
Speaker AThey cut us off.
Speaker AApparently, the lady that working there wanted to go home, so they cut us off at, like, 30 minutes.
Speaker BSo we didn't even really get into it.
Speaker AYeah, get into, like, the.
Speaker AHe loves, like, the nerdy side of the show.
Speaker ASo I definitely want to get into that.
Speaker ABut I also wanted to get more context on just.
Speaker AThis guy was like the John Stewart of Brazil and then moved to America and is now, like, blowing up again.
Speaker ASo I was like, this guy knows something about how to become famous, you know?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo I was trying to get into that side of stuff first.
Speaker AAnd not as much the nerdy.
Speaker AAnd then she was.
Speaker AShe didn't say anything.
Speaker AShe just stood over my shoulder, and Gus Horn was there, hot breath there.
Speaker ASo then, like, I felt her presence, but I wasn't looking.
Speaker AI was just talking with Rafi, and I kind of felt her walk away.
Speaker AAnd then I was like.
Speaker ALooked at Gus, and I was like, is she trying to kick us out?
Speaker AAnd he was like, yeah.
Speaker AWhich Rafi was not thrilled about.
Speaker AHe was like, I just made them all this money.
Speaker AAnd then, like, he basically.
Speaker AThe show was probably 90% full.
Speaker AAnd then Saturday, he did sell out.
Speaker ASo it's kind of like, yo, you'll be here.
Speaker AIt reminds me, I heard a Ralphie May story where he was drinking at a comedy club, and it was getting, like, late, and the manager asked him.
Speaker AHe's like, I gotta go home.
Speaker AAnd he was like, I just sold out seven shows.
Speaker AHe's like, I'll stay here all night.
Speaker AAnd he ended up staying there, like, all night just to keep the manager there, just because he's like, I just made you, like, yeah, I just made your nut for, like, six months, so I'm gonna stay here as late as I want.
Speaker ASo it was.
Speaker AYeah, I think just around 2, but it was good.
Speaker BThat's hilarious.
Speaker BLiterally just had a situation.
Speaker BI think she was at a spot in Detroit, and after she does, like, meet and greets or something like that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd the person was just like, oh, we don't do meet and greet.
Speaker BAnd I think part of it is because that place has to pay people, like, overtime.
Speaker BBut it's like, we just.
Speaker BTo your point, we just made you all this money.
Speaker BYeah, go ahead and pay the overtime.
Speaker BLike, we just took care of you for A very long time.
Speaker BLike chill out with like the logistics of what you have to do and just pay your people.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou might not enjoy it, but pay them.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker AThis venue also will take a cut of your merch.
Speaker ALike it's.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AI mean it's a beautiful place and they have a lot of nice shows there.
Speaker ABut that is kind of like.
Speaker AI mean, I had a friend there selling koozies and they're like, you're gonna take 20 of my 140 merch sale of koozies.
Speaker AI was like, okay, cool.
Speaker ABut whatever.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut yeah, super nice venue and the show was great.
Speaker AI'm like, I'm like cleaning it up now.
Speaker AI was like, it was totally fine.
Speaker ABesides that they kicked us out early.
Speaker BWork there anytime, you guys.
Speaker AYeah, he was super dope and super nice and yeah, just very complimentary of the show.
Speaker ASo that was, that was very cool.
Speaker AAnd I'll post that interview on the Patreon so people can see it.
Speaker BAwesome, dude.
Speaker BSweet, man.
Speaker ABut I had a question.
Speaker AThis is anonymous.
Speaker AThis was anonymous.
Speaker AThey want to make sure I kept it anonymous.
Speaker BI love anonymous.
Speaker AIt was kind of a two parter.
Speaker AThey said on the next podcast, can you, Yoshi, talk about how you feel about comedians trying to gain followers by commenting on other famous comedians posts?
Speaker AAnd they said, I also forgot to tell you, Dusty Slay said he takes notes on stage on New material Mondays at Zany's.
Speaker AI guess because I say don't take notes on stage.
Speaker ABut it's not, it's just, it's not a law.
Speaker AIt's a personal preference for me not to have notes on stage.
Speaker AAnd I feel like younger comics, the notes can become a crutch for sure and break some sort of discomfort they have.
Speaker AAnd I think younger comics can learn from persevering through resistance.
Speaker ALike, oh, you forgot your joke on stage.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWhat now you have to survive in this moment.
Speaker AI think that's more valuable than this joke you're not going to be doing in three months.
Speaker BOh.
Speaker ALearning how to be more present and confident on stage through that discomfort.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AConfidence is the name of the game in comedy.
Speaker AAnd stage is where you gain that confidence.
Speaker ABut I see, Yeah, I mean, comics have shot specials with notes like, I'm not saying it's a law, but personally preference.
Speaker AI don't like notes on stage.
Speaker AI know you've said the opposite and that's fine.
Speaker ABut I love she.
Speaker AShe.
Speaker AThey.
Speaker ASorry, I don't want to.
Speaker AShe.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AI don't want to say who it Was.
Speaker AYeah, but I love.
Speaker AThey threw that in there, by the way, Dusty Slay uses notes.
Speaker ACheck yourself, Joel.
Speaker ABut, yeah, it's new material Monday, so everyone's trying new stuff.
Speaker BOh, for sure.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAnd also more geared at young comics, is what I was saying.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BI mean, and I get, like.
Speaker BYour point is very valid.
Speaker BLike, it's.
Speaker BIt's good just to, like, challenge yourself when you kind of don't know your material, to figure out what to do in that situation, because that is real life.
Speaker BYou're going to get to a spot where you're performing, and then even though you memorize your entire set and you know what you're going to say, you may just forget or you get a laugh somewhere that you're not expecting it and don't know what to do.
Speaker BSo it's good just to know what to do in that moment, in that situation, which is to your point.
Speaker BWhy not taking notes on stage helps you out, because then you're in the moment versus having the crutch of trying to go back and trying to follow.
Speaker BOh, what am I.
Speaker BWhere am I supposed to go next in my set?
Speaker BOr where.
Speaker BWhat am I supposed to do next?
Speaker BSo it's very, very valid.
Speaker BBut, you know, Dusty Slay can do whatever he wants.
Speaker BThat's the other thing I think we have to also remember sometimes.
Speaker BI think when comedians, I forget who said it, but it was very good advice about how you shouldn't be trying to do what, like, the greats are doing.
Speaker BYou need to do the thing that the person above you is doing.
Speaker BSo if you're an open micr, you need to try to do the stuff that people who are showcasing are doing.
Speaker BIf you're a showcase person, you need to do the things that people who are featuring are doing.
Speaker BAnd if you're featuring, you need to do the things that headliners are doing.
Speaker BAnd if you're a headliner, you need to do the things that people who are doing stadiums are doing.
Speaker BLike, that's the level versus trying to do the stuff that Chappelle, you know, Bill Burr, Kevin Hart, like, we are, y' all, we're.
Speaker BThe levels are different, right?
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BGap in the things that they are thinking about and the things that they are walking through.
Speaker BSo Dusty Slay is a bonafide.
Speaker BHe's starting to do like, he's doing.
Speaker ATheaters, selling out, big theaters now Netflix specials, like on.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BI mean, George Wallace, who is one of the most, like, absolutely most prolific writers, takes notes on stage, when he's trying out material, a huge note, it's like a.
Speaker BIt's like a 90s yellow pad that has like.
Speaker BAnd when you like when he rip moves the next.
Speaker BIt's a huge movement of like this.
Speaker BIt's a.
Speaker BIt's a long pad.
Speaker BIt's not even a regular eight and a half.
Speaker BIt's like a scroll.
Speaker BIt's a scroll dude of just notes.
Speaker BAnd he crushes with that stuff because he's just a prolific writer and he's just like writing and then trying stuff out.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo I think when you get to that stage, you get to break the rules a little bit.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker AOf course.
Speaker AI was just thinking newer comics, it could be a crutch more than like.
Speaker BThe initial question was what was the first part of the question?
Speaker AOkay, yeah, that had nothing to do with her question.
Speaker AShe just.
Speaker AOr they, he, they.
Speaker AOh, just wanted to slide that in there.
Speaker AOh, by the way, Dusty Slay uses notes.
Speaker ABut the question was about how do we feel about comedians trying to gain followers by commenting on famous comedians posts.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BGet it.
Speaker BHow you live.
Speaker BLike it doesn't matter.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter.
Speaker BThere's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker BI mean, I think this is one of those things that it's very obvious that the algorithm is telling us that that's an okay thing to do.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWhich is just that response.
Speaker BBut response videos have always been a thing.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BAnd comedian clips are huge right now.
Speaker BComedy is a huge algorithmic success for all of social media.
Speaker BComedy clips, crowd work clips.
Speaker BProbably more comedy clips now than crowd work used to be.
Speaker BIt's not as big right now unless you're like some people like a Matt Rife who still does the crowd clips.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker ABut even they were his.
Speaker AHis guy was saying that they don't hit like they used to.
Speaker ALike the algorithm isn't prioritizing that as much as it used to back when they were first starting.
Speaker AHe said the view.
Speaker AI mean they're doing fine, of course.
Speaker ABut yeah, he said the views are down on that style of content now.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BSo there's a different style of content, of just funny, relatable content stuff.
Speaker BAnd people like reactions at the end of the day.
Speaker BLike reactions have always been a thing.
Speaker BI mean if you think about YouTube and the amount of YouTube videos of people reacting to music videos, people reacting to news, people reacting to stuff that people doing just commentary on that stuff, it almost feels like.
Speaker BIt's just.
Speaker BIt's almost like a in person podcast where you're Just commenting on things that you find interesting.
Speaker BThere's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker BI don't have any issues with it.
Speaker BI think though, the key is if you're doing it for the sake of that's what you think is going to hit from a viral perspective, then that feels like you're not doing it for the right reasons.
Speaker BIf you're doing it because like you're really interested in it, then for sure go ahead and do that.
Speaker BBut if you're like, oh, I want to do this just so I can try to pop on Instagram, then that just feels very inauthentic and you know, then you have to ask yourself, what are you actually doing it for?
Speaker BLike.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAs long as you're not trolling.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ATrying to get off on some sort of controversy or whatnot.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALike why are you doing it?
Speaker ABasically.
Speaker AYeah, that's a great question to ask yourself before you even do try something like that.
Speaker ABut that's not even something.
Speaker AI don't, I guess I don't notice it, but I guess comics are doing that.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker ABut I don't.
Speaker AYeah, I don't have an issue with this.
Speaker BThere's a lot of, lot of clips of rotated Joe Rogan, Theo von Bobby Lee and a couple of just the big podcast of just people reacting to those clips of just responding to it as if though they're just making commentary.
Speaker BI mean, there's an entire guy on YouTube that just finds controversy in what's happening in the joke ecosystem, I mean the comedy ecosystem, and just talks about the beefs between comics or beefs in scenes, all this other stuff.
Speaker BIt's like that's really what you want to do.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker BBut is that going to.
Speaker BI mean, I think that's the other thing.
Speaker BIs someone going to come and see you at a show for that?
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BSure, you can do it online in YouTube, but will someone pay money for that commentary?
Speaker BAnd I think that's the difference is like at the end of the day we're still a business where you make the majority of your money by people coming to see you.
Speaker BLive performances is where your bread really is made.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BLike Theo Vaughn.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BHe's got this huge podcast, but he tours like he sells out stadiums.
Speaker BLike he's like still doing big time shows.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BAndrew Schultz is very popular, but he sells out Madison Square Garden.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BThe podcast helps, but he's still doing tons of weekends.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd it's.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo as long as you're commenting on these posts from.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker APlace.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAsk yourself why you're doing it basically.
Speaker AAnd I guess it could work.
Speaker AGaining followers from commenting on a post is an interesting strategy.
Speaker BConsidered thought about it.
Speaker ABut I have nothing.
Speaker AAs long as there's no mal intent.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI don't, I don't have issues with it.
Speaker AClearly this person probably has a strong opinion and maybe is annoyed by this and is like, what do you guys think of this?
Speaker ABecause it's such a specific question.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut yeah, as long as you're not hurting anybody.
Speaker AI don't, I don't have issues with it.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat's funny.
Speaker AI just love how specific the question is.
Speaker AI feel like they posted this after seeing a lot of it and being frustrated.
Speaker ALike, what are we doing here?
Speaker AOh, and by the way, dusty slow.
Speaker BThat's one of those things where you like, I.
Speaker BI do this where I don't like something online.
Speaker BSo I just keep watching that thing that I don't enjoy.
Speaker BAnd then the algorithm thinks I really enjoy this because I keep watching.
Speaker BAnd then you're like, I hate this.
Speaker BAnd then you're angry and you're like, why are people doing this?
Speaker BAnd so, yeah, I think they got to that point where they're just hate watching pretty much.
Speaker AJoe.
Speaker AJoe Mackey had this hilarious joke when I worked with him.
Speaker AI don't want like give away the whole bit, but it was basically like, he's friends with Mato Lane.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWho's like a very well known comedian who's gay.
Speaker AAnd he like posts pictures and Speedos a lot and stuff.
Speaker ASo he had this joke about how the algorithm, he liked a photo of mate Mateo as a friend, but he's like, but the algorithm thought that's what I like now.
Speaker ASo he was served up all this different.
Speaker AIt's a whole bit I don't want to like give away, but it was just so funny.
Speaker AThat reminded me of that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut that's true though.
Speaker BLike, even if you're like, oh yeah, I support this.
Speaker BAnd then the algorithm's like, oh, you like a lot of this?
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BOh my God.
Speaker BI'm.
Speaker BI'm currently going through.
Speaker BI'm trying to replace it.
Speaker BI've been watching like just nature videos of lions, like in the wild, like hunting animals.
Speaker AOh my God.
Speaker BLiterally thinks that that's what like I enjoy.
Speaker BLike, I liked one video.
Speaker BOne video.
Speaker BAnd then all of a sudden it just became a thing now.
Speaker AI was like, why don't you do that with my comedy clips, y' all Serve that up to other people, please.
Speaker AWhat are we doing here?
Speaker BYeah, I'm hunting these jokes, somebody.
Speaker AAll right, well, let's.
Speaker ALet's land the plane.
Speaker AI've got.
Speaker AI've got family coming over.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AThe baby.
Speaker ABut I'm glad we snuck that.
Speaker AWe got up early for this, y' all.
Speaker AWe want to make sure we still got it in.
Speaker BI just dropped off the kids and came straight.
Speaker BYep, yep, yep.
Speaker ASo we appreciate all support.
Speaker AThanks for asking questions.
Speaker AAnd it's always great to see all out in the shows and stuff, so feel free to keep hitting us up, join our Facebook group.
Speaker AThere's a lot of other good discussions going on in there.
Speaker AHot breath.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThose of you watching on Patreon Yoshi is wearing the OG Hot breath shirt with the original tagline caffeinate your ears, which means nothing.
Speaker BStart.
Speaker BThis was the start, baby.
Speaker APurple and white was the color scheme.
Speaker ACaffeinate your ears literally says nothing about the show, but it says everything at the same time.
Speaker ABut, yeah, if you guys want to book us for stuff, we're both available for booking on shows and stuff as well, so hit us up on social media.
Speaker BYeah, we do clean, we do dirty.
Speaker BWe do it all.
Speaker BMaybe Joel won't do dirty.
Speaker BHe might have to.
Speaker BHe might have to have, like, a.
Speaker ABeer in my system.
Speaker BWe'll see a little alky in the system.
Speaker BDirty stuff.
Speaker ASo, yeah, we are available for bookings.
Speaker AFeel free to hit us up about that, and we'll see you all next week.
Speaker BBye.
Speaker BBye.