Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
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Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BAll right, welcome back.
Speaker BSam Wakefield here.
Speaker BThis is the Close It Now H Vac sales training podcast.
Speaker BToday we are talking about confidence doing.
Speaker BDo you have confidence in what you do?
Speaker BDo your words say that you have confidence?
Speaker BBecause that is one of the most important things in sales and making a sale.
Speaker BI would always rather have someone that is confident than someone who is wishy washy.
Speaker BWhen I am talking about, talking to anyone about sales, about, you know, doing a service or a product that I'm shopping for.
Speaker BIt's the same thing with clients.
Speaker BSo today we're talking about confidence.
Speaker BThere's some words that are very important in communicating confidence and some that are not so important.
Speaker BSo that's what we're going to talk about today.
Speaker BVery specific words that when you swap these around, you'll see a massive difference immediately in your sales.
Speaker BSo thanks for joining.
Speaker BFirst, I want to give a super quick shout out to my mom.
Speaker BShe's been listening lately.
Speaker BSo hi mom, good to hear you.
Speaker BHear that you've been enjoying the podcast.
Speaker BI know that my target demographic is a little bit different than you, but thank you for supporting me.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BBut yeah, so confidence, confidence, confidence, confidence.
Speaker BIt's so crucial to your sales career if you're not confident.
Speaker BSo here's a fun interesting story.
Speaker BI had got a call recently from a guy that actually was with my insurance company.
Speaker BJust you know, my local insurance for auto and for.
Speaker BI've got some renters insurance and some different things.
Speaker BWell, he calls me and says hey, I am new to this office.
Speaker BSo the agent at the office wanted me to call you and just make sure that you knew everything we offered and to make connection with all of our clients.
Speaker BSo I'm going through the list and just talking to people.
Speaker BOkay, great.
Speaker BWell, what's, what, what's up?
Speaker BWhat's going on?
Speaker BHe said, well, you know, one, I wanted to introduce myself but two, I wanted to find out, did you know that our insurance company offers life insurance?
Speaker BAnd I said, well, yes, of course I do.
Speaker BThey're an insurance company, they offer life insurance.
Speaker BAnd so he tells me, wow, I've been in the industry for a long time and I didn't even know that.
Speaker BAnd instantly my confidence in his confidence went through the floor.
Speaker BBecause when with insurance companies, that's one of the most common things they do is life insurance.
Speaker BSo for him to say something like, I've been in this industry for a long time and I didn't even know that when it's something really common, it was totally lost my confidence in him as a representative for my agent.
Speaker BAnd the same thing happens with us if you if a custom.
Speaker BSo there's a difference in, you know, saying, you know, I don't know the answer to that specifically, but I can find out and I'll get right back to you.
Speaker BAnd then.
Speaker BOr saying something like, you know, I've done this a long time and I've never even heard of that.
Speaker BWell, there's a big difference there.
Speaker BThere's a huge difference in that type of a response.
Speaker BAnd that is part of what I'm talking the it's okay to not know everything.
Speaker BIt's your demeanor and your confidence that comes across.
Speaker BIf you're unsure about even how to find out, that's the difference.
Speaker BBecause no one expects you to know everything.
Speaker BWhat they do expect you to know is how to find the solutions to their problems.
Speaker BThey expect you to know how to locate basically at your fingertips, how to locate the solution, how to locate the answer.
Speaker BSo some of the keywords, and this is something I've worked on for a long time and actually go to the Internet, use the search, Google something like power words or words that are questioning words.
Speaker BYou can do all kind of different searches on the intensity of words.
Speaker BYou can do searches on words that raise questions, searches on words that.
Speaker BAnd there's lots of psychology of sales and lots of different things that they have these lists that are easily found on words that have power, words that have meaning.
Speaker BAnd those are the words you want to use when you're in a sales appointment.
Speaker BHere's a great example for you to stop using expressions that raise questions in a customer's mind.
Speaker BSo a good example is maybe you're looking at a, say, duck work design with a homeowner.
Speaker BAnd the problem is, let's set this up with a context.
Speaker BSay it's little Johnny's bedroom in the corner of the house.
Speaker BThe room is always too hot in the summer.
Speaker BYou know the solution right off the top of your head.
Speaker BYou know, the room needs some return.
Speaker BAnd also, maybe there's a problem with the supply duct getting over to that room.
Speaker BIt maybe it comes off of a bad junction and is not getting any airflow.
Speaker BYou've investigated it.
Speaker BYou've done your due diligence.
Speaker BYou've gone in the attic or in the, in the crawl space, wherever your ductwork is, and you've figured it out.
Speaker BYou know what's going on.
Speaker BYou know what the solution is.
Speaker BNow, here's where the problem arises.
Speaker BYou get back with the homeowner and you say something along these lines of, well, I think that if we were to do this duct work this way, yeah, that's probably going to be the solution.
Speaker BDoes that give any confidence in the homeowner's mind?
Speaker BBecause you're, one, you think, two, you use the word probably, which means there's a chance that it couldn't.
Speaker BSo the right way to communicate that to the homeowner is, okay, I've investigated the problem.
Speaker BHere's a picture.
Speaker BLet me describe to you what's happening.
Speaker BIt's not getting airflow here.
Speaker BAnd also it can't circulate, so it needs return.
Speaker BThat is the solution, solution for this problem.
Speaker BAnd once we do this, it will fix the air, the temperature problem in this room.
Speaker BDo you understand how that is going to make the situation better?
Speaker BThen you ask the question at the end.
Speaker BDo they understand how it's going to improve the situation?
Speaker BBut at any point in that explanation, did you hear me use any words of question?
Speaker BI didn't say probably.
Speaker BI didn't say, well, I think I said this is the problem, this is the solution.
Speaker BAnd once it's finished, it's going to be.
Speaker BThe benefits are the room is going to be the same temperature as the rest of the rooms around it.
Speaker BAnd then clarify with them.
Speaker BDo you understand how this is going to fix the problem?
Speaker BDoes all of this make sense to you?
Speaker BSo anytime you give new data, you always follow up with a question of does that make sense?
Speaker BSo can you see how with this type of language change, one, your confidence goes up because.
Speaker BAnd try it.
Speaker BWhen you feel yourself and when you hear yourself use words of question with like, well, I think this is probably the solution.
Speaker BAnd, well, this is probably going to, you know, I think this is it.
Speaker BIt's probably going to work.
Speaker BThose kinds of.
Speaker BAnd expressions, your confidence is even less.
Speaker BBut when you change those around and you use words of this is.
Speaker BAnd we are going to solve this problem.
Speaker BBy doing this, this because of airflow design.
Speaker BThis is how this is supposed to be.
Speaker BAnd don't be scared.
Speaker BJust because somebody bought a house, they don't always expect that everything in the house has been done.
Speaker BThat's why they called you.
Speaker BThey got a problem.
Speaker BSo don't be scared.
Speaker BTo use words like, this was designed very poorly to start with.
Speaker BThis is a bad design.
Speaker BI'm here to fix it.
Speaker BBecause something was built that way from construction.
Speaker BWe all know builder grade is builder grade.
Speaker BUse those terms.
Speaker BYou say, here's a really, really great way to communicate to a homeowner.
Speaker BSay, listen, builder grade is just that there is that.
Speaker BIt's called that for a reason.
Speaker BBecause a lot of times builders use installers, builders use companies that maybe not necessarily can get work with real companies.
Speaker BSo they'll work for builders.
Speaker BSo what you end up with is a result that is not at all what you would want.
Speaker BIt's not at all what makes sense with any type of design.
Speaker BYou know, you can go to classes for this or you can work for the builders.
Speaker BI mean, you could a lot of things that you could use.
Speaker BBut more importantly, and that's not saying that they're all bad.
Speaker BThere are a lot of times there's some really great companies that work with builders.
Speaker BMost of the time, however, that's not the case.
Speaker BYou find really subpar installations.
Speaker BSo if a homeowner has, you know, has something in their mind like, wow, this house isn't that old.
Speaker BWhy am I having these problems?
Speaker BThen that question is, well, it's called builder grade for a reason.
Speaker BIt's the very.
Speaker BAnd don't be scared to use the terms, it's the very lowest end, cheapest, bottom dollar project that the builder could get.
Speaker BThat is a builder grade, builder level installation.
Speaker BAnd that's what.
Speaker BUnfortunately, Mr.
Speaker BHomeowner, what you have here now, what we do is fix that problem.
Speaker BWe've taken the design classes, we know what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker BThis is the problem.
Speaker BIt was designed poorly to start with.
Speaker BAnd what it should look like is this, here's what we're going.
Speaker BAnd that will instill so much confidence in the homeowner.
Speaker BYou're raising your value.
Speaker BSo when it comes to the dollar amount, say, here's how much it is.
Speaker BAnd their only thought is, how soon can you get it installed?
Speaker BHow soon can you get this fixed?
Speaker BCause I'm tired of dealing with this problem.
Speaker BAnd when you say that, say, hey, let's fix this problem for good.
Speaker BThis is the solution.
Speaker BSo you Never have to deal with it again.
Speaker BYou'll find that people will write you checks left and because they are tired of dealing with their problems.
Speaker BAnd that's part of the uncovering process at the beginning of what rooms are warmer than others when some rooms are cool, what rooms are colder than others when some rooms are warm in the winter and when they start to.
Speaker BAnd then how so how bad?
Speaker BTell me about that and uncover that.
Speaker BAnd then when you offer the solutions, it's make it much more of a here's the problem and here's how we're going to fix it in first person and as if it's already on the calendar, you know, and when you talk about the solutions, this is another very, very important principle.
Speaker BSo many, so many salespeople, so many project managers or comfort advisors, comfort consultants, whatever you call yourself, and in fact join our community and we'll have a thread on that because I want to know what everybody calls themselves in the industry, but so many people scared to use the affirmative in the positive type of terminology.
Speaker BWhen it comes to the project.
Speaker BWhen you're talking to the homeowner and if the, if it comes up and you're saying things like, well, if you choose us to go with this project and well, if selected, then we will do this type of work, you're always leaving it, leaving it hanging as if it's a question of them choosing you.
Speaker BSo change that terminology to things like, okay, so here's what we're going to do is we're going to change this ductwork here and we're going to do this with the project.
Speaker BHere's what we do.
Speaker BWhen the guys are out, they're going to change this flue pipe here and they're going to do this new platform here, change it to the positive.
Speaker BAssume the cell from the very beginning in your words and your communication with the homeowner.
Speaker BYou know, make it okay.
Speaker BSo when the, on the day of install, here's what it's going to look like, here's what that day looks like.
Speaker BThey're going to call you to let you know when they're going to be here.
Speaker BThis day is going to look like this when we do the install, here's what to expect.
Speaker BAnd so every bit of your communication as if they've already decided they're using you before you even got there.
Speaker BAnd so when you function in that, the assumed sell at the end makes it so much simpler because they're already in the mode of, yeah, we might as well use these people.
Speaker BThey're so confident that they're going to do the job right and we're going to get exactly what we want, that this is a no brainer.
Speaker BIt's a no brainer to pull the trigger with this company.
Speaker BIt's a no brainer to say, yes, let's do it.
Speaker BBecause the end result has nothing to do with the brand of equipment.
Speaker BIt has nothing to do with, you know, which if it's adaptive or modulating or very, you know, single stage, who cares how many stages?
Speaker BWhat it has to do with is your confidence that their benefits, their end result is going to be exactly what you say.
Speaker BIt's going to be using expressions like, I've seen this situation hundreds of times or thousands of times.
Speaker BBe truthful, but I've fixed this specific problem, you know, 840, 42 times across these last couple years.
Speaker BI know exactly the solution for this problem.
Speaker BAnd when you start using that kind of terminology, say no problem.
Speaker BThis is something we see all the time.
Speaker BYou called the right company.
Speaker BWe know exactly how to fix this.
Speaker BThat is those kinds of terminologies that instills so much confidence in the homeowner that they will totally let down their guard and tell you about the concerns they have, the things they're experiencing in the home and they'll open up.
Speaker BAnd of course, every single one of these things is increasing your percentage of earning the sale, because that's what it is.
Speaker BIt's not about making the sale.
Speaker BIt's not a luck, it's not a numbers game.
Speaker BYou are every single house you step into, you're earning the sale, you're earning the sale from the homeowner.
Speaker BYou're figuring out, you know, uncovering what their concerns are, what their problems are, and then matching your solutions to fit their problem.
Speaker BSee, so I went to three appointments today.
Speaker BTwo of them were basic cut and dry.
Speaker BOne, you know, one appointment, close it on the spot.
Speaker BThe third one that I went to today was a job that we don't want.
Speaker BI gave the, it was actually a renovation project that is not, does not fit my company's wheelhouse.
Speaker BCould we do it?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BWould it be a big project?
Speaker BSure.
Speaker BIt's probably going to be about a $35,000 project.
Speaker BHowever, it's not something that fits within our spectrum of what we're good at.
Speaker BSo I gave him a lot of education, gave him a lot of good information.
Speaker BWe parted as friends and basically said, we're not the company for you because it's way too far outside the scope of what we're expert At.
Speaker BAnd it's OK to say that it's okay to walk away from a job, but I was even confident in that.
Speaker BSay, listen, here's how to do it right.
Speaker BIf it were my house, here's what I would do.
Speaker BWhen you're talking to companies to do this project, ask about these.
Speaker BThis handful of things and those are the steps that they're gonna.
Speaker BAnybody who does this is gonna have to take to do it right.
Speaker BWe're not your company.
Speaker BI wish you the best luck and I hope you find one.
Speaker BSo it's okay to walk away from a project if it's not what you know can be.
Speaker BAw.
Speaker BIf it's going to take too much time out of your busy calendar when you can do so.
Speaker BThis job would take an entire week with a crew where I could do maybe five projects in that same amount of time and have two thirds greater revenue because my crew was tied up for that amount of time.
Speaker BNo, it doesn't make any sense to do that.
Speaker BSo that's the type of project our company would take on, possibly in the completely dead off season, maybe not even then, because it's not what we're experts at.
Speaker BSo I hereby give you permission right now to walk away from jobs that are not what you do, that you're not good at.
Speaker BSam Wakefield from Close it now has given you permission to say, no, you don't have to install every single thing that comes your way.
Speaker BYou don't have to do that project.
Speaker BIt is not always in your best interest.
Speaker BNow, everything that is, we're going to close it and we're going to close it now.
Speaker BBut that's a fun little aside.
Speaker BDon't have to do every single thing that comes your way.
Speaker BSome of those projects are better suited for somebody else and it would only cost you heartache and misery.
Speaker BSo don't do it.
Speaker BDon't do it to yourself.
Speaker BWhen you have that gut feeling of, man, this probably isn't good for.
Speaker BFor me, trust that.
Speaker BTrust that feeling and go with it.
Speaker BJust because there's maybe big numbers attached to it doesn't always mean it's the right thing.
Speaker BSo that's the lesson for today.
Speaker BUse confidence words.
Speaker BUse words that are positive words that communicate to the homeowner that you've seen this problem before.
Speaker BYour company, you and your company know exactly how to fix it.
Speaker BAnd here's how we're going to do it.
Speaker BWhen during the install, the guys are going to do this, this and this, and that will be the solution.
Speaker BSo at the end of the day you've got exactly what you're asking for and it's going to be even better than you thought possible.
Speaker BAnd when you communicate like that, that's when the homeowner whip out their checkbook and say, how soon can we get started?
Speaker BAnd I live in proof.
Speaker BThat happens all the time.
Speaker BThe time.
Speaker BSo thanks for listening.
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