In this episode, I'm going to tell you about the support
Speaker:I wish I had to help me bypass some serious
Speaker:procrastination. Hi, I'm Katie McManus, business
Speaker:strategist and money mindset coach, and welcome to the
Speaker:Weeniecast. A question I get an
Speaker:annoying amount of times is how do I prevent myself from
Speaker:procrastinating? How do I get everything done on my to do list
Speaker:and on and on and on. And let me tell you, I don't.
Speaker:One of the challenges of being a coach who works with
Speaker:ADHD business owners is that I am also an ADHD
Speaker:business owner. And the challenges don't change when you know
Speaker:better. Just because I help other people figure out how to overcome their
Speaker:challenges with their ADHD in starting and growing their businesses
Speaker:doesn't mean I have it all figured out myself. For me and my
Speaker:business, far from it, knowing all the different
Speaker:strategies that can work for other people creates an immense amount of pressure on
Speaker:me to just be perfect at all this stuff
Speaker:because I teach on it after all, right, I should be perfect.
Speaker:I fail in managing my ADHD every single day in
Speaker:my business and I know the shame that goes along with it. I know the
Speaker:frustration and sometimes it's not a big deal, you know, sometimes I
Speaker:don't post to LinkedIn and okay, cool, I'll post
Speaker:tomorrow. Sometimes my newsletter. Oh, no, that's a bad
Speaker:example. I'm very bad at having a newsletter, so that's an ongoing problem.
Speaker:I've actually, I'm gonna start outsourcing that to someone
Speaker:so we won't even touch upon the newsletter. Just don't pay attention to that part
Speaker:of this podcast. I know Neal's not going to edit this out, so,
Speaker:you know, I'll accidentally book an appointment at 02:00 in the afternoon
Speaker:and then I'll just be in waiting mode all morning and all through lunch
Speaker:and then right until 02:00 p.m. Until I have that meeting
Speaker:because I'm afraid that I'll miss it. And then the rest of the day I'll
Speaker:still be in executive dysfunction, not able to do anything because I'm disappointed
Speaker:in myself for not getting more done in the morning. So I know the shame
Speaker:that goes into running a business when you have
Speaker:ADHD. I know how hard it is to
Speaker:sit there in executive dysfunction, knowing all the things that you need to
Speaker:do that you want to do and not being able to get up and just
Speaker:do it. I understand the sinking feeling of
Speaker:shame when your well meaning neurotypical loved
Speaker:ones are like, well, just do it. Just, just start.
Speaker:And it'll be so simple when you start, as if it's easy.
Speaker:There are so many challenges that go into managing ADHD, and
Speaker:one of the big ones is we thrive in structure. Structured
Speaker:environments are perfect for us. So having a nine to five can actually be really
Speaker:healthy for us. But a lot of us do not thrive
Speaker:in the nine to five ness. Like the expectations in the nine to
Speaker:five don't fit us. And also often the activities that we're doing
Speaker:every single day in the nine to five don't reflect our gifts, so it
Speaker:tends to burn us out. So what do we do? We go off and we
Speaker:start businesses where we have to create the structure, and we
Speaker:suck at that. We're not good at creating structure for ourselves. And
Speaker:because we're working on our own and because we're responsible for creating
Speaker:the structure and it's not going well, we can sometimes
Speaker:spiral a little bit out of control. We can start punishing
Speaker:ourselves and overworking. And I do this all the time. And
Speaker:here's a few ways that I have been working on becoming better at this
Speaker:myself. Now,
Speaker:better is by no means perfect, but these are
Speaker:small things that I've been doing for myself that I do coach my clients
Speaker:to do. And members of the hyperfocus membership, which is the thing
Speaker:that brought this whole topic up, because the hyper focus membership has
Speaker:been on a enrollment pause for the last
Speaker:nine months. Do you know why? Because I've been
Speaker:procrastinating, writing the f landing page. It wasn't until about
Speaker:a month ago where I got a burst of dopamine
Speaker:and my executive dysfunction decided to off for a little bit, where I
Speaker:was able to sit down and actually write out this whole
Speaker:landing page in one sitting. And I want to talk about this because
Speaker:a oftentimes people think that like, the reward
Speaker:for doing something is enough for us to be
Speaker:motivated to start it, to work on it, right? So the
Speaker:reward for finishing a landing page is what you make money
Speaker:because people are able to go to the landing page, see what you're
Speaker:selling, click the buy button, and then all of a sudden their money
Speaker:becomes your money and you have a client that didn't necessarily work for
Speaker:me for nine whole months. And I'm convinced
Speaker:that making these small tweaks in my day to
Speaker:day are what finally got me to the point where I had the
Speaker:emotional, mental and dopamine bandwidth
Speaker:to actually sit down and do this. So the number one
Speaker:thing that I've been working on in the last handful of months
Speaker:is to quit work when I'm tired, not exhausted.
Speaker:As an adhder, I am so used to sitting
Speaker:down and doing a project all in one sitting. Every single research paper
Speaker:I did in school, I did the night before, I stayed up all
Speaker:night and I wrote the paper. And usually I didn't even go
Speaker:to sleep in the morning because I didn't want to miss the class because once
Speaker:I fell asleep, then I was dead to the world. Any sewing project I ever
Speaker:did in high school, because I was really big on making costumes for my friends
Speaker:and for myself, I would do in one sitting. I would literally just put on
Speaker:all of the Lord of the Rings movies and have them on the background as
Speaker:I made these elaborate costumes. And a lot of the things that
Speaker:I do in my business, I do in one sitting. I have to. It's just
Speaker:how my brain works. And when you do things in one sitting,
Speaker:the goal is get it done at any cost, because
Speaker:usually there is a deadline that you cannot miss. If you miss that
Speaker:deadline, then none of the work counts. If you're doing a costume for
Speaker:Halloween and it's the night before Halloween and you don't finish the costume, guess what?
Speaker:You don't have a costume to wear on Halloween. I mean, certain professors in
Speaker:university, if you do not finish the paper by the time it's
Speaker:due, you do not get to submit it late. So when we
Speaker:grow up that way, when we learn that we have to get things done at
Speaker:any cost, what we train ourselves to do is work through exhaustion.
Speaker:And that's all well and good when it's about a paper
Speaker:or, you know, something silly, because usually you have some time to
Speaker:recuperate afterwards. But in a business, you don't have that.
Speaker:In a business, if you work yourself past exhaustion on a
Speaker:project, that means the next day or two,
Speaker:you're going to be useless. You're going to have a really hard
Speaker:time doing any of the daily
Speaker:tasks in your business because your dopamine is going to be completely
Speaker:flatlined. And it's really hard to train yourself out of
Speaker:this because the signal normally to stop working is you finish
Speaker:the thing or you're so exhausted you cannot put
Speaker:another two words together. Or like that time in high school when I was
Speaker:making a Disney princess costume, I accidentally
Speaker:sewed through one of my fingers on the sewing machine and I had to go
Speaker:to the emergency room. That's another sign that you need to be done. Not one
Speaker:I recommend. Is that too gruesome?
Speaker:When we quit, when we're tired, when we're just starting to slow
Speaker:down a bit, when our brains are just getting a little bit murky and things
Speaker:start taking a little longer. What we're basically doing
Speaker:is keeping a reserve of dopamine that we can utilize the next
Speaker:day. It feels like you're being lazy when you do this.
Speaker:It feels like you are being totally self
Speaker:indulgent because you've had a whole lifetime of
Speaker:programming of people calling you lazy for not starting the
Speaker:thing already. And then by the time you start doing it, well,
Speaker:you know you have to finish it. You did this to yourself. You
Speaker:procrastinated. So now you have to get it done and you have to stay up
Speaker:late and you have to punish yourself. One of the hardest lessons I've had to
Speaker:learn in the six plus years that I've run my business is that,
Speaker:yes, I set the deadlines for things in my business, but
Speaker:also those deadlines get to be flexible. And
Speaker:me missing a self imposed deadline does
Speaker:not mean that I'm a terrible person. It doesn't mean that I'm unprofessional.
Speaker:It doesn't mean that this business isn't going to work. It means that I'm a
Speaker:human, and I'm a human with ADHD. And sometimes that's just
Speaker:how we work. I did another episode a while back about how
Speaker:I use my own procrastination as a self care method to
Speaker:reduce stress. If you want to go and listen to this episode, it's episode
Speaker:77, and I break down exactly how I take different tasks,
Speaker:like high dopamine required tasks and low dopamine required
Speaker:tasks. And I always have them organized in lists so that when
Speaker:I'm having a high dopamine day, I can say, okay, awesome, I'm ready to get
Speaker:some shit done. And I look at the list of high dopamine stuff that I
Speaker:need to do, and I get to pick and choose, and I don't have to
Speaker:do any of the mental work of planning what needs to be done.
Speaker:Likewise, on days where I'm just not feeling it, I have no energy.
Speaker:My dopamine's in the gutter. I'm able to look at those low
Speaker:dopamine items and say, okay, cool, here's some really
Speaker:easily accessible things that I can absolutely get done today.
Speaker:And what this does is it gives me the ability to use my own
Speaker:procrastination to get things done that I need to get done anyway. So
Speaker:I've been quitting when I'm tired since the beginning of this
Speaker:year in 2024 and I'm convinced that
Speaker:by doing that, I have been storing up dopamine throughout the week so
Speaker:that I don't get to that point of exhaustion where I need a whole day
Speaker:to recover and where I randomly do get those
Speaker:really high dopamine spurts. And that's how I finally
Speaker:finished this damn landing page. The other aspect to this is,
Speaker:oh, what am I going to say next? Well, you'll have to keep listening to
Speaker:find out. But first, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.
Speaker:The other aspect to this is knowing when to ask for help
Speaker:and who to ask for help from. One of the most challenging bits
Speaker:about this project in particular is that I had actually hired
Speaker:someone to do it for me. I hired someone
Speaker:who had one really strong recommendation from someone that
Speaker:I know and trust. She has a really massive following on
Speaker:social media, and the work this person did for her was
Speaker:just very successful. And so when I
Speaker:approached this man to write my landing page for me and to design it and
Speaker:do all that stuff, you know, he was like, yep, absolutely.
Speaker:He went and did it, and he wrote a landing page for a completely different
Speaker:program. It's like he didn't understand any of the
Speaker:notes that I was giving him about what the hyper focus was, membership was, and
Speaker:there were just a lot of problems with it. There are a lot of really
Speaker:basic mistakes that anyone who's done any
Speaker:studies in copywriting would know not to make. And
Speaker:when I tried to work with this individual and give him feedback
Speaker:and just say, hey, you know, like, here's my feedback on the
Speaker:copy that you wrote here and how it's laid out and this and that and
Speaker:the other thing. He didn't even understand the basic copywriting terms that
Speaker:I was using. This kicked off me feeling like a complete
Speaker:failure. You know, I coach on this stuff, and I hired the wrong
Speaker:person. You know, I didn't vet him well enough. And
Speaker:also, I felt like I'd kind of gotten scammed, which basically
Speaker:I had been, because he was selling a service that he was not
Speaker:qualified to provide. So of course, this
Speaker:is for the landing page for hyperfocus. So, of course it created all this
Speaker:icky energy around the idea of working on it myself.
Speaker:And I name this not to badmouth anyone. I'm not going to name who this
Speaker:is because I want you to know that you're going to hire the wrong people.
Speaker:There are a lot of unscrupulous individuals out there who are
Speaker:going to gladly take your money to help you do a thing that they
Speaker:have no ability to help you do. And that's just how the
Speaker:world works, unfortunately. And when this happens,
Speaker:you have a couple choices. You can absolutely label yourself as
Speaker:a failure and make it all doom and gloom and
Speaker:a foretelling that you're going to fail at this business, or you can take it
Speaker:as a lesson. Now obviously, I highly recommend
Speaker:taking it as a lesson, but if you do, you can't take it
Speaker:as a lesson right away. You have to let the emotions kind of process. You
Speaker:don't let those emotions process out of you. It's gonna create this,
Speaker:like, negativity suck around this project and you're never gonna be able to get it
Speaker:done. There's also a trust element. If you hired someone to do
Speaker:something and they completely failed at it for you and you're out the
Speaker:money and you know they're no longer helping you. And
Speaker:obviously you either have a choice of doing it yourself and you haven't done it
Speaker:before or hiring someone else when, oh my God, what if I make
Speaker:the wrong decision again? You have to kind of rebuild trust in other
Speaker:people, and more importantly, you have to rebuild trust
Speaker:with yourself to know make good decisions. And here's the lesson that
Speaker:I think most ADHD business owners need to learn is that
Speaker:throwing money at a problem is not a for sure way
Speaker:to fix the problem.
Speaker:So it's absolutely ironic that in
Speaker:relaunching the hyperfocus membership, I ran into
Speaker:pretty much every ADHD obstacle in the
Speaker:book in getting the landing page up and running
Speaker:on the landing page, which, if you want to go check it out, it's weenie
Speaker:cast.com forward slash hyperfocused. And we
Speaker:also have that listed in the show notes. You'll notice that I actually call myself
Speaker:out on it. One of the big reasons I launched hyperfocus the
Speaker:membership is because I wanted there to be an accessible
Speaker:low ticket offer where folks who maybe aren't ready to work
Speaker:with me or can't afford to work with me yet can
Speaker:still get coaching, can still get support. But I also
Speaker:created it because we all need a place for accountability.
Speaker:We all need a place to go and say, oh God, guys, this
Speaker:is what's going on for me. I think I'm really it up and have everyone
Speaker:pipe up and say, no, you're not just it up. I go through
Speaker:that too. It's normal. We also need a place to go and ask for
Speaker:good referrals. I like, literally, I would not have been
Speaker:able to launch this landing page if it weren't for my team.
Speaker:And my team is incredibly ADHD. Sensitive.
Speaker:They know not to nag me about stuff because they know nagging is actually
Speaker:going to be a surefire way to prevent me from doing it even longer. Because
Speaker:when you get nagged about something creates more bad energy and
Speaker:beliefs around it. It makes you feel like you've already failed at it and it
Speaker:robs you of all the dopamine that you'll get from finishing it. This membership is
Speaker:designed to help you find people like that who understand how
Speaker:your brain works and how you can be best supported in all the
Speaker:ways that you need to be supported in your business. One of the things that
Speaker:I'm really excited to be rolling out in the early summer is to
Speaker:have guest trainers. One of the things that I'm vetting for
Speaker:when I pick these guest trainers is do they have ADHD
Speaker:friendly methodologies? I'm never going to bring someone into this
Speaker:community who's going to say, well, just do it. Just power through in
Speaker:a very neurotypical, condescending kind of way that doesn't belong
Speaker:here because that's not what's going to be useful to us. It's
Speaker:also a place where we can be reminded time and time
Speaker:again that we do not need to earn
Speaker:rest. How many times have you sat down at the dinner table with your
Speaker:spouse, your partner, with your family family and been asked,
Speaker:oh, how was your day? And you list off a gazillion things that you
Speaker:did in a way that, like subconsciously you're trying to get
Speaker:their approval. Wow, you did a lot. You deserve to be sitting
Speaker:down and having dinner and you deserve to watch some tv later, and you
Speaker:deserve to put on soft pants and just kick back on your
Speaker:couch. You earned this by working
Speaker:hard. The more I coach other ADHD business owners
Speaker:and the more I get in touch with myself and how
Speaker:I work and how I sabotage myself, the more I realize the
Speaker:biggest problem ADHD business owners have.
Speaker:Because we're ambitious, because we're hard workers, because we have this
Speaker:vision of this bigger life that we want to have, and because I carry
Speaker:a whole buttload of shame and beliefs that I'm
Speaker:lazy, that I don't work hard enough, that there's something deficient about
Speaker:me. The more I see this in myself and in my clients, the more I
Speaker:realize the biggest hurdle we need to overcome is
Speaker:learning that we do not need to earn rest. When we
Speaker:prioritize rest and recharging our brains and
Speaker:recuperating our bodies. When we prioritize that first,
Speaker:everything else becomes more successful. If you want to hear more about
Speaker:this, then go and check out episode 81, where I talk all about my favorite
Speaker:topic, which is sleep. But genuinely, if you want
Speaker:to be successful at running your business, if you want to make buckets of
Speaker:money, if you want to help thousands of people out there in the world,
Speaker:first you need to help yourself. And if you'd like a community
Speaker:around you, to support you and to remind you
Speaker:that you're normal, I mean, as normal as we get, and that
Speaker:your struggles are not unique, and to remind you that you
Speaker:deserve to actually enjoy this whole
Speaker:journey and you want some coaching from me, then I
Speaker:invite you to check out the hyper focused membership. It's designed for
Speaker:people like you and me, and I really wish I had it nine months
Speaker:ago.
Speaker:I'm gonna look that up. Hold on.
Speaker:Do turtles
Speaker:eat mosquitoes?
Speaker:Squirrel, squirrel. Squirrel, squirrel.