Hey, I'm Bruce Weinstein, and this is a podcast cooking with Bruce and Mark.
Speaker:And I'm Mark Skarbrough.
Speaker:And together with Bruce, we have written three dozen now
Speaker:going on to the 37th cookbook.
Speaker:It is in editorial production right now.
Speaker:It won't be out until 2025, so we have a lot of time to talk about that.
Speaker:But in the meantime, this is our podcast about food and cooking,
Speaker:which are the passions in our life.
Speaker:Minus . knitting and Dante.
Speaker:But those are other stories.
Speaker:So this is Dante knit.
Speaker:No, Dante never knitted.
Speaker:That's that made my brain hurt when you said that.
Speaker:Um, this podcast about food and cooking in which we are not making our brains
Speaker:hurt, but we are talking about our passions and we're going to talk about
Speaker:a one minute cooking tip for your grill.
Speaker:We have got a recipe.
Speaker:We're in the kitchen on this episode of the podcast, making a barbecue short
Speaker:rib recipe And we'll tell you what's making us happy in food this week.
Speaker:So let's get started.
Speaker:Our one minute cooking tip.
Speaker:If you're cooking outdoors, clean your grill.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Every time.
Speaker:In fact, whenever you use it, would you cook in a dirty saute pan?
Speaker:Would you put a roast beef in a dirty roasting pan?
Speaker:Oh, it's a big TikTok thing right now is to show nasty pans full of
Speaker:things that are dirty, and then you're making a fried egg in them.
Speaker:It's a whole thing.
Speaker:You shouldn't be putting.
Speaker:Uh, hamburger on a filthy grill.
Speaker:Well, no.
Speaker:It's not going to taste good.
Speaker:And the way you do it is There's other problems besides taste, but go on.
Speaker:Leave your grill on high and covered for a few minutes after you're
Speaker:done cooking each and every time.
Speaker:It will burn off the remnants and then you can use a metal Yeah, if you
Speaker:haven't bought a metal grill brush, it's high time you do.
Speaker:It allows you to scrape off what the high heat burns onto the grate.
Speaker:It's really important for cleaning your grates.
Speaker:Make sure you clean your grill every time.
Speaker:Okay, before we get to that, to the kitchen and making barbecued short
Speaker:ribs, which also involve a grill.
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Speaker:bits as well about our lives.
Speaker:So let's get on to the kitchen and making barbecue short ribs.
Speaker:ever been to a Korean barbecue restaurant?
Speaker:You've probably had these.
Speaker:They're called Galbi there.
Speaker:And these are, as Mark said, barbecue short ribs, but not your
Speaker:kind of short ribs you're used to.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And, uh, don't write in about Bruce's Korean accent because even I, even
Speaker:I heard that as horrible, but yes, sometimes these are a kind of short rib
Speaker:that are served in Korean restaurants.
Speaker:So what do we got here on the counter?
Speaker:Three pounds
Speaker:of flanken style short ribs.
Speaker:Basically, flanken style means instead of the big, fat, four inch, one bone
Speaker:short ribs you're used to, the butcher cuts across the whole plate of four ribs,
Speaker:and you get these thin slices, about a quarter inch, of meat and fat and bone.
Speaker:And
Speaker:your grandmother called these flanken.
Speaker:We, the rest of the world, called these cross cut short, beef short ribs.
Speaker:We don't call them flanken.
Speaker:Your grandmother made soup, and what did she make?
Speaker:Did she make vegetable soup?
Speaker:Oh, no, she
Speaker:put them in, she put them in simis.
Speaker:So it was with roasted potatoes and carrots and prunes and flunkin.
Speaker:And where can you get them?
Speaker:Well, we're lucky.
Speaker:We found them at Costco.
Speaker:We do.
Speaker:But a lot of Asian markets have them.
Speaker:And you can also then go to a kosher butcher.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:Because they always got them.
Speaker:I'll wait.
Speaker:Okay, great.
Speaker:I live in Flatbush?
Speaker:Yeah, no.
Speaker:Okay, I don't live in Flatbush.
Speaker:Um, I live in Tulsa.
Speaker:And so I'm going to go to a kosher Muncie, New York?
Speaker:Okay, there are kosher butchers in Muncie, New York.
Speaker:But again But they're not going to let you in.
Speaker:And Tulsa.
Speaker:I'm gonna go to the kosher, but maybe there is.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Write in and tell us if there's a kosher butcher shop in
Speaker:Tulsa, but I kind of doubt it.
Speaker:Um, uh, since I grew up partly in Oklahoma City, I kind of really doubt it.
Speaker:But, uh, okay, this is another matter.
Speaker:Now, what we're going to do is we're going to make a really simple, uh,
Speaker:sweet and spicy marinade, and we're going to do this really easily.
Speaker:We're going to make this marinade in a NutriBullet.
Speaker:So here's what's going in it.
Speaker:We're going to start with a medium yellow onion that has been peeled.
Speaker:You don't have to be super careful here, but you want to cut it
Speaker:into about one inch pieces, about 200 grams or seven ounce onion.
Speaker:We have one inch pieces.
Speaker:Asian pear, and those are easy to find in most supermarkets.
Speaker:If you can't find it, then use a regular pear, but you want it to be
Speaker:really crisp, not soft, and I'm not gushy and juicy, and I'm peeling it
Speaker:because I don't want the peel in this.
Speaker:And then we're going to cut it into one inch pieces.
Speaker:I am going to cut the seeds out because I don't want them to go in a Nutribullet.
Speaker:This, this, uh, this pair is about six ounces or 170 grams.
Speaker:And let me just also say that we're using a Nutribullet, but you don't have
Speaker:to have a Nutribullet to make this.
Speaker:You can make this in a Vitamix.
Speaker:You can make this in any turbo blender, a Blendtec, a Vitamix,
Speaker:any of those really powerful ones.
Speaker:And you can even do this in a food processor, but you're gonna have to
Speaker:stop the processor repeatedly and scrape down the sides of the canister.
Speaker:The insides of the canister.
Speaker:Because we've had people write in and tell us that they scraped
Speaker:down the outside of the can.
Speaker:Nothing happened.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Anyway, you scrape down the inside of the can.
Speaker:I just can't deal with it.
Speaker:Um, it's like that woman on Tic Tac.
Speaker:There's a woman going around Tic Tac right now who has really bad viral videos and
Speaker:she's claiming that water is not hydrating because there's no hydrogen in it.
Speaker:And I'm like, I just can't even, I can't even deal with you.
Speaker:I mean, did you flunk fourth grade that you don't know that water has hydrogen?
Speaker:So, and hydrating and hydrogen are different things.
Speaker:Anyway.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:So scrape down the inside of your food processor and then we're going to add five
Speaker:peeled garlic.
Speaker:You could buy them peeled in a jar.
Speaker:make your life easier and ginger.
Speaker:I've got a one inch piece of fresh ginger and I'm just chopping
Speaker:it into smaller pieces to make sure that the blender purees.
Speaker:So, and
Speaker:then in addition to that, I'm putting in a cop or 240 milliliters of soy sauce.
Speaker:Just use regular soy sauce.
Speaker:You can use low sodium, but we're talking pretty standard.
Speaker:So he says here, you don't have to get fancy because, um, this look at how many,
Speaker:Things are going together with this and
Speaker:especially because we're watering it down right with half a cup or 120
Speaker:ml of water and then sweetening it up with a quarter cup or 55 grams of
Speaker:packed light brown sugar you can use dark if you want adds a little more
Speaker:flavor I like the light because then you really taste the ginger and then
Speaker:two tablespoons or 30 milliliters of Murine that is a sweetened rice
Speaker:wine If you don't want to use murine and don't want to buy it You can use
Speaker:unsweetened apple juice in its place and a tablespoon of fresh black pepper.
Speaker:That's a lot.
Speaker:That's a lot.
Speaker:So if you're grinding it, grind a long
Speaker:time.
Speaker:Okay, so we're ready.
Speaker:So all of these things are in the Nutribullet.
Speaker:I am going to put it on the machine and make a puree out of this.
Speaker:We don't get paid by Nutribullet, but I should tell you that
Speaker:it is an amazing tool.
Speaker:I actually got a Nutribullet because I saw a lot of, I follow a ton, you
Speaker:probably know this, of UK vegan chefs.
Speaker:I'm not vegan, but when I cook, I'm the writer, Bruce is the chef.
Speaker:And when I cook more and more, I tend to cook vegan and I follow all these
Speaker:UK vegan chefs and they are amazing.
Speaker:All are just crazed for their Nutribullets.
Speaker:So eventually I was like, Hey, I have to be a cool kid.
Speaker:I have to get a Nutribullet.
Speaker:So I got one.
Speaker:And I
Speaker:love it.
Speaker:They are amazing because everything is contained in it.
Speaker:And it's the mess is very
Speaker:low.
Speaker:It is.
Speaker:So I'm going to pour this mixture now over the ribs, which
Speaker:I have put into a Ziploc bag.
Speaker:I should just note that this is a
Speaker:big Ziploc bag.
Speaker:It's the gallon size.
Speaker:It is holding all three.
Speaker:pounds of these ribs.
Speaker:And this way I could seal it up.
Speaker:I could mush it around.
Speaker:I could massage these ribs, make sure that that marinade
Speaker:is getting all over everything.
Speaker:I am still going to put this bag in a bowl because Ziploc
Speaker:bags have been known to leak.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So rather than put that in the refrigerator, make a
Speaker:mess, it goes into a bowl.
Speaker:Now it goes in to the refrigerator and it is going to marinate for at least
Speaker:two hours or do it in the morning and you can have it go all day.
Speaker:I'm going to come back in two hours and we're going to grill these up.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:We've come back and we are outside now we're out on our back deck
Speaker:and you can probably hear that there's birds all around us.
Speaker:We live deep in the new England mountains in the woods, uh, deep to say the least.
Speaker:It's a long way, even to a gas station from our house.
Speaker:What like 15 minutes from the gas station and a long way to a
Speaker:decent supermarket from our house.
Speaker:Anyway, we've got the gas grill going.
Speaker:You can do this over charcoal.
Speaker:You don't have to use gas.
Speaker:Gas is easy.
Speaker:And so we're being easy here and using a gas grill.
Speaker:Sometimes Bruce will break out the charcoal grill.
Speaker:It just depends.
Speaker:It does depend on my mood.
Speaker:It depends on how much the meat costs.
Speaker:But the most important thing here is to
Speaker:get the grill
Speaker:hot.
Speaker:I turn all the burners on and I cover the grill lid while it heats up.
Speaker:650 degrees, which is really, really hot.
Speaker:And I'm going to put.
Speaker:these ribs on the grill and you hear that sizzle and that is absolutely
Speaker:what you want and there is some fat in this so they are going to flame up
Speaker:so you want to cook it closed you get less Flame happening less so right
Speaker:over the heat.
Speaker:In other words, as they say in grilling, direct, direct heat, in other words, not
Speaker:to the side of the heat, but right over.
Speaker:Even if you've built a cold bed and a charcoal grill, and these
Speaker:are gonna go about three to four minutes aside, you can turn them.
Speaker:It sometimes helps if there's a little sugar here and it can stick a little bit,
Speaker:not much, but it can stick usually by the time it's done, the sticking doesn't
Speaker:matter anymore, but if it sticks, just use a spatula to get underneath them.
Speaker:Preferably a silicon spatula to get underneath them.
Speaker:So we're gonna let these go and then flip them and then come back
Speaker:to taste them when they're done.
Speaker:We're back inside now and we have cooked these, as I said,
Speaker:three to four minutes a side.
Speaker:What you want them is nice and charred.
Speaker:I know you think short ribs have to go for forever in a braise, but these
Speaker:are cross cut and thin, you know, as we said, a quarter, half inch thick.
Speaker:So we're talking about a
Speaker:centimeter thick.
Speaker:They're thick.
Speaker:They're tender.
Speaker:These are so good.
Speaker:And they get a little blackened.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And they're charred down.
Speaker:Here's what we do.
Speaker:We use a scissor to cut them into bite sized pieces to cut in between the bones.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So it looks like a little eye.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:It does.
Speaker:I've actually been to restaurants where they cut it off the
Speaker:bone and then into pieces.
Speaker:But I like having the bone on there.
Speaker:I like picking up the bone.
Speaker:I like chewing this meat off the bone.
Speaker:So I'm gonna.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We have chopsticks, of course.
Speaker:Well,
Speaker:wait.
Speaker:Now, we're not done.
Speaker:We're not done?
Speaker:I want to try it.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:Uh, we have to actually sprinkle them with minced scallions and sesame seeds.
Speaker:He's just really crazy here.
Speaker:He's trying to get in here too fast.
Speaker:I'm hungry.
Speaker:Okay, really, seriously, it's 2 p.
Speaker:m.
Speaker:Okay, um I'm always hungry.
Speaker:Eugenwald.
Speaker:So, notice that the Christian said Eugenwald.
Speaker:Uh, we'm gonna put mint scallions and sesame seeds all over the top of this,
Speaker:and then we're gonna actually drizzle a little toasted sesame oil over the top.
Speaker:These are our garnishes.
Speaker:Do you have to do this?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:And also, may I say, a little Oh, so you don't have to do it, but you make me wait.
Speaker:And a little bit of chopped peanut butter.
Speaker:would be also welcome here.
Speaker:So all of that can go on top of
Speaker:this.
Speaker:You don't need a dipping sauce,
Speaker:but
Speaker:if you want to make one, you could do a peanut sauce.
Speaker:That would be nice.
Speaker:You could.
Speaker:But we're not doing it, and we're just going to try these.
Speaker:You
Speaker:sure you can't use Thousand Island dressing?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:Your mayonnaise based dressing for your Korean short ribs.
Speaker:Yum.
Speaker:Okay, so here we go.
Speaker:Uh, I, these are really sweet and irresistible.
Speaker:They're hard to turn down.
Speaker:Do you mind if I eat all three pounds?
Speaker:Yeah, no, well, go ahead.
Speaker:It's two o'clock in the afternoon, as I said.
Speaker:Um, it's your funeral.
Speaker:Well, no, actually, if you die, it's my funeral.
Speaker:I mean, it's my funeral I have to throw.
Speaker:So don't inconvenience me with your funeral.
Speaker:God, I hate being inconvenienced with death.
Speaker:I'll eat two pounds.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:These are so good.
Speaker:Oh, good.
Speaker:And you
Speaker:know, often these would be served with rice and kimchi
Speaker:and with Boston lettuce leaves.
Speaker:When do you see your
Speaker:cardiologist again?
Speaker:Uh, next year.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Well, then eat up.
Speaker:Have fun.
Speaker:Knock yourself out.
Speaker:Just don't inconvenience me with that death stuff.
Speaker:Hey, you know, statins are wonderful.
Speaker:Oh, wow.
Speaker:They allow
Speaker:you to eat anything.
Speaker:No, they do not actually, but that's a whole different podcast.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So that's the whole episode of how to make these short ribs.
Speaker:It's, it's weird, right?
Speaker:With an onion, pear, garlic marinade, soy sauce, uh, sugar.
Speaker:pepper.
Speaker:It's a It's a It's a wild combination.
Speaker:It yields a sweet and extremely irresistible short rib on the grill.
Speaker:And it's very fast.
Speaker:Once you throw this marinade together so fast and stick it in the fridge
Speaker:and let it really get marinated good and then grill it only minutes total
Speaker:on a high heat grill at direct heat.
Speaker:It's really fast.
Speaker:So that's our recipe for this episode of the podcast.
Speaker:Before we get to the final traditional segment, what's making us happy
Speaker:and food this week, let me say that it would be great if you could
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Speaker:Thank you for doing that.
Speaker:And we're going to continue with what's making us happy in food this week.
Speaker:What's making me happy is actually something that happened because of food.
Speaker:We have a tick tock channel flatulence.
Speaker:What?
Speaker:Mark and I have a TikTok channel, of course, called
Speaker:Cooking with Bruce and Mark.
Speaker:And we recently posted a video of Mark making creme anglaise
Speaker:with coconut milk for me.
Speaker:And someone left a comment on that that is making me very happy.
Speaker:And they said how nice it was to see an older, Gay couple doing
Speaker:this, showing a happy life at home.
Speaker:You can tell it's TikTok.
Speaker:Older gay couple.
Speaker:And it just, he said it was very inspiring and wonderful
Speaker:for us to be out there doing it.
Speaker:And that's what's making me happy in food this week.
Speaker:It's a very
Speaker:sweet thing.
Speaker:What's making me happy in food this week is that we are well into
Speaker:summer and we are making kimchi.
Speaker:Well, we.
Speaker:Bruce is making kimchi.
Speaker:We is a big word here.
Speaker:Bruce is making kimchi from scratch.
Speaker:It would go with these short ribs really well.
Speaker:If you want to know how to make the kimchi we make every summer,
Speaker:there's a video of it on our YouTube channel, cooking with Bruce and Mark.
Speaker:It's all cooking with Bruce and Mark from here on out.
Speaker:Uh, on our YouTube channel, there's a, there's a, uh, video of Bruce making it.
Speaker:You have to get it yourself, a giant industrial plastic tub to make this stuff.
Speaker:But we, I should say we make it in the fridge and it's sours in the fridge.
Speaker:And you don't have to worry about room temperature fermentation,
Speaker:which is really good.
Speaker:It will eventually ferment in the fridge.
Speaker:It just takes a little longer.
Speaker:And, um, it's really delicious.
Speaker:It's so spicy and so much more nuanced than the kimchi you can buy at the store.
Speaker:I can't get enough of it.
Speaker:So that's the episode of our podcast this week.
Speaker:Thanks for joining us.
Speaker:We certainly appreciate.
Speaker:Your time with us.
Speaker:We hope that you'll check us out on our Facebook group, cooking
Speaker:with Bruce and Mark, where this recipe and other things will appear
Speaker:and we tell you what's making us happy in food each week.
Speaker:So go to that Facebook group, cooking with Bruce and Mark and share with us
Speaker:what's making you happy in food this week.
Speaker:And maybe it'll be something that we'll try here on our podcast,
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