What up, y'?

All?

This is Emily and I'm Lisa, and we are the Conscience Collaboration.

You know what image I just got in my head?

You know the little emojis of the.

The two girls dancing.

Yeah, that is us.

My phone made a really cute timeline video of us.

Like, took all of our pictures together and made, like, a little music video to it, which I love.

Super cute, you know, just because it shows us, like, when we met and then us with our kids and us working out and then us podcasting and us with friends.

And I was like, that's super nice.

Because sometimes my phone, like, makes a video, like, a compilation of, like, all my saddest moments and puts it to, like, clown me.

Right.

It's, like, very violating.

Or it'll find your exes.

Right.

Not to.

Thank you very much.

It would be interesting, too, just to see.

I. I remember the first picture of our girls together at the Santa thing to see a before and after updated of the girls, too, because they've grown so much tall.

I know.

They're so tall now.

And they were just little babies pretty much.

And Benjamin really was a baby.

I don't even think he was walking.

He was walking.

He was.

He was walking.

Yeah.

Those were the days.

Yeah, that was quite the time.

But anyway, so what's been going on in your world?

Thought we would do a little energetic check in and.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I guess even though we're.

We're not quite officially in fire Horse time yet, like, it feels like we kind of are.

Meaning, you know, this is not a bad thing necessarily, but talk about hit the ground running.

You know, it's just like New Year happened and bam.

Like.

Yeah, and we kind of, you know, we've had these little holidays, but.

It'S.

It's like the things keep adding up, even.

Even though we can and should take those little mini breaks.

But yeah, it's just.

It's just been a lot and so already, even though I feel like Christmas was yesterday, we're here at January 20th on the day, actually, and this is.

Airing on the 28th.

Right, right.

The date of recording is.

Is the 20th.

And I'm like, wait a minute.

Like, January has already mostly happened.

Like, what the hell?

Yeah, I know.

You know the expression.

The expression chomping at the bit that's about a horse that's ready to run.

Oh, you know, so maybe fire horse is chomping at the bit like we're chomping.

He's just chomp, chomp, gone.

Yeah.

Bye.

Yeah, that horse is Running.

Yeah, I. I've been hearing that from everybody.

Like the International Feng Shui Guild.

It's, you know, across town, across the pond, as you say, with, you know, everybody's feeling it.

And it came from, like, if you flash back to, like, you know, June, July, August, we were like, when, like, we're just inching forward and going back and inching forward and going back.

I think we were saying it's like the Pala Abdul, but.

Yeah, yeah, a little.

A little shout out to Apollo Abdul.

But now it feels like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Liked, out, how do we get here?

Horses are honorary, though.

I know that.

Like, when I was little, I wanted my own horse, so my parents were like.

They let me do horseback riding lessons.

And the way that I was able to do that was by working on the farm.

So I was responsible for attacking the horses and bathing them, feeding them, and then I could ride one of the ponies.

Well, those suckers can be pretty ornery.

You know, like, they want to play, they want to run, they want their own rules.

They're very strong.

They'll entertain you, like, to a degree.

But they're like, don't you forget we're wild.

Like, and they love to, you know, play jokes and pranks.

And they can be sweethearts, too.

But I mean, ultimately they're here to run and play and get dirty and look really good doing it.

Like, they're very beautiful.

They love to get messy, but yet they still have flowing hair.

And I. Yeah, I did.

My experience is.

Is far less than yours, it sounds like, but I did horse camp a couple of times over the summer, and that tracks.

I do remember you would have to, like, kind of touch the top of their butt as you're walking around the back just so they don't get scared.

And kick you or stomp on your toes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or they'll, like, get tired of you on their back so they'll, like, rub you off on a fence.

Like, I'm sorry to get stuck, like, thing to do.

Like, if you could ride cats, they would totally do that.

Same, same.

I'm pretty sure they're like the same thing in terms of, like, personality like that.

And you get them all pretty and clean them all up and they immediately go out and roll in the mud.

Well, when you think about free spirit, like, what's the dictionary?

You know, they would usually use a horse to depict that.

Exactly.

Yeah.

I mean, it's very air sign oriented.

It's.

I think today is the official start of Aquarius season.

Yeah.

All the air signs are activated and which I've been learning a lot about because, you know, like how all of the people that we follow in astrology, they focus on the start, the sun sign and then like the related, you know, people in their, in their game.

And the air signs I'm learning a lot about because, you know, Aquarius gets activated, activates Gemini and Libra too.

But very high intellect, very erratic and out of, you know, expect not going to go by guidelines and expectations.

That popcorn toy thing.

Yeah, you know, the awful, awful like toys that they give you when you're a toddler.

That's like a vacuum cleaner, but it has all the little balls that pop.

That's.

That's how I think of air energy.

Yes.

We're popping off.

Air signs are popping off right now.

And I think they're.

We are responsible for a lot of the, you know, orneriness right now.

So.

Yeah, not a lot of people took time off during the holidays from my observation.

And if it was time off, it was like a quick break and then back to running.

Yeah.

Even yesterday I didn't notice anybody taking any time.

I know the kids were out from school, but I was busier yesterday, like work wise.

And any day last week I was like, hey, wait a minute, guys.

Day off here, kids.

Hello.

But people are just like gun, huh?

They're like momentum, momentum.

Let's go, let's go.

So I appreciate it, but I do feel like there needs to be a little bit more like keeping ourselves a little bit disciplined and in check.

But I love, I love the freedom, obviously.

So let's consult each king really quick and we'll tie in some relevancy to that where we left off.

Let's see.

Let me, let me ask Tupi, our AI buddy, You know, to help us shape our I Ching question to build on our conversation.

What do you say about that?

I. I say I.

Do you remember?

Because I don't remember like our exact conversation.

I've done so many I Ching readings lately and they, they all say the same thing, you know, so it's like reading.

It's definitely a collective thing.

It says, maybe we ask about what does the I Ching offer in terms of guidance for harnessing this year's energetic momentum while staying true to our authentic selves.

Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah.

Something like remaining grounded.

Right.

So that all this, it's because it's air and fire energy, which are the more intense and fast moving and, and all this.

And so you know, just how to keep.

I love the part of Balance even in all this intense energy, especially for our friends who might not be so accustomed to the air and fireside energy like we are.

We're like, okay, this is comfortable, but sorry, Earth sign.

I know it's not true for all of our friends.

So, yeah, you know, just.

Just kind of how to manage it without, you know, exploding into a fireball.

Yeah, we don't want to explode into a fireball.

So we'll see.

Like, what is our current energy and how do we move forward in a way that harnesses this new Year' energetic momentum while staying true to our authentic selves.

And any person listening can attune this to their personal, their business.

Whatever is your focus right now.

Just kind of like, listen to your inner guidance on that.

So we'll look for the two.

I saw that energies are popping off.

Like, did somebody say your energy?

Yeah, it's even in the card.

Well, we've been getting great vigor for like a month, so, yeah, we have.

That's kind of the deal.

So that's interesting.

This is looking quite the opposite here.

So this we're going to be talking about, the current energy that we're in is of careful affection.

Okay.

Which is hexagram 54.

Again, that's a 9.

54.

Interesting.

It shows, like, a meandering pathway, and then that gets that meandering pathway turns into, like, a meandering river.

So it's very, like, controlled because we talked about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Very.

Yeah.

Blues and darkness.

So very introspective.

And then moving forward, it says keeping still.

That looks like the emoji I was talking about a little bit.

Yeah, it does.

And not great skill.

I've never seen that card.

Interesting iceberg right ahead.

Yeah, it also looks like.

Like, what happens when is it forms underneath of your skin.

Oh, yeah.

Well, that's like an iceberg.

It's mostly underneath.

Yeah, yeah.

The iceberg is pushing up or like the earth is creating mountains.

Could be either.

And so that's actually hexagram 52, which is backwards, keeping still.

So I think maybe our question is really guiding exactly what the answer is in terms of, like, harnessing the energy.

The words careful affection is where we're in right now.

And that's the story of thunder above and lake below.

So hence the stormy colors, which is like, very inner depths of authenticity.

And, like, what's our purpose and our values?

And I know a lot of people have been doing.

It's just like some introspective work around, like, what are my values?

Am I.

Am I Being seen for what my values are.

Do I feel that I'm in alignment with people and work around me that honors that?

So there's been a lot of talk about that.

I know a lot of people are masterminding around their goals or strategy for the year or having those conversations with their therapists, psychologists, coaches, all of that's happening.

So it's very like that, like intimate, reciprocal relationship between yourself and what the object of the inquiry is.

So if you're thinking about business, if you're thinking about relationships, affection is an important part of an intimate relationship.

But it must be handled carefully to be both satisfying and supportive of each other's if each person's self respect.

So that's interesting, talking about needs, wants, status, you know, satisfaction for both parties.

And if you're applying this to business, that's yourself and then the company that you work for or your co workers.

But thinking about.

And this has come up a lot like I know this for me, I don't know about for you, but I feel like 2025 was just a real lesson and reciprocity in relationships where I was putting my energy and investing, even financially, like are you investing where it's coming back or are you just depleting yourself in all of these areas?

So for me, I felt like, and all the conversations I was having, there was that theme of reciprocity that was resurfacing, like an evaluation, a real deep evaluation.

So moving forward into 2026 and in this energy, I think having that careful affection means like boundaries and evaluating these buckets a little bit more carefully.

So here's where my head went with that a little bit.

Because what you're talking about with evaluating reciprocity is also like energy management in a lot of ways.

Like, okay, where, where am I putting my energy into that is worth it and where am I putting my energy into that is not.

And so I agree, I think 2025 was all about, you know, hammering those out and then releasing right by the end of it, the shedding of the snakes kid and everything, releasing all the things where we're putting our energy where it's not reciprocating that value in turn because and that makes so much sense in setting ourselves up for success, success in the fire horse energy.

Because if you're not properly managing your energy by this time and you haven't developed that skill of, you know, pretty quickly determining whether this, whether or not this is something I should be putting my energy into.

Yeah, then you are going to explode into a fireball if you try to, you know, ride the horse with all this baggage.

Yeah.

Right.

So that, that makes, that makes a.

Lot that makes sense.

Or you're not going to be so depleted, you're not going to have the, like the gas in you to run.

Yeah, yeah.

You're just going to be putting and baggage.

Right.

Like your, your horse is not, it's, it's not going to do very well.

Yeah.

The horse is going to be dragging you behind it.

Yeah.

Like the I Ching is, is talking about this energy more in terms of like intimate relationships, but like making sure like in this, in the story that it tells is like, it's like being in a relationship with someone who's only satisfied by having other lovers but isn't taking into consideration what your satisfaction is.

Yeah.

And so that's not sustainable.

Like only one person is nurtured in that.

So duh.

I think that already directly translates to both business and health.

Even if we're talking about literally a personal relationship.

Because if you're carrying along the baggage of this personal relationship that you're not really meant to be in because it's not returning, you know, the energy that you're putting into it, then how are you going to apply yourself to your work or your own health, you know, that's going to drag you down in all of that.

Like it's not just like physical, it's mental, emotional.

Like where are you being nurtured, where you're being depleted?

And like, are both entities satisfied or operating at like as close as they can to their capacity and energy?

And it says like the irony of life is that the happiest people are those who have what they want and who want what they have.

So that's like the, you know, talks again about, because you want to make things long term and sustainable.

Like we're always saying, whether it's business relationships, so be careful.

We know that this energy that we're in in period nine is more that of like the mature or middle aged woman.

Like coming from great experience and being very receptive and open and very yin versus yang.

Because it's a whole paradigm shift that we're seeing in business.

The way that we do business, the way that we're having conversations, the way that we're talking about our health.

It's, it's shifting to more of like doing a forceful way of doing things and more into like an attunement and openness.

So keeping yourself in check and finding balance in the middle way.

Not to, not to exclude any of the masculine or the young that we need, especially as horses, if we're running.

And so like the top line changing talks about within an intimate relationship, irreverence and cynicism will kill the magic that lives in the heart of a bond.

Whether you're in a relationship now or you're contemplating it in the future.

A union of the heart only works when both parties are as concerned about their mate's happiness when they.

As they are about their own.

So I think that just summarizes what we were saying in terms of reciprocity.

So if you're picking up on this in terms of like, is your career still serving you?

Is your personal relationship still serving you?

Look at it from that lens and address it now before it becomes a problem that holds you back.

And then, yeah, this is just more of the same.

Conscientiousness is rewarded with the fulfillment of your own vision.

So when you show up in a way that's heart centered and conscientious of those around you, it's going to come back to you.

Likewise, if you're going to show up in manipulation or backhanded or not direct ways that are coming from a place of getting your needs met through manipulation, that's going to backfire in you.

So that applies to any manifestation goal that you have to actualize in this year.

Because I know everybody just did all their actualization, their manifestation work for the, for the white people, the, the white girls that are, that are doing their spirituality exercise around the moons with the nose rings and the piercings.

I need more piercings to qualify.

Piercing.

Oh yeah, you did have them.

You did have a nose ring, right?

I did.

I can still put one in there.

It just doesn't feel as good.

Yeah, you fit that description though.

I, I will consult you during the moon.

No, mine was more of a Tupac vibe than, oh, yeah.

Sure.

Spirit guide.

It says, be patient and kind with yourself.

When the shine of your own light is true, others will naturally be attracted to it.

Talking about authenticity, it might feel lonely because you're being inward and being reserved and.

And then bottom line is it can be a time of accomplishment.

Even if you find yourself with less status than you desired or with limited resources than you wish you had.

If you accept your position and destiny, you may discover new secrets close to home and even come to feel happy in these circumstances.

Being in the, in the proximity of power is something to be appreciated as well in itself.

So.

And it might, yeah, it might be a time to undertake something because good fortune is riding with you.

Reference Direct reference to horses there.

So good.

So you know how, like, horses run in packs and they take turns being on the inside and the outside, like marathon runners, like, carry each other forward.

Okay, that's what I was thinking about in that, like, if you put yourself around people with the momentum and the drive, even if you're feeling like you're not able to or capable of moving as fast or you don't have as enough status, just get yourself in the room, put yourself in the right pack of horses.

Yep.

And then lastly, moving forward talks about.

Yeah, regular periods of rest are important aspects of personal development and evolution.

Being able to rest when you're at 35,000ft.

We have had this one before, but it's been a while.

So, like, you can still cruise forward and you can get great strides, but everybody, like, for the love of God, takes some periods of rest and ourselves included, and it tells a story again.

And I remember talking to you about this because you understand this concept really well.

But consider the spine, which serves as a switchboard.

Right.

Remember this conversation.

That helps to mediate movement and to negotiate when to do this and when to do that.

And the spine needs to be kept healthy, like flexible.

And you need rest and relaxation for that.

It can't be under duress, extreme stress all the time to be able to support all the different parts of our body.

So.

So as well.

Right.

You.

You go in bouts of really intense work and then you chill.

Yeah.

And also, like, the building happens.

Yep.

I think, myself included, when I have a lot of things to solve, challenges in life and business or, you know, whatever.

My natural reaction is, I've got to do everything.

Like, I have to do more.

I have to learn about everything harder.

I have to get things in motion harder.

But what this is saying as we talk about keeping still is to be still is the key to obtaining the peace of mind and the clarity that's going to help you stay alert when you need to make the key decisions.

Exactly.

It's working smarter, not harder.

And if our bodies were able to evolve out of needing rest, they would have by now.

True that.

So, like, protect your vitality so that you have the reserves to run when fire horse season is in full, full mood.

And it also advises, call a timeout if you need to, like, speak up, enforce your boundaries, call timeout like, gracefully.

You don't need to be a dick about it.

But like, hey, timeout.

I need a minute.

And I'm sure other people around you are in the same place and it will help, maybe give Them alleviate some stress on their own.

Meditate on just being.

So meditate on being versus doing.

Human beings, not human doings.

They say.

Yeah, makes me want to go to the beach and have a margarita right now.

Maybe.

Yeah.

Tomorrow when it goes back up to the 70s.

56.

It's getting there.

I'm allergic.

Allergic to the cold.

Yeah.

Well, I don't know.

I think that that was good.

These always feel like they're directly talking to me and totally related to our pre chat and the beginning of the conversation, like definitely related to business, to personal inner self.

All of the above.

Yeah.

What do you say?

I say true that.

Are you ready to take it inside of the conscious collaboration collective?

Ready as I'm gonna be.

Come on in to our closing Facebook group, people.

Come on in.

We got stuff for you.

The alignment plan that we created last year is still there, so if you want to catch up on that and do some of that work on alignment and the concept of that, that's great.

I think this year, as we've been talking, maybe our next guide that we do.

What is it, you know, should it be listening and receiving as it relates to health and, you know, holistic health space and our businesses?

Yeah.

Well, you know, let us know.

Let us know what would be most.

Most useful, Helpful.

Yeah, it feels like that, but yes.

Let's get your thoughts on that.

There needs to be a poll.

You got something you're picking up on, something else we're putting out.

We'd love to support you in that.

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Our Little podcast.

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And Emily and I are going to be on the road this year.

We've got our sites, we've got our sights on some travel.

Yeah.

So taking the pod on the road.

Yeah, let's do it.

There we go.

Let's do it.

All right, guys, let's talk to you in five.

Talk to you in five.

Bye, guys.

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