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Dan 1:Welcome to week seven.
Tilly:Yeah, seven.
Dan 1:Week seven. Yeah. I'm looking forward to getting to the point where we stop doing the baby's age in weeks and move on to months.
Tilly:up. What? I
Dan 1:start doing fractional years and it could be obnoxious. What we got for, what we got for lunch today. What
Tilly:chicken tikka masala, chicken.
Dan 1:we got into the chicken when
Tilly:Eat curious. Shout out. Woop woop. And we've got it with brown rice because we're healthy, aren't
Dan 1:Alfie!
Tilly:Healthy! And also whole grains help me make more milk. She is
Dan 1:factory going.
Tilly:a hungry girl. Here you go, here you go. She wants to guzzle it down.
Dan 1:Guzzle, guzzle, guzzle. Oh, I absolutely fucking hate it when I get all my foods like, non mixed and they're
Tilly:off. Piss
Dan 1:to the dog, not to me. And they're meant to be things that, you know, you mix. Because I, you know, I either try and fit them all on a fork and shove them all in my mouth, and then I can't get them all in there,
Tilly:I can't get
Dan 1:or I have to mix all my food, and mixing food doesn't look great when you're like out at a restaurant or
Tilly:my collection is like, I can't express it So, it's Do you run a
Dan 1:I would if I didn't think I could get it all on a fork. The way a kosh pie is snacked,
Tilly:a
Dan 1:it's easy to just
Tilly:So it's easy to just Yeah. dissect it.
Dan 1:If it was like, for whatever reason, decomposed, what's the word? Deconstructed. Decomposed.
Tilly:I know.
Dan 1:If it was deconstructed, I would, yeah, I'd probably mash it.
Tilly:I like to vary the different, like, levels of things I've got, the different kinds of things. Maybe sometimes I want more rice and a little bit of sauce, sometimes I want It really, saucy and you know, maybe just pure sauce.
Dan 1:Mmm.
Tilly:just pure
Dan 1:Nah. Nah.
Tilly:palate. Nah. Nah. Okay. Well, it's
Dan 1:In for a penny, in for a pound, innit? I trust, I trust the chef's got the ratios right. You know, back it.
Tilly:the sauce. Mm hmm. Well,
Dan 1:Have you?
Tilly:on What you like, doesn't it, really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Dan 1:Mm hmm. I
Tilly:Yeah. We've
Dan 1:mean, you've got it right, so that's good. Can mash
Tilly:while, so I'm not
Dan 1:Sometimes I'll just mash parts and not all.
Tilly:in the
Dan 1:But I won't ever. If I know something's meant to be combined, I will mix it. I find it irritating to try and like,
Tilly:I will admit, I find it an irritation. Trying to get two people to come up to the door first. I
Dan 1:I was laughing at you because you said, I like, I even like the smell of her breath.
Tilly:I do, I think she's got really nice breath. You don't get bad breath from your baby, I don't think. Unless, maybe, when you're poorly.
Dan 1:Maybe. Yeah.
Tilly:But, yeah, she always smells, it's almost a bit sweet, her breath. It's nice. Yeah, breathe on me.
Dan 1:I won't lie, I haven't tried to smell her breath. So I wouldn't be able to tell you whether I
Tilly:help her. Do
Dan 1:do or don't like her breath.
Tilly:you will. Yeah, now, I'll have
Dan 1:Yeah, now I'll have a little smell and be able to tell you, is it for me or not.
Tilly:I think you'll like it. If you like her head and stuff, I think you'll like her breasts. Hmm? I don't think so. Well, I guess we'll talk about this next week, then. So, my
Dan 1:Well, I guess what's happened this week then. So, my work's been pretty manic.
Tilly:I've been a joiner. I've been a
Dan 1:you've been going to different
Tilly:one group.
Dan 1:Been enjoying it. And,
Tilly:Had both our six week check ups. Yep. Doctor's visit,
Dan 1:There's something else. I've had lots of family and friends around as well.
Tilly:Yep. Met your great grandparents. Yeah,
Dan 1:Yeah.
Tilly:Which was nice, wasn't it? They're well excited to meet her. They But yeah, back to, we had our six week checks, the doctor and the health visitor, all gravy, she's put on weight, still not massively heavy, she's still just below average, which is very long.
Dan 1:yeah, I'm very excited, very excited. Because
Tilly:but Yeah, all went well. Ruth got signed off, she said I can get back to gym. Cheers. I'm very excited. I'm
Dan 1:My
Tilly:that's been pelvic floor,
Dan 1:my first pelvic floor, I can't activate my pelvic floor, There was a challenge
Tilly:how to activate my pelvic floor. Because obviously it's just short pieces and your abs aren't quite back together yet. So we've
Dan 1:telepathic, so,
Tilly:figured out how to engage them again. So it doesn't really look like I'm doing much. I'm sort of doing lots of that breath work.
Dan 1:about breast work, and then not breaking
Tilly:and then leaving.
Dan 1:tomorrow.
Tilly:So I'm not breaking a sweat, but coming tomorrow. I'm actually going to start shifting some weights. Which I'm really looking forward to. But I've really enjoyed it, just getting out first thing in the morning, and spending that hour in the gym. by myself, for myself. Yeah, this
Dan 1:is something that we need to speak about and something that we definitely should have done and haven't done and maybe we'll try and do is this element of, you know, previously there was stuff that I should have done that I didn't do that I could get away with not doing in terms of chores and stuff like that.
Tilly:Yeah.
Dan 1:Now, I feel like the list is just kind of unsurmountable in that the list is definitely longer than the time that I've got, because when you actually consider all the sort of stuff like researching how to make sure that she's developing and growing and, you know, all these sorts of factors while also trying to do all the sort of chores to keep the place clean, tidy and helpful for you. And then also do my work, which currently is, you know, longer than usual. And, then also just actually have some R& R for me. just, you know, if I was to actually try and do it all, it would definitely be 30 hours and that's obviously not gonna work in a day. And so It's kind of having that conversation between the two of you of, of coming to the table and saying, this is my prioritized list of needs, wants, and likes.
Tilly:Yeah. This is your prioritised
Dan 1:list. Now let's look at each other's agree on a
Tilly:on a fine list. find
Dan 1:things are on the sheet that you're meant to do that you may be are only in your life, but there, you know, they would be in my one. So we can come
Tilly:up with a joint
Dan 1:list.
Tilly:Yeah. and that's it.
Dan 1:do. Cause I guess you've kind of done it with Jim. You said Jim is incredibly important. I need to get to the gym. I want to go every morning.
Tilly:That's sort of my one thing I built into each day.
Dan 1:And so that's, that's resulted in me kind of adapting my day. So that, you know, you'll wake up cause I I'm sleeping during the morning because you sleep evening as it were. Cause we're still doing a sort of
Tilly:I think this all come become easy when we stop doing that. I think, you know, we're gonna try out this coming weekend.
Dan 1:Yeah. Well, yeah, cause we weren't 12 hours of sleep window. Cause currently you sleep eight till two. And then I sleep kind of like effectively three till eight. Cause
Tilly:means I could like go zoom earlier. Yeah. So I could leave the gym at six. Yeah. And that means I'm back by half seven.
Dan 1:Because currently you're waking up at like seven or half six, kind of give me baby and then be, be off to the gym. And then I have to kind of come down, get fatty ready for a walk, go out, come and walk with him. And I guess I need to work out kind of what things are my things and what things are our things. And also I had a really good conversation with. One of my colleagues from work, just kind of discussing the fact that
Tilly:I might sit around the area
Dan 1:that you just kind of have to suffer through it and he sort of discussed the fact that no, you've got, it's not going to be sunshine and roses,
Tilly:time all the
Dan 1:all the time,
Tilly:need to find a thing, some things
Dan 1:that you do just for you that you'll enjoy, but also some things that you're going to do with baby, just you and baby that you enjoy together.
Tilly:And
Dan 1:he was sort of saying that for him it used to be sometimes when his baby was a
Tilly:go to the pool and You know, he's kidding,
Dan 1:scream at him the whole hour.
Tilly:is like, I'm going to enjoy this
Dan 1:matter what.
Tilly:And just to make it, you know,
Dan 1:have his dragon
Tilly:to the pool,
Dan 1:him in. He wants him in the water, it's fine, but like 20 minutes or whatever, and it's those sorts of things I need to find out.
Tilly:And I guess I need to work out what's the thing that I do with her.
Dan 1:Yeah, so I think, yeah, we need to, we need to try and talk about that list. And that list is going to include things not just what you want to do, but also what is currently on your list. And things like, for example, hoovering was my job, purposely bought a robot vacuum, because I knew I wasn't going to do it enough. And I then need to have the discipline to make sure that I So it does actually do the job, job
Tilly:Which is
Dan 1:something that I haven't been doing and stuff like that. So, sort of a realignment chores and I think, and then put it on your whiteboard one like you've you've done like, and, you know, have split out who's like recurring not, et cetera. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. In that no way. It's all explicit and there's no time, problem. Yeah. like if no one, and we'd go like, we very rarely argue about anything because we tend to feel. Guilty that we haven't done the thing that the other person is annoyed about and that'll double down when it's actually on the whiteboard and you go, well look it's on the whiteboard but I'm I'm just angry I'm just angry with you, leave me alone.
Tilly:Yeah well, yeah, that goes both ways, but I think for the, yeah, for the morning. So things, you need your morning checklist almost. So, I guess, I guess that's where you drop the dishwasher and that would make it,
Dan 1:Bit.
Tilly:tasks.
Dan 1:Oh yeah, 100%,
Tilly:That's what I do when I'm running kitchens. I have daily cleaning schedules, weekly cleaning schedules, monthly cleaning schedules.
Dan 1:Write me a checklist, do your SOPs, treat me like a little skiving
Tilly:mean, a
Dan 1:chef,
Tilly:kitchen bible that we want, a house bible. But yeah, I do think we need to make sure we're getting things down, so we've got various other things that help keep us our head straight, because I've absolutely loved being a mum and all this, but obviously it's very all encompassing.
Dan 1:But we also need to put on things there that we want to do
Tilly:as a unit,
Dan 1:as a unit, like the three or four including the dog in some cases. And then just as me and you, so it's like, it becomes a real matrix of kind of try and craft your ideal life in terms of what are the things that you need to just do because you enjoy it for your own health. And then. What are the things that you need to do for, like, the household and the family that kind of must be done? And then, you know, how do you support your partner in doing their things? And then, how do you also do you and your partner together? And how do you do you and your partner and your baby? So you could, just,
Tilly:It's a juggling act, and I think it's going to take a while to get there. it definitely is.
Dan 1:that, you know,
Tilly:act.
Dan 1:thing that's the problem nowadays is that everyone, just including myself here, wants that convenient solution and doesn't really accept that it's got to be a very deliberate action. You've got, we've got to sit down and actually do something about it. Whereas I just want to bitch it. Alright then, so what are your highs, lows, and funnies? Sorry, I'm just trying to get ahead on the poo chat. Because every week I forget that I need to find one.
Tilly:think I. Do you want to go first
Dan 1:I think I'll go first. So highs, it's definitely been enjoyable seeing, like, My, my grandma and my, my grandparents and family kind of
Tilly:another generation. Mm. That's been
Dan 1:in having like another generation. That's been very nice. anD seeing how much it kind of means to them. Cause you always spend this whole time, you like, their I'll say it wears off. It just very quickly becomes part of your life and there are enjoyable moments. something you, were doing sense, you don't. whereas when see other people interacting with your child, it's going to make you go pause and reflect. And you kind of go, Oh
Tilly:yeah,
Dan 1:this is magical. This is amazing. Whereas kind of a lot of the time you're just kind of like, okay, this thing, that thing, next thing. And you don't have as many of those. You do have those magical moments, but you don't have them as often because you're not able to take a step back as much. very One time I my grandparents over this
Tilly:going to
Dan 1:yeah,
Tilly:called
Dan 1:we keep calling the dog Batty, and Grandmum is hurt and decides it's called Batty. Now I hope I don't get cancelled, because I know
Tilly:are you saying? What the fuck are
Dan 1:used as a gay slur! I've
Tilly:why I was going with it, I didn't want to
Dan 1:going with it! Now I'm going to use the gay slur to try and clear my name, but it'll make it worse!
Tilly:make it all work. I'm not using it as a case to
Dan 1:slur, I'm just saying that was the
Tilly:mis hearing of what I'm
Dan 1:I turn that up but now my grandma calls him batty so that's now his name for my grandma. Now if this is one of yours I'll stop but I was gonna say I quite like watching this for the followers now.
Tilly:Oh, it doesn't matter, we can have a joint one. Yeah, fine.
Dan 1:I think she recognizes you a lot more than she recognizes me because
Tilly:the food train.
Dan 1:lot more time looking at you and secondly you obviously spend a lot more time with her because now I'm back at work and stuff like that. But, like, if it's only me in the room, if you're out the room, someone else has it, she'll still spend a lot of time, like, tracing me around the room. And it's just nice to want to be loved! No, but it is, it is, yeah. And that's the thing, for the first two weeks it does, well not two weeks, but for the earlier part. mean, I've said this and it doesn't sound that great, but it does feel a bit like having a Tamagotchi on hard mode. It's kind of just, it does feel a bit like, just do this thing, do that thing, feed it, change it, keep it light. And it like, a bit more like, oh, actually this is, you know, know, it, you know, the baby recognizes me.
Tilly:it's like, you're the important person,
Dan 1:sounds very self
Tilly:explanatory, so
Dan 1:self interested, but to a degree it is, because I'm doing all this,
Tilly:don't know
Dan 1:you know, I hope you realise who I am by now.
Tilly:able to smile. Because you love them so much,
Dan 1:good.
Tilly:you want that to be reciprocated. You like, you know, am I important to you? Like, you answered me. Yeah, I agree with you. I also like the fact that she smiles back at us now. So like when you smile at her. She'll, like, smile back at you sometimes, and she'll, when she makes eye contact with you, like, you can probably have, like, communication through your faces now. yeah, That's really nice.
Dan 1:she smiles at me more with her eyes than she does like fully, like I can see sometimes she'll be moving her mouth in a kind of smiley way, but I haven't got like, I rarely get the full, the full smiles. I think you've got a few of, I think that's also to do with fact that you've obviously smiled at bit more
Tilly:I also deliberately smile at her. And you smile at
Dan 1:in general,
Tilly:do,
Dan 1:whereas I spend most of my time with her at like between the hours of 8:00 PM and two, 2:00 AM So that might not necessarily be my most,
Tilly:smile at her. No, I think you just have to be deliberate in them. Like, I'm deliberately smiling at her to get a smile. I'm absolutely manipulating the
Dan 1:I was
Tilly:Like I'm sticking out my tongue, she sticks out her tongue, because that's good for development as well. yeah, So,
Dan 1:Like, I knew, you
Tilly:so
Dan 1:people, but
Tilly:yeah, that was a big high. I think the other high was, like I said, the bump and baby group this week. That was my first sort of group I've done. Since she's been born, it's kind of nice to get more involved in the outside world. You know, for the first while you are quite cocooned, aren't you? You're quite insular. People come to see you and that's lovely, but you're not, you might go for walks, but you're not really, you know, interacting with the outside world very much. I think that's just how it is. But now we're getting to the stage where I am interacting with the outside world and becoming more involved, you know. I've already met people and it's lovely meeting other mums and their babies, you know, talking about how it's going, the struggles you're having, what's nice, what's hard. life and, you know, and it's nice to be sort of brutally honest with each other, you know, one woman was talking about our piles which I hope is not too much TMI, we're like, absolutely not, bring em on, all the pile chat, because That's the reality. of it and it's lovely to be able to share that with someone and not be like self conscious about it, or uncomfortable, because you're all just like, fuck it, we've all gone through this. I really enjoyed that on Tuesday, and I'm going to start going every weekend. There's other group, groups that I want to join, things like, you know, Massage and Sensory, and I walked over to our local library, which is, really sweet, and they actually host some classes there. So when she's older I can take her to a craft group, or board games, if she's inclined for board games. Which I'm going to go to with my mum and my niece next Friday, which will be lovely. And I was also off on time with the mums and talking about, you know, our days, and you know, our partners going back to work and things like that. We the house at least once a day, go for a walk or something. And I know that we all did that, but no one does it with anyone else. And I was like, it can get quite lonely, I imagine, know, You know, being at home. And I'm okay if you're all working from home three days out of five. So actually, I'm not, I'm only by myself with her two days a week, so it doesn't get that lonely. Like I said, it can feel quite isolating and lonely. I was like, well, if we're all going for walks, why don't we do it together? So I'm looking to hopefully start a parent walk group. I wanted to say mommy walker, but it could be dad's, I don't know, whatever, you know. And so then we all go for walks and stuff, just have a group WhatsApp and be like, okay, today we're going to go to X park or whatever, meet you there at 11, you can get a coffee, just have a little chat and a walk. And you can go somewhere, there's no pressure, but it's just, then if you want. some coffee that day. You can just go and have a little stroll to the house and have a little
Dan 1:And I think that's nice because a lot of the time you feel like trying to socialize can be quite hard because you've got this barrier, this hurdle of kind of having a child there in terms of you've got to get them ready to get out the door. You've got to get, them. What if they cry? What if they need changing? What if they need feeding? What if they need? You've got to try and do all these things. A social setting. I think a find it very overwhelming because if you're socializing with other mums. it's all pure understanding. It's like, okay, we've kind got to stop walking so I can change my baby on this bench in the middle of the park. same. Yeah, fine,
Tilly:Well, it's like the group, like, we're all just sat chatting with our baps out waiting for the baby to latch, and we're not too self conscious about it, don't matter. So what? Some of us have babies on the floor, some of have got shits on and we're whatever, cool, don't care. But, you know, we're quite lucky, we'll go most places with them, and we don't feel too self conscious about it. think you're, you get worried because you hate the idea of being an inconvenience, you? You out by you. And I think that probably weighs more on you than it does on me. I don't
Dan 1:noticed a time? I've
Tilly:think it's been an opportunity to have that, but I feel like, you know, if you were to go and see your boys and you were like, but you could only go if you brought Moonbeam. I forgot what I was saying there, but yeah, I think you would be more likely to feel that way.
Dan 1:I think it depends on what point she is. Like, I'm completely happy to kind of go. I'd be happy to go out with my, with my boys, with Moonbeam. If I got to the point that I knew that I could, a better degree of self sufficiency, and it obviously depends on what we're doing. Cause most of the time when I'm with my boys, I quite like the, the rather reckless elements of it all. Like, let's just hire a boat. And then who
Tilly:yeah, but there's going to be a lot less of that as you get older now.
Dan 1:There'll still be the, the annual, the annual retreat
Tilly:the annual treat for
Dan 1:retreat of recklessness
Tilly:Yeah, you need that. You need to have a, like, a blowout weekend.
Dan 1:where multiple of us will always come out with come back injured.
Tilly:You always
Dan 1:I didn't this
Tilly:didn't this time, Pretty bruised, and so you feel like cruises and cuts and things. Yeah. But nothing
Dan 1:Will's still been bitching about his shoulder.
Tilly:you've got to have a blowout period.
Dan 1:Guess my low, my low is probably it's this, this kind of kind of trifecta of my jaw hurting all the time, because I'm clenching all the time, because I'm stressed. About lots of things of which having to kind of balance currently being on a very demanding engagement also one of these new throws of parenting and it, be frank, my job jaw was kind of clenched. Well, I was clenching a lot more even before that. I think that's, that. I I don't know, I know, I guess
Tilly:I mean,
Dan 1:having a lot higher degree of underlying stress. that I not fortunate in that the dreams have gone. I don't know if any of I'm very happy that the nightmares of losing the baby in the sheets was in and her suffocating have gone. Because she used to wake up clambering around the bed and used to just laugh at used to be just You just laugh. laugh.
Tilly:I did, I did sometimes. I used to come for you, I used to make sure you were okay. And then I'd have a little good go.
Dan 1:So I'm very happy those have gone. They've been replaced though with the fact that I now just clench my jaw in my sleep and wake up with a very, with a sore jaw. And then combined with that is the fact that, yeah, currently I'll be kind of working quite a lot. I'll just do my sort of, my hours during the actual working day. Then kind of be with you and Moonbeam in the evening, and then when you go off to bed, Moonbeam move to I'll then work during the night shift. that means I'll be end up working Like literally maybe from 11 until two or something. So that's been quite tiring. Cause realistically I should try and catch a little naps on the, on the sofa or on the armchair.
Tilly:And hopefully once this project's calmed down right away then.
Dan 1:Yeah. And I've got to accept also that this is kind of something that I've chosen to do. Like I could just turn around and kind of say it's not possible. I mean, I kind of originally did and then said that it was, and now I can feel like I can have to and you know, there's a lesson in that.
Tilly:Yeah, so
Dan 1:So I guess that kind of trifecta of items that the jaw. The stress, the, the, the work that we're currently, it just feels like an awful lot, but it, it, it doesn't, but clear of a like the project will end. What I need to get better at doing is just also managing my own stress so that I'm not collecting so much more stress. But you were saying you were doing it as well, weren't you?
Tilly:to close my jaw a bit. I definitely feel myself doing it like, when I'm in sleep, and then I'm like, oh, why am I doing that?
Dan 1:just was sort of like,
Tilly:do sometimes, Yeah. I think part of it, for me, is for when, for so long, until literally this past week, breastfeeding was really painful for me, most of the time. But actually, for most of the time, I was just feeling, like, sort of, like, quite tense. Yeah. Like, being, like, sort of, like, tensing my jaw, and tensing my body. So I was like, oh, god, it's, you know, I don't want to stop because she needs the food, but it's fucking painful. I think my body's still quite in that mode. I Still, tend to do it when she's feeding me when it's not sore. I'm like, tensing? This is funny. but yeah, I definitely, yeah, I felt that was like tensing my jaw and stuff. is that, Is that, is that. your load?
Dan 1:Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Tilly:I'd say it was my little, I'd say I had a pretty, I think generally I had a pretty good week. You know, I think, especially the latter half of the week when I was starting to get to terms with like building it up to that little bit of structure. Like my days have fairly little structure because, you know, I get the things I want to get done, but the large part is ruled by her, which is fine. but having that little bit of structure in the morning massively helps because I'm a massive person of structure. So that's been really good this week. But I guess you know, I think I struggle when I see you struggling with it all. Yeah.
Dan 1:Yeah. So, you
Tilly:you know, because if you're someone, and you know, the first thing is, you can quite easily get into a quite negative mindset, and that's your natural way of being, and you're fully aware of that, and you, and you try and fight that, and it's fine. So it means things like, you know, when you are stressed, and things are piling up a bit, or you're tired, you quite easily go down a negative, like, tunnel, whatever, and you just keep going deeper and deeper and deeper, you know, you go down the rabbit hole.
Dan 1:Yeah.
Tilly:yOu know, I don't, and you know, I don't like seeing you like that, but I also think it's there's not always much I can do like, we can try and talk about it, and I can. Do what I can to try and support you, but I also, I, I also have to accept the fact that that is you, is part of you, and it's a journey. You, you are going on and you've got to go on, you've got to work through it and do your, I, I need to not, not be invested. My husband, we've always be invested in how you feel and want to support you, but I guess not feel it. So personally, I don't know.
Dan 1:mean, it's like this kind of thing, like just there, there'll be one thing that I know links to one thing that links to another thing that links to it. And so they're very rarely an issue, there's kind kind of a temporary downward spiral. And I, I do it actually from a practical perspective and also from an emotional perspective to a degree it, that needs to be solved that will solve this. and it's going down the road. What's bad, what's and then, okay, so this, this is the thing that that I'm mostly sold, but that also, be very about trends, and it create bit a, it does make feel negative.
Tilly:Yeah, you the thing that I struggle with is that, and this is more, I think, probably more my issue than yours, is that I want you to be having a job. I don't want to be having a job, I be having joy in this time and hopefully where this isn't that fun a lot of time I'm saying like it's very much like you need to feed her make sure she's got clean nothing and sleeping You know and also give her love but it's it's very sort of like It's neat based, isn't it? It's clearly like basic neat That's what you're fulfilling. I'm like, that's why it's been so lovely about her now. It's time to engage but if you see you're saying that, you know, you're not really enjoying it right now Well, like not a good time in life, you know, there's something we've wanted for such a long time I'm sure that's what we'll talk in this podcast about our journey I'm making my little movie. but yeah, because it, I guess, you know, it's something we've wanted and we've been prepared for and we chose to have her. I'm someone. We have very different mindsets, on what I thought I'd like to do. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just sort of going I'm sort of going, well, why can't you see the good in this? And you're, and you're, and you're, and you're going, well, you know, I don't see what or why I need to.
Dan 1:It's not just that, it's that you, you have An amazing ability to work out how to make something good, be that look at it from a different perspective, look at it across a different time period, look at it from always really trying to find the good in something. I mean, I personally don't like the idea of labeling things good and bad as well. I just get on with what the action they are and be in that moment, be it, you know, however it it is. The things kind of just are, and if you find joy in it, enjoy it. And if you don't, if you know, know, not, it's not, great, try and solve whatever the problem is and then find the next thing that you find joy in. But I think it's better, to, least if you're going to to recognize that you're bad, be better at making things good you're than ending up constantly bad, which I which can be guilty of. of. But for example, like when you're not, when something, you're going through of unenjoyment, you actually think about that period. period You think relative what you've had do to get there, Which I don't think a lot people do. lot of people are caught up in that moment going, well, this is a bit shit. you, this isn't great, but I'm so glad to be where I am, given where I was.
Tilly:Yeah, that's, that is exactly it. You know, like I said, bringing it back to the breastfeeding, when I've been sat there and it's been like, sometimes it's been excruciating. Like it's been like, you know, I wanted to cry. Yeah. And I've gone, oh God, you know, and you know, part of me wants to go, fuck this, just give a formula, and that's fine, you do want to do that, but it's not what I've wanted to choose to do. And being like, you know, sort of finding it hard to see the point in it, and like, it's just going, well, actually, like the way I look at it, like you said, is that I'm so blessed, actually.
Dan 1:It's not, it's not zoom out perspective that I struggle
Tilly:to be going through this pain. Actually that's a blessing because that means that I've have a beautiful daughter and you know, there times, well, we, we didn't know if we were gonna have that.
Dan 1:Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's that ability to zoom in and out of perspective as is made official to you, which is something that I'm not good at and can very quickly latch onto the negative and follow. the trail of negativity as well. Ugh, well, what's your funnies been? I don't know if I had
Tilly:Let's see.
Dan 1:I guess one of them was, it's not really directly her, but how grandma absolutely loved having the baby the whole
Tilly:Yeah. And my grandpa's like, oh
Dan 1:Yeah. I'd like to hold her. And then, And Moonbeam just suddenly decides she's going to start crying. And then he's like, okay, enough. weapon, and he's like, let me know what's up. I'm just this going
Tilly:Yes, and she's still crying. I was like, what do you want? And
Dan 1:no, it I've done my time. like, OK. I've done that. hold. Didn't work. I'll try again in a few Months time when she's maybe chilled out a bit more.
Tilly:No. It's not really funny but I do enjoy that she snores. baby snoring really funny. Notice how it snores.
Dan 1:No, does she?
Tilly:Particularly when she's in the carrier. I've just got her face
Dan 1:Yeah, I have read that. But it more just that. She can't breathe properly, I think.
Tilly:Funny. She just presses
Dan 1:Because she just presses her face into you. It's not that we're doing something. She loves trying to get her face into your chest as much as possible. And then she's like having to blow bubbles through your skin.
Tilly:When she, like, when we're sleeping in bed because sleeping, she's sleeping next to me in the bed. She probably into my
Dan 1:Yeah, she does that to me when she's in the carrier.
Tilly:armpit.
Dan 1:Oh, yeah. Taste. I'm
Tilly:she was absolutely very into it, and I'm like, I'm pretty sure, because you get quite sweaty, it's part, it's one part of the joyful postpartum journey, so you get quite, I think you get night sweats, you've seen it. you know, you come in and really moist, yeah, so I'm going to be dripping sweat on her face. Maybe that's what she's like when she comes back to you. Some sort of Yes.
Dan 1:yeah, sweaty and damp and, I don't really have that when I
Tilly:your intro. We can
Dan 1:of liquids all over
Tilly:I've got to try if anyone listens to this and they work for Lidl, we'd love to be sponsored by Lidl because we use all of their nappies. And maybe
Dan 1:Loopy loo loo, loo
Tilly:loo Lippie loo loo, I was about to drink her milk then. I really do feel the urge every time I meet her to give her some. Yeah. I just want to instinctively shove Yeah. it in her mouth. I want to feed her. This is thrilling.
Dan 1:right. podcast going?
Tilly:Great. my idea. Sketchy!
Dan 1:It was, and I did the work for it.
Tilly:That's how it goes.
Dan 1:I know, it's not frustrating at all
Tilly:Pass the haggle there.
Dan 1:Go on, do your intro for the shit chat.
Tilly:All the followers.
Dan 1:Oh, this good. During one of the night feeds last changes of week two. Stop me if I have done this one. Peak sleep deprivation. Opened the diaper that was just a pee diaper. Lifted her butt to change it. Liquid baby poo rocketed out her butt and sprayed all my face, clothes and hair. A bassinet. I knew had about enough sleep or shower before she woke in after feeding. I was so that I did my best a baby wipe and slept for 45 minutes covered in baby shit. My My woke up with a turmeric colored afternoon off in the the morning.
Tilly:No judgement here. I once met a guy, who on holiday, no, he shagged a girl, I think it might have been his girlfriend. He then did a little poo in the bed, while he was asleep, like a little poo in the middle. And they're both so drunk or tired that they decided they'd just sleep around his poo in the middle of the bed. That was a full grown person poo. Poo's not that bad.
Dan 1:Okay, well, I'm a caring parent but could set up a like, camelback that I could set up a a like camelback or hamster
Tilly:mean?
Dan 1:feed thing with milk for her while I'm looking after her
Tilly:was
Dan 1:because it's really like a not that engaged job. And then, it's, you kind of have to stop every 30 seconds and leave her to break for a minute. So there's a lot of like, lost time. And I'm in the middle of doing work and stuff. You know what I'm like, I like, you know, I like to just do one thing, complete it, do the next thing, complete it. and switch so that, that irritates me that I can't just put a little Camelback on a full of milk and just have a it through suck it through there. You got any? I'm a caring parent, but I know I love my crop.
Tilly:of my mum's, I need to get my own home
Dan 1:you go, I'm a caring parent but I'm annoyed that I've lost the ability to wear flip flops since I've had a child. Is that yours?
Tilly:having crocs
Dan 1:fuuuun.
Tilly:wear flip flops anymore. fall over when I wore them. It's all over, fell over. Poor English. I ripped a hole in my trousers. Fucked up my knee. She
Dan 1:saved the baby.
Tilly:it. I don't know what happened. She just watched me. Didn't do anything.
Dan 1:People just, everything's so self represented now,
Tilly:young, absorbed person. I was just
Dan 1:over. She's She probably just looks like a meth head.
Tilly:I love sitting on a damp floor with a baby in my arms.
Dan 1:have to please vote.
Tilly:I don't really look very messy. I'd have to lose a lot of weight, I think, to look messy.
Dan 1:You've got too many teeth as well, you do. Alrighty, well, we'll leave it there. Bye. Goodbye now, bye
Tilly:I think there's potatoes.