Could you go back to school to support your children's book business?
Speaker ASuppose you have been listening to our podcast show.
Speaker AIn that case, you have heard each children's book author discuss their experience of school classrooms, assemblies, or other reading events as part of their children's book revenue stream strategy.
Speaker AA few weeks ago, I was asked to read our children's book the Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear to my youngest grandson's class.
Speaker AI was thrilled, but he is in grade six.
Speaker AThis audience was a little older than our target audience of ages 4 to 10 for our children's book the Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear.
Speaker AI knew I had to change it up a bit and after I read the book, I created a workshop on how to write a children's book.
Speaker AIt was fun and the students were very engaged.
Speaker AThe question and answer portion went on longer than I expected.
Speaker AI put together a small package of activity sheets for each student and a bookmark for an audiobook of our children's story.
Speaker AI received a great review from my grandson's teacher which I've posted On our website caboosetherockymountainbear.com if you get a chance, please give it a read.
Speaker AI was hoping that the handout would create some interest in her book, but I didn't see any sales.
Speaker AAs a result of her handout, which included mention of our website and a link to purchase our book, I realized the audience I read to was much more interested in how to write and publish a children's book.
Speaker AI will change up my workshop material should I engage in an older audience.
Speaker AAgain, I thought back to all my discussions with the children's book authors I've interviewed, as well as our conversations about how they manage their school, classroom assembly, or other book reading events.
Speaker AHowever, few of my fellow children's book authors had a well defined plan to support a book reading revenue model.
Speaker AVery few had a children's book reading visit fee, and if the authors did have a fee, it was very low or much too flexible.
Speaker AIf a school pushed back, they would drop the price for a school reading visit or do the reading for free.
Speaker AFree would be okay if you could obtain commitments from the teacher, the school, or the school board that they would send home an order form or at the very least a piece of marketing material that directs parents to your website or provides a link to purchase your book.
Speaker AThis rarely happens.
Speaker AWhat is sad about these entire school visits is that teachers, principals, administrators of these schools or school boards would not give up their salary or work for free.
Speaker AI love educators as I have a degree in adult education.
Speaker AHowever, I would challenge all educators to help children's book authors earn revenue from school visits or assemblies.
Speaker ANot one children's book author is getting rich from your classroom or school assembly visit.
Speaker AThe children's book author will likely earn a minimum wage or less from the visit.
Speaker AFrom what I gather, the administration of a school or classroom reading visit is often loose and unstructured.
Speaker AThere's no clear plan laid out by the school or the classroom for such visits.
Speaker AThe teacher, the school, or the school board has no guarantee of delivering any specific results.
Speaker AThe children's book author is often left to handle things to their imagination and means Part of this episode I'm including two audio clips from previous episodes because they deserve a additional sharing and focus.
Speaker AWe must hear and learn from doers children's book authors who are making it happen.
Speaker AFirst is Monica voiku denison episode 21 who has the most comprehensive school visit program I've seen.
Speaker APlease enjoy this audio clip.
Speaker BYou have a comprehensive Just so the listening audience knows, Monica has a comprehensive school visit schedule.
Speaker BLike I I was really impressed about.
Speaker AHow you did this.
Speaker BSo you have not only do you have a one pager showing about the school visits, then you have a single presentation, a half day and a full day.
Speaker BSo talk to us about that.
Speaker BIt's quite interesting.
Speaker CSo that's new and it was inspired by seeing it on other authors websites.
Speaker CAnd I thought I wanted it to be upfront for schools and organizations, organizations that were interested in booking me.
Speaker CThey could see exactly what they're getting and I wanted to put forth a really professional kind of menu of options because I do find that a lot of people expect you to do school visits for free.
Speaker CThey don't think about how it's somebody's time and it's somebody's gas money and it's somebody's babysitting money and it's all the costs that go along with it.
Speaker CAnd so my goal is I did some free school visits last year and I'm no longer doing free school visits because I just can't afford to.
Speaker CI if somebody if the school doesn't have a budget to pay for the visit, I think of other ways we can.
Speaker CMaybe there's like a minimum amount of books they can order or something like that we can work out.
Speaker CBut I'm trying to get away from offering free school visits because I feel like that does a disservice to authors generally because it is time and work for us and schools often do have budgets for these things.
Speaker AAnd I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker BBecause that's been my most difficult thing is people have said, how many school visits have you done?
Speaker BI haven't done any.
Speaker BAnd the reason being is because it's all the efforts that you put into things come at a cost.
Speaker BAnd to your point, as school visits, people don't realize there's a lot of costs involved to get to the school.
Speaker BIt's important for people to understand when you go to read to grade one or two or grade threes or kindergarten, whatever, when you get there, it's not like they've got 20 bucks in their pocket that they're going to buy your book.
Speaker BIt's not direct selling.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker CAnd so you have to.
Speaker CYeah, I send like a pre order form that I asked the school to send it out.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo I've done.
Speaker CHow many school visits have I done?
Speaker C3 or 4 at this point and I haven't been paid for any of them.
Speaker CAnd I have two coming up that I will be paid for.
Speaker CAnd I think my website has helped with that.
Speaker CAnd I think it was a lesson learned for me because there was during month of the military, Month of the military child last year there were two schools on a base that I offered to come to and one of the schools couldn't afford to pay me and I said, okay, that's fine, as long as you send out pre order forms to your school, I can just come visit for free.
Speaker CAnd the other school, same base, I didn't realize they could have paid me and I was just trying to be fair.
Speaker CSo I said, since I'm not making the other school pay, you don't have to pay either.
Speaker CJust please send out my order forms.
Speaker CThe first school I got, I sold like 30 books or something, which is great.
Speaker CAnd then the second school, I think only two people bought books and they could have paid me, but I, because I was trying to be fair, they didn't.
Speaker CAnd so that was a lesson learned for me of don't just offer to do it for free.
Speaker CAnd because I don't know, I don't know what happened there, I think maybe somebody didn't send the pre order forms with enough notice or something.
Speaker CIt was bizarre to me because it's the same exact group of kids, basically it's like the same base.
Speaker CSo it's not.
Speaker CThere shouldn't be a reason why One school bought 30 books and the other school bought two.
Speaker CIt just seemed weird to me.
Speaker CAnd so that I think was a really good lesson for me that obviously if there's a case where a school really wants me to come out and they can't afford it and they're asking what can we do?
Speaker CI'm going to work with them.
Speaker CBut I shouldn't just offer to come for free.
Speaker BAnd you know what I loved about how comprehend when I said it was comprehensive.
Speaker BI think this is a lesson for all of the people aspiring authors or children's book authors.
Speaker BYou set out a single presentation price, a half day price and a full day price.
Speaker BThe nice thing about it, it's a la carte.
Speaker BYou've given the school's options.
Speaker BI just love that because I noticed most authors just put a 1 flat rate and they really aren't.
Speaker BThey don't go into the detail like you did.
Speaker BSo hats off to you.
Speaker BGreat job.
Speaker CThank you.
Speaker BYou're welcome.
Speaker AMonica has offered us so much value in the show notes.
Speaker AI've included Monica's website.
Speaker APlease view her author's visit tab on her website to get an idea behind her entire visit program.
Speaker AMonica's website can provide you with a children's book author visit program.
Speaker AShould all emulate.
Speaker AMonica mentioned developing her programs from other sources, children's book authors.
Speaker AAnd I'm sure she would not mind you modeling your book reading visit process from her.
Speaker ABe sure to give her a big shout out and encourage people to purchase her books.
Speaker ANext, I'm including an audio clip to serve as a guide on how to create a point of difference and add value to your book reading visits.
Speaker AThe audio clip is from Amber B.
Speaker AMitchell, episode 32, who developed a unique idea to support classroom, school assembly and other book reading events.
Speaker BI want to get to what I think is so magical what you did.
Speaker BAnd I know I teased everybody at the beginning of the show, including Amber.
Speaker BI teased her like, what am I doing?
Speaker BSpecial and magical that Rick hasn't seen with any other children's book author so far.
Speaker BAnd when I looked at your website videos and you were at the assemblies and you had a puppet, a fit.
Speaker BYeah, I thought, oh my goodness, that is phenomenal.
Speaker BAnd the reason I get so excited about this is if you look behind us.
Speaker BAnd so those who are listening in, I tell the story on some of the episodes when my granddaughter and I came up with our idea about this adventurous bear, it was all based on a real story that happened to us.
Speaker BAnd what happened was my granddaughter went to a daycare and the daycare had two stuffies.
Speaker BOne was a rabbit named Georgia and one was a bear named her brother George.
Speaker BSo there was Georgia the rabbit and George the bear, and they were brother and sister.
Speaker BAnd the daycare would give them to children if they were going on vacation.
Speaker BAnd then when the children came back, they would tell stories about their adventures.
Speaker BSo Kira brought Georgia a lot, the stuffed bunny.
Speaker BAnd we did so many adventures.
Speaker BWe ran all over the Rocky Mountains, and we just had so much fun.
Speaker BKira outgrew the daycare and.
Speaker BBut we had all these adventures.
Speaker BWe had all these stories, but we need the character.
Speaker BWe had a character in mind.
Speaker BWe just didn't know how to bring the character to life.
Speaker BMy wife and I talked about this adventurous bear so much to my wife that I'm sure she thought I was crazy.
Speaker BBut we were down in San Francisco on a holiday and went into one of these plushie bear places that they had this bear, and then they had this engineering outfit.
Speaker BIt was magical.
Speaker BCaboose was born, and we actually used the.
Speaker BThis bear in the background that, of course, anybody listening can't see.
Speaker BBut the bear ended up being our inspiration for our main character.
Speaker BI took a picture of the bear and gave it to the illustrator.
Speaker BAnd our illustrator built our whole book series around one stuffy.
Speaker CI love that.
Speaker BThat's why I'm excited about what you're doing, because I never thought about a puppet taking your main character and turning it into a puppet.
Speaker BSo I'm so interested, and I think, as a storyteller, like, what a great thing to do.
Speaker BTell us about that whole experience.
Speaker BHow did you come up with that idea?
Speaker DI'm trying to remember where I did come up with the idea.
Speaker DI think I was trying to figure out a way.
Speaker DSo in my book, there are several times throughout the story when Finn, my main character, will sing, Chickadee Dee Dee this place is not for me.
Speaker DAnd then at the end, he'll say, Chickadee Dee Dee.
Speaker DThis place was made for me, but I wanted the kids to sing that phrase with me, the Chickadee Dee Dee.
Speaker DAnd I thought, what's a good way I can engage the kids to get them to say it, but to also quiet down after so they can continue to hear the story.
Speaker DAnd I thought, what?
Speaker DHave a puppet?
Speaker DAnd I can hold him up in the air and say, when Finn flies up in the air, that's your cue.
Speaker DAnd it's time to say Chickadee Dee Dee.
Speaker DAnd then when he comes back down, we need to be quiet so we can hear the rest of the story.
Speaker DI've used him as a tool, and it's funny because I did it in reverse of the way you did it.
Speaker DI had my character drawn first and then I sent the picture that the illustrator created of Finn into a company called Budsies and they created the puppet and he came looking more like a penguin.
Speaker DI'm not gonna lie.
Speaker CSo I.
Speaker DThat's fun though, because I will joke about that with the kids when I go and I'll say, how many of you think he looks like a chickadee?
Speaker DAnd how many of you think he actually looks more like a penguin?
Speaker DAnd they think that's fun.
Speaker BThat's hilarious.
Speaker BThe nice thing about the on the front cover is he's pretty fat.
Speaker BUntil you said that, I, of course I haven't seen Finn live as a puppet, but I thought, wow, that's pretty darn cool.
Speaker DThe hard thing is I'm like in the company's credit.
Speaker DI don't know how you would make it look more like a chickadee because the coloring is very similar to penguin.
Speaker BTell us about the interaction with the kids.
Speaker BHave the kids said, can I get a puppet to go with the book?
Speaker DThey'd never asked for a puppet.
Speaker DActually shocked that I yeah, so am I.
Speaker DBut I do have to say they haven't asked for that at school visits.
Speaker DBut when I've been at my farmer's market, I will set my puppet out on the table with my book and they will ask if they can buy the puppet too.
Speaker DAnd I've said no, that one is just for when I go and read my stories.
Speaker DBut I'll let them hold it and pet it.
Speaker AAnd I've added a link to Amber's website and you can view a video clip of Amber and Finn, her main character and puppet in action.
Speaker AThis entire concept behind this podcast episode is to encourage you to add value.
Speaker AGet paid for school and book reading events.
Speaker AIf you can develop a point of difference as Amber has, there is much to gain allowing your revenue to grow and develop to support the sales and marketing of your book.
Speaker ARemember, most of us will not get a traditional publishing company to publish our book.
Speaker AHowever, these publishing houses do have guidelines for their school and reading visits.
Speaker AThese companies advise their authors not to sell themselves short, nor should you ensure revenue.
Speaker AWhether it's direct or indirect is part of your goal.
Speaker AThis goal should be clear.
Speaker AI felt it was essential to challenge you as an indie or self published children's book author to have a formula of what the minimum you should do for book reading events.
Speaker AIn this portion of the podcast episode, please note an overview formula entitled Children's Book Author Revenue for Successful Classroom School assembly and reading events.
Speaker AWe will discuss the following items to secure a paid reading visit Event okay, here we go.
Speaker AConsider the type of event you're planning.
Speaker AClassroom, school assembly or reading event visits, including the number of presentations, the age and size of the audience, and the venue.
Speaker APlanning your timeline Use a booking calendar and there are many different booking calendar services you can add to your website.
Speaker ASet up days of the week and times through this calendar.
Speaker ARemember, using a booking calendar allows your clients options and they can pick the time or days that work for them.
Speaker AHave a transparent cost structure on your website or marketing sheet for your classroom visit.
Speaker ALook at a single visit price, a half day price, a full day price, and a detailed promise of what you are offering as content and the program for your visit.
Speaker AHaving published costs and options for your clients allows them to fit it into their budget or develop a budget.
Speaker AThe venue where is the school or is it a public library or is it a different location altogether?
Speaker AKnow the client's equipment that they are supporting you for your visit and reading.
Speaker AWhat equipment, marketing and sales materials are you as an author allowed to bring?
Speaker AHave your author's bio and books or books and other supporting educational materials ready to help the children that you are engaging with.
Speaker AFor example activity sheets, quizzes, coloring sheets, coloring books and review your children's book author's website.
Speaker AThe Event promise what is the teacher, the school, or the outside event promise?
Speaker AKnow the offer up front.
Speaker AExplain to the students what the teacher or school would like each student to do.
Speaker AI'm not saying have them go home and tell their parents they have to purchase the author's book, but at the very least go to the author's website or link to review the author's book or books and see if you can get support through that method.
Speaker AAsk the school if they would use your order form.
Speaker AIt'd be the ultimate support for your children's book author's visit.
Speaker AAm I encouraging all children's book authors to have a book reading paid program as part of their book business strategy?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AIt can be a big commitment and you need to do some homework to ensure that this is a revenue source that will work for you in your marketplace.
Speaker AThank you for spending a little time with us today and decide if you're going to go back to school and support your children's book business.