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Speaker AThis week we're going to be talking about being AI prepared.
Speaker AThere's a lot of conversations I've been having recently, things about making the implementation of AI simple.
Speaker AA lot of the conversation comes back to how well prepared people are for the implementation of AI.
Speaker AThe answer to that is both it is simple and it's complicated.
Speaker AIt's simple in that the concepts are very, very simple to understand.
Speaker AAnd I'm gonna walk you through that today.
Speaker AIt's complicated in that there's actually a lot of work that needs to happen before you're really ready.
Speaker ASo I'm gonna walk you through now what the concepts are that you need to wrap your head around so that you can get ready to use AI to its fullest potential in your business.
Speaker AAnd then we're going to have some actionable steps at the end that is going to help you implement well so that you can start to save time.
Speaker ASo if you listen to this, you've probably already experimented with artificial intelligence, large language models, generative AI, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker AYou've probably experimented with things like ChatGPT or Claude or Gemini.
Speaker AThere's a million AI tools out there now.
Speaker AAnd it does feel like that we're in a little bit of a AI tech bubble.
Speaker AIt's a bit like the Internet boom of the 90s.
Speaker AWhile we're here, how is it that we can start to leverage this new technology?
Speaker ASo if you've had a play with this technology, you'll know that it can help you brainstorm things and ideate things and help you sort of write faster or think faster or whatever it is.
Speaker AThe premise of it is that it should be able to save you time in doing tasks that were relatively mundane before.
Speaker AThere's a few attitudes that we need to sort of tackle before we get into the tactics.
Speaker AThe primary attitude here is in deciding what task AI is going to take over, what is the purpose of that task?
Speaker AAnd the lens that I look through it with is, is this a human centric task or is this a machine centric task?
Speaker ASo previously, the whole idea around automation has been let the machines do the machine work and let the people do the people work.
Speaker AAnd that is still true of AI.
Speaker AAnd there's a few mistakes that I feel people are making here in the implementation of certain AI systems, particularly around ones that do phone calls and voice generated stuff.
Speaker AI feel like people are better at doing relational things than machines are.
Speaker AI might be crazy in saying that the AI bros are going to come after me for saying that.
Speaker AWhat I'm trying to help people think through is before you even get to voice, there are so many things you can do in your business that will give you process and productivity efficiencies before you get there with the lens and the attitude around the types of tasks that things can take over for you.
Speaker ADon't let it take over your strategy.
Speaker AStrategy is complex, it is difficult, it requires a lot of nuance.
Speaker ADon't let it interact with your customers without having the proper security and controls in place.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AI find it really difficult where people will talk about getting AI to do end to end automation when they don't even understand how the process is supposed to work in the first place.
Speaker AFor example, there's some companies recently I've heard about using AI to make calls.
Speaker AHow they do it is they only will get the AI to take over follow up after the human agent has not been able to get through three times.
Speaker ASo there's a follow up sequence and the AI agent's primary goal is to set an appointment.
Speaker AThat's it.
Speaker AIt's not trying to sell, it's not trying to do anything other than secure a time for the prospect to talk with a salesperson.
Speaker ANow that is a far more appropriate use because you're putting humans first, but you're also not trying to get the AI to make the sale because what goes into making a sale is really complicated and there are many thousands of different buyer journeys that a buyer can go through.
Speaker AThe complexities around that particular buyer situation.
Speaker AAnd you know, if you work through the Bant framework, budget, authority, need time, that's going to be different for every client.
Speaker ASo having a dedicated salesperson is actually really valuable there because they can understand and they can operate in ambiguity.
Speaker AProblem with an AI system is that it finds it very difficult to operate in ambiguity.
Speaker AAnd it is a piece of technology, it is a piece of software, it deals with black and white rules and, and so the amount of context that you need to give it to operate in the same capacity as a person would be massive and it would chew through so many tokens it would be very, very expensive to run.
Speaker ASo before you sort of decide what sort of task do you want to give AI, just think about what impact will implementing this have on my business and what risk does it pose to my business if it gets it wrong.
Speaker AI'm trying to caution people not to get caught up in the hyp now we can turn to how do we get ready?
Speaker ASo there's two foundations that we need to lay here based on the type of tasks that we want an AI agent to take over.
Speaker AThey both end in bases.
Speaker ASo there's the two bases, okay?
Speaker AThere's the first one, which is the knowledge base, and there's the second one, which is the database.
Speaker ASo there's two types of work that AI initially can take care of for you.
Speaker AThe first one is knowledge.
Speaker AIf you have a knowledge base, you can query the knowledge base through the AI agent and it can provide you a response.
Speaker AIt can give you, in time or just in time, information for you to be able to complete a task that you're doing.
Speaker AIt can sort of direct you to do the right thing that's next along a particular process.
Speaker AAnd that's very useful.
Speaker AThe work that goes into that is gonna be different to what you do for a database.
Speaker AThe second one is the database.
Speaker ANow, database is the system behind that's connected to the AI agent for the AI agent to be able to communicate with and to do things in.
Speaker ASo I'll give you an example.
Speaker AI use an ASANA workspace, and in there is a series of projects.
Speaker AWhat I sometimes do is I'll be talking with Claude and I'll be saying, hey, this thing that we've been talking about, can you now create for me a series of tasks in Asana so I can go and keep track of completing those things?
Speaker ASo what it will then do is, because I've got ASANA connected to it, it will go and it will add things to a database, to a task database in Asana, for me to keep track of.
Speaker AIt doesn't need a terrible lot of knowledge to be able to go and do that.
Speaker AIt will literally just create the task like it's been told to.
Speaker ANow, how do we bring all of that together?
Speaker ASo how do we combine a knowledge base with a database with an AI agent to supercharge the outputs that it can do and the quality of those outputs?
Speaker ASo if I have a process around how I manage a project, there's going to be understanding the requirements of that project, there's going to be setting up the project, all those things.
Speaker AIf I have documented the knowledge into a knowledge base and then I've connected that with context around how it should act with a database, it is now going to give me a much better result.
Speaker ASo it might change the way that it names tasks.
Speaker AOkay, I haven't prescribed that before, but the way that you name a task is not a Database activity.
Speaker AThe way that you name a task is through a knowledge base.
Speaker AIt is a knowledge activity.
Speaker ASo it's something I could show someone else how to do.
Speaker AIt's knowledge that they would then have, that they can then go and act on.
Speaker AKnowledge is about knowing the database is about the doing, it's the operational side, it's the execution of the knowledge.
Speaker ASo you might be sitting here and go, I don't even have my knowledge documented, I'm starting to use AI.
Speaker AAnd you might go, well, I already know how to do my job, I'm not going to bother documenting that out.
Speaker ABut I'll tell you this, it is more pertinent now, it is more important now more than ever to document the knowledge, even if you are a solo operator.
Speaker AAnd that is because we are now able to automate just based on giving English based prompts to piece of technology.
Speaker ASomething that's never been able to be done before, we can do now.
Speaker APart of that English sort of plain language input is the knowledge on how to do that task and how it's supposed to be done and how the output is supposed to look.
Speaker ASo that includes doing up your templates, doing up how to use those templates, doing up how you know to name them and what fields need to be put where and all of those sorts of things.
Speaker AIf you provide all of that context to an AI agent, you should be able to get a high fidelity result out of that.
Speaker AI'm going to tell you now about how I'm doing this with my own process.
Speaker APart of what I do with clients is I model out processes and we understand what activities need to happen in what order and who does them and what the dependencies of them all are and all those sorts of things.
Speaker AAnd it really helps us understand what improvements we can make in the future.
Speaker AThree years ago I would sit in a room with someone and I would charge by the hour.
Speaker AI would model out a process while people talk to me.
Speaker AEspecially when you're doing this with a group of people, if you're doing it with a team, it can be quite a tough gig to facilitate and model and pay attention and make sure I'm asking the right questions and all that sort of stuff all in the one session.
Speaker ANow I have the ability to take a transcript, I have a custom prompt that I have with Claude where I've told it how to treat different process language, I've told it what formats to use, I've taught it how to model in BPMN properly because the background of BPMN is Just an XML file.
Speaker ASo it's just a piece of code.
Speaker AWhat that means is that given all that context and that knowledge, and I've taught it how I model and I've taught it how my attitude around different levels of detail, I can now take a transcript from a call.
Speaker AThe output of that is a high fidelity process model based on the conversation of that call.
Speaker AIt means that for the most part I don't have to model the initial process anymore, which means I can now spend a higher amount of my time in those conversations asking really good questions and paying more attention to what the person is saying rather than the thing that I'm also doing on the side.
Speaker AOverall, what it allows me to do is to do a much better job with a better outcome for the client because I'm able to start to recognize some of these opportunities for improvement where I may have previously missed them because I had my focus being split across two things.
Speaker ANow that's a fairly sophisticated example.
Speaker AI'm not saying that the first thing that you're going to go and build into an AI agent is something that writes code for you and displays it in a process model type.
Speaker AThat's not the point.
Speaker AThe point is, is that bringing together how knowledge works and giving it a context so that the agent can act for you, that is the difference maker in terms of getting AI to make things faster for you, rather than just being a hype tool that people are building up to be the second coming of Christ.
Speaker AWhat you want to be able to do is you want to be able to feed it your knowledge so that you can get a really good outcome.
Speaker AThe cool part about this though is this.
Speaker AThe old methods of documenting knowledge, so procedures, checklists, templates, they will all.
Speaker ASo even if you document those things, and let's say you had the capacity to do that tomorrow, then the use of those things alone will increase your productivity without an AI agent.
Speaker AI've just seen this with a customer of mine.
Speaker AIn developing out the process, in developing out their related artifacts to make them faster to get agreements on what is a case and what's not a case, when the process should actually run versus when it shouldn't, we've seen in some parts of their process a five times improvement in efficiency, a 500% increase in efficiency, or to put it a different way, a 500% increase in efficiency.
Speaker AThat is amazing.
Speaker AAnd that's without an AI.
Speaker AIf we were to take their templates and how to fill in those templates with the knowledge docs and their checklists, we would Be able to have an AI agent be able to create the letters, the contracts, the whatever it is within a very short period of time.
Speaker AIt makes implementation exponentially easier.
Speaker AEven by not putting in an AI agent, you're getting those benefits.
Speaker ANow you can supercharge those benefits by then building it in because it has those contexts.
Speaker ASo have a think about how you can do that for your business.
Speaker AHave a think about if I'm going to give an AI agent something to do, whether that just be a simple project that you set up in Claude or ChatGPT, or whether that be a custom workflow that you're interacting through, N8N or one of these other tools, one of these other automation tools.
Speaker AWhat knowledge would I need to give it for it to give me the best outcome?
Speaker ASo treat it like a person in that respect.
Speaker ATreat it like someone who has never done the job before.
Speaker AWhat would they need to know if you were going to give them a task on how to do the best job possible for you, I highly recommend you do that.
Speaker AIf you do that, you will be ready to implement AI agents really well.
Speaker AYou can stop talking with ChatGPT and you can actually start doing real AI agentic automation, which is super exciting because if leveraged correctly, business owners out there who are overloaded, who have made the sales but really need to deliver, and they walk the line between getting more sales and delivering quality.
Speaker AThey don't need to decide or have a choice on that anymore, they can do both.
Speaker AThat's super exciting for me and I think that should be really exciting for you as well.
Speaker ABecause I see you, I see you working those 60, 70 hour weeks and I think that even though you might get fulfillment out of what you do, there is more to life than work.
Speaker AMy desire is that you are prepared, you are equipped to implement things in your business, implement systems in your business that work, that have a higher chance of delivering on the benefits that they promise.
Speaker ASo that is the episode for this week.
Speaker AThank you so much for listening today.
Speaker AYou could have been doing a million other things but you decided to come and hang out with me and learn how you can be ready to start to implement AI agents in your business.
Speaker AAnd for that I want to thank you for you and your time.
Speaker AThank you so much, so much.
Speaker AThanks so much for listening.
Speaker AI'll see you in a fortnight.