1 00:00:12,660 --> 00:00:15,540 Matt Edmundson: Welcome to this week's Crowd Church service. 2 00:00:15,930 --> 00:00:19,740 We are a digital church on a quest to discover how Jesus helps 3 00:00:19,740 --> 00:00:22,410 us live a more meaningful life. 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,400 We are a community. 5 00:00:23,965 --> 00:00:28,705 A space to explore the Christian faith and a place where you can contribute and grow. 6 00:00:29,725 --> 00:00:34,195 Our service uh, will last about an hour and in a few seconds you'll 7 00:00:34,195 --> 00:00:38,995 meet our hosts, uh, for our service, who will introduce today's talk. 8 00:00:39,595 --> 00:00:43,885 After the talk, we will have a time of worship and reflection, after which we 9 00:00:43,885 --> 00:00:48,925 head into Conversation Street, where we look at your stories and questions 10 00:00:49,195 --> 00:00:51,455 that you've posted in the comments. 11 00:00:52,605 --> 00:00:57,464 Now we want to invite you to connect with us here at Crowd Church, and we've got a 12 00:00:57,464 --> 00:01:01,065 few ways in which you can do just that. 13 00:01:01,275 --> 00:01:05,565 Firstly, you can engage with Crowd from any device during our 14 00:01:05,565 --> 00:01:07,575 livestream, and if you're up for it. 15 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Why not invite a few friends over and experience the service together? 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38 00:02:36,270 --> 00:02:36,630 Dan Orange: Yeah. 39 00:02:37,290 --> 00:02:39,810 So, um, I'm pressing the buttons today. 40 00:02:40,260 --> 00:02:47,355 My name's Dan and I'm with Anna, and she's gonna help us get through this. 41 00:02:50,085 --> 00:02:52,875 Anna Kettle: Dan said just before we went on air, everyone, Dan said 42 00:02:52,875 --> 00:02:54,735 he's really good at the tech side. 43 00:02:54,975 --> 00:02:58,305 I was like, Well, I'm not very good at the tech side, so what am I here to do? 44 00:02:58,455 --> 00:03:00,735 Apparently just chat at you for an hour. 45 00:03:00,745 --> 00:03:02,595 So that's all good. 46 00:03:02,595 --> 00:03:02,835 Isn't it? 47 00:03:02,885 --> 00:03:03,975 Dan Orange: Yeah, and I'm not quite the tech side. 48 00:03:03,975 --> 00:03:04,975 We've that 49 00:03:06,645 --> 00:03:09,435 Anna Kettle: Matt Edmundson may not be here, but we've got it covered. 50 00:03:10,215 --> 00:03:10,755 So, yeah. 51 00:03:11,115 --> 00:03:12,135 Uh, how are you, Dan? 52 00:03:12,135 --> 00:03:12,885 How's your week been? 53 00:03:12,885 --> 00:03:13,305 Dan Orange: Yes. 54 00:03:13,605 --> 00:03:14,715 Doing very good thanks. 55 00:03:14,795 --> 00:03:17,535 Had a good week, half term kids have been off. 56 00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:17,625 Mm-hmm. 57 00:03:18,050 --> 00:03:22,725 , Uh, I've been at work, but we've had a nice time relaxed, um, 58 00:03:23,225 --> 00:03:24,155 all ready for the week ahead. 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,155 Anna Kettle: Yeah, we've had, um, yeah, in the UK it's been 60 00:03:28,155 --> 00:03:29,295 half term here, hasn't it? 61 00:03:29,355 --> 00:03:31,965 And um, for anyone who's watching internationally, Yes. 62 00:03:32,295 --> 00:03:35,805 But, um, yeah, we've, my family just took the week off. 63 00:03:35,925 --> 00:03:39,315 Um, obviously my little boy has been off school, so we all took a few 64 00:03:39,315 --> 00:03:43,515 days off work and went to North Wales for a few days, which was very nice. 65 00:03:43,995 --> 00:03:46,995 Normally, I think North Wales is like one of those places where 66 00:03:46,995 --> 00:03:48,755 it just rains and it's very gray. 67 00:03:48,885 --> 00:03:50,715 But we had amazing weather this week. 68 00:03:51,495 --> 00:03:53,565 Surprising at the end of October. 69 00:03:54,105 --> 00:03:57,704 Um, yeah, we were, we were truly blessed with some sunny days 70 00:03:57,734 --> 00:03:59,894 and got on the beach and Oh wow. 71 00:03:59,894 --> 00:04:00,945 Went for some nice walks. 72 00:04:00,950 --> 00:04:01,665 It was amazing. 73 00:04:01,665 --> 00:04:01,935 Yeah. 74 00:04:01,984 --> 00:04:02,144 Yeah. 75 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:02,775 We had a good week. 76 00:04:03,275 --> 00:04:03,825 Oh, brilliant. 77 00:04:03,825 --> 00:04:04,144 Yeah. 78 00:04:05,315 --> 00:04:05,805 Yeah. 79 00:04:05,805 --> 00:04:07,605 You don't always expect that in October, do you? 80 00:04:07,605 --> 00:04:08,165 And no. 81 00:04:08,984 --> 00:04:12,644 Today, literally the clocks have just gone back, so it's, uh, yeah. 82 00:04:12,644 --> 00:04:17,325 Suddenly feeling very wintery and very dark, like I just, as I was 83 00:04:17,329 --> 00:04:21,659 logging on to meet Dan before it was like, It was half five and we 84 00:04:21,659 --> 00:04:22,770 were just logging in, weren't we? 85 00:04:22,770 --> 00:04:24,510 And it was like already pitch black. 86 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:27,000 It's like, no, we're into winter. 87 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:30,599 Dan Orange: I know the last few times I've, I've had to use this 88 00:04:30,599 --> 00:04:34,020 curtain to block out the sun and now all it's doing is blocking 89 00:04:34,020 --> 00:04:35,190 out the mess on my window sill. 90 00:04:35,190 --> 00:04:36,719 There's no sun streaming through 91 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:39,169 . Anna Kettle: I love it. 92 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:41,640 Well that's great. 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,090 Dan Orange: So, um, what have we got lined up for today? 94 00:04:46,635 --> 00:04:52,845 We got Esther Richards bringing the talk from probably the best location we've had. 95 00:04:53,235 --> 00:04:55,335 So it's, it's not in a room somewhere. 96 00:04:55,335 --> 00:04:59,625 She's doing the talk from a beach in Australia, which is pretty impressive. 97 00:04:59,715 --> 00:05:01,045 So looking forward to it. 98 00:05:01,045 --> 00:05:01,145 Anna Kettle: Ok. 99 00:05:01,215 --> 00:05:04,545 That pushing that is just pushing out my North Wales trip, isn't it? 100 00:05:04,545 --> 00:05:08,445 Like Yeah, I've been on the beach, but not quite like summer in Australia. 101 00:05:08,445 --> 00:05:11,625 So, Okay, we're bringing the glamour tonight then, aren't we? 102 00:05:11,745 --> 00:05:13,185 And it's truly international. 103 00:05:13,515 --> 00:05:14,085 Dan Orange: Yes. 104 00:05:14,805 --> 00:05:15,715 Uh, and then we. 105 00:05:16,780 --> 00:05:21,075 Anna and John Farrington doing worship. 106 00:05:21,164 --> 00:05:25,125 And then we'll be back with some Conversation Street. 107 00:05:25,395 --> 00:05:27,075 So we'll talk about the, the talk. 108 00:05:27,075 --> 00:05:31,365 So, um, put any questions in the comments. 109 00:05:32,025 --> 00:05:32,115 Mm-hmm. 110 00:05:32,355 --> 00:05:33,015 , um, Yeah. 111 00:05:33,015 --> 00:05:35,565 Cause we'd love to have a go at answering them and see what you're 112 00:05:35,895 --> 00:05:37,305 thinking about Esther's talk. 113 00:05:40,425 --> 00:05:41,025 So, Great. 114 00:05:41,025 --> 00:05:41,466 How are you? 115 00:05:41,594 --> 00:05:41,955 Yeah. 116 00:05:42,224 --> 00:05:43,215 Are we all ready to go? 117 00:05:44,034 --> 00:05:46,480 Anna Kettle: Yeah, let's roll the talk then and let's roll the talk. 118 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,360 As always post your comments and thoughts as we go through. 119 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,130 Dan Orange: That'd be great. 120 00:05:50,130 --> 00:05:51,760 We'll see you at Conversation Street. 121 00:06:01,110 --> 00:06:04,840 Esther Richards: Hello from Sunny Lord Howe Island in Australia, 122 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:09,210 I'm Esther and we're gonna be looking today at John 9 and 10. 123 00:06:09,974 --> 00:06:11,669 So first I'm gonna look at John 9. 124 00:06:11,685 --> 00:06:13,244 I'm just gonna read it out for you. 125 00:06:14,685 --> 00:06:16,664 Jesus heals a man born blind. 126 00:06:17,174 --> 00:06:19,034 As he passed by, its Jesus. 127 00:06:19,784 --> 00:06:24,854 He saw a man blind from birth and his disciples asked him, Rabbi, who sinned? 128 00:06:24,859 --> 00:06:27,195 This man or his parents that he was born blind? 129 00:06:27,424 --> 00:06:28,604 Jesus answered. 130 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,220 It was not that this man sinned or his parents, but that the works 131 00:06:32,220 --> 00:06:33,810 of God might be displayed in him. 132 00:06:34,590 --> 00:06:37,470 We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day. 133 00:06:37,620 --> 00:06:39,330 Night is coming when no one can work. 134 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:42,330 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. 135 00:06:42,990 --> 00:06:46,500 Having said these things, he sat on the ground and made mud with the saliva. 136 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:50,700 Then he anointed the man's eyes with the mud and said to him, Go wash in 137 00:06:50,705 --> 00:06:52,729 the pool of Siloam, which means sent. 138 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:55,620 So he went and washed and came back seeing. 139 00:06:56,625 --> 00:07:00,345 The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar were saying, Is this 140 00:07:00,345 --> 00:07:02,115 not the man who used to sit and beg? 141 00:07:02,595 --> 00:07:03,915 Some said it is he. 142 00:07:04,305 --> 00:07:06,765 Others said No, but he is like him. 143 00:07:07,245 --> 00:07:08,925 He kept saying, I am the man. 144 00:07:09,975 --> 00:07:13,035 So they said to him, Then how were your eyes opened? 145 00:07:13,215 --> 00:07:13,875 He answered. 146 00:07:14,205 --> 00:07:17,535 The man called Jesus made mud, anointed and anointed my eyes and 147 00:07:17,535 --> 00:07:19,965 said to me, Go to Siloam and wash. 148 00:07:20,415 --> 00:07:22,485 So I went and washed and received my sight. 149 00:07:23,415 --> 00:07:24,825 They said to him, Where is he? 150 00:07:25,065 --> 00:07:26,115 He said, I do not know. 151 00:07:27,105 --> 00:07:29,775 They brought to the Pharisees, the man who had formally been blind. 152 00:07:30,465 --> 00:07:33,675 Now it was a Sabbath day when Jesus made the mud and opened his eyes. 153 00:07:34,515 --> 00:07:38,265 So the Pharisees again asked him how he had received his sight and 154 00:07:38,265 --> 00:07:42,224 he said to them, He put mud on my eyes and I washed and I see. 155 00:07:42,765 --> 00:07:46,245 Some of the Pharisees said, This man is not from God for 156 00:07:46,245 --> 00:07:47,455 he does not keep the Sabbath. 157 00:07:47,875 --> 00:07:50,965 But others said, How can a man who is sinner do such signs? 158 00:07:51,695 --> 00:07:53,040 And there was a division among them. 159 00:07:53,340 --> 00:07:56,730 So they said again to the blind man, What do you say about him 160 00:07:56,730 --> 00:07:58,050 since he has opened your eyes? 161 00:07:58,470 --> 00:07:59,850 He said he is a prophet. 162 00:08:00,510 --> 00:08:05,400 The Jews did not believe, the Jews did not believe that he had been blind 163 00:08:05,460 --> 00:08:08,790 and had received his sight until they called the parents of the man who had 164 00:08:08,790 --> 00:08:13,230 received his sight and asked them, Is this your son who you say was born blind? 165 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:15,540 How then does he now see? 166 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:19,940 His parents answered, We know that this is our son and that he was born blind. 167 00:08:20,370 --> 00:08:24,450 But how he now sees, we do not know, nor do we know who opened his eyes. 168 00:08:24,930 --> 00:08:26,250 Ask him, He is of age. 169 00:08:26,250 --> 00:08:27,330 He will speak for himself. 170 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,450 His parents said these things because they feared the Jews. 171 00:08:30,450 --> 00:08:34,470 For the Jews had already agreed if anyone should confess, to confess 172 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:37,530 Jesus, to be Christ, he was to be put out of the synagogue. 173 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,860 Therefore, his parents said he is of age ask him. 174 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,460 So for the second time, they called the man who had been blind and 175 00:08:44,465 --> 00:08:46,380 said to him, Give glory to God. 176 00:08:46,439 --> 00:08:48,080 We know that this man is a sinner. 177 00:08:49,220 --> 00:08:51,255 He answered whether he is a sinner. 178 00:08:51,255 --> 00:08:51,975 I do not know. 179 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:55,795 One thing I do know that though I was blind, but now I see. 180 00:08:56,715 --> 00:08:59,025 They said to him, What did he do to you? 181 00:08:59,030 --> 00:09:00,465 How did he open your eyes? 182 00:09:00,944 --> 00:09:01,635 He answered this. 183 00:09:02,175 --> 00:09:04,275 I have told you already, and you would not listen. 184 00:09:04,665 --> 00:09:05,865 Why do you want to hear it again? 185 00:09:06,405 --> 00:09:08,365 Do you also want to become his disciples? 186 00:09:09,194 --> 00:09:11,550 And they reviled him saying, You are his disciple. 187 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:13,380 But we are disciples of Moses. 188 00:09:13,770 --> 00:09:17,010 We know that God has spoken to Moses, but as for this man, we 189 00:09:17,010 --> 00:09:18,390 do not know where he comes from. 190 00:09:19,170 --> 00:09:21,959 And the man answered Well, here is an amazing thing. 191 00:09:22,140 --> 00:09:25,079 You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. 192 00:09:25,619 --> 00:09:29,189 We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of 193 00:09:29,189 --> 00:09:32,310 God and does his will, God listens to him. 194 00:09:32,369 --> 00:09:35,430 Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened 195 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:37,035 the eyes of a man born blind. 196 00:09:37,695 --> 00:09:39,930 If this man were not from God, he could do nothing. 197 00:09:40,410 --> 00:09:41,219 They answered him. 198 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,890 You were born and up to sin, and you would teach us? 199 00:09:44,370 --> 00:09:45,240 And they cast him out. 200 00:09:46,079 --> 00:09:49,140 Jesus heard that they had cast him out and having found him, he said, 201 00:09:49,709 --> 00:09:51,030 Do you believe in the son of man? 202 00:09:51,420 --> 00:09:54,329 He answered, And who is he, sir that I may believe in him? 203 00:09:54,839 --> 00:09:58,709 Jesus said to him, You have seen him and it is he who is speaking to you. 204 00:09:59,339 --> 00:10:01,589 He said, Lord, I believe, and he worshiped him. 205 00:10:02,310 --> 00:10:04,469 Jesus said, For judgment I came into this. 206 00:10:05,190 --> 00:10:08,520 But those who do not see, may see, and those who see may become blind. 207 00:10:09,420 --> 00:10:13,320 Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things and said to him, Are we also blind? 208 00:10:13,890 --> 00:10:16,680 Jesus said to them, If you are blind, you would have no guilt. 209 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,070 But now that you say, we see, your guilt remains. 210 00:10:22,590 --> 00:10:28,680 So in this chapter, We see Jesus healing a man who was born blind. 211 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,010 Jesus does this in seem a quite strange way. 212 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,020 He spits on the grounds and makes mud with saliva with his saliva and rubs 213 00:10:37,025 --> 00:10:41,820 that mud on the man's eyes and sends the man to go to the pool of Siloam to 214 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:43,680 wash, which he did and he was healed. 215 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,719 So it's a pretty amazing healing. 216 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,579 Then there's this whole kerfuffle about it with the Pharisees afterwards, and 217 00:10:50,579 --> 00:10:52,020 they're questioning how it happened. 218 00:10:52,380 --> 00:10:56,010 They ask the man who was healed, they ask his parents, they ask the man who was 219 00:10:56,010 --> 00:11:01,620 healed again, and in the end it becomes a conversation about who Jesus actually is. 220 00:11:03,290 --> 00:11:07,040 The Pharisees are saying that surely Jesus cannot be from God. 221 00:11:07,439 --> 00:11:10,520 Cuz the day that he performed this healing was the Sabbath day or the 222 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,180 Jewish Holy Day where they're not supposed to do any work, and they reckon 223 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,100 that healing somebody counts as work. 224 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,300 So if he doesn't keep the Sabbath, then surely he's a sinner. 225 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:21,680 Surely he can't be from God. 226 00:11:22,830 --> 00:11:25,980 The parents of the man, uh, when asked are too afraid to say who 227 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:29,290 they think Jesus is in case they get cast out of the synagogue. 228 00:11:30,060 --> 00:11:33,120 So the man who was healed then explains what he knows and 229 00:11:33,125 --> 00:11:34,710 what his experience has been. 230 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:40,650 And he does that in verses 25 to 33 where he says, um, whether 231 00:11:40,655 --> 00:11:42,120 he is a sinner I do not know. 232 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:46,290 One thing I do know though that though I was blind, now I see. 233 00:11:49,050 --> 00:11:54,300 And then he continues on to kind of talk about why he thinks who 234 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:55,680 Jesus is, who he says he is. 235 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,630 Um, because he talks about, you know, we, we've never seen a man, uh, who's 236 00:12:00,630 --> 00:12:05,070 been blind from birth to be to see again, people can't do that surely. 237 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:08,790 And we know that God speaks to his people and speaks to good people. 238 00:12:10,590 --> 00:12:14,820 So he kind of uses his own logic to, um, see what he knows, see what 239 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:18,090 he's experienced, and understand who Jesus is, who he believes 240 00:12:18,095 --> 00:12:20,860 Jesus has revealed himself to be. 241 00:12:23,050 --> 00:12:26,745 So this gets him cast out of his synagogue and Jesus hears about 242 00:12:26,745 --> 00:12:31,215 this and goes to talk to him, and Jesus then explains to the man who 243 00:12:31,215 --> 00:12:34,585 he is, which is in verses 35 to 38. 244 00:12:36,390 --> 00:12:36,600 All right. 245 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,590 I'm just gonna read again. 246 00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:41,460 Jesus heard that they had cast him out and having found him, he said, 247 00:12:41,819 --> 00:12:43,439 Do you believe in the son of man? 248 00:12:43,890 --> 00:12:45,840 He answered, And who is he, sir? 249 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,100 That I may believe in him. 250 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Jesus said to him, You have seen him. 251 00:12:49,650 --> 00:12:51,329 It is he who is speaking to you. 252 00:12:52,140 --> 00:12:54,770 He said, Lord, I believe, and he worshiped him. 253 00:12:57,135 --> 00:12:58,275 You have seen him. 254 00:12:58,275 --> 00:13:00,195 It is he who is speaking to you. 255 00:13:01,425 --> 00:13:03,765 Jesus is basically saying, It's me. 256 00:13:03,770 --> 00:13:04,545 I'm here. 257 00:13:04,605 --> 00:13:06,375 You've seen me, you can hear me. 258 00:13:07,395 --> 00:13:12,135 And the Pharisees got so caught up in the law and all the technicalities, 259 00:13:12,135 --> 00:13:16,395 and ticking the boxes and getting the days right that they miss Jesus. 260 00:13:17,145 --> 00:13:18,585 Don't get caught up. 261 00:13:18,795 --> 00:13:22,575 Don't get distracted by religion, by ticking boxes, by 262 00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:24,175 trying to get everything right. 263 00:13:24,745 --> 00:13:30,510 And miss who Jesus really is and who he's calling you to be, He has 264 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:32,820 already revealed himself to you. 265 00:13:33,270 --> 00:13:36,630 The whole of the Bible is Jesus revealing himself and his nature. 266 00:13:37,230 --> 00:13:38,250 You have seen him. 267 00:13:38,610 --> 00:13:40,380 It is he who is speaking to you. 268 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,770 That is relevant for all of us even now. 269 00:13:46,540 --> 00:13:50,850 We can also learn a whole lot from the response of the no longer blind man. 270 00:13:51,615 --> 00:13:55,076 The way the man responds to the questioning of the Pharisees is a really 271 00:13:55,081 --> 00:13:57,855 beautiful example of being a witness. 272 00:13:58,035 --> 00:14:04,095 We know that we are called to be witnesses to Jesus and to who Jesus is, 273 00:14:04,185 --> 00:14:06,165 and we see it many times in the Bible. 274 00:14:06,315 --> 00:14:08,055 I'm just gonna give you a few examples. 275 00:14:08,775 --> 00:14:13,695 So we see it a few times in Acts in chapter one, verse eight, which says, 276 00:14:16,605 --> 00:14:20,425 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come up on you, and you'll 277 00:14:20,425 --> 00:14:25,755 be my witnesses in all Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria to the end of the earth. 278 00:14:26,655 --> 00:14:39,191 You see it again in Acts chapter 22, verse 15, which says, For you will be a witness 279 00:14:39,991 --> 00:14:46,094 for him, to everyone of what you have seen and heard and earlier you see it in 280 00:14:46,094 --> 00:14:58,454 Isaiah 43, verse 10, You are my witnesses, declares the Lord, and my servant whom 281 00:14:58,454 --> 00:15:02,865 I have chosen that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. 282 00:15:03,185 --> 00:15:06,494 Before me no God was formed nor shall there be any after me. 283 00:15:07,535 --> 00:15:09,690 You are my witnesses, declares the Lord. 284 00:15:11,250 --> 00:15:16,350 So we're told to be witnesses for Jesus and it's a vital part of God's 285 00:15:16,355 --> 00:15:18,330 mission of what he's calling us to. 286 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,160 But how do we do that? 287 00:15:20,340 --> 00:15:22,760 Well, in acts 4:20. 288 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:29,430 Um, it tells us a little bit how to do this very briefly and simply, but in a 289 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:32,040 really simple and easy to understand way. 290 00:15:32,610 --> 00:15:40,245 It says for we cannot, but speak of what we have seen and heard. 291 00:15:40,575 --> 00:15:41,025 That's it. 292 00:15:41,025 --> 00:15:44,745 That's all it takes to be a witness is to speak of what we see and what we hear. 293 00:15:45,795 --> 00:15:48,855 So Acts four tells us how to do it. 294 00:15:50,025 --> 00:15:53,625 Um, and the man in this story in John shows us how to do it. 295 00:15:55,185 --> 00:16:00,585 Cause in verse 25, he says very simply. 296 00:16:01,485 --> 00:16:04,575 One thing I do know that though I was blind. 297 00:16:04,665 --> 00:16:05,655 Now I see. 298 00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:11,370 He even admits that he doesn't know the full extent of everything he says, 299 00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:13,439 whether he is a sinner, I do not know. 300 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:19,020 He doesn't take a really long time researching and, and trying to make sure 301 00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:22,890 that he knows all the answers and has all the understanding and all the technical 302 00:16:22,890 --> 00:16:24,900 words and everything worked out perfectly. 303 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:28,439 He just says what he knows and what he's experienced, and that's 304 00:16:28,439 --> 00:16:30,099 what it means to be a witness. 305 00:16:31,630 --> 00:16:34,620 That is what we are called to do as well, to be a witness. 306 00:16:34,620 --> 00:16:36,570 And this man is an excellent example of that. 307 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:43,230 So I'm gonna move on to John chapter 10, um, which is a brilliant chapter. 308 00:16:43,230 --> 00:16:45,960 It's a classic, you probably heard many parts of it before. 309 00:16:46,410 --> 00:16:50,700 Um, it's entitled, I Am The Good Shepherd. 310 00:16:54,690 --> 00:16:56,010 I'm gonna especially talk. 311 00:16:57,045 --> 00:16:59,475 Well that, that aspect of it, of Jesus being the good 312 00:16:59,475 --> 00:17:01,215 shepherd, I'm just gonna read it. 313 00:17:04,004 --> 00:17:06,974 Truly, truly, I say to you, this is Jesus speaking. 314 00:17:08,025 --> 00:17:11,444 He who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs in by another 315 00:17:11,450 --> 00:17:13,515 way, That man is a thief and a robber. 316 00:17:13,885 --> 00:17:17,844 But he who enters ny the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 317 00:17:17,844 --> 00:17:19,585 To him the gatekeeper opens. 318 00:17:20,085 --> 00:17:23,994 The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 319 00:17:24,734 --> 00:17:28,215 When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them and the sheep 320 00:17:28,215 --> 00:17:30,375 follow him for they know his voice. 321 00:17:30,945 --> 00:17:32,445 A stranger, they will not follow. 322 00:17:32,565 --> 00:17:36,705 They will flee from him for they do not know the voice of strangers. 323 00:17:37,005 --> 00:17:40,545 This figure of speech Jesus used with them, but they did not understand 324 00:17:40,575 --> 00:17:41,655 what he was saying to them. 325 00:17:42,615 --> 00:17:43,905 So Jesus said to them. 326 00:17:44,324 --> 00:17:48,915 So Jesus again said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door. 327 00:17:50,175 --> 00:17:52,674 All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the 328 00:17:52,674 --> 00:17:53,955 sheep did not listen to them. 329 00:17:54,614 --> 00:17:55,514 I am the door. 330 00:17:55,725 --> 00:18:00,524 If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. 331 00:18:01,004 --> 00:18:04,284 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. 332 00:18:04,854 --> 00:18:08,235 I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. 333 00:18:09,315 --> 00:18:10,425 I am the good shepherd. 334 00:18:10,725 --> 00:18:13,115 The good Shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 335 00:18:13,395 --> 00:18:17,595 He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd who does not own the sheep, sees the 336 00:18:17,595 --> 00:18:24,605 wolf coming, leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches and scatters them. 337 00:18:25,075 --> 00:18:28,125 He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. 338 00:18:28,665 --> 00:18:29,745 I am the good shepherd. 339 00:18:29,835 --> 00:18:31,770 I know my own and my own know me. 340 00:18:32,180 --> 00:18:36,745 Just as the father knows me and I know the father and I lay down my life for 341 00:18:36,765 --> 00:18:41,055 the sheep and I have other sheep that are not of this fold, I must bring them 342 00:18:41,055 --> 00:18:43,455 also and they will listen to my voice. 343 00:18:43,695 --> 00:18:45,750 So there will be one flock, one shepherd. 344 00:18:46,290 --> 00:18:49,189 For this reason, the father loves me because I lay down my life 345 00:18:49,189 --> 00:18:50,399 that I may take it up again. 346 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:54,389 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down at my own accord. 347 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,470 I have authority to lay it down and I have authority to take it up again. 348 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,689 This charge I have received from my father. 349 00:19:01,379 --> 00:19:05,399 There was again, a division among the Jews because of these words. 350 00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:08,479 Many of them said he has a demon and is insane. 351 00:19:08,580 --> 00:19:09,419 Why listen to him? 352 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,129 Others said, these are not the words of one who is oppressed by a demon. 353 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:15,570 Can a demonn open the eyes of the blind? 354 00:19:18,210 --> 00:19:21,870 At that time, the Feast of Dedication took place at Jerusalem. 355 00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:26,130 It was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple in the colonnade of Solomon. 356 00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:29,790 So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, How long 357 00:19:29,795 --> 00:19:31,040 will you keep us in suspense? 358 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,090 If you are the Christ, tell us plainly. 359 00:19:34,110 --> 00:19:35,100 Jesus answered them. 360 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,810 I told you, and you do not believe. 361 00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:39,810 The works that I do in my father's name bear Witness about. 362 00:19:40,485 --> 00:19:43,004 But you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. 363 00:19:43,485 --> 00:19:46,215 My sheep hear my voice and I know them, and they follow me. 364 00:19:46,665 --> 00:19:49,185 I give them eternal life and they will never perish. 365 00:19:49,605 --> 00:19:52,355 And no one will snatch them out of my hand. 366 00:19:52,830 --> 00:19:56,820 My father who has given them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to 367 00:19:56,820 --> 00:19:58,469 snatch them out of the father's hand. 368 00:19:58,620 --> 00:19:59,899 I and the father are one. 369 00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:04,230 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 370 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:06,090 Jesus answered them. 371 00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:08,459 I have shown you many good works from the Father. 372 00:20:08,490 --> 00:20:10,290 For which of them are you going to stone me? 373 00:20:10,889 --> 00:20:11,879 The Jews answered him. 374 00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:15,060 It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you, but for blasphemy, 375 00:20:15,570 --> 00:20:17,709 because you being a man make yourself God. 376 00:20:19,429 --> 00:20:22,290 Jesus answered them is it not written in your law? 377 00:20:22,530 --> 00:20:26,129 I said, You are Gods, if he called them Gods, to whom the word of God 378 00:20:26,129 --> 00:20:28,290 came and scripture cannot be broken. 379 00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:33,345 Do you say of him whom the father consecrated and sent into the 380 00:20:33,345 --> 00:20:36,615 world you are blaspheming cuz I said, I am the son of God. 381 00:20:37,245 --> 00:20:40,215 If I'm not doing the works of my father, then do not believe me. 382 00:20:40,574 --> 00:20:44,324 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works that 383 00:20:44,324 --> 00:20:48,225 you may know and understand the Father is in me, and I am in the Father. 384 00:20:48,514 --> 00:20:51,465 Again they sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hand. 385 00:20:52,215 --> 00:20:54,824 He went away again across the Jordan to the place where John 386 00:20:54,824 --> 00:20:56,264 had been baptizing at first. 387 00:20:56,294 --> 00:20:57,245 And there he remained. 388 00:20:57,780 --> 00:21:01,080 And many came to him and they said, John did no sign. 389 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:05,730 But everything that John said about this man was true and many believed him there. 390 00:21:07,470 --> 00:21:08,610 So it's chapter 10. 391 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,500 So Jesus says that he is the good shepherd. 392 00:21:14,340 --> 00:21:19,590 That he is the good shepherd who will lay down his life for his sheep. 393 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,250 And actually, it talks about how he chooses to lay down 394 00:21:23,580 --> 00:21:26,159 his life for his sheep. 395 00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:28,470 Says no one takes it from me. 396 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:32,040 He's talking about laying down his life and giving up his life. 397 00:21:32,429 --> 00:21:35,810 He says, No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. 398 00:21:37,230 --> 00:21:39,540 Jesus was not forced to die. 399 00:21:40,890 --> 00:21:43,200 Um, he was not made to do it. 400 00:21:43,205 --> 00:21:44,970 He wasn't bribed into it. 401 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:46,860 He chose to die for you. 402 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,560 It was always his choice. 403 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:50,880 It was always in his control. 404 00:21:51,150 --> 00:21:55,380 Whether he wanted to do it said that he had the authority to lay his life down, 405 00:21:58,410 --> 00:22:00,490 and that's what it talks about in verse 18. 406 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,520 This is clearly talking about what Jesus did on the cross, 407 00:22:05,790 --> 00:22:07,390 that he chose to die for you. 408 00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:10,470 Jesus always had the choice and he chose you. 409 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:12,510 He desires to know you. 410 00:22:13,410 --> 00:22:17,730 Later in the chapter, he tells us, um, that it is he who gives us eternal 411 00:22:17,730 --> 00:22:19,800 life and no one can take that away. 412 00:22:21,390 --> 00:22:27,360 Verse 27 says, My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me. 413 00:22:28,050 --> 00:22:31,860 And this is really similar to part in the last chapter where Jesus. 414 00:22:32,955 --> 00:22:36,135 Um, reveals himself to the healed man where he says It is me. 415 00:22:36,135 --> 00:22:41,235 It's he who has been talking, speaking to you, and the man believes and worships, 416 00:22:41,745 --> 00:22:43,875 he hears his voice and he follows him. 417 00:22:44,595 --> 00:22:48,915 This is a really clear call as to who we are supposed to be and 418 00:22:48,915 --> 00:22:51,969 what we are supposed to do in response to Jesus calling to us. 419 00:22:52,729 --> 00:22:57,014 Jesus is constantly revealing himself to us in the Bible, and this is our, this can 420 00:22:57,014 --> 00:23:00,264 be our only response to believe to hear. 421 00:23:00,835 --> 00:23:03,045 To listen, to believe, and to follow him. 422 00:23:03,165 --> 00:23:04,605 To fall down in worship. 423 00:23:06,225 --> 00:23:09,825 So I just wanted to make one last brief, very quick link, 424 00:23:10,425 --> 00:23:12,105 um, between these two chapters. 425 00:23:12,495 --> 00:23:16,365 In chapter nine, Jesus heals and reveals himself to one man. 426 00:23:16,815 --> 00:23:21,015 And in chapter 10, he is talking about his devotion to the whole flock of sheep. 427 00:23:21,735 --> 00:23:27,315 Jesus knows and loves us all as a group, every single one of us together. 428 00:23:28,379 --> 00:23:31,739 But he also knows and loves you as a distinct individual. 429 00:23:32,340 --> 00:23:36,149 He is always revealing himself to us because he wants you. 430 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,659 He wants to know you, and he wants you to know him. 431 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:41,310 Pay attention. 432 00:23:41,699 --> 00:23:44,100 Don't get caught up by other things. 433 00:23:44,250 --> 00:24:56,800 Know that you are loved, and be a witness to everything he is doing for you. 434 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,250 Anna Kettle: Wow. 435 00:26:01,399 --> 00:27:57,870 Hey everyone. 436 00:27:57,875 --> 00:28:01,030 Looking back, what did you think about the talk? 437 00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:03,270 Dan Orange: It was amazing, wasn't it? 438 00:28:03,460 --> 00:28:08,220 I mean, yeah, as an aside, I think we should have wave noise at 439 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:10,470 the background of all our talks. 440 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:12,460 Anna Kettle: It was kind relaxing, wasn't it? 441 00:28:12,930 --> 00:28:14,010 Dan Orange: It was very relaxing. 442 00:28:14,639 --> 00:28:18,240 Um, yeah, But I thought it was a brilliant, brilliant talk. 443 00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:21,020 Anna Kettle: Um, there was a lot of content in there, wasn't there, 444 00:28:21,020 --> 00:28:24,690 because they covered two chapters of the Bible, so she had a lot to cover, 445 00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:27,060 but just some amazing points in there. 446 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,720 I mean, what was kind of something that really struck you about it, Dan? 447 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,530 Dan Orange: I think, and I think you picked up on it in the comments as 448 00:28:34,530 --> 00:28:40,110 well, that right at the beginning, this, this man gets healed. 449 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,840 He's blind from birth. 450 00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:48,750 He can now see, but all the Pharisees are worried about is 451 00:28:49,050 --> 00:28:50,590 Oh, but did he do it on Sabbath? 452 00:28:51,570 --> 00:28:51,660 Yeah. 453 00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:56,460 And I think we can miss the amazingness of what happens trying 454 00:28:56,460 --> 00:29:01,830 to find fault and did someone break the rules or what's going on? 455 00:29:01,830 --> 00:29:04,260 And yeah, Well, a thing that they missed. 456 00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:06,450 This man's blind. 457 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:12,240 And that's the secondary part of the, you know, the, the story, isn't it? 458 00:29:13,950 --> 00:29:14,430 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 459 00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:14,970 Yeah. 460 00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:16,020 It's amazing, isn't it? 461 00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:20,400 And you kind of think, Oh, the Pharisees are, they're such fools, Like they 462 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,750 always seem to miss it cause they're so stuck on their religious rules and, 463 00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:26,760 and their sort of way of thinking. 464 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,350 But then I, then it, then when I sit back and think about it challenges me 465 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:35,400 because I think, well, maybe I'm not stuck on that kind of religiousness, 466 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,870 but we're all, we all have. 467 00:29:38,085 --> 00:29:41,985 Kind of preexisting beliefs and views and way of seeing the world, 468 00:29:41,985 --> 00:29:46,305 don't we, in our own lens and how we think about God and what he's doing 469 00:29:46,305 --> 00:29:49,695 in the world, and who he can and can't use, and who he works through. 470 00:29:49,695 --> 00:29:52,275 And, you know, we all have our biases, I think. 471 00:29:52,275 --> 00:29:56,925 And it, it really challenges me to think, you know, it's exactly what Esther said. 472 00:29:56,925 --> 00:30:01,790 Like, don't miss what God's doing right in front of you, because it doesn't fit 473 00:30:02,169 --> 00:30:05,580 your narrow view of how you think God should work in your life or in someone 474 00:30:05,580 --> 00:30:08,460 else's life or in the world around us. 475 00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:12,030 I think so often what God's doing in the world doesn't necessarily 476 00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:16,680 fit on the boundaries of what churches is or religion is. 477 00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:19,320 And um, yeah, God's just so big, isn't he? 478 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,370 I don't think he fits in this of narrow boundaries of, you know, 479 00:30:23,399 --> 00:30:28,440 human understanding full stop and yeah, kinda know that, but it's still 480 00:30:28,820 --> 00:30:30,010 challenging to think about isn't it? 481 00:30:30,810 --> 00:30:32,010 Dan Orange: Yeah, absolutely. 482 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,700 And but the one, the one thing, one person it wasn't challenging 483 00:30:37,705 --> 00:30:39,270 for was the man that got healed. 484 00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:49,620 So when some, when God doesn't think in you or to you, or for you is that's when 485 00:30:49,889 --> 00:30:51,570 he was just a natural witness, wasn't he? 486 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:57,360 He was like, Well, you know, I know that sinners don't do these things, so 487 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,950 therefore he must have been from God. 488 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,120 You know, look at me. 489 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,380 I, I can see now. 490 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,680 It was just, it flowed out of him because of what God had done for him. 491 00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:10,590 Anna Kettle: Yeah, and I think, I think the other thing that really struck me 492 00:31:10,590 --> 00:31:14,790 about the talk was when she started talking about the Good Shepherd in the 493 00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:20,070 second chapter, and she talked about like how he chose to lay down his life. 494 00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:23,000 Um, Like he did it of his own accord. 495 00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:27,000 And I think, I'm just looking in the, the, um, comments bar actually. 496 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,910 And Nicolas said, um, when you think about how Jesus had a choice to go through what 497 00:31:31,910 --> 00:31:37,520 he went through or not, and he, and he knew how much pain and abuse he would 498 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,960 suffer, and yet he still chose to do it and think that's it, isn't it That. 499 00:31:42,765 --> 00:31:43,935 Just blows my mind. 500 00:31:43,965 --> 00:31:48,165 And I know the cross is kind of at the center of our Christian faith, and I 501 00:31:48,165 --> 00:31:52,455 know we know this stuff, but still, when you stop and consider it, it still, 502 00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:56,295 it still blows my mind to be like, Oh, he didn't do it cause he had to do it. 503 00:31:57,345 --> 00:31:57,555 You know? 504 00:31:57,555 --> 00:31:59,955 He, he chose, he chose that way. 505 00:31:59,955 --> 00:32:00,285 Yeah. 506 00:32:00,295 --> 00:32:01,815 He chose to lay down his life. 507 00:32:01,815 --> 00:32:05,504 And that is it, it kind of blows my mind. 508 00:32:05,745 --> 00:32:08,655 It, it's beyond, it's beyond my comprehension really. 509 00:32:09,585 --> 00:32:09,705 Yeah. 510 00:32:09,705 --> 00:32:11,504 That kind of love and sacrifice. 511 00:32:13,485 --> 00:32:14,175 Dan Orange: Dedication. 512 00:32:14,745 --> 00:32:23,385 Um, I don't think it's, um, he, yes, it is in, in, um, in John 10 as well. 513 00:32:23,385 --> 00:32:27,554 It says, Well, if there's a, a shepherd that's a hired shepherd, 514 00:32:28,034 --> 00:32:29,504 he doesn't have that commitment. 515 00:32:29,504 --> 00:32:35,534 You know, when, when a wolf comes, he just legs it, you know, let them, let 516 00:32:35,534 --> 00:32:37,155 them, let the wolf have the sheep. 517 00:32:37,155 --> 00:32:42,015 But he, he's got that personal responsibility. 518 00:32:42,165 --> 00:32:44,415 He, he's, God, he's a son. 519 00:32:44,445 --> 00:32:51,135 He couldn't, he, he chose to die for us, but didn't have to die for us. 520 00:32:51,555 --> 00:32:57,855 But then, yeah, His, his love for us caused him to do it. 521 00:32:57,855 --> 00:33:02,055 You know, it was like, there's probably theologians going to that, don't they? 522 00:33:02,055 --> 00:33:03,525 Did he, could he choose it really? 523 00:33:03,735 --> 00:33:05,385 Because he could not do it. 524 00:33:05,445 --> 00:33:06,885 But, but, but he did. 525 00:33:06,915 --> 00:33:09,945 He chose, and he did it for, he died for us. 526 00:33:10,785 --> 00:33:11,255 Amazing. 527 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,700 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 528 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,410 Quite mind blowing, isn't it? 529 00:33:13,410 --> 00:33:14,610 It's like big stuff. 530 00:33:14,615 --> 00:33:14,740 Yeah. 531 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:15,540 Yeah. 532 00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:21,120 Um, the other thing that I found, um, just really good was like what she was 533 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,440 saying at the end about um, how Jesus is like, you know, goes back it linked 534 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,820 back to her original point, which is Jesus is always revealing himself and 535 00:33:29,820 --> 00:33:34,660 so he was revealing himself, you know, through healing that blind man and yet. 536 00:33:35,010 --> 00:33:39,495 Lots of the religious people around, didn't, didn't recognize, recognize how he 537 00:33:39,495 --> 00:33:43,815 was working, didn't recognize the miracle he was doing right in front of their eyes. 538 00:33:44,115 --> 00:33:47,295 They sort of missed it because were hung up on the wrong stuff and you 539 00:33:47,295 --> 00:33:50,445 know, and there was that challenge at the end wasn't there to like pay 540 00:33:50,445 --> 00:33:54,405 attention and like that, that kind of call that like Jesus is always 541 00:33:54,405 --> 00:33:58,185 revealing himself, He's always working in the world, he's always doing stuff. 542 00:33:58,185 --> 00:34:01,245 And like how much, how much are we paying attention? 543 00:34:01,250 --> 00:34:01,754 How much do. 544 00:34:02,595 --> 00:34:03,855 Do we see it? 545 00:34:03,855 --> 00:34:07,465 Or how much do we miss kind of what God's doing right in front of us? 546 00:34:07,985 --> 00:34:09,765 And that, that's challenging, isn't it? 547 00:34:10,965 --> 00:34:11,235 Dan Orange: Yeah. 548 00:34:12,165 --> 00:34:13,185 Yeah, absolutely. 549 00:34:13,185 --> 00:34:17,535 I mean, through John's gospel, he keeps revealing himself and he keeps speaking to 550 00:34:17,535 --> 00:34:23,415 different people, the Samaritan woman, and you know, I am the Messiah, um, the feed 551 00:34:23,415 --> 00:34:27,915 of the 5,000, and they're asking who he is and he keeps saying, You know, I'm God. 552 00:34:27,915 --> 00:34:33,449 And they say all these miracles of wonders and right back to that first 553 00:34:33,449 --> 00:34:37,199 point that they miss it because they're trying to nitpick and trying to find 554 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:42,480 out, well, you know, does this, does this put me out of a job as a Pharisee? 555 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,230 Am I, I, I, yeah. 556 00:34:44,759 --> 00:34:49,170 Will, am I, will I lose my standing if I side with this man? 557 00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:51,480 Um, yeah. 558 00:34:53,230 --> 00:34:53,429 Yeah. 559 00:34:53,429 --> 00:34:58,650 What are we going to, what we're gonna lose to side with Jesus? 560 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,920 What's it worth losing? 561 00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:03,690 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 562 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:04,680 Yeah. 563 00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:06,570 It's a, it's a big thought, isn't it? 564 00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:11,940 I, um, I obviously just think that whole thing of like paying attention to, you 565 00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:18,360 know, just being, being sort of aware and paying attention and looking for where 566 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,310 God's at work in your sort of everyday. 567 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,280 I think it's something that I'm constantly challenged to do. 568 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,360 It's like you. 569 00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:29,370 Like Jesus wasn't always working in the sort of like obvious places 570 00:35:29,370 --> 00:35:31,320 in the synagogue or in the temple. 571 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,910 He, you know, in the religious spaces of his day, he was like, you know, 572 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,030 working with someone, you know, he's just sitting on the pavement. 573 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:40,290 He's a blind man or. 574 00:35:40,905 --> 00:35:46,125 You know, he, he was teaching kind of crowds, um, who were passing by. 575 00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:50,805 And I just, it makes me think like some, quite often God's at work in 576 00:35:50,805 --> 00:35:54,435 the places where we least expect it or we're not necessarily looking for him. 577 00:35:54,435 --> 00:35:59,715 So for me, I know, you know, I'm expecting God speaks to me when I work 578 00:35:59,715 --> 00:36:04,005 into, walk into a church or, you know, maybe when I spend a bit of time reading 579 00:36:04,005 --> 00:36:07,845 my Bible or when I come something like Crowd Church like this, I'm expecting 580 00:36:07,845 --> 00:36:09,975 God to speak to me through the talk. 581 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,730 Like, how much do I pay attention in my day to day life as I'm walking 582 00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:20,160 around working, taking my little one around, you know, whatever it is, 583 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,020 like doing the jobs around the house. 584 00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:25,350 How much am I looking for God to be working when I'm on the 585 00:36:25,355 --> 00:36:30,420 school run, or you know, in my everyday non-religious like space. 586 00:36:31,140 --> 00:36:32,940 And that's the thing that always challenges me. 587 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:37,320 It's like, you know, God's, you know, the Bible shows us that God's really at work. 588 00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:42,839 In those ordinary spaces and the everyday spaces of life and yeah, 589 00:36:42,839 --> 00:36:44,609 that's, I find that challenging too. 590 00:36:46,589 --> 00:36:46,950 Yeah. 591 00:36:47,819 --> 00:36:51,959 Dan Orange: Um, it's, 592 00:36:55,049 --> 00:36:57,169 I'm trying to form, form the question, but Yeah. 593 00:36:57,999 --> 00:37:04,129 I agree with you.. 594 00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:04,449 Yeah. 595 00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:05,569 If God. 596 00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:08,460 Perhaps some of it comes back to religion, doesn't it? 597 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,410 Even just in our, how we live our lives that, like you said, when we're reading 598 00:37:13,410 --> 00:37:15,360 a Bible, we expect God to speak to us. 599 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,440 When we're at church, we do, and that's, Yeah, some it, it's good. 600 00:37:19,860 --> 00:37:20,760 Absolutely. 601 00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:27,990 But it can be that religion bit as well, that God surely speaks 602 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:29,910 to us just in the day to day. 603 00:37:30,270 --> 00:37:33,960 Just when we're, like you say, just when we're out and about because he's. 604 00:37:35,895 --> 00:37:38,415 He doesn't confine himself to church. 605 00:37:38,415 --> 00:37:43,065 He doesn't confine himself to those dedicated times, which is, which is 606 00:37:43,065 --> 00:37:47,055 amazing that, that we serve a God. 607 00:37:47,655 --> 00:37:49,935 We don't serve religion, We don't serve a set of rules. 608 00:37:49,935 --> 00:37:51,075 We serve a living God. 609 00:37:51,675 --> 00:37:53,245 I love, Yeah, I love that. 610 00:37:54,404 --> 00:37:54,615 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 611 00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:55,995 Makes all the difference, doesn't it? 612 00:37:57,255 --> 00:38:00,015 And I think that that call to pay attention as well. 613 00:38:00,015 --> 00:38:05,115 It's, you know, it rings really true to me because, um, I think we live 614 00:38:05,115 --> 00:38:07,035 in such a distracted age, don't we? 615 00:38:07,095 --> 00:38:12,745 Like, you know, we just have a lot of entertainment and social media and. 616 00:38:13,515 --> 00:38:17,595 You know, we, we we're always on our devices and our mobile phones, like 617 00:38:17,595 --> 00:38:20,535 we're not, a lot of the time, we're not paying attention to what's in front 618 00:38:20,535 --> 00:38:24,405 of us or to people who are in front of us or the things that are happening 619 00:38:24,405 --> 00:38:27,735 in front of us, because we're kind of half somewhere else, aren't we? 620 00:38:27,735 --> 00:38:28,486 We're always mm-hmm. 621 00:38:29,505 --> 00:38:32,475 Multitasking and like technology's wonderful. 622 00:38:32,475 --> 00:38:35,805 It's like, you know, enabling us to do this now and we've got people in 623 00:38:35,805 --> 00:38:39,045 Australia and we've got people, I think we've got someone from Kenya. 624 00:38:39,565 --> 00:38:40,055 Yeah. 625 00:38:40,545 --> 00:38:41,625 All sorts of places. 626 00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:46,005 Wales, it's a great technology is such a blessing, but it's also like 627 00:38:46,725 --> 00:38:50,175 because of so much of the technology we carry in our own pockets and 628 00:38:50,415 --> 00:38:53,975 the ability to always be online and always be somewhere else, we also. 629 00:38:54,435 --> 00:38:57,165 Can miss what's in front of us, can't we, in our day-to-day life? 630 00:38:57,165 --> 00:38:59,115 And I am terribly guilty of that. 631 00:38:59,115 --> 00:39:01,755 I am a very easily distracted person. 632 00:39:01,815 --> 00:39:05,745 And um, you know, I do just think that challenge for me is massive 633 00:39:05,745 --> 00:39:11,040 that, um, , you know, it, it's that thing of like, um, you know, do I 634 00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:15,480 notice and am I making space for God in, in those everyday moments? 635 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,589 Because I think our culture and the way the world is now, it's, 636 00:39:19,649 --> 00:39:23,100 it's harder and harder to be fully present, isn't it, in the moment 637 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,810 and with what's in front of you. 638 00:39:24,814 --> 00:39:27,270 And I think, how much am I making space for God? 639 00:39:27,509 --> 00:39:32,490 How much am I just filling every spare second my day, scrolling online or you. 640 00:39:33,915 --> 00:39:38,265 When God could be speaking to me or be wanting to do something, and I 641 00:39:38,484 --> 00:39:41,924 dunno, I find that that's a constant challenge to me at the moment. 642 00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:43,754 I just, it's something I'm mulling on a lot. 643 00:39:43,935 --> 00:39:49,395 I feel like we're not very present as a tendency, like our whole culture. 644 00:39:49,395 --> 00:39:53,004 It's not, it's not about being present here and nose Yeah. 645 00:39:53,384 --> 00:39:55,125 Wanting to work in the moment. 646 00:39:56,820 --> 00:40:00,060 Dan Orange: We, we sort of think it is with information, don't we think? 647 00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:03,950 Well, we've got, we must be present because we get information constantly 648 00:40:04,259 --> 00:40:05,460 to us about what's happening. 649 00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:07,800 But that's just living. 650 00:40:08,460 --> 00:40:12,930 It can just be living a different life, living a life of, of other people or of 651 00:40:12,930 --> 00:40:16,860 events, not, not what we're doing now. 652 00:40:19,305 --> 00:40:21,375 Anna Kettle: Just having a look at what comments we've got. 653 00:40:21,375 --> 00:40:25,005 So Miriam saying that she thought it was special talk because it 654 00:40:25,005 --> 00:40:26,475 was really about God loving us. 655 00:40:26,475 --> 00:40:30,645 And I think that goes back to the, the point about, um, Jesus 656 00:40:30,645 --> 00:40:32,025 choosing to lay down his life. 657 00:40:32,025 --> 00:40:34,885 And I think, yeah, that was incredible. 658 00:40:35,265 --> 00:40:35,595 Dan Orange: Yeah. 659 00:40:35,595 --> 00:40:42,345 And I was just, as, as Miriam said, that I thought he, um, healed that 660 00:40:42,345 --> 00:40:45,405 blind man, but he, he risked his life. 661 00:40:46,350 --> 00:40:48,780 Just to heal him in a way, didn't he? 662 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,330 Yeah. 663 00:40:49,330 --> 00:40:51,420 He, the, he could have got away with things. 664 00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:52,770 He could have just talked. 665 00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:57,210 Um, but the Pharisees wanted to stone him doing it on a Sabbath, 666 00:40:57,570 --> 00:41:01,290 But that man was worth It. 667 00:41:01,390 --> 00:41:02,570 Was worth, Yeah. 668 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,480 Um, being potentially stoned. 669 00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:10,230 It was worth all the abuse that that man could now see. 670 00:41:12,570 --> 00:41:13,020 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 671 00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:13,080 Yeah. 672 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,380 That's all right. 673 00:41:13,950 --> 00:41:14,160 That's. 674 00:41:15,585 --> 00:41:16,935 So look what else we've got here. 675 00:41:21,435 --> 00:41:25,405 Dan Orange: I think it's such a great analogy that we don't, we don't 676 00:41:25,405 --> 00:41:26,745 even have to stretch it too far. 677 00:41:26,835 --> 00:41:32,835 You know, he's blind and he can see that God wants to come just in 678 00:41:35,055 --> 00:41:39,285 that's that, that he wants to bring clarity, but it's, it's that big. 679 00:41:39,345 --> 00:41:41,955 He wants to give us life so we can be. 680 00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:46,020 We're alive without. 681 00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:48,390 I think we sang a song at church this morning. 682 00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:52,590 It had something like lines saying where we were alive without breathing. 683 00:41:53,130 --> 00:41:53,910 We're here. 684 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,150 But God wants to come and bring that breath he wants to bring. 685 00:41:57,540 --> 00:42:02,340 Um, John 10 10 says that life in all its fullness, all its abundance. 686 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,210 Anna Kettle: Um, yeah. 687 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:04,610 Esther read that, didn't she? 688 00:42:04,830 --> 00:42:05,910 That was part of the passage. 689 00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:07,710 So yeah. 690 00:42:08,670 --> 00:42:10,560 Dan Orange: He wants to give, give us fullness. 691 00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:11,790 Um, yeah. 692 00:42:13,185 --> 00:42:17,595 Matt, let's put it on Matt crew, put it on about, um, getting in contact with us. 693 00:42:17,595 --> 00:42:21,524 Cause if you've got, if you're watching this at a later date or even now, 694 00:42:21,529 --> 00:42:28,544 please just, um, feel free just to send DM through, uh, at Crowd Church. 695 00:42:28,904 --> 00:42:29,955 Get in contact with us. 696 00:42:29,959 --> 00:42:33,674 If you want to know more about God, you want to know more about who he is. 697 00:42:34,484 --> 00:42:42,435 Um, we don't do this for fun or to be on YouTube, , Um, we do this to tell 698 00:42:43,965 --> 00:42:45,165 Anna Kettle: cause we're not that professional. 699 00:42:46,055 --> 00:42:49,155 Dan Orange: No, I'd have to get my buttons pressed much, much better.. 700 00:42:49,845 --> 00:42:54,405 Um, we do it because we wanna tell people, tell you about Jesus 701 00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:58,455 because his worth it is that's, it's night and days, black and white. 702 00:42:58,485 --> 00:43:04,515 It's being blind and it's being able to see that's who God came 703 00:43:04,515 --> 00:43:06,555 for, came for the individual. 704 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:07,875 I wrote that down in my notes. 705 00:43:08,924 --> 00:43:13,484 That, um, and Esther meant to do it, that he came first as individuals. 706 00:43:13,544 --> 00:43:20,984 So he came for the, the Good Shepherd as a flock, but he came as individual sheep. 707 00:43:21,134 --> 00:43:23,564 He wasn't gonna allow one of us to get out. 708 00:43:23,625 --> 00:43:25,694 And he says he's come to give us eternal life. 709 00:43:26,745 --> 00:43:27,165 Anna Kettle: Hmm. 710 00:43:29,084 --> 00:43:29,475 Yeah. 711 00:43:29,924 --> 00:43:34,995 And there's, there's quite a lot in the Bible about like, um, The good Shepherd 712 00:43:34,995 --> 00:43:39,435 isn't there, and him being willing to go for one, you know, it's that, that 713 00:43:39,435 --> 00:43:43,035 thing of like, he'll leave the 99 to go and look for the one lost sheep. 714 00:43:43,604 --> 00:43:48,645 So it is about the whole flock, but it's also about, again, it's about individuals 715 00:43:48,645 --> 00:43:50,084 and that that's what springs to mind. 716 00:43:50,084 --> 00:43:51,924 I, I sort hear that and yeah. 717 00:43:51,944 --> 00:43:55,455 I loved what Esther had to say about it was they seeing him 718 00:43:55,455 --> 00:43:59,055 move and reveal himself to an individual in a really personal way? 719 00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:01,680 And meeting their really personal needs. 720 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,899 And then it was a really practical need, wasn't it? 721 00:44:03,899 --> 00:44:05,129 Like you couldn't say. 722 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:05,819 Yeah. 723 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,790 Um, and, and yeah. 724 00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:11,580 And will say that thing of like, he's, you know, the good 725 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:13,740 shepherd to everyone and Yeah. 726 00:44:13,740 --> 00:44:16,080 I like, I liked how she pulled the two quite different 727 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,370 chapters together in a way. 728 00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:18,240 Yeah. 729 00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:22,140 And there's that thread through all of that about Jesus revealing himself. 730 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,370 Yeah. 731 00:44:23,970 --> 00:44:24,359 Dan Orange: Mm. 732 00:44:25,649 --> 00:44:25,920 Yeah. 733 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,920 Cause yeah, definitely. 734 00:44:28,245 --> 00:44:34,275 . Yeah, the, shepherd says that he keeps us, he keeps us, that we can't 735 00:44:34,275 --> 00:44:35,745 be snatched from his hands as well. 736 00:44:36,525 --> 00:44:38,865 Um, and that's quite a big promise, isn't it? 737 00:44:38,955 --> 00:44:45,735 That he's not just a one trick pony, he's not just gonna come and give you 738 00:44:45,735 --> 00:44:49,935 some good feelings now and then, and that God came that we can have eternal 739 00:44:49,935 --> 00:44:55,305 life and that we can be protected, that he comes to help us through when times. 740 00:44:56,745 --> 00:45:01,754 When times are rough, when things are going on, it's not about the 741 00:45:01,754 --> 00:45:05,895 good times, it's about that he's here for the hard times as well. 742 00:45:06,915 --> 00:45:08,234 Anna Kettle: Yeah, yeah, definitely. 743 00:45:08,535 --> 00:45:09,254 Definitely. 744 00:45:10,575 --> 00:45:14,205 Um, there's also lots of jokes here about like, when is Matt 745 00:45:14,205 --> 00:45:16,035 gonna fly us all out to Australia? 746 00:45:16,095 --> 00:45:19,095 Yes, that's definitely a budget Question back to Matt. 747 00:45:19,095 --> 00:45:23,325 I think, well Matt says he'll take the plaster or visit. 748 00:45:25,125 --> 00:45:26,555 Hard but someone's got to do. 749 00:45:26,625 --> 00:45:27,115 Dan Orange: Yeah. 750 00:45:27,115 --> 00:45:27,475 Yeah. 751 00:45:28,995 --> 00:45:32,025 Anna Kettle: We've got Matt Crew asking for birthday shoutout. 752 00:45:32,115 --> 00:45:34,225 Esther Richards: So there we go. 753 00:45:34,495 --> 00:45:37,215 Dan Orange: Happy birthday on Friday, Matt. 754 00:45:37,695 --> 00:45:39,495 Hope you have a, have a good day. 755 00:45:40,785 --> 00:45:45,715 Catching up a little bit to um, me and Matt, my ages. 756 00:45:45,715 --> 00:45:47,205 Anna Kettle: Cause he's nearly, nearly that old. 757 00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:52,140 Dan Orange: And we've got, um, we're continuing the series next week. 758 00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:55,380 Um, John, chapter 11 next week. 759 00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:57,990 Mm-hmm, We've got Dave Con coming to talk. 760 00:45:58,020 --> 00:45:58,800 Not Coming to talk. 761 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,720 He will be talking online. 762 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:02,070 You can't really come to talk online. 763 00:46:02,490 --> 00:46:07,650 Um, he's talking online, um, with Matt and Phil Watson next week. 764 00:46:07,650 --> 00:46:09,669 So tech will be much better. 765 00:46:10,819 --> 00:46:13,215 Anna Kettle: Oh, it's been great tonight. 766 00:46:13,275 --> 00:46:15,085 Don't, don't do yourself down Dan. 767 00:46:15,135 --> 00:46:19,115 It's better than if I was yes, we're here. 768 00:46:19,715 --> 00:46:20,355 Everyone can see us. 769 00:46:20,775 --> 00:46:21,285 We're good. 770 00:46:21,945 --> 00:46:22,845 That, that's great. 771 00:46:22,850 --> 00:46:25,545 So, uh, yeah, definitely tune in again next week. 772 00:46:25,545 --> 00:46:28,155 Cause Dave Con's a great guy. 773 00:46:28,515 --> 00:46:32,355 He's got lots of good stuff to say, so Yeah, that'll be good. 774 00:46:32,415 --> 00:46:33,645 And they're doing John 11. 775 00:46:33,645 --> 00:46:37,005 So it's following on in the series on the gospel of John. 776 00:46:37,005 --> 00:46:39,320 Is that Yeah, yeah, exactly. 777 00:46:41,410 --> 00:46:42,210 Fabulous. 778 00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:49,260 Dan Orange: I think we're a bit early, but I think we've 779 00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:51,030 answered everyone's questions. 780 00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:54,930 So like I say, if you want to get in touch, wasn't it? 781 00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:55,350 Yeah. 782 00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:56,340 Yeah. 783 00:46:56,910 --> 00:46:58,530 If you wanna get in touch, please get in touch. 784 00:46:58,530 --> 00:47:00,780 If you've got any questions, just send them through. 785 00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:04,260 If you've got any Prayer requests, then we'd love to pray 786 00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:06,750 for you really, really would. 787 00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:07,710 So, yeah. 788 00:47:07,710 --> 00:47:08,250 Thanks Anna. 789 00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:10,635 Thanks for being on today. 790 00:47:10,965 --> 00:47:11,005 Pleasure. 791 00:47:11,025 --> 00:47:15,135 And thank you very much, Esther, for bringing that amazing word. 792 00:47:15,135 --> 00:47:15,465 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 793 00:47:16,125 --> 00:47:17,535 All the way from Australia. 794 00:47:17,905 --> 00:47:18,515 Dan Orange: Indeed. 795 00:47:18,815 --> 00:47:19,085 Yeah. 796 00:47:20,625 --> 00:47:21,015 Brilliant. 797 00:47:21,135 --> 00:47:22,755 And we'll see you all next week. 798 00:47:23,475 --> 00:47:23,805 Anna Kettle: Yeah. 799 00:47:23,885 --> 00:47:25,035 Tune in next week guys. 800 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:25,875 Have a great week. 801 00:47:25,875 --> 00:47:26,835 Have a great week Dan. 802 00:47:28,095 --> 00:47:29,205 Dan Orange: And you, goodbye.