1 00:00:03,410 --> 00:00:06,460 Matt Edmundson: Welcome to this week's Crowd Church service. 2 00:00:06,910 --> 00:00:10,820 We are a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps 3 00:00:10,820 --> 00:00:13,469 us live a more meaningful life. 4 00:00:13,790 --> 00:00:18,170 We are a community, a space to explore the Christian faith and a place 5 00:00:18,170 --> 00:00:20,129 where you can contribute and grow. 6 00:00:21,139 --> 00:00:25,129 Our service will last about an hour and in a few seconds we will start 7 00:00:25,129 --> 00:00:30,729 with a time of worship after which you will meet our hosts for our service. 8 00:00:33,835 --> 00:00:38,825 After the talk, we head into Conversation Street, where we look at your stories 9 00:00:38,825 --> 00:00:43,364 and questions that you've posted in the comments throughout the live stream. 10 00:00:44,084 --> 00:00:48,625 I want to invite you to connect with us here at Crowd Church, and there 11 00:00:48,625 --> 00:00:51,815 are a few That you can do just that. 12 00:00:52,165 --> 00:00:57,334 Firstly, you can engage with crowd from any device during our live stream. 13 00:00:57,735 --> 00:01:01,464 And if you're up for it, why not invite a few friends over and 14 00:01:01,465 --> 00:01:03,724 experience the service together. 15 00:01:04,084 --> 00:01:09,235 You see, church is all about connecting with God and connecting with others. 16 00:01:09,235 --> 00:01:12,824 And one of the easiest ways for you to do that is to also join. 17 00:01:13,060 --> 00:01:19,100 One of our mid week groups where we meet online together to catch up and discover 18 00:01:19,110 --> 00:01:21,680 more about the amazingness of Christ. 19 00:01:22,210 --> 00:01:27,229 You can also subscribe to our podcast called What's The Story, where we 20 00:01:27,230 --> 00:01:31,930 deep dive into stories of faith and courage from everyday people. 21 00:01:32,859 --> 00:01:36,720 More information about all of these things that I've mentioned can 22 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,850 be found on our website at www. 23 00:01:39,850 --> 00:01:39,860 church. 24 00:01:39,860 --> 00:01:39,869 org. 25 00:01:39,870 --> 00:01:39,919 www. 26 00:01:39,919 --> 00:01:40,279 crowd. 27 00:01:40,539 --> 00:01:46,509 church or you can reach us on social media at crowd church if you're new 28 00:01:46,509 --> 00:01:49,919 to crowd or new to the christian faith and would like to know what 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,610 your next steps to take are well why not head over to our website crowd. 30 00:01:54,869 --> 00:01:58,869 church forward slash next for more details 31 00:02:02,370 --> 00:02:08,199 and now the moment you've been waiting for is here our online church service 32 00:02:08,539 --> 00:02:15,445 starts right now Now, wow, good evening and welcome to Crowd Church. 33 00:02:15,465 --> 00:02:17,635 Great to have you with us. 34 00:02:17,935 --> 00:02:21,245 I'm beside the beautiful, the talented with an amazing new haircut. 35 00:02:21,465 --> 00:02:22,394 Anna Kettle, how are we doing? 36 00:02:22,764 --> 00:02:23,984 Anna Kettle: I'm alright, thank you, yeah. 37 00:02:23,984 --> 00:02:25,174 Happy New Year everyone. 38 00:02:25,245 --> 00:02:28,174 I was just saying to Matt, it's been a while since I've done Crowd Church. 39 00:02:28,355 --> 00:02:28,595 It is. 40 00:02:28,595 --> 00:02:29,854 With one thing and another going on. 41 00:02:29,855 --> 00:02:30,381 It is. 42 00:02:30,381 --> 00:02:31,604 Matt Edmundson: Do you remember how to do it? 43 00:02:32,025 --> 00:02:35,495 Anna Kettle: Well, we'll see, won't we, in the next, in the next 50 44 00:02:35,495 --> 00:02:37,695 minutes or so, but hopefully so. 45 00:02:37,765 --> 00:02:38,335 Matt Edmundson: We'll find out. 46 00:02:38,345 --> 00:02:39,495 We'll find out, definitely. 47 00:02:39,495 --> 00:02:40,775 It's, uh, it's going to be one of those. 48 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:42,074 Well, good evening to you. 49 00:02:42,074 --> 00:02:44,715 If you are watching us live, it's great that you're with us. 50 00:02:44,755 --> 00:02:46,414 Uh, good evening, Nicola. 51 00:02:46,824 --> 00:02:50,755 Uh, we've got Miriam in the comments and, uh, new YouTuber, uh, Bamsam. 52 00:02:50,775 --> 00:02:51,355 Hi, everyone. 53 00:02:51,375 --> 00:02:51,855 I'm new. 54 00:02:52,985 --> 00:02:54,135 Greetings and salutations. 55 00:02:54,455 --> 00:02:56,095 Uh, and if you're watching us on Facebook. 56 00:02:56,730 --> 00:02:57,910 A warm welcome to you as well. 57 00:02:57,910 --> 00:02:59,070 It's great that you're here. 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,010 Uh, hopefully, like your hair lady on the left, they say. 59 00:03:05,094 --> 00:03:07,524 Anna Kettle: Just gonna pick on the fact I've got new haircut, aren't you? 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:09,260 ? No. 61 00:03:09,325 --> 00:03:10,885 Like New Year, new start. 62 00:03:10,885 --> 00:03:12,100 I, I don't really do New Year. 63 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:14,899 New do I don't really do New Year's resolutions, do you? 64 00:03:15,119 --> 00:03:15,660 No, not at all. 65 00:03:15,660 --> 00:03:17,454 Well, I don't because Definitely not. 66 00:03:17,484 --> 00:03:18,624 'cause I can't keep any of them. 67 00:03:18,624 --> 00:03:19,045 So. 68 00:03:19,049 --> 00:03:19,375 Yeah. 69 00:03:19,704 --> 00:03:21,445 I thought the year New haircut instead. 70 00:03:21,924 --> 00:03:22,284 Matt Edmundson: New Year. 71 00:03:22,290 --> 00:03:22,405 New Year. 72 00:03:22,410 --> 00:03:22,820 Easier to do. 73 00:03:23,130 --> 00:03:23,420 Yeah. 74 00:03:23,424 --> 00:03:23,484 Yeah. 75 00:03:23,484 --> 00:03:23,964 Absolutely. 76 00:03:23,969 --> 00:03:24,534 Totally new. 77 00:03:24,534 --> 00:03:25,795 Do new You do new? 78 00:03:25,795 --> 00:03:26,340 Do new you? 79 00:03:26,934 --> 00:03:27,744 Uh, no. 80 00:03:27,744 --> 00:03:29,659 We, uh, we talked about resolutions last week. 81 00:03:30,010 --> 00:03:31,060 Me and Sadaf. 82 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,530 Um, although it wasn't last week, we recorded it like three 83 00:03:34,530 --> 00:03:35,804 weeks ago, so I can't remember. 84 00:03:35,804 --> 00:03:37,129 You can't remember what you said, 85 00:03:37,129 --> 00:03:38,840 Anna Kettle: but you haven't kept it anyway. 86 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,379 Yeah, yeah, no, it's because I've already gone. 87 00:03:42,380 --> 00:03:45,019 Matt Edmundson: But no, that was actually, there's a good point about this, Anna, 88 00:03:45,019 --> 00:03:48,999 we need to, if you're joining us because of what John Harding said at Frontline 89 00:03:49,109 --> 00:03:52,290 earlier, Harding's not with us this week. 90 00:03:52,329 --> 00:03:53,299 That was last week. 91 00:03:53,934 --> 00:03:58,945 Uh, John did his talk on, uh, 2024, which was actually really, really good. 92 00:03:59,274 --> 00:04:00,024 Uh, really good. 93 00:04:00,034 --> 00:04:00,734 Evening, Andy. 94 00:04:00,765 --> 00:04:01,924 See Andy's in the comments as well. 95 00:04:02,554 --> 00:04:06,744 Uh, yeah, he, uh, he did this great talk, uh, where it's maybe not about 96 00:04:06,744 --> 00:04:10,074 resolutions, uh, maybe about something else, being a bit cryptic, but definitely 97 00:04:10,074 --> 00:04:12,545 check it out if you've not seen last week's talk with John Harding. 98 00:04:12,974 --> 00:04:17,094 I really was inspired by it, which I, that actually sounds really 99 00:04:17,495 --> 00:04:20,575 like I'm, like I'm not normally inspired by John Harding's talks. 100 00:04:21,034 --> 00:04:21,515 I am. 101 00:04:21,524 --> 00:04:22,465 He's a great speaker. 102 00:04:22,995 --> 00:04:24,255 It's like baking out of the hole. 103 00:04:25,155 --> 00:04:25,534 I don't know. 104 00:04:25,594 --> 00:04:26,455 I think I'm making it worse. 105 00:04:26,514 --> 00:04:27,384 Give me a shovel. 106 00:04:27,984 --> 00:04:29,505 Let's go back to talking about your new hairdo. 107 00:04:33,230 --> 00:04:34,010 Oh, brilliant. 108 00:04:34,020 --> 00:04:37,550 So yes, very happy new year to you if this is your first time with us this year. 109 00:04:38,290 --> 00:04:40,269 But yeah, so it has been a bit of a break for you. 110 00:04:40,269 --> 00:04:40,949 You've been away. 111 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:41,930 Yeah, it's 112 00:04:41,930 --> 00:04:45,180 Anna Kettle: been, I don't think I've done Crowd Church since like November. 113 00:04:45,460 --> 00:04:45,740 Wow. 114 00:04:45,750 --> 00:04:48,769 Just because, I don't know, December was just a really busy month for 115 00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:50,089 me with one thing or another. 116 00:04:50,089 --> 00:04:52,430 And yeah, just different things going on. 117 00:04:52,650 --> 00:04:53,130 Yeah, so 118 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:54,760 Matt Edmundson: you swapped with Sharon, didn't you? 119 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:55,670 That's right, yeah. 120 00:04:56,275 --> 00:04:58,025 And so you're on this weekend next week. 121 00:04:58,125 --> 00:04:59,415 Yeah, it's like buses. 122 00:04:59,455 --> 00:05:00,155 Yeah, exactly. 123 00:05:03,185 --> 00:05:05,925 Anna Kettle: You've had nothing of me now I'm going to be here every week because 124 00:05:05,925 --> 00:05:07,614 I'm making up on the racer that I missed. 125 00:05:08,315 --> 00:05:08,855 So there we are. 126 00:05:10,265 --> 00:05:10,605 Matt Edmundson: Wow. 127 00:05:10,605 --> 00:05:13,425 And we're all going to be better people as a result of it. 128 00:05:13,485 --> 00:05:14,025 That's for sure. 129 00:05:16,545 --> 00:05:17,735 So very warm welcome to you. 130 00:05:18,305 --> 00:05:20,825 Uh, so today let, let me tell you what's going on. 131 00:05:20,825 --> 00:05:23,110 Why don't you tell people what's going on today? 132 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:25,255 Anna Kettle: So today we've got a talk coming up. 133 00:05:25,605 --> 00:05:28,815 It's carrying on the Axe series and it's Pete Farrington that's 134 00:05:28,815 --> 00:05:29,845 speaking today, isn't it? 135 00:05:29,995 --> 00:05:31,955 It is Pete Farrington, the one and only. 136 00:05:31,985 --> 00:05:34,715 Then we'll be having a bit of a discussion on that talk afterwards. 137 00:05:34,919 --> 00:05:37,439 And, uh, with Conversation Street. 138 00:05:37,489 --> 00:05:37,789 Yep. 139 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:42,479 And, yeah, um, you get to hear me and Matt continuing this kind of banter. 140 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,830 So, what's not to love about that, everyone? 141 00:05:45,989 --> 00:05:46,460 Matt Edmundson: What's not to love? 142 00:05:46,859 --> 00:05:48,069 You see, you do remember. 143 00:05:48,359 --> 00:05:48,759 I do. 144 00:05:48,809 --> 00:05:50,049 It's just like riding a bike, isn't it? 145 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:50,469 Yeah. 146 00:05:50,469 --> 00:05:51,899 As soon as you get on, you remember everything. 147 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:52,759 Anna Kettle: Yeah, exactly. 148 00:05:52,759 --> 00:05:53,099 Yeah, yeah. 149 00:05:53,150 --> 00:05:55,559 I mean, I don't know how to do the techie side, so I leave that 150 00:05:55,569 --> 00:05:57,499 to Matt over there, but, yeah. 151 00:05:57,825 --> 00:05:58,735 Matt Edmundson: I just get up and talk. 152 00:05:59,034 --> 00:06:01,325 If I do this, uh, no, I'll show you later actually what it 153 00:06:01,344 --> 00:06:02,315 all looks like, all the text. 154 00:06:02,315 --> 00:06:03,914 A bit, a bit, a bit, it's boring. 155 00:06:04,354 --> 00:06:06,594 Um, so yeah, we've got Pete Farrington. 156 00:06:06,745 --> 00:06:10,895 Uh, and so have you been doing acts long is the question in the comments. 157 00:06:11,174 --> 00:06:14,575 Anna Kettle: We're funnily enough, we were talking about this before we came 158 00:06:14,575 --> 00:06:14,965 Matt Edmundson: live. 159 00:06:15,005 --> 00:06:16,755 We started acts when we were teenagers. 160 00:06:16,755 --> 00:06:20,504 Matt's 161 00:06:20,505 --> 00:06:23,244 Anna Kettle: beard wasn't grey when we started acts. 162 00:06:24,925 --> 00:06:27,295 We were just saying it's been quite a long series and we're 163 00:06:27,295 --> 00:06:28,555 getting towards the end of it now. 164 00:06:28,695 --> 00:06:30,305 Yeah, Nicholas has about six years. 165 00:06:30,305 --> 00:06:32,624 Yeah, five or six weeks left to go I think. 166 00:06:33,975 --> 00:06:38,344 Matt Edmundson: So we've got Keith and Peter Stephenton Green. 167 00:06:38,605 --> 00:06:40,625 Hi from Peter and Keith in the comments. 168 00:06:40,634 --> 00:06:41,555 Hi Peter, hi Keith. 169 00:06:41,795 --> 00:06:42,625 Hope you guys are well. 170 00:06:42,835 --> 00:06:43,945 They're joining us on Facebook. 171 00:06:44,405 --> 00:06:44,845 Brilliant. 172 00:06:45,055 --> 00:06:46,915 So, uh, welcome to our Facebook viewers. 173 00:06:46,915 --> 00:06:47,775 Great to have you with us. 174 00:06:48,685 --> 00:06:53,365 Uh, so yes, just to, well, before we get into the talk, uh, just, 175 00:06:53,455 --> 00:06:55,915 we got quite a few new people in the comments, which is great. 176 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:56,755 So my name is Matt. 177 00:06:56,774 --> 00:06:59,314 I'm one of the leaders here at Crowd along with Anna, who's another 178 00:06:59,314 --> 00:07:00,405 one of the leaders here at Crowd. 179 00:07:01,065 --> 00:07:05,235 Uh, and we're with you for the next, well, a little bit, like 45 minutes, I suppose. 180 00:07:05,415 --> 00:07:06,565 Um, but. 181 00:07:06,565 --> 00:07:07,055 Yeah. 182 00:07:07,385 --> 00:07:09,594 I think we've now got to the stage where we're going to do the talk. 183 00:07:09,685 --> 00:07:13,015 Anna Kettle: We have, and just to say, like, post your comments in the chat box 184 00:07:13,344 --> 00:07:16,534 as we go, like, because we'll pick up on that in the conversation afterwards. 185 00:07:16,544 --> 00:07:19,495 So yeah, any thoughts as we're rolling, just let us know. 186 00:07:19,495 --> 00:07:20,775 Any questions? 187 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:22,719 Any comments, pop them 188 00:07:22,719 --> 00:07:23,400 Matt Edmundson: in the chat bar. 189 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:26,469 Yeah, pop them in the chat, put them in the comments and we'll 190 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,450 hope we'll get to those hopefully in Conversation Street along with 191 00:07:29,450 --> 00:07:30,590 a bit of banter and a bit of fun. 192 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,659 Uh, it's just probably worth saying it for those of you, if you 193 00:07:33,659 --> 00:07:36,579 don't want to know more about us, just check out the website www. 194 00:07:36,619 --> 00:07:36,929 crowd. 195 00:07:37,090 --> 00:07:37,529 church. 196 00:07:37,529 --> 00:07:39,219 You can find us on social media at crowdchurch. 197 00:07:40,420 --> 00:07:44,870 All the information is there, uh, but that's it, so I'm going to push 198 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:47,040 that button, take the website off the screen, there we go, and I'm 199 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,140 going to push this button, and we're going to do the talk with Pete. 200 00:07:49,589 --> 00:07:51,770 Uh, grab your notebooks, grab your pens, Anna and I will 201 00:07:51,770 --> 00:07:53,569 be back in about 20 minutes. 202 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:54,030 Here we go. 203 00:07:56,509 --> 00:08:00,039 Pete Farrington: Hello crowd, so today we are going to be talking 204 00:08:00,039 --> 00:08:04,310 about Sphinxes, Judgment, Mount Vesuvius, and even Mullets. 205 00:08:05,020 --> 00:08:08,080 We're in Acts chapter 24, and I'm going to read from verse 1. 206 00:08:09,340 --> 00:08:13,759 And after five days, the high priest Ananias came down with some elders 207 00:08:13,809 --> 00:08:15,829 and a spokesman, Juan Tertullus. 208 00:08:16,499 --> 00:08:19,179 They laid before the governor their case against Paul. 209 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:24,340 And when he had been summoned, Tertullus began to accuse him, saying, Since 210 00:08:24,340 --> 00:08:29,219 through you we enjoy much peace, and since by your foresight, most excellent 211 00:08:29,219 --> 00:08:33,929 Felix, reforms are being made for this nation, in every way and everywhere 212 00:08:33,959 --> 00:08:35,959 we accept this with all gratitude. 213 00:08:37,085 --> 00:08:41,825 But to detain you no further, I beg you in your kindness to hear us briefly for 214 00:08:41,825 --> 00:08:46,834 we have found this man, Paul, a plague, one who stirs up riots among all the 215 00:08:46,834 --> 00:08:51,125 Jews throughout the whole world and is a ringleader of the sect of the nazarenes. 216 00:08:52,145 --> 00:08:55,625 He goes on to bring more false accusations against Paul, after 217 00:08:55,625 --> 00:08:57,755 which Paul makes his defense. 218 00:08:58,265 --> 00:09:03,860 And he says in verse 14, but this, I confess to you, that according to the way. 219 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:10,120 Which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything 220 00:09:10,130 --> 00:09:15,150 laid down by the law and written in the prophets, having a hope in God, 221 00:09:15,580 --> 00:09:19,720 which these men themselves accept that there will be a resurrection 222 00:09:19,770 --> 00:09:21,999 of both the just and the unjust. 223 00:09:22,539 --> 00:09:28,064 So I always take pains to have a clear conscience toward both God and man. 224 00:09:28,065 --> 00:09:32,689 Now after Paul finishes his defense, we see this in verse 22. 225 00:09:33,349 --> 00:09:37,180 But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of the way, put them off, 226 00:09:37,180 --> 00:09:41,300 saying, When Lysias the Tribune comes down, I will decide your case. 227 00:09:41,780 --> 00:09:45,329 Then he gave orders to the centurion that he should be kept in custody, 228 00:09:45,859 --> 00:09:49,569 but have some liberty, and that none of his friends should be prevented 229 00:09:49,579 --> 00:09:51,219 from attending to his needs. 230 00:09:52,030 --> 00:09:55,839 After some days, Felix came with his wife Drusilla, who was Jewish, 231 00:09:56,290 --> 00:10:00,530 and he sent for Paul, and heard him speak about faith in Christ Jesus. 232 00:10:01,790 --> 00:10:06,670 And as Paul reasoned with him about righteousness and self control and 233 00:10:06,670 --> 00:10:11,650 the coming judgment, Felix was alarmed and said, Go away for the present. 234 00:10:12,629 --> 00:10:14,540 When I get an opportunity, I will summon you. 235 00:10:15,669 --> 00:10:18,909 At the same time, he hoped that money would be given him by Paul. 236 00:10:19,470 --> 00:10:21,900 So he sent for him often and conversed with him. 237 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:26,794 When two years had elapsed, Felix was succeeded by Porcius Festus. 238 00:10:27,525 --> 00:10:31,224 And desiring to do the Jews a favour, Felix left Paul in prison. 239 00:10:32,745 --> 00:10:35,464 Now it's easy to see a passage of scripture and think, well, 240 00:10:35,564 --> 00:10:38,824 that's an interesting historical narrative, I suppose, but it's 241 00:10:38,824 --> 00:10:42,564 hard to see what relevance it has to my life or to the modern world. 242 00:10:43,914 --> 00:10:49,714 But Hebrews 4, verse 12 says this, For the word of God is living and active, it is 243 00:10:49,714 --> 00:10:54,784 sharper than any two edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit. 244 00:10:55,250 --> 00:10:59,569 of Joints and of Marrow, and Discerning the Thoughts and Intentions of the Heart. 245 00:11:00,650 --> 00:11:05,720 So I pray today that God's Word would read us, and it would read our modern 246 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,100 world, and it would pierce us to the core. 247 00:11:09,739 --> 00:11:14,040 Now it's interesting, because Paul could have used that opportunity to speak 248 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,500 with Felix and Drusilla, to plead with them for his freedom, or to protest 249 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:19,760 that the injustice he'd suffered. 250 00:11:20,645 --> 00:11:24,015 And he could have joined Tertullus in that cringeworthy flattery 251 00:11:24,015 --> 00:11:28,045 and praising the emperor for his beautiful clothes when the guy was 252 00:11:28,045 --> 00:11:29,944 in fact naked, like in Aesop's Tale. 253 00:11:31,135 --> 00:11:32,894 But Paul does nothing of the sort. 254 00:11:33,765 --> 00:11:38,544 Instead, he chooses to speak to Felix about righteousness, self 255 00:11:38,545 --> 00:11:40,775 control, and the coming judgement. 256 00:11:41,420 --> 00:11:46,670 It's a peculiar choice of words to try and win someone over with. 257 00:11:47,310 --> 00:11:50,919 So let's break this down and try and understand what Paul was saying and 258 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,930 how those three things are connected. 259 00:11:53,929 --> 00:11:55,339 So what is righteousness? 260 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,049 Well probably words would come to mind like this, Morality, 261 00:12:00,909 --> 00:12:04,649 Perfection, Purity, Light, Goodness. 262 00:12:05,649 --> 00:12:09,139 And any reasonable person will affirm and approve of all those things. 263 00:12:09,744 --> 00:12:13,185 And the opposite of which we can condemn without hesitating. 264 00:12:14,285 --> 00:12:16,854 But they're all general terms. 265 00:12:17,984 --> 00:12:21,285 And Paul moves in his reasoning from the general to the specific. 266 00:12:21,665 --> 00:12:25,535 He goes from speaking about righteousness to self control. 267 00:12:26,204 --> 00:12:30,594 And self control really has to do with a person's will and determination to 268 00:12:30,604 --> 00:12:34,785 live according to an ascribed manner, something which Felix displayed 269 00:12:34,814 --> 00:12:37,015 nothing of with his lifestyle choices. 270 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,709 It was well known that the guy took bribes and that he had seduced Drusilla 271 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,189 and that she had left her first husband, to whom she was still legally 272 00:12:46,189 --> 00:12:48,239 married, in order to marry Felix. 273 00:12:48,719 --> 00:12:50,689 So both of them were living in adultery. 274 00:12:52,189 --> 00:12:57,069 The Roman historian Tacitus described Felix as a master of cruelty and 275 00:12:57,079 --> 00:13:02,900 lust, who exercised the powers of the king with the spirit of a slave. 276 00:13:03,229 --> 00:13:04,060 It's pretty damning. 277 00:13:05,410 --> 00:13:09,270 So as we listen to Paul reason, we'd be wrong to think that this is merely an 278 00:13:09,270 --> 00:13:11,980 intellectual discussion about morality. 279 00:13:12,490 --> 00:13:16,120 With his reasoning, Paul is cutting right to the heart of the issue, 280 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:18,140 to the division of soul and spirit. 281 00:13:18,950 --> 00:13:23,119 And he didn't stop at speaking of general ideas of righteousness and goodness. 282 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,430 He's now speaking about the specific application of 283 00:13:26,430 --> 00:13:28,400 those things in Felix's life. 284 00:13:30,025 --> 00:13:33,755 Following Christ would have meant Felix giving up license to live 285 00:13:33,755 --> 00:13:35,564 according to his fleshly desires. 286 00:13:36,305 --> 00:13:39,624 It would have meant giving up the sin he loved, and it would have meant 287 00:13:40,084 --> 00:13:42,615 a total reordering of his loves. 288 00:13:44,505 --> 00:13:48,115 Now I could avoid this next part and pretend it's not there, and 289 00:13:48,115 --> 00:13:51,885 I could speak to you just like Tertullus would, but I'm not going to. 290 00:13:52,675 --> 00:13:54,735 Paul then speaks of a coming judgment. 291 00:13:55,479 --> 00:13:59,599 And we see that Felix was alarmed, and said, go away for the present. 292 00:13:59,719 --> 00:14:01,839 When I get an opportunity, I will summon you. 293 00:14:03,630 --> 00:14:05,809 We kind of have the tendency to be like that, don't we? 294 00:14:05,819 --> 00:14:09,000 We hold God at arm's length, and yet we want to keep Him close enough 295 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,280 in case we have need of Him, or He might benefit us in some way. 296 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:20,480 So Paul, this prisoner, the man on trial, tells the one with the 297 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,150 power over his life and his freedom that there is a coming judgment. 298 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Um, a little while back on Crowd, we saw that, um, the jailer, 299 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:34,939 uh, rushed to the prisoner Paul and asked him how to be saved. 300 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:36,399 That's what the gospel does. 301 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:37,959 It's a great equalizer. 302 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:40,050 It is the great equalizer. 303 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:41,770 It flips everything upside down. 304 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,620 And just as Felix was alarmed, we all have reason to be alarmed. 305 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:51,120 We all have reason to tremble. 306 00:14:52,170 --> 00:14:55,990 Only God can judge us is just not the flex that we think it is. 307 00:14:57,069 --> 00:15:00,470 Um, a little while back on Crowd, I quoted C. 308 00:15:00,470 --> 00:15:00,640 S. 309 00:15:00,660 --> 00:15:04,519 Lewis when he said that at first Christianity presents 310 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:06,380 us with terrifying facts. 311 00:15:07,250 --> 00:15:11,280 And it's those facts about Christianity that got Felix alarmed. 312 00:15:12,950 --> 00:15:17,830 An old preacher called Martin Lloyd Jones said this, Have you ever trembled? 313 00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:19,730 Have you ever been disturbed? 314 00:15:20,215 --> 00:15:21,445 Have you felt concerned? 315 00:15:21,965 --> 00:15:23,515 Have you ever become anxious? 316 00:15:23,875 --> 00:15:26,355 If not, you have never heard this gospel. 317 00:15:26,965 --> 00:15:31,715 No man can truly hear this gospel without knowing something about trembling. 318 00:15:33,825 --> 00:15:37,855 Now, as I was thinking about all of this, I was reminded of, um, the 80s 319 00:15:38,565 --> 00:15:40,905 fantasy film, The Neverending Story. 320 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:45,855 This might be a bit of a niche pop culture reference, but, um, in this film, the 321 00:15:45,855 --> 00:15:48,490 protagonist I've forgotten his name now. 322 00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:49,400 Bastion, I think. 323 00:15:50,770 --> 00:15:53,980 He's reading a book, this fantasy story, and as he's reading it he 324 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:57,840 kind of realises that he is also the protagonist in the story. 325 00:15:58,449 --> 00:15:59,130 It's a fantasy. 326 00:15:59,970 --> 00:16:03,889 And the protagonist in the story is called Atreyu. 327 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:07,189 He's a young warrior and he's tasked with defeating an evil force. 328 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:10,689 And his quest leads him to the Sphinx Gate. 329 00:16:11,930 --> 00:16:17,255 And the Sphinxes are able to see in a There's a sphinx on either side, and 330 00:16:17,255 --> 00:16:21,625 these sphinxes are able to see into a man's heart, and anybody who isn't 331 00:16:21,635 --> 00:16:25,404 found to be worthy is killed with lasers that shoot out of their eyes. 332 00:16:26,484 --> 00:16:31,115 And as Atreyu edges closer to the gate, he sees the corpses of those 333 00:16:31,115 --> 00:16:35,265 who've gone before him and been incinerated, and the words of his 334 00:16:35,285 --> 00:16:37,715 mentor are then ringing in his ears. 335 00:16:39,064 --> 00:16:39,115 Oh 336 00:16:39,165 --> 00:16:39,645 no! 337 00:16:40,085 --> 00:16:41,265 Don't start to doubt 338 00:16:41,265 --> 00:16:41,865 yourself! 339 00:16:42,095 --> 00:16:42,635 Be confident! 340 00:16:44,510 --> 00:16:47,199 And that really echoes the message of our age, doesn't it? 341 00:16:47,459 --> 00:16:49,130 Don't start to doubt yourself. 342 00:16:49,380 --> 00:16:50,360 Be confident. 343 00:16:52,254 --> 00:16:55,854 And as a child, that scene made me feel deeply uneasy. 344 00:16:56,214 --> 00:16:59,305 I loved the film, but that really, really disturbed me. 345 00:16:59,624 --> 00:17:02,314 Um, but you should go check it out, the film, it's great, it's awesome. 346 00:17:02,405 --> 00:17:06,564 It's, um, terribly cheesy, um, classic 80s fantasy. 347 00:17:06,635 --> 00:17:10,114 And the theme tune was sung by this guy with this amazing mullet. 348 00:17:10,274 --> 00:17:11,114 It's just ridiculous. 349 00:17:11,115 --> 00:17:17,645 But there was something about that scene, um, that to me hinted at something true. 350 00:17:18,089 --> 00:17:22,520 Not in fantasy, but in reality, that there would one day be a test that I would not 351 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:28,769 be able to pass, that I wouldn't find reason enough to have confidence, or 352 00:17:28,770 --> 00:17:31,060 that there might be a judgment coming. 353 00:17:33,770 --> 00:17:39,700 Now, I also, it would occasionally have dreams in which I was, like, being crushed 354 00:17:39,710 --> 00:17:47,100 by these cosmic objects, these huge, huge objects that would Um, that were just 355 00:17:47,110 --> 00:17:52,000 spinning out of control and, and about to crush me and, and they terrified me. 356 00:17:52,620 --> 00:17:58,459 But this, this feeling of not having confidence and knowing that I, uh, 357 00:17:58,789 --> 00:18:04,750 knowing that I didn't have it in me to save myself, uh, really troubled me. 358 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:07,689 Possibly, if there are any psychologists listening, you're 359 00:18:07,689 --> 00:18:09,610 probably having a great time right now. 360 00:18:10,064 --> 00:18:11,064 Tune in next time for more. 361 00:18:12,104 --> 00:18:17,804 But it might be tempting to just call this self esteem problems and to leave 362 00:18:17,804 --> 00:18:19,284 it there as if we've settled the issue. 363 00:18:20,024 --> 00:18:22,564 But low self esteem was a symptom. 364 00:18:23,174 --> 00:18:27,655 And you can find many effective ways of dealing with symptoms in the world. 365 00:18:28,084 --> 00:18:30,754 But we have never been able to treat the cause. 366 00:18:31,794 --> 00:18:34,274 Because you can feel confident, like when you've been in a certain 367 00:18:34,274 --> 00:18:36,895 environment a number of times and you know what you're doing. 368 00:18:37,405 --> 00:18:41,445 When you, you're experienced or skilled at something, or maybe when you've 369 00:18:41,445 --> 00:18:43,585 got a certain title or qualification. 370 00:18:44,355 --> 00:18:47,225 But what if all of those things were to be stripped away? 371 00:18:48,024 --> 00:18:53,704 Like we can psychologize man to the nth degree, but it is God's Word 372 00:18:53,715 --> 00:18:58,655 that truly reads us and pierces to the division of soul and of spirit. 373 00:18:59,455 --> 00:19:00,345 Like think about it. 374 00:19:00,355 --> 00:19:03,675 When did insecurity first enter the picture? 375 00:19:04,780 --> 00:19:08,020 When did fear, trembling, first enter the picture? 376 00:19:08,220 --> 00:19:11,770 We have to go all the way back to the garden in Genesis. 377 00:19:12,770 --> 00:19:16,650 It was when Adam and Eve were no longer sure of their standing before God, 378 00:19:17,329 --> 00:19:20,670 and they heard him walking in the cool of the day and they trembled and hid. 379 00:19:21,570 --> 00:19:22,120 Why? 380 00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:27,530 There hadn't been any death, no childhood trauma, there was no pain. 381 00:19:28,189 --> 00:19:31,479 From their upbringings, they were just naked in their sin. 382 00:19:32,669 --> 00:19:36,330 And we go to great, great lengths to, to try to project the appearance of 383 00:19:36,330 --> 00:19:40,280 confidence and really much of social media is used for that very purpose. 384 00:19:41,699 --> 00:19:45,550 But there's a difference between projecting an appearance of confidence 385 00:19:45,550 --> 00:19:50,799 and having a lasting, eternal certainty and hope that isn't contingent on 386 00:19:50,809 --> 00:19:54,654 material things or circumstance or the connections that you have. 387 00:19:56,945 --> 00:20:00,395 Now, when Paul was speaking of righteousness and self control, 388 00:20:01,195 --> 00:20:03,195 he wasn't being self righteous. 389 00:20:03,595 --> 00:20:06,274 He too knew what it was to be alarmed. 390 00:20:07,004 --> 00:20:10,635 On the road to Damascus, you've probably heard of this story, as he's on his 391 00:20:10,635 --> 00:20:12,845 way to go and persecute Christians. 392 00:20:13,714 --> 00:20:18,645 Jesus meets him powerfully, and it says in Acts 9, verse 6, that he, 393 00:20:18,735 --> 00:20:22,895 Paul, trembling and astonished, said, Lord, what do you want me to do? 394 00:20:25,004 --> 00:20:28,935 Just imagine being invited to a church in the first century, and your 395 00:20:28,935 --> 00:20:30,544 friends are introducing you to people. 396 00:20:30,655 --> 00:20:33,495 Oh, that's so and so, and oh, that guy over there, you see him? 397 00:20:33,764 --> 00:20:34,784 His name's Paul. 398 00:20:34,854 --> 00:20:40,244 Yeah, he used to round us Christians up, imprison us, persecute us, and kill us. 399 00:20:40,854 --> 00:20:45,034 And he even stood by in approval of the stoning of our good friend Stephen. 400 00:20:45,854 --> 00:20:46,655 And do you know what? 401 00:20:46,995 --> 00:20:48,145 Do you know what's incredible? 402 00:20:48,864 --> 00:20:51,004 That guy has confidence. 403 00:20:51,245 --> 00:20:52,374 He has a hope. 404 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:59,520 Which is insane, because if there's a coming judgment, then surely someone like 405 00:20:59,530 --> 00:21:01,419 Paul has got it coming for them, right? 406 00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:05,370 Surely he should not have even a shred of confidence. 407 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:10,139 But Paul looks to that day, and he has a hope. 408 00:21:11,179 --> 00:21:16,899 We saw in verse 15, as he's making his defense, Having a hope in God, 409 00:21:17,490 --> 00:21:21,330 that there will be a resurrection of both the just and the unjust. 410 00:21:23,340 --> 00:21:27,739 Now, it is no accident that this mention of, of hope and, and resurrection 411 00:21:27,739 --> 00:21:29,279 of both the just and the unjust. 412 00:21:29,499 --> 00:21:33,189 And then when he talks about coming judgment, those two things are just 413 00:21:33,219 --> 00:21:37,549 eight verses apart because when, when Paul spoke of resurrection, 414 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,819 he knew what will accompany it. 415 00:21:40,959 --> 00:21:47,070 Now, there are many verses in the Bible that talk about, um, Jesus coming 416 00:21:47,070 --> 00:21:49,049 in righteousness to judge the world. 417 00:21:49,470 --> 00:21:51,580 Uh, I'm just going to choose one, but there are, there are many. 418 00:21:51,580 --> 00:21:58,999 So Acts 17 verse 31 says, He, that's God, commands all people everywhere 419 00:21:58,999 --> 00:22:04,090 to repent because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in 420 00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:08,829 righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, that man being Jesus. 421 00:22:09,199 --> 00:22:14,200 And of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead. 422 00:22:15,959 --> 00:22:17,149 But Paul has hope. 423 00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:19,004 He has confidence. 424 00:22:19,914 --> 00:22:25,514 Not because he got himself a life coach or a guru, like a guru, like 425 00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:27,404 Atreyu in The NeverEnding Story. 426 00:22:28,344 --> 00:22:31,774 It wasn't because he'd repeated to himself, don't start to 427 00:22:31,774 --> 00:22:33,124 doubt yourself, be confident. 428 00:22:34,495 --> 00:22:38,955 Paul was confident because he had hidden himself in Christ. 429 00:22:40,034 --> 00:22:43,814 The source of all insecurity, alternately, comes from being 430 00:22:43,854 --> 00:22:46,185 unsure of your standing before God. 431 00:22:46,769 --> 00:22:50,639 The one on whom you depend for every breath you take. 432 00:22:51,829 --> 00:22:57,969 And conversely, the source of all hope and true confidence, not just the 433 00:22:58,259 --> 00:23:02,109 appearance of confidence, like being a good public speaker or something, but real 434 00:23:02,110 --> 00:23:07,779 certainty and assurance comes from being hidden in Christ and the righteousness 435 00:23:07,789 --> 00:23:09,569 that only He can clothe you in. 436 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:17,354 Because if you're impure or unrighteous, Which we all are, if 437 00:23:17,354 --> 00:23:19,175 we're left to it, to our own devices. 438 00:23:19,955 --> 00:23:22,635 God's presence is dangerous to you. 439 00:23:23,445 --> 00:23:26,774 And that's not because it's bad, but because it's so good. 440 00:23:27,415 --> 00:23:30,165 Like, think of it, we can think of it a bit like the sun. 441 00:23:31,564 --> 00:23:33,614 The sun is a source of life. 442 00:23:34,084 --> 00:23:36,645 We couldn't and wouldn't exist without it. 443 00:23:36,925 --> 00:23:39,124 But it is dangerous. 444 00:23:39,205 --> 00:23:41,635 You get too close, and you die. 445 00:23:42,884 --> 00:23:47,804 But Jesus Christ has made a way for us to stand in the centre, in the 446 00:23:47,814 --> 00:23:53,384 white hot heat of his glory, and enjoy it forever, and for it to be our 447 00:23:53,574 --> 00:23:56,914 greatest treasure, and our eternal joy. 448 00:23:58,634 --> 00:24:03,964 So that, that concrete hope that, that he will find, that Paul will 449 00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:10,104 find before the judge, before God, this has a direct impact on how he's 450 00:24:10,114 --> 00:24:11,894 standing before the governor now. 451 00:24:12,610 --> 00:24:15,729 He's, he's not choosing, he's not choosing flattery. 452 00:24:16,199 --> 00:24:19,649 He's not choosing to just try and, to just try and get out. 453 00:24:19,879 --> 00:24:22,600 He wants to have a clear conscience before God and man. 454 00:24:23,059 --> 00:24:24,769 He doesn't, he doesn't want to be nice. 455 00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:25,889 He wants to be loving. 456 00:24:26,219 --> 00:24:30,840 He's trying to tell Felix what he, um, what he needs to hear. 457 00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:36,340 And many accusations were brought against Paul, but he's looking to this fixed 458 00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:43,610 future date now, and he sees, like Romans 7 says, Uh, that, that Satan is the 459 00:24:43,610 --> 00:24:50,259 accuser who accuses believers before God, while Jesus is the advocate who is making 460 00:24:50,259 --> 00:24:53,120 appeals on our behalf for the father. 461 00:24:53,819 --> 00:24:57,309 And this is our sure and steady anchor of the soul. 462 00:24:59,659 --> 00:25:02,439 Um, I, I always quote C. 463 00:25:02,439 --> 00:25:02,559 S. 464 00:25:02,579 --> 00:25:03,749 Lewis and here we go again. 465 00:25:03,879 --> 00:25:09,445 Um, he, he says this wonderfully in, um, In a sermon called The 466 00:25:09,445 --> 00:25:11,965 Weight of Glory, it's one of the best things you'll ever read. 467 00:25:12,655 --> 00:25:17,844 He says this, In the end, that face, which is the delight or terror of the 468 00:25:17,844 --> 00:25:22,875 universe, must be turned upon each of us, either with one expression or 469 00:25:22,875 --> 00:25:28,065 the other, either conferring glory inexpressible or inflicting shame 470 00:25:28,125 --> 00:25:30,255 that can never be cured or disguised. 471 00:25:31,394 --> 00:25:36,124 The promise of glory is the promise, almost incredible and only possible by 472 00:25:36,124 --> 00:25:41,894 the work of Christ, that some of us, that any of us who really chooses shall 473 00:25:41,945 --> 00:25:46,994 actually survive that examination, shall find approval, shall please God. 474 00:25:47,844 --> 00:25:52,884 To please God, to be a real ingredient in the divine happiness, to be 475 00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:58,114 loved by God, not merely pitied or tolerated, but delighted in. 476 00:25:58,660 --> 00:26:03,540 As an artist delights in his work, or a father in his son, it seems 477 00:26:03,540 --> 00:26:09,520 impossible a weight of glory which our thoughts can hardly sustain. 478 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,410 But so it is. 479 00:26:12,650 --> 00:26:13,540 But so it is. 480 00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:22,019 And I could have avoided talking about judgement, but to avoid it is to 481 00:26:22,019 --> 00:26:28,325 pretend that one of the most fundamental Elements of the, the, the, the great 482 00:26:28,325 --> 00:26:30,035 story of the Bible is not there. 483 00:26:31,265 --> 00:26:36,155 And there is one more lesson here in this story with Felix that we cannot avoid. 484 00:26:37,655 --> 00:26:42,695 Felix sent Paul away and he said, oh, I'll, I'll call upon you again 485 00:26:42,995 --> 00:26:48,515 at a more convenient time when, when it suits me, don't delay. 486 00:26:49,055 --> 00:26:50,436 I'm the type of person who has. 487 00:26:51,254 --> 00:26:55,645 20 open tabs on my browser that I think I'll come back to at some point, so 488 00:26:55,645 --> 00:26:59,774 like blogs or articles that have caught my eye but I haven't, I just haven't 489 00:26:59,774 --> 00:27:04,334 gotten around to reading, or tasks on my Google Calendar, I'm terrible for 490 00:27:04,334 --> 00:27:06,915 this, I just keep moving along every day. 491 00:27:07,394 --> 00:27:11,274 Didn't get it done today but that's alright, I just just slide it across. 492 00:27:12,404 --> 00:27:15,554 I'm always gonna have tomorrow, right, and we think we're going to live forever. 493 00:27:16,555 --> 00:27:20,035 Due to technological advances, by and large, we're pretty much able to 494 00:27:20,065 --> 00:27:23,725 push the reality of death far from our minds, at least that compared 495 00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:25,394 to generations gone before us. 496 00:27:26,495 --> 00:27:31,365 It says in James 4 verse 14, you do not know what tomorrow will bring. 497 00:27:31,815 --> 00:27:33,165 What is your life? 498 00:27:33,545 --> 00:27:37,095 You are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. 499 00:27:38,824 --> 00:27:43,054 Drusilla probably thought she had more time when she was in Pompeii with her 500 00:27:43,064 --> 00:27:46,584 son Agrippa on 24th of August in 79 AD. 501 00:27:47,894 --> 00:27:51,195 She died that day in the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. 502 00:27:52,624 --> 00:27:56,294 And Felix probably thought that he had more time to enjoy his governor, 503 00:27:56,814 --> 00:28:00,044 but just two years later he was stripped of his position, of his 504 00:28:00,044 --> 00:28:06,144 title, of his influence, everything upon which his confidence rested. 505 00:28:06,830 --> 00:28:08,309 was gone in an instant. 506 00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:14,510 I'm gonna, um, just end with a quote from a guy called Paul Washer. 507 00:28:15,419 --> 00:28:19,919 He says that with one hand, God is motioning man to come to him. 508 00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:22,580 He's pleading with man to come to him. 509 00:28:23,349 --> 00:28:25,959 That's what Paul was doing with Felix, reasoning with him, 510 00:28:26,050 --> 00:28:28,270 pleading with him to come to God. 511 00:28:28,820 --> 00:28:32,899 Christ has made a way for us to stand in the white hot heat of his presence 512 00:28:32,899 --> 00:28:36,100 and his glory and his righteousness. 513 00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:42,130 With the other hand, God is holding back his wrath and soon 514 00:28:42,450 --> 00:28:44,230 he's going to drop both hands. 515 00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:47,310 So my message today is do not delay. 516 00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:52,959 Come to Christ today and clothe yourself in the, clothe yourself in the 517 00:28:52,959 --> 00:28:55,240 righteousness that he offers you freely. 518 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,610 Thanks for listening. 519 00:28:57,030 --> 00:28:57,540 Matt Edmundson: See you soon. 520 00:29:01,170 --> 00:29:02,301 Welcome back. 521 00:29:02,301 --> 00:29:05,509 Uh, thanks Pete for the talk or should we say Luigi? 522 00:29:05,980 --> 00:29:06,320 Yeah, 523 00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:09,450 Anna Kettle: I like the fact that we've moved on from talking about my hair to 524 00:29:09,860 --> 00:29:12,500 Pete's moustache, which is very special. 525 00:29:12,550 --> 00:29:14,500 It's probably the best one I've seen. 526 00:29:14,540 --> 00:29:15,160 Matt Edmundson: Yeah, it is. 527 00:29:15,569 --> 00:29:17,800 He's got a good tache as well, Pete, hasn't he? 528 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Yeah, 529 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,500 Anna Kettle: that's not half a moustache, is 530 00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:20,969 Matt Edmundson: it? 531 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:21,979 It's a good tache. 532 00:29:22,090 --> 00:29:23,719 If you're going to do it, do it like Pete. 533 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,130 Also 534 00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:28,250 Anna Kettle: a good talk as well, with a good moustache, well done, 535 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:29,060 Matt Edmundson: also a good talk. 536 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:32,590 Yeah, very good talk, uh, and we're going to get into that. 537 00:29:32,590 --> 00:29:35,399 So any questions, any of your own thoughts, put them in the comments. 538 00:29:35,399 --> 00:29:37,030 We're going to get to that in Conversation Street. 539 00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:40,390 Um, but just to, if you've joined us during the talk, if you don't 540 00:29:40,390 --> 00:29:44,580 know us, my name's Matt and this is Anna, who's just had a new hairdo, 541 00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:47,012 uh, hence the reason we're not, oh, I've just dropped a bit off my hair. 542 00:29:47,012 --> 00:29:47,139 Yeah, 543 00:29:47,140 --> 00:29:49,740 Anna Kettle: we're talking, that's why we're, uh, talking about it again. 544 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:51,910 Matt Edmundson: Absolutely. 545 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,740 Thought we'd got on from that, but no. 546 00:29:53,230 --> 00:29:55,040 We have, uh, we have, we really have. 547 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,649 So it's great that you're here, it's great that you're with us. 548 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,539 Spoiler alert, if you're watching this and waiting for the football 549 00:29:59,540 --> 00:30:08,620 results, uh, fingers in your ears now, because 0, which, um, is A 550 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:09,500 Pete Farrington: beautiful 551 00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:10,000 Anna Kettle: thing. 552 00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:12,190 If you come from Liverpool, like we both do. 553 00:30:13,670 --> 00:30:16,450 Matt Edmundson: Well, if you live in Liverpool, yeah, like we both 554 00:30:16,450 --> 00:30:20,929 do, we are beaming out of Liverpool right now and big Liverpool fan. 555 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,499 In fact, I don't know if I've told you this, I chose Liverpool University not 556 00:30:24,509 --> 00:30:27,419 because of the quality of the course, but because of the football team. 557 00:30:27,790 --> 00:30:30,810 Anna Kettle: Well, I chose Liverpool University because of the quality 558 00:30:30,810 --> 00:30:34,519 of the music scene and the club scene at the time, so there we are. 559 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:36,150 Also not because of the course. 560 00:30:36,770 --> 00:30:39,449 Matt Edmundson: It's funny what makes us choose universities, isn't it really? 561 00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:43,640 But yes, so yeah, well done Liverpool, congratulations, we're stoked. 562 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,290 Yeah. 563 00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:46,020 Yeah, it's funny. 564 00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:51,760 Let's talk about the talk, rather than the football, and the club scene of Liverpool. 565 00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:52,800 And 566 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,520 Anna Kettle: people's moustache and hair. 567 00:30:55,420 --> 00:30:58,780 You can't say we don't cover a breadth of issues here on Crowd Church. 568 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,510 Matt Edmundson: We cover all the topics, all the bases, ladies and gentlemen. 569 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,049 It's what gets covered on the church, yeah, it's brilliant. 570 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:06,500 So, Pete's talk, I've got lots of notes. 571 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:08,820 There's a couple of things that I want to jump straight into. 572 00:31:08,860 --> 00:31:09,990 Let's go into the deep end. 573 00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:11,580 I'm just going to get my glasses here to see what I wrote. 574 00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:14,280 Because I'm an old man and I need them now. 575 00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:19,375 I'm But there's a few terms that I just want to uncover a little bit 576 00:31:19,405 --> 00:31:24,395 that Pete used in case, um, in case people don't know what they mean. 577 00:31:24,795 --> 00:31:28,965 So Pete used this phrase, um, that certainty comes from being hidden 578 00:31:28,965 --> 00:31:31,085 in Christ and His righteousness. 579 00:31:31,475 --> 00:31:35,154 Uh, oh no, hidden in Christ and the righteousness He can clothe you in. 580 00:31:36,305 --> 00:31:37,835 It's quite a poetic phrase, isn't it? 581 00:31:38,265 --> 00:31:38,405 Yes. 582 00:31:38,415 --> 00:31:42,845 The hidden in Christ and the righteousness he can clothe you in. 583 00:31:43,365 --> 00:31:45,245 Let's, let's jump into that. 584 00:31:45,615 --> 00:31:49,215 What does Pete mean when he says being clothed in righteousness? 585 00:31:50,845 --> 00:31:51,155 That's a good 586 00:31:51,155 --> 00:31:51,595 Anna Kettle: question. 587 00:31:51,595 --> 00:31:55,595 Matt Edmundson: I mean, we're trying to predict what Pete meant. 588 00:31:55,595 --> 00:31:56,505 Anyone got any thoughts 589 00:31:56,505 --> 00:31:57,125 Anna Kettle: on the chat bot? 590 00:32:00,345 --> 00:32:01,714 Matt Edmundson: Put your answers in the chat, please. 591 00:32:01,715 --> 00:32:03,805 What did Pete mean when he said being clothed in righteousness? 592 00:32:04,035 --> 00:32:05,415 In fact, what does righteousness mean? 593 00:32:05,495 --> 00:32:09,115 Let's start with that because it's a term, uh, that we use a 594 00:32:09,124 --> 00:32:10,635 lot, especially in church circles. 595 00:32:10,825 --> 00:32:14,755 Um, and something that came up in this, uh, passage, righteousness and 596 00:32:14,755 --> 00:32:18,184 self control, um, Pete talks about being clothed in righteousness. 597 00:32:18,184 --> 00:32:19,615 He compared it to the judgment of God. 598 00:32:19,615 --> 00:32:19,635 So. 599 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:22,600 What does righteousness mean? 600 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,410 Have a think about that. 601 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:25,140 Again, write your answers in the comments. 602 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,420 What does it mean? 603 00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:27,999 Is that a question for me? 604 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,200 Over to our resident theologian, Anna Kettle. 605 00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:34,000 Anna Kettle: So I think righteousness, I mean, I don't know if this is technically 606 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,740 a dictionary definition, but um, to me righteousness means like the kind of, 607 00:32:40,655 --> 00:32:47,395 Perfectness of God, um, against our imperfect human nature, which is, you 608 00:32:47,395 --> 00:32:51,865 know, as Pete touched on, you know, we, we try our best, but we're still, we 609 00:32:51,865 --> 00:32:53,904 get it wrong sometimes in the Bible. 610 00:32:54,445 --> 00:32:55,455 It calls that a sin. 611 00:32:55,455 --> 00:32:56,474 And it just means. 612 00:32:56,565 --> 00:33:03,455 So, for me, God's righteousness or God's, it's like God's 613 00:33:03,455 --> 00:33:05,515 rightness, God's perfection. 614 00:33:06,115 --> 00:33:07,404 Or like that, rightness. 615 00:33:07,524 --> 00:33:08,434 Imperfect. 616 00:33:08,754 --> 00:33:09,294 Matt Edmundson: That's good. 617 00:33:09,754 --> 00:33:11,065 I do like that, God's rightness. 618 00:33:11,565 --> 00:33:12,394 It's a very good answer. 619 00:33:12,445 --> 00:33:12,934 Yeah, yeah. 620 00:33:12,934 --> 00:33:16,505 And it's important to understand this because it's a very key concept, I think, 621 00:33:16,695 --> 00:33:24,030 of Christianity that, let's say I'm, Unrighteous here and God's righteous here. 622 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,470 And I, I try and do things to, to go from being unrighteous to righteous. 623 00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:28,680 Mm-hmm. 624 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:29,100 Right. 625 00:33:29,550 --> 00:33:34,650 Um, and the Bible calls, this works, so we try and do the right 626 00:33:34,650 --> 00:33:38,610 thing at the right time to try and appease God in some way to try and 627 00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:40,170 create some level of righteousness. 628 00:33:40,170 --> 00:33:40,860 The trouble is. 629 00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:45,280 I'm never, I might go from here to here, but I'm still miles away. 630 00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:46,110 Yeah, right. 631 00:33:46,510 --> 00:33:50,800 So the, the core message of the Christian faith is, it doesn't matter what you 632 00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:53,990 have done or haven't done in your past life where righteousness is concerned. 633 00:33:54,459 --> 00:33:59,649 Um, and this was again, something that, uh, Porter, the just and the unjust, I 634 00:33:59,660 --> 00:34:01,110 think was a phrase he used in the past. 635 00:34:01,110 --> 00:34:01,810 It doesn't really matter. 636 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:07,170 What matters is no one can in their own effort attain the righteousness 637 00:34:07,230 --> 00:34:11,160 that is solely God's because we're just not that cool, unfortunately. 638 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,060 But the flip side of that story is 639 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,015 Anna Kettle: that we don't need to God offers to us for free. 640 00:34:21,175 --> 00:34:22,740 I guess it's like we, it's like we 641 00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:23,310 Matt Edmundson: practice that 642 00:34:25,140 --> 00:34:25,950 , Anna Kettle: but it's true, isn't it? 643 00:34:25,965 --> 00:34:26,296 Yeah, it is. 644 00:34:26,296 --> 00:34:26,880 Like we, we don't. 645 00:34:27,470 --> 00:34:28,730 It is unattainable. 646 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,330 It's unearnable. 647 00:34:30,330 --> 00:34:35,220 You can't work your way into God's favour, but like what an incredible 648 00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:37,310 truth that we don't have to either. 649 00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:43,630 Like so many, so much of religion is, um, based on works and good works and trying 650 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,720 hard to win God round or get God's favour. 651 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:50,460 And the whole point of the Christian gospel, the Christian 652 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:52,730 message at its core is. 653 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,320 That there's nothing you can do to earn God's favour, but he gives 654 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,970 it to you for free, if you ask 655 00:34:57,970 --> 00:34:58,270 Matt Edmundson: for it. 656 00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:58,950 Yeah. 657 00:34:59,650 --> 00:34:59,920 Yeah. 658 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,269 And it's a beautiful thing. 659 00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:02,520 It's an amazing thing. 660 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:02,940 Yeah. 661 00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:04,619 And so that's the sort of the core. 662 00:35:04,660 --> 00:35:05,839 So that's what righteousness is. 663 00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:07,530 God's rightness, God's holy standard. 664 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,969 Another way I've heard righteousness talked about is 665 00:35:11,970 --> 00:35:14,170 right standing with God, right? 666 00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:18,310 So if I am a righteous person, I have the ability to go into. 667 00:35:18,765 --> 00:35:23,655 Uh, scripture talks about this actually in quite a vivid term about boldly 668 00:35:23,675 --> 00:35:28,475 entering the throne of grace, like just going before God's throne boldly 669 00:35:28,795 --> 00:35:33,415 and confidently and with your head high, where you can do that if you're 670 00:35:33,415 --> 00:35:37,354 righteous and this is where, um, that confidence, that assurance that Pete 671 00:35:37,355 --> 00:35:38,715 was talking about comes from, right? 672 00:35:39,885 --> 00:35:42,755 If you're not righteous, it's kind of hard to stand in front of a 673 00:35:42,755 --> 00:35:45,485 holy God and be fully confident. 674 00:35:46,035 --> 00:35:51,375 Now I'm making all kinds of assumptions here, obviously, but, um, I think 675 00:35:51,375 --> 00:35:52,535 that's what Pete was talking about. 676 00:35:52,825 --> 00:35:56,105 So if that's righteousness, right, standing with God, God's rightness, 677 00:35:56,105 --> 00:35:59,895 God's holy standard, the ability to stand before God without blame. 678 00:36:01,455 --> 00:36:04,044 Um, and we can't do it, but Christ does it for us. 679 00:36:04,044 --> 00:36:05,915 We can talk more about this in a few weeks, actually. 680 00:36:06,025 --> 00:36:11,865 Um, but what does, what do you think he means when he says 681 00:36:11,865 --> 00:36:13,375 clothe yourself in righteousness? 682 00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:13,435 Thank you. 683 00:36:15,570 --> 00:36:18,780 Because it's an interesting phrase that the Bible uses on several occasions, 684 00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:20,485 especially in the Old Testament, to clothe 685 00:36:20,605 --> 00:36:20,685 Anna Kettle: yourself. 686 00:36:20,685 --> 00:36:20,805 Yes. 687 00:36:20,850 --> 00:36:23,880 Clothe yourself is like almost something like you choose to put on, isn't it? 688 00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:24,240 Mm-Hmm. 689 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,990 Like, it's like, you know, you could interchange that with cove 690 00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:29,370 yourself with the right business. 691 00:36:29,370 --> 00:36:29,430 Yeah. 692 00:36:29,435 --> 00:36:31,950 But it seems like it's a choice to put on. 693 00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:33,391 Yeah, wear it. 694 00:36:33,396 --> 00:36:33,485 Yeah. 695 00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:34,620 You don't have to. 696 00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:37,530 Um, it's quite an interesting point, isn't it? 697 00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:38,285 Yeah, it is actually. 698 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,940 You choose to, you choose to wear it or not. 699 00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:42,480 Yeah. 700 00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:44,930 Matt Edmundson: Yeah, no, it's an interesting one. 701 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:46,150 It is an interesting one. 702 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,050 Do you choose to wear God's, it's a fascinating phrase, clothe yourself, 703 00:36:51,059 --> 00:36:53,760 like, I like that because you say it's a choice and it is a choice. 704 00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:56,420 And it's a choice that we get to make, isn't it? 705 00:36:56,420 --> 00:37:00,220 To actually go Yeah, no, I'm, I need his righteousness. 706 00:37:01,015 --> 00:37:01,785 Well, you meet a lot of 707 00:37:01,785 --> 00:37:02,755 Anna Kettle: Christians, don't you? 708 00:37:03,045 --> 00:37:06,735 And people who, you know, have no faith as well, but certainly you 709 00:37:06,735 --> 00:37:10,235 can meet a lot of Christians that are a bit kind of, oh, woe is me. 710 00:37:10,235 --> 00:37:14,855 I need to be very humble and, you know, and humility is a good thing, isn't it? 711 00:37:14,924 --> 00:37:19,155 Nobody, you know, It's not a good thing to be full of yourself. 712 00:37:19,445 --> 00:37:22,885 But but this isn't about being full of yourself and confident in that way. 713 00:37:22,885 --> 00:37:26,275 Like it's not about I think Pete mentioned that in his talk that 714 00:37:26,275 --> 00:37:27,645 it's not about self confidence. 715 00:37:27,674 --> 00:37:29,015 It's about confidence in God. 716 00:37:29,015 --> 00:37:29,714 Yeah, exactly. 717 00:37:29,714 --> 00:37:32,944 So it's like an inner confidence that comes from knowing who 718 00:37:32,944 --> 00:37:34,864 you are, and how God sees you. 719 00:37:35,034 --> 00:37:35,374 Yeah. 720 00:37:35,524 --> 00:37:39,615 Um, but yeah, I think people can misinterpret that and think 721 00:37:40,545 --> 00:37:44,784 either either come across very egotistical and full of themselves. 722 00:37:44,785 --> 00:37:45,105 Yeah. 723 00:37:46,895 --> 00:37:49,575 You can meet religious people who are like, Oh, you know, I must 724 00:37:49,575 --> 00:37:51,085 become less and be very humble. 725 00:37:51,085 --> 00:37:51,865 I must be a worm. 726 00:37:51,905 --> 00:37:52,225 Yeah. 727 00:37:52,225 --> 00:37:53,085 I think that was a phrase. 728 00:37:53,645 --> 00:37:54,075 Yeah. 729 00:37:54,075 --> 00:37:54,805 It's kind of neither of 730 00:37:54,985 --> 00:37:55,415 Matt Edmundson: those things. 731 00:37:55,485 --> 00:37:55,825 Yeah. 732 00:37:55,825 --> 00:37:56,735 It's yeah. 733 00:37:56,735 --> 00:37:57,244 Yeah. 734 00:37:57,245 --> 00:37:59,964 The scripture says to not think of yourself more highly than you 735 00:37:59,964 --> 00:38:04,424 ought, uh, which doesn't, it's just an interesting phrase when 736 00:38:04,425 --> 00:38:05,795 you analyze what, what it said. 737 00:38:05,795 --> 00:38:07,015 I mean, that's the new conclusion. 738 00:38:07,015 --> 00:38:08,475 How much ought you to think of yourself? 739 00:38:08,515 --> 00:38:08,725 Yeah. 740 00:38:08,725 --> 00:38:09,335 How much? 741 00:38:09,345 --> 00:38:09,745 Yeah. 742 00:38:09,885 --> 00:38:10,745 Highly than you ought. 743 00:38:10,905 --> 00:38:12,915 So you ought to think something of yourself. 744 00:38:12,915 --> 00:38:13,205 Yeah. 745 00:38:13,810 --> 00:38:18,430 But not more highly than you should think of yourself like I am aware that as a 746 00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:23,630 person God loves me enough to die for me. 747 00:38:25,090 --> 00:38:28,430 But I mean, I would often joke I should I don't know if I 748 00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:29,770 should say this on live or not. 749 00:38:30,139 --> 00:38:32,729 But I would often joke with Dave Connolly, who's also done quite 750 00:38:32,729 --> 00:38:33,760 a lot of the talks at Crowd. 751 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,730 He was one of the founding pastors of our church. 752 00:38:36,330 --> 00:38:41,320 And he was He's just such a legend of a man, I love the bones of Dave Connolly, 753 00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:45,730 but Dave and I would often banter, and it, can I just preface everything I'm about to 754 00:38:45,730 --> 00:38:49,939 say, it was banter, it was never serious, it was just Dave and I just joking 755 00:38:49,939 --> 00:38:54,029 around, but I would often say things to Dave, like he'd say, how you getting on? 756 00:38:54,029 --> 00:38:57,240 I'd go, well, I've got to be doing alright, because I'm God's favourite, 757 00:38:57,530 --> 00:39:01,610 you know, and Dave would say to me, no, no, I'm God's favourite, and I'd 758 00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:02,980 go, no, no, no, I'm God's favourite. 759 00:39:03,130 --> 00:39:09,285 It got to the point in our debate, and I'm going back like 10 years ago, I actually 760 00:39:09,285 --> 00:39:10,885 bought the domain name godsfavourite. 761 00:39:11,085 --> 00:39:16,560 com So when you went to that, I don't own it anymore, by the way, so 762 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,910 don't go to it now, but at the time I own the domain, I bought the domain 763 00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:25,339 name and all I did was I just put a photograph of me on the website, right? 764 00:39:25,629 --> 00:39:27,379 That's, there was no text. 765 00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:29,090 It just was just a picture of me. 766 00:39:29,590 --> 00:39:32,320 And so one day I said to Dave, I said, you need to Google it. 767 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,000 Let's Google who is God's favorite. 768 00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:37,780 And this website came up and he just clicked on it and it was just a 769 00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:43,050 picture of me and he, ah, it's funny. 770 00:39:43,060 --> 00:39:46,410 Now that is called thinking of yourself more highly than you ought, especially 771 00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:47,690 if you was taking it seriously. 772 00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:49,467 That is a great example. 773 00:39:49,467 --> 00:39:53,733 I can't believe I've just admitted to that, but there you go. 774 00:39:53,733 --> 00:39:54,088 Yeah. 775 00:39:54,088 --> 00:39:58,709 Does God forgive all sins is one of the questions in the comments. 776 00:40:00,870 --> 00:40:01,530 Uh, 777 00:40:01,590 --> 00:40:02,940 Anna Kettle: well, the Bible says he does. 778 00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:03,360 Yeah. 779 00:40:03,365 --> 00:40:03,495 Yeah. 780 00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:04,980 If we confess them to him. 781 00:40:04,985 --> 00:40:05,040 Yeah. 782 00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:10,410 So I think there is that step that he doesn't automatically forgive all sins. 783 00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:15,630 I think you have to ask for forgiveness and ask him to, to, to 784 00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:17,730 clean, you know, to make you right. 785 00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:21,510 Um, but yeah, I think the Bible's clear that there's no, no sin 786 00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:22,835 that's too big for him to, Mm-Hmm. 787 00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:24,840 to clear sin is sin. 788 00:40:26,130 --> 00:40:29,820 You might fall short that much or that much, but it's all falling 789 00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:30,975 short of God's effectness. 790 00:40:31,005 --> 00:40:31,295 Yeah. 791 00:40:31,315 --> 00:40:34,680 So, yeah, I think I, I think so. 792 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:36,270 Would it, would you agree? 793 00:40:36,990 --> 00:40:37,230 Yeah, 794 00:40:37,235 --> 00:40:40,380 Matt Edmundson: I would, I, I'd maybe have a slightly different view 795 00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:45,660 in that I would say that God has forgiven all sin once and for all 796 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:47,250 with the work of Christ on the cross. 797 00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:49,350 So all sin has been forgiven. 798 00:40:49,355 --> 00:40:49,535 Mm-hmm. 799 00:40:50,565 --> 00:40:54,365 But we have to receive that forgiveness, if that makes sense, which is where 800 00:40:54,365 --> 00:40:55,555 it comes into that confession. 801 00:40:55,565 --> 00:41:00,065 So if I confess my sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us of that sin. 802 00:41:00,555 --> 00:41:04,415 Um, that's a case of me going, well, actually I need to bring that before God. 803 00:41:04,415 --> 00:41:06,414 And it's a bit like you've got. 804 00:41:07,015 --> 00:41:10,535 You know, Ben, young Ben, um, who apparently was watching earlier, 805 00:41:11,035 --> 00:41:12,035 which we were laughing about. 806 00:41:12,035 --> 00:41:13,145 There's no way Ben was watching. 807 00:41:13,285 --> 00:41:15,975 Anna Kettle: He might have watched for like a minute just 808 00:41:15,975 --> 00:41:17,215 to see what mummy was doing. 809 00:41:19,125 --> 00:41:21,775 Matt Edmundson: My kids have all grown up, but you kind of, you know, you, 810 00:41:21,965 --> 00:41:27,275 you want your kids, uh, to admit when they do something wrong and there's 811 00:41:27,275 --> 00:41:30,285 this whole, uh, I need to fully. 812 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,720 I need to be responsible. 813 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,870 I need to fully own it, which I think is a very hard message. 814 00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:41,069 Bizarrely in a world that likes to blame everybody else for where they are. 815 00:41:41,070 --> 00:41:42,340 Which is a bit slightly controversial. 816 00:41:42,340 --> 00:41:49,490 I appreciate but the level of victimhood in the current culture is just astounding 817 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,920 and our ability to blame other people for our for what's going on in life is quite. 818 00:41:55,890 --> 00:42:00,210 It's quite easy to do at the moment, um, and I struggle with that because scripture 819 00:42:00,210 --> 00:42:01,650 is all about taking responsibility. 820 00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:05,469 Now that's not to, there are genuine victims out there and it is, and 821 00:42:05,469 --> 00:42:06,900 I'm not belittling that in any way. 822 00:42:07,450 --> 00:42:10,170 And I think actually by everybody claiming to be a victim, they, 823 00:42:10,849 --> 00:42:15,160 they actually belittle actual victims, if that makes sense. 824 00:42:15,710 --> 00:42:20,625 Um, but I think you, You have to own it. 825 00:42:20,775 --> 00:42:21,785 You have to accept it. 826 00:42:21,785 --> 00:42:23,985 And you have to go, yeah, that's my bad and stand before 827 00:42:24,005 --> 00:42:25,175 God and go, that was my bad. 828 00:42:25,455 --> 00:42:28,065 And I think when you do, you can be confident that he's not going to 829 00:42:28,255 --> 00:42:31,295 smite you, which is such a good word. 830 00:42:31,394 --> 00:42:31,834 Smite. 831 00:42:33,694 --> 00:42:36,995 He's not going to smite you, but he will forgive you. 832 00:42:37,115 --> 00:42:38,745 So yeah, hopefully that's answered your question. 833 00:42:39,435 --> 00:42:42,485 Apparently, both me and Dave are wrong because Nicola's God's 834 00:42:42,485 --> 00:42:43,994 Anna Kettle: favourite. 835 00:42:43,995 --> 00:42:47,554 This could just go on and on, couldn't it? 836 00:42:47,554 --> 00:42:48,614 Matt Edmundson: Yeah, I love that. 837 00:42:48,755 --> 00:42:49,764 I do love that. 838 00:42:50,245 --> 00:42:52,725 Uh, so yeah, hopefully that answers your question about sins. 839 00:42:52,725 --> 00:42:56,125 I don't think there's anything that is beyond forgiveness except for one thing. 840 00:42:57,885 --> 00:43:01,155 There is one particular sin Scripture talks about which cannot be forgiven. 841 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:07,220 Ooh, the unforgivable sin, but now just drop that bombshell. 842 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,599 None of you watching this live stream have to worry about it. 843 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,440 I'm genuinely convinced about that. 844 00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:12,100 Yeah. 845 00:43:12,780 --> 00:43:18,070 The qualifications that you require to commit that sin are so strong and 846 00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:22,680 so onerous that I'm pretty sure that we would fall short of many of them. 847 00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:26,270 But yeah, on the whole, God forgives all our sins. 848 00:43:27,175 --> 00:43:30,125 Isn't Christia, that's a great question from Keith and Peter. 849 00:43:30,435 --> 00:43:34,764 I love the, I love how you've, uh, Keith and Peter, how, how your name 850 00:43:34,765 --> 00:43:39,874 on Facebook is just Keith and a capital N Peter, Keith and Peter. 851 00:43:39,994 --> 00:43:40,545 Steventon Green, yeah. 852 00:43:40,545 --> 00:43:42,934 Yeah, Steventon Green is such a great surname. 853 00:43:43,115 --> 00:43:45,425 Yeah, yeah, strong, strong. 854 00:43:45,755 --> 00:43:50,365 I was with some teenagers, uh, New Year's Eve. 855 00:43:50,375 --> 00:43:52,245 So we had a bunch of people around the house New Year's Eve 856 00:43:52,245 --> 00:43:53,685 and we had the Marshall twins. 857 00:43:54,690 --> 00:43:59,400 Great, she's been on Crowd, she has twin daughters and Isabella, who is 858 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,350 just lovely, 17 years old, I made some kind of comment, I can't remember 859 00:44:03,350 --> 00:44:07,095 what it was that I said, but she just looked at me and she went, valid. 860 00:44:08,675 --> 00:44:09,235 It's valid. 861 00:44:09,615 --> 00:44:13,345 I was like, that is so I'm, I'm owning that word valid, right? 862 00:44:13,825 --> 00:44:16,175 And so is Christianity centered around forgiveness? 863 00:44:16,765 --> 00:44:17,235 Valid? 864 00:44:17,555 --> 00:44:18,745 Anna Kettle: Yeah, absolutely. 865 00:44:19,614 --> 00:44:20,675 Absolutely is. 866 00:44:20,675 --> 00:44:22,984 I feel like I'm down with the news for all of us, isn't it? 867 00:44:23,064 --> 00:44:25,615 Because I feel like we all need a bit of forgiveness sometimes. 868 00:44:26,125 --> 00:44:28,155 Matt Edmundson: So yeah, yeah, absolutely. 869 00:44:28,355 --> 00:44:29,995 Forgiveness is one of those things, though, isn't it? 870 00:44:29,995 --> 00:44:32,075 It's again, you've got to ask for it. 871 00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:37,010 I think the onus, it's interesting as Christians, because there's 872 00:44:37,010 --> 00:44:38,090 two things about forgiveness. 873 00:44:38,090 --> 00:44:40,060 One, we have to ask for it for ourselves. 874 00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:43,960 But two, we have to extend it to others, even if they've not asked for it. 875 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:44,600 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 876 00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:47,039 Yeah, which is hard. 877 00:44:47,090 --> 00:44:50,549 But also, I think it's important to remember that forgiveness is not the 878 00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:54,410 same as being soft or forgetting. 879 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,980 Yeah, you know, like, I think there's some instances where you can forgive 880 00:44:57,980 --> 00:45:02,235 something, but you still might want to keep Clear boundaries with somebody 881 00:45:02,755 --> 00:45:05,595 repeatedly or, you know, there's lots of scenarios, aren't there, 882 00:45:05,595 --> 00:45:07,315 where forgiveness doesn't just mean. 883 00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:08,740 Forgetfulness. 884 00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:12,000 It's letting, yeah, it's letting go of something and it's impact on you. 885 00:45:12,260 --> 00:45:15,609 Yeah, but it's not necessarily letting it happen over and over. 886 00:45:15,610 --> 00:45:15,870 Yeah. 887 00:45:16,330 --> 00:45:16,890 Matt Edmundson: Keep, you know. 888 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:17,879 Yeah, no, it is. 889 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:18,680 Unforgiveness. 890 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,589 I've, there's a great, I don't remember who said the quote. 891 00:45:20,590 --> 00:45:24,590 Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting it to hurt the other person. 892 00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:28,880 Uh, which is complicated, but, um, yeah, there's quite a few 893 00:45:29,210 --> 00:45:32,969 actually, uh, quite a few talks on crowd already about forgiveness. 894 00:45:32,969 --> 00:45:35,520 We had one by Sharon, in fact, two, I think Sharon's in two. 895 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,139 We've had some by Jenny Taylor, really quite powerful stuff, uh, on forgiveness. 896 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,059 And, um, yeah, I think that they're great things to get your head around, but 897 00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:47,710 yes, in the short answer, Christianity is centered around forgiveness. 898 00:45:48,090 --> 00:45:49,590 Um, but again, forgiveness. 899 00:45:50,435 --> 00:45:55,575 We have to confess our sins and he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. 900 00:45:55,605 --> 00:45:55,895 Yeah. 901 00:45:55,925 --> 00:45:57,005 So God is faithful. 902 00:45:57,525 --> 00:46:00,214 It's interesting that phrase that he talks about in 1 John where 903 00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:01,895 he says, I think it's 1 isn't it? 904 00:46:01,905 --> 00:46:06,575 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, isn't it? 905 00:46:06,615 --> 00:46:11,025 And there's this element of justice in there, which is interesting because if 906 00:46:11,025 --> 00:46:15,325 I'm honest with you, if I just leave it to my emotions, there are some people. 907 00:46:17,805 --> 00:46:21,155 That if I get to heaven and find that there, I don't know how I'd feel about it. 908 00:46:21,155 --> 00:46:22,305 Do you know what I mean? 909 00:46:23,325 --> 00:46:26,715 Like, for example, slightly controversial, but let's say you 910 00:46:26,715 --> 00:46:28,125 get to heaven and Hitler's there. 911 00:46:29,045 --> 00:46:29,395 Yeah. 912 00:46:30,104 --> 00:46:34,695 It's like, is God, the scripture says, God is faithful and 913 00:46:34,705 --> 00:46:36,014 just, who forgives our sins. 914 00:46:36,014 --> 00:46:38,085 And you kind of like, well, that's really fascinating. 915 00:46:39,235 --> 00:46:39,285 Yeah. 916 00:46:40,515 --> 00:46:41,705 Really fascinating one. 917 00:46:42,085 --> 00:46:44,965 Maybe slightly too deep theologically to get into right now, but it's 918 00:46:44,965 --> 00:46:45,235 Anna Kettle: um. 919 00:46:45,365 --> 00:46:46,365 And also, we don't know. 920 00:46:47,020 --> 00:46:49,500 If Hitler asks for God's forgiveness, do we? 921 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,600 No, no, 922 00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:51,380 Matt Edmundson: we'll find out. 923 00:46:51,820 --> 00:46:52,140 Yeah. 924 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,390 We'll find out one day. 925 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,349 One for another day. 926 00:46:56,380 --> 00:46:58,600 When I'm sliding down those streets in my socks. 927 00:46:59,410 --> 00:47:01,329 That's all I want to do when I get to heaven is slide down those 928 00:47:01,330 --> 00:47:02,199 streets of gold in my socks. 929 00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:03,040 Just pointing that out. 930 00:47:03,860 --> 00:47:05,800 Um, I should do that. 931 00:47:05,810 --> 00:47:06,470 Why? 932 00:47:07,235 --> 00:47:08,255 What are you going to do when you get there? 933 00:47:08,455 --> 00:47:09,235 I don't know, 934 00:47:09,525 --> 00:47:10,658 Anna Kettle: not slide down the street 935 00:47:10,658 --> 00:47:11,323 Matt Edmundson: in my socks. 936 00:47:11,323 --> 00:47:15,093 You're going to see me do it and you're going to go, that looks like good fun. 937 00:47:15,093 --> 00:47:15,315 Why 938 00:47:15,315 --> 00:47:18,197 Anna Kettle: would you do that in heaven if you don't see that on earth? 939 00:47:18,197 --> 00:47:19,749 Won't the streets be kind of similar? 940 00:47:19,749 --> 00:47:20,193 Maybe not. 941 00:47:20,193 --> 00:47:22,444 Matt Edmundson: Well, the Bible talks about them being made of gold, doesn't it? 942 00:47:22,464 --> 00:47:25,064 And I just want to slide down those streets of gold in my socks. 943 00:47:25,620 --> 00:47:26,130 I don't know 944 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:26,779 Anna Kettle: why, just do. 945 00:47:26,780 --> 00:47:28,520 I don't know, it's probably not the first thing I'd do. 946 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,690 I haven't thought about this, this could be a whole other crowd talk, couldn't it? 947 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:35,080 What is everyone going to do 948 00:47:35,299 --> 00:47:36,100 Matt Edmundson: when they get to heaven? 949 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,349 Yeah, write it in the comments. 950 00:47:37,350 --> 00:47:38,059 What's the first thing do in heaven? 951 00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:41,939 If you get to heaven, you kind of, you know, you get to heaven, you're there. 952 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,329 What's the first thing you're going to do? 953 00:47:43,610 --> 00:47:44,959 Obviously say hi to God. 954 00:47:45,189 --> 00:47:45,479 Yeah. 955 00:47:45,579 --> 00:47:46,649 I've got a few questions for him. 956 00:47:46,649 --> 00:47:46,909 High five Jesus. 957 00:47:49,390 --> 00:47:51,010 I've got a few, it's like, God, I'm in. 958 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,470 Right, before we go any further, I've got these questions that need 959 00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:54,650 Anna Kettle: answered. 960 00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:55,467 I've got the best. 961 00:47:55,467 --> 00:47:57,480 These are all the things I don't understand, God. 962 00:47:58,030 --> 00:47:58,480 Matt Edmundson: Yeah. 963 00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,729 Yeah, absolutely. 964 00:48:00,979 --> 00:48:02,160 It's going to be fascinating, heaven. 965 00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:03,320 I can't wait to get there. 966 00:48:04,450 --> 00:48:05,430 Still, enjoy living though. 967 00:48:05,859 --> 00:48:06,779 Yeah, yeah. 968 00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:07,169 Anna Kettle: Don't go too 969 00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:07,670 Matt Edmundson: soon. 970 00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:08,770 No, no, not at all. 971 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,260 So, uh, what were we talking about before we sort of got 972 00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:14,320 sidetracked a little bit there? 973 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:14,960 Um. 974 00:48:16,015 --> 00:48:16,725 Pete's Talk. 975 00:48:16,785 --> 00:48:17,715 Pete's Talk, that's right. 976 00:48:17,745 --> 00:48:18,904 And so Pete's Talk. 977 00:48:18,904 --> 00:48:19,735 And Pete's Moustache. 978 00:48:20,115 --> 00:48:21,035 Pete's Moustache. 979 00:48:23,875 --> 00:48:25,865 Uh, Nicola wants a pillow fight with Peter. 980 00:48:27,815 --> 00:48:31,235 Are we talking Nicola about the Apollo, uh, the Apollo, the Apostle Peter, 981 00:48:31,235 --> 00:48:34,734 I don't know who the Apollo Peter is, uh, the Apostle Peter, that's 982 00:48:34,735 --> 00:48:37,454 actually, that's quite a good idea, I want a pillow fight with, or are you 983 00:48:37,454 --> 00:48:40,774 talking like Pete Farrington and his moustache, the talk, because we could 984 00:48:40,775 --> 00:48:42,155 probably arrange that ahead of time. 985 00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:43,660 I reckon she's talking about heaven. 986 00:48:43,740 --> 00:48:43,940 I don't know. 987 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,390 Maybe, who knows. 988 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,230 Um, so, uh, yeah, what did, what else did Pete talk about? 989 00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:50,430 He talked about righteousness. 990 00:48:50,779 --> 00:48:55,859 Um, and then he talked about, um, certainty and where 991 00:48:55,859 --> 00:48:57,180 does insecurity come from? 992 00:48:57,540 --> 00:48:58,869 Anna Kettle: Yeah, that was interesting, wasn't it? 993 00:48:59,329 --> 00:49:00,644 The whole idea that. 994 00:49:01,595 --> 00:49:05,965 Really, you can have a certain amount of confidence, like, because you've 995 00:49:05,965 --> 00:49:09,375 done something, like we feel fairly confident sitting in front of this 996 00:49:09,375 --> 00:49:12,965 camera, but it's because we've done it lots of times before, and that's 997 00:49:12,975 --> 00:49:15,685 not, that's different, isn't it? 998 00:49:15,715 --> 00:49:19,855 A skill based confidence is finite, whereas there's a confidence that comes 999 00:49:19,855 --> 00:49:25,775 from God that's like supernatural, that like goes beyond what you can actually do 1000 00:49:28,315 --> 00:49:28,875 Matt Edmundson: Yeah, super 1001 00:49:28,875 --> 00:49:29,405 Anna Kettle: powerful. 1002 00:49:29,555 --> 00:49:31,695 Yeah, yeah, I found that really interesting point. 1003 00:49:31,955 --> 00:49:33,125 Matt Edmundson: Yeah, I love that. 1004 00:49:33,125 --> 00:49:36,314 There's a skill based confidence, but then there's a God based confidence. 1005 00:49:37,035 --> 00:49:39,095 And it's that, again, that assurance, isn't it? 1006 00:49:39,105 --> 00:49:43,445 That, uh, that it, the words the Bible uses like assurance and confidence. 1007 00:49:44,835 --> 00:49:48,935 The ability to be right with God, to know that you are forgiven. 1008 00:49:50,955 --> 00:49:51,355 Yeah. 1009 00:49:51,565 --> 00:49:53,575 I think there's a confidence that comes with that. 1010 00:49:54,220 --> 00:49:54,750 Hope. 1011 00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:57,810 I think another word for confidence is hope in a lot of ways, isn't it? 1012 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,489 So speaking as a church warden in the Diocese of Europe in Spain, brilliant 1013 00:50:04,489 --> 00:50:07,779 service and talk, love the banter. 1014 00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:07,820 Very 1015 00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:08,000 Anna Kettle: cool. 1016 00:50:08,189 --> 00:50:10,420 I love the fact that you're watching from Spain as well. 1017 00:50:10,499 --> 00:50:10,879 Yeah. 1018 00:50:10,890 --> 00:50:11,019 Do 1019 00:50:11,019 --> 00:50:11,780 Matt Edmundson: you speak Spanish? 1020 00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:13,900 Mmm. 1021 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,540 Could you do a greeting in Spanish? 1022 00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:15,690 Not 1023 00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:16,430 Anna Kettle: very much. 1024 00:50:16,430 --> 00:50:20,012 I do actually have Spanish relatives. 1025 00:50:20,012 --> 00:50:20,800 Do you? 1026 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:21,750 Oh yeah, with Andy. 1027 00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:24,910 Yeah, my husband's sister is married to Spanish. 1028 00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:30,280 Guys, so yeah, we have Spanish cousins in our family, but no, I'm 1029 00:50:30,380 --> 00:50:34,030 the person who's like a bit ignorant, doesn't really speak any Spanish, so 1030 00:50:34,660 --> 00:50:35,210 Matt Edmundson: yeah. 1031 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:40,610 If it was French I'd be okay, but Spanish, I need my wife here to do the Spanish, 1032 00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:43,069 but it's great that you're here, great that you're joining us from Spain, 1033 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,539 that's what I love about the internet. 1034 00:50:45,110 --> 00:50:48,460 Yeah, I do love that about the internet, people from all over the world watch it. 1035 00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:51,980 So, uh, well there's no Pontins nowadays. 1036 00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:54,719 So Haven is one of the only options, I guess, Nicola. 1037 00:50:55,220 --> 00:50:55,700 Oh, when I get to, 1038 00:50:55,700 --> 00:51:00,379 Anna Kettle: sorry, 1039 00:51:00,379 --> 00:51:01,500 Matt Edmundson: I've just seen that in the comments. 1040 00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:08,030 If you're, if you're not watching on YouTube, uh, so Nicola put in 1041 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,300 the comments, when we're talking about the pillar fight with Peter, 1042 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,680 she put, when I get to Haven. 1043 00:51:12,355 --> 00:51:16,225 And so as a reply, well, there's no Pontins nowadays, so Haven 1044 00:51:16,225 --> 00:51:20,305 is one of the only options, I guess, which is a funny response. 1045 00:51:20,344 --> 00:51:22,955 So, uh, I've loved connecting tonight. 1046 00:51:22,955 --> 00:51:26,555 Where does our journey through Acts take us next? 1047 00:51:26,855 --> 00:51:28,135 How do we connect again? 1048 00:51:28,395 --> 00:51:32,115 Is there any stuff you do in the week as a church? 1049 00:51:33,085 --> 00:51:34,951 Dude, has someone prompted you to ask these questions? 1050 00:51:34,951 --> 00:51:35,090 Yeah, 1051 00:51:35,090 --> 00:51:38,304 Anna Kettle: I was going to say, that's almost like a planted question, isn't it? 1052 00:51:38,305 --> 00:51:40,225 Like, we didn't pay this guy to say that. 1053 00:51:40,225 --> 00:51:41,855 That's awesome. 1054 00:51:41,855 --> 00:51:42,305 We don't 1055 00:51:42,305 --> 00:51:43,257 Matt Edmundson: have a budget. 1056 00:51:43,257 --> 00:51:44,165 Yeah, that's brilliant. 1057 00:51:44,184 --> 00:51:44,874 I love that. 1058 00:51:44,885 --> 00:51:47,834 In fact, uh, that's, let's just go through those questions. 1059 00:51:47,835 --> 00:51:50,055 So where do I, where does our Journey of Acts take us? 1060 00:51:50,304 --> 00:51:51,865 Well, next week, you and I are hosting again. 1061 00:51:52,095 --> 00:51:52,385 Yeah. 1062 00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:55,950 You know, like, like buses, you've been away, now you're back. 1063 00:51:56,370 --> 00:51:57,460 Anna Kettle: Now I'm paying my penance. 1064 00:51:57,460 --> 00:51:58,140 Can't, can't 1065 00:51:58,140 --> 00:51:58,620 Matt Edmundson: get rid of you now. 1066 00:51:58,620 --> 00:52:00,730 Now I'm paying my penance. 1067 00:52:00,730 --> 00:52:03,130 Yeah, absolutely. 1068 00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:05,630 Uh, so Anna and I will be back next week. 1069 00:52:05,729 --> 00:52:08,180 Uh, oh, I could tell you who's doing the talk next week. 1070 00:52:08,350 --> 00:52:10,629 Uh, why don't you chat away while I figure that out. 1071 00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:12,024 Anna Kettle: There you go. 1072 00:52:12,024 --> 00:52:13,360 Are you practicing your Spanish now? 1073 00:52:13,370 --> 00:52:13,620 Yeah. 1074 00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:14,890 Matt Edmundson: Somebody's speaking Spanish. 1075 00:52:15,330 --> 00:52:16,560 Oh, on the, on the comment. 1076 00:52:16,850 --> 00:52:20,115 It's not just you just going, hola, como estas? 1077 00:52:20,115 --> 00:52:20,369 Yeah. 1078 00:52:21,540 --> 00:52:28,350 So, next week we have, uh, oh, wrong one, it's, yeah, like I say, 1079 00:52:28,350 --> 00:52:30,780 you and I hosting, we have Dan Orange, that's right, Dan Orange. 1080 00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:31,489 Ah, it's 1081 00:52:31,489 --> 00:52:34,020 Anna Kettle: Dan's first talk next week, yeah, she'll be super cool, 1082 00:52:34,580 --> 00:52:34,820 Matt Edmundson: yeah. 1083 00:52:34,830 --> 00:52:38,309 So Dan is one of the regular hosts on Crowd, and when I came to the 1084 00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:40,200 building, because where the studio is. 1085 00:52:41,025 --> 00:52:44,725 I couldn't get into it because Dan was already here, his van was outside and 1086 00:52:44,725 --> 00:52:46,485 he'd locked the door from the inside. 1087 00:52:46,545 --> 00:52:48,032 He'd locked you out of your own building. 1088 00:52:48,032 --> 00:52:50,385 He'd locked me out of my own building, little tyke. 1089 00:52:50,845 --> 00:52:54,385 And so, he was recording the talk, because he's a little bit behind, 1090 00:52:54,385 --> 00:52:57,105 bless him, but he did record the talk today for next week. 1091 00:52:57,915 --> 00:52:59,265 So he's carrying on with Acts. 1092 00:52:59,265 --> 00:53:02,785 He's one of the hosts normally, but we've let him loose and he's going to do a talk, 1093 00:53:02,785 --> 00:53:04,835 so we're going to sit in judgment of Dan. 1094 00:53:04,845 --> 00:53:06,385 I mean, we were talking about judgment earlier on. 1095 00:53:06,385 --> 00:53:07,925 We're going to sit and judge Dan's talk 1096 00:53:07,925 --> 00:53:08,175 Anna Kettle: now, aren't we? 1097 00:53:08,235 --> 00:53:09,674 Oh, I'm sure it'll be great, Dan. 1098 00:53:12,325 --> 00:53:12,955 Matt Edmundson: We'll find out. 1099 00:53:12,985 --> 00:53:13,884 Dun, dun, dun. 1100 00:53:13,884 --> 00:53:16,815 Join us next week as we judge Dan's talk. 1101 00:53:17,385 --> 00:53:19,315 Um, so yeah, that's where it takes us next week. 1102 00:53:19,325 --> 00:53:23,775 We've got about five more weeks left in the book of Acts. 1103 00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:26,710 So, we are coming to the end, finally. 1104 00:53:27,140 --> 00:53:29,490 Uh, I mean, we talked about how we've been doing this for years. 1105 00:53:29,730 --> 00:53:31,170 It's been over a year, I think, now. 1106 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,880 I think it's been, 1107 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,719 Anna Kettle: yeah, it feels like a long 1108 00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:34,150 Matt Edmundson: time. 1109 00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:37,670 We've been, no one anticipated it being this long when we started out in Acts. 1110 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,989 Anna Kettle: No, there's just, it's quite a long book, isn't 1111 00:53:39,989 --> 00:53:40,139 Matt Edmundson: it? 1112 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,449 There's a lot in there, so, um. 1113 00:53:42,450 --> 00:53:43,110 Lots of talks in Acts. 1114 00:53:43,110 --> 00:53:44,110 Yeah, lots of talks in Acts. 1115 00:53:44,110 --> 00:53:47,340 So, we've got about five more weeks left in the book of Acts. 1116 00:53:47,350 --> 00:53:50,370 Then we are starting a brand new series called 1117 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,880 Anna Kettle: I can't remember. 1118 00:53:55,090 --> 00:53:56,220 I can't remember what it's called. 1119 00:53:56,220 --> 00:54:00,340 He told me just before, but we're so slick tonight. 1120 00:54:00,410 --> 00:54:03,899 Like Matt's like Googling on his phone what he's speaking 1121 00:54:03,899 --> 00:54:05,383 next week and I can't remember. 1122 00:54:05,383 --> 00:54:06,729 Matt Edmundson: Yeah, you can't remember. 1123 00:54:06,729 --> 00:54:10,409 So we are starting a brand new series called Becoming Whole. 1124 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:11,120 Uh, 1125 00:54:12,270 --> 00:54:13,570 Anna Kettle: Becoming Whole. 1126 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,245 That was what I was meant to say. 1127 00:54:17,245 --> 00:54:21,630 Matt Edmundson: Oh, you can tell she's been away for a little while. 1128 00:54:21,790 --> 00:54:22,580 Just key information. 1129 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,569 Yeah, let's 1130 00:54:23,569 --> 00:54:25,699 Anna Kettle: not pretend it was slick before we went 1131 00:54:25,699 --> 00:54:26,169 Matt Edmundson: away. 1132 00:54:26,170 --> 00:54:28,029 To the height of professionalism is what we are. 1133 00:54:28,689 --> 00:54:30,150 So yes, Becoming Whole. 1134 00:54:30,170 --> 00:54:34,290 We are starting that whole conversation about, uh, what it means to be whole, to 1135 00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:35,980 be fulfilled and all that sort of stuff. 1136 00:54:36,510 --> 00:54:39,379 Um, and we are looking at five. 1137 00:54:39,930 --> 00:54:44,800 Key areas of wholeness that scripture talks about, um, I will do the talk. 1138 00:54:45,975 --> 00:54:52,015 On the 18th of Feb, I'm doing that talk, introducing the series, um, so yeah, we've 1139 00:54:52,015 --> 00:54:53,385 got a whole bunch of stuff planned there. 1140 00:54:53,385 --> 00:54:56,185 I don't know how, it's probably going to be a series, which lasts 10 months 1141 00:54:56,215 --> 00:54:59,554 because we never do anything that lasts us a few weeks, let's just be real. 1142 00:55:00,775 --> 00:55:04,675 But if it lasts 8 be about half the length of our Axe series. 1143 00:55:04,675 --> 00:55:05,095 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 1144 00:55:05,535 --> 00:55:08,945 And it's going to cover lots of ground, isn't it, like spiritual 1145 00:55:08,945 --> 00:55:11,701 wholeness, physical wholeness, mental, 1146 00:55:11,701 --> 00:55:13,339 Matt Edmundson: emotional, yeah. 1147 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,650 We're going to get into that, relationships, money, 1148 00:55:16,110 --> 00:55:17,416 Anna Kettle: yeah, it's going to cover 1149 00:55:17,416 --> 00:55:19,500 Matt Edmundson: a lot of stuff, yeah, we're going to get into a whole bunch 1150 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:21,630 of stuff, yeah, it's going to be good, uh, from the point of home, so it's 1151 00:55:21,790 --> 00:55:23,689 going to be great, I'm really looking forward to it actually, really, really 1152 00:55:23,689 --> 00:55:27,610 looking forward to it, so do join us for that, do make sure you're subscribed, 1153 00:55:27,610 --> 00:55:30,249 whether you're watching YouTube, on Facebook, you can subscribe, you can 1154 00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:31,783 like, but the best thing to do, Bye. 1155 00:55:31,783 --> 00:55:31,964 Bye. 1156 00:55:32,555 --> 00:55:34,135 Uh, I'm looking for the button. 1157 00:55:34,165 --> 00:55:34,555 There it is. 1158 00:55:34,855 --> 00:55:38,914 The best thing to do is to head to the website, crowd. 1159 00:55:38,915 --> 00:55:40,155 church, www. 1160 00:55:40,195 --> 00:55:40,405 crowd. 1161 00:55:40,595 --> 00:55:40,875 church. 1162 00:55:40,875 --> 00:55:44,724 Just put your name and email in on the form, uh, to subscribe to the newsletter. 1163 00:55:44,724 --> 00:55:47,165 And every week we just send out a little note saying, this 1164 00:55:47,165 --> 00:55:48,134 is what we're talking about. 1165 00:55:48,195 --> 00:55:49,564 These are the notes from last week. 1166 00:55:49,965 --> 00:55:51,965 And we just email you once a week with that. 1167 00:55:52,485 --> 00:55:54,295 Um, so that's how you can connect again. 1168 00:55:54,305 --> 00:55:56,055 Best way to do is to sign up on the website. 1169 00:55:56,145 --> 00:56:01,314 Uh, and is there any stuff you do in the week as church? 1170 00:56:01,315 --> 00:56:01,379 Yeah. 1171 00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:02,540 Yes, there is. 1172 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,973 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. 1173 00:56:04,973 --> 00:56:07,350 Uh, we should probably tell them what it is and just go, yes, that's it. 1174 00:56:07,580 --> 00:56:07,700 Yes. 1175 00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:09,480 I'll just end it right there. 1176 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:09,722 Matt, 1177 00:56:09,722 --> 00:56:11,360 Anna Kettle: you usually don't say, you go ahead. 1178 00:56:11,950 --> 00:56:15,510 Matt Edmundson: Yeah, so, uh, normally what happens is we have Zoom groups. 1179 00:56:15,620 --> 00:56:19,009 Uh, so, if you want to join one of the Zoom groups, catch up with 1180 00:56:19,009 --> 00:56:21,900 folks, um, then come join us on Zoom. 1181 00:56:22,450 --> 00:56:24,570 You are more than welcome to do that. 1182 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,240 Uh, we tend to meet on Wednesdays, uh, midweek. 1183 00:56:28,260 --> 00:56:30,509 So, around 8pm here in the UK. 1184 00:56:30,995 --> 00:56:34,035 Uh, but depending on where you are in the world, it may be that we can do different 1185 00:56:34,035 --> 00:56:37,365 times if that's helpful, but we do like to catch up on Zoom, we just talk about 1186 00:56:37,365 --> 00:56:40,895 the talk, a bit like what we've done tonight really, um, pray for each other, 1187 00:56:40,895 --> 00:56:44,215 answer any questions, pretty chill, but it's always nice to be in community, so 1188 00:56:44,225 --> 00:56:46,115 do come join us for that if you'd like to. 1189 00:56:46,405 --> 00:56:50,064 If you want to know more about those, just reach us through the website, www. 1190 00:56:50,115 --> 00:56:50,375 crowd. 1191 00:56:50,495 --> 00:56:52,695 church, or you can message us on social media. 1192 00:56:53,165 --> 00:56:56,345 And we will happily send uh, the information, the Zoom links and 1193 00:56:56,345 --> 00:56:57,605 all that sort of stuff to you. 1194 00:56:57,845 --> 00:56:59,285 Uh, so yeah, feel free to join. 1195 00:56:59,285 --> 00:57:01,565 So hopefully that's answered that question. 1196 00:57:02,255 --> 00:57:03,005 Uh, so yeah. 1197 00:57:03,005 --> 00:57:04,385 Is there anything else from you? 1198 00:57:05,075 --> 00:57:05,795 I don't think so. 1199 00:57:06,425 --> 00:57:06,635 No. 1200 00:57:06,995 --> 00:57:07,295 No. 1201 00:57:07,565 --> 00:57:08,615 I'm looking forward to next week. 1202 00:57:08,615 --> 00:57:09,605 This week's been awesome. 1203 00:57:09,605 --> 00:57:10,445 I'm really enjoyed that. 1204 00:57:10,505 --> 00:57:11,405 Yeah, it's been fun to be back. 1205 00:57:11,735 --> 00:57:12,065 It's fun. 1206 00:57:12,065 --> 00:57:13,415 It's fun to have you back. 1207 00:57:14,465 --> 00:57:15,545 the new you, the new do. 1208 00:57:15,545 --> 00:57:16,265 It's great. 1209 00:57:18,745 --> 00:57:19,845 Listen, that's it for me. 1210 00:57:19,845 --> 00:57:20,635 That's it from Anna. 1211 00:57:20,635 --> 00:57:22,315 Thank you so much for joining us, folks. 1212 00:57:22,375 --> 00:57:24,315 Have a fantastic week wherever you are in the world. 1213 00:57:25,335 --> 00:57:27,174 Bamsam, I'll try this again next week. 1214 00:57:27,175 --> 00:57:28,115 Yeah, come join me and Anna. 1215 00:57:28,175 --> 00:57:28,565 Why not? 1216 00:57:28,684 --> 00:57:29,145 Be with us. 1217 00:57:29,554 --> 00:57:31,945 Andy, have an awesome week. 1218 00:57:32,205 --> 00:57:32,855 Keith and Peter. 1219 00:57:33,275 --> 00:57:34,385 Hola, como estas? 1220 00:57:34,414 --> 00:57:35,325 Oh, that's where you got it from. 1221 00:57:35,335 --> 00:57:35,845 Yeah. 1222 00:57:36,215 --> 00:57:39,344 Sorry, I've not been reading the comments as much as I probably should do. 1223 00:57:39,345 --> 00:57:41,895 But yeah, have a fantastic week wherever you are in the world. 1224 00:57:41,895 --> 00:57:43,604 It's been great to be with you. 1225 00:57:43,604 --> 00:57:44,455 Thank you for joining us. 1226 00:57:44,455 --> 00:57:45,474 Do come join us next week. 1227 00:57:46,660 --> 00:57:48,190 I think I just need to. 1228 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:50,190 Oh, there we go. 1229 00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:50,980 That's the button I need. 1230 00:57:52,450 --> 00:57:53,100 Slick again. 1231 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:53,980 Slick again. 1232 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:54,960 All right. 1233 00:57:54,970 --> 00:57:55,570 Bless you guys. 1234 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,260 Have a great week. 1235 00:57:56,479 --> 00:57:56,900 Have a great week. 1236 00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:57,320 Bye for now. 1237 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,220 Thank you so much for joining us here on Crowd 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00:58:49,095 --> 00:58:54,084 the Christian faith and also how to connect into our church community. 1249 00:58:54,805 --> 00:59:00,135 It has been Awesome to connect with you and you are awesome. 1250 00:59:00,275 --> 00:59:05,325 It's just a burden you have to bear and hopefully we'll see you next time. 1251 00:59:05,505 --> 00:59:06,265 That's it from us. 1252 00:59:06,395 --> 00:59:07,115 God bless you. 1253 00:59:07,755 --> 00:59:08,225 Bye for now.