WSC Intro/Outro: This is when Spirit calls and you on your

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Rev. Rose Hope: I am excited to introduce you to our featured

guest today, Jennifer Scott Leblanc. Jennifer is a natural

healer, a gifted, intuitive and teacher. She is passionate about

helping others release emotions, physical pain and heal in a way

that promotes personal and spiritual growth. Her

individualized approach gives each client a personalized

experience where she provides insight and guidance regarding

their journey in healing. Clients often say that her calm,

welcoming vibe puts them at ease immediately, and they report

feeling lighter, happier, restored and inspired after a

session. As a Reiki teacher, Jennifer often shares tips to

help manage anxiety, establish self care routines and maintain

balance long after a session, her practice includes Reiki

healing, chakra balancing, Gua Sha cupping, shiatsu, TCM,

acupressure, EEM and yoga. Please join me in welcoming our

guest today. Jennifer, hello, everyone. So happy to be back

with you on another edition of When Spirit calls. We are diving

into some fun stuff today with our guest, Jennifer. Hi,

Jennifer.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Hi. I'm excited to be here.

Rev. Rose Hope: I am so excited that you're here, and you know

you and I got to meet very recently within this last year,

because you host the most amazing events, these wellness

events that you've been doing. And I just absolutely loved

everything about you and the work that was being done. So I

was so excited that you agreed to come on this podcast, because

I think you're doing such incredible work in the world.

And I had never, I didn't even know what shiatsu was. So yes,

we'll get to that later. Folks, don't worry. But for now,

Jennifer, will you tell us about your beautiful adventure in

becoming the woman you are today? When and how did spirit

call you to the work that you're doing? So a little bit of a

backstory

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: might have been a little dramatic.

Rev. Rose Hope: Hey, we're okay with that here.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: So in 2009 my husband and I, my

sister, my four children, were in a head on collision. So, yes,

so it was basically a bonk to the head. Right. Come on. You

gotta and apparently I have to do it for my kids and other

people, not for me, but I think a lot of times it goes that way,

right, because we're programmed to be givers and not about

taking care of ourselves. So in the process, I and probably

about 2010 April, I had my mom and I and one of my aunts

decided to take a Reiki class. I had no idea what I was signing

up for. Absolutely no idea. I was just like, What is this? But

at the time, my kids were still having nightmares from there was

Rev. Rose Hope: some trauma attached. Can I just fill in a

little bit of a gap for the audience? Because, like, they

want to make sure everyone was actually okay from that

accident.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: So every everybody survived. It was a

head on collision on a highway. So we were going 120 Whoa, yes.

So there are other aspects to it that are kind of neat. And

looking back at it now it's, I'm gonna say it's cool, like, I

know it sounds awful, but there are aspects of it that are

fascinating.

Rev. Rose Hope: It is fascinating to me because my

history was in EMS, so I would be called, I would be the

ambulance coming with those accidents, and when we had head

on collisions, many of them were fatal, yes, many, many, many of

them. So the fact that all of you survived going that speed,

yes, on a highway is like to me, like my mind is like, what

everyone survived like, I'm struggling to actually wrap my

head around that. So I felt like it was important for me to bring

that to the surface, because that in itself, is a miracle to

me.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Yeah, and it was, it was little

cheery. It was so by April, I took that right. He level one,

and I've, I've always had the connection, but not the words to

describe the connection. Ah, like I couldn't articulate it. I

had no idea. So these the courses that I took started

giving me words, started giving me the knowledge of actually

what it was, right, and not really having any education on

it.

Rev. Rose Hope: You were an energy healer basically your

whole life, but didn't really know it. Like you knew that

there was thing. You knew that there was connection, but you

didn't know it. Know it,

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: yes, yeah, and I couldn't articulate

it, right? Yeah, we're not given the training, any type of

training for that. No, right, exactly. There's lots of

programming, but the knowledge to do what you want with it

isn't there, and the wording and all of that. So my response was,

I, I just did what the Course told me to do. Okay, so I gave

my kids a little Reiki, set up on the kitchen table, on a

sleeping bag. Wow. You know the training is you're just

connecting, and you are just the conduit. Yeah, you and the

intention is for the person receiving, right? So you have no

control over how it's going to be received. So it's either

received or it's not received. So my kids that were having

nightmares were 10, 1214, and 17. Wow. Okay, so all four of

them weren't doing great with this. And my husband and I

actually didn't sleep in the same bed because we were going

from Kid to Kid. Wow. Ironically, my mother gave us,

gave our kids big Christmas bells that year, and those were

the bells hanging on our headboards. Wow. So they'd ring

those bells and we'd go. So we were just alternating beds,

basically. So after that, Reiki level one on a sleeping bag on

my kitchen table, one treatment for me, and there were no more

nightmares, whoa, oh, I got goosebumps. I was like, Oh, what

is going on? What is this? My husband and I were like, what?

Because we were just like, waiting for the bells to ring

right. Wow. And nothing. The kids slipped, and I was like,

All right, what's happening? I'm signing up again, like I just

kept going with anything that sparked interest to me. So I

have, I probably could say, hundreds of certifications like

you. Right from that point on, I was, I've got this, I'm going.

So it's evolved and it's changed. I have my own practice,

I have my own business, I teach, I treat, and I hopefully am

inspiring people to find their way.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, I think this is so beautiful, you know.

And I want to remind our audience that you don't need to

have a head on collision or a near death experience the path.

But

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: yes, listen better than I did.

Rev. Rose Hope: right, like, and I think that's the thing. But

like you said, we're so programmed and so conditioned

and so distracted that it is so easy for us to miss the

intuition. It's so easy for us to Miss Miss the pull or the

call of divine. And so sometimes we have a head on collision as a

wake up call of like, hey, wait a second. I think that there's

more here. And I love that you listened. I love that you leaned

in and you were curious about it. So you have you have your

Reiki. You have shiatsu, which is a form of massage. What other

modalities are in there that you love to utilize?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: So I have reflexology, I teach yoga,

I teach Qigong. Look, there's just a little bit in there,

like, there's a lot going on, yeah, all of them is just

another puzzle piece, right? The picture for me, because it's

very specific for what works with myself, with immediate

family, even, and then within my clinic,

Rev. Rose Hope: yes, I love that you have so many tools in your

toolbox. Because I think one of the challenges. A lot of people

have is they go to a practitioner who does one thing,

and then there's all these other dominoes that also need to be

looked at that don't often get looked at. And then they say,

Well, I did all this treatment. How come it's not working? And

it's be often times because we haven't looked at things quite

holistically. And so I see that you have this very holistic

practice where you can pull from any one of those toolboxes

depending on what that person needs. So it sounds to me like

in a lot of ways, you do a customized approach that, like,

no session is necessary.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: yeah, no, yeah, no, right, yeah.

Rev. Rose Hope: It's like, you know, we all fit under different

needs and different ways in which our bodies can heal. So I

love that you have that. So, okay, Jennifer, so now we've

come full circle. You've recovered. Your family's well

and alive, and everything is good. What are the things? What

are the lessons? What are the the golden nuggets that you

learned through that journey and that experience that you would

love for people to know, that would make their lives better,

easier, healthier, whatever.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: So I've got two big ones. One is self

nurture, and I'm not calling it, don't get me wrong. It's not

pampering. It's not going to a spa. It's not getting your nails

done, it's not getting your hair done. Yes, those are lovely.

Yeah, but nurturing is very close to our heart space, right?

Like, think of nurture as a mother breastfeeding her baby,

so those actions of nurturing yourself is so important, so

important. If you don't have that energy, you have nothing to

give away. You have nothing for anybody else to take care of,

right? Yeah, you just, and you'll burn out. You just, you

hit the wall and you're done, and you're gonna bang your head

against the wall.

Rev. Rose Hope: You know, I have done this so many times in my

life, where I would like, go, go, go, and then I hit the

proverbial wall, right? It was like this crash and burn kind of

energy. I think a lot of us live in that right, like a lot of us

live in that light, right? Right? And so like, what if we

don't know what that means to self nurture? What are some

examples? I mean, you said not the spa, but like, what are some

of the things that you do to self nurture?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: I walk in nature. I live in the

country, so it's a gift. I go walk through canola fields. I go

through. We have a creek by close by, so listening to the

birds really connecting to the trees the grass.

Rev. Rose Hope: Love that. What's huge?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Yes, yeah, and that's free.

Rev. Rose Hope: Ah, this is the thing. I think it wasn't very

long ago I saw posts that went out that said, here are the

things you need to stay healthy. And it was water, sun, outdoors,

you know? It was like all of the things that are free and

available to us, and yet so many of us forget that that's where a

lot of our nourishment comes from, right? Yeah? And, well, I

think that, yeah, it's such an invitation for us to allow for

us to access all of those wonderful, wonderful free

offerings available from, from God, from created, yeah, yeah.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Well, and, and there's, there is

actually a lot of other free stuff that you can get onto

YouTube, yes, like, if you're looking for a class to nurture

yourself, you can do yoga. It's online, it's free. Yeah, you can

have it. Like, you can find a Qigong class online, free. What

you need to do is find it what works for you, yeah, right.

Like, what works for me may not work for you, right? That's it,

yeah, but you have to be important enough to make the

step to make time for yourself.

Rev. Rose Hope: Ah, the time for ourselves, right? Yeah. I mean,

I think, you know, we have both men and women that listen to

this podcast, but I think for the parents out there, that time

for yourself sometimes feels a little elusive. But you know,

one of the techniques that I used to have when the kids were

little is I would go and shut myself in the bathroom, and I

would just sit on the floor and I would write, or I would just

take a few breaths, like sometimes it was only three

minutes until I got mommed, but I created the time, and I think

that's so important as parents, to create the time, the space

for you. And I know it's so easy to say, Well, I have. No time.

Well, you might get up a little bit earlier, or you might stay

up a little later to give yourself the time, or you might

call in a babysitter and ask for some help to create the time.

Ask for help. What right? So, you know, I think, I think it is

a really important conversation, because I think so many are

trying to pour from empty cups, and many have forgotten, well,

how do I even fill my cup? Like, what does that mean to me?

Right?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Yeah, yeah. And nobody has time. So

it's not about it's not about taking time. It's about making

time. Making taking time. Yeah, just make time. Because yeah,

like, and if you're not going to do it for yourself, do it for

your kids. Do it right for the people you are serving, yeah?

Because if you can't serve them anymore, yeah, yeah, there's

Rev. Rose Hope: right, they are right. There's nothing left to

give. So I love that this is, you know, a priority. And I

think it's important that it becomes a priority for all of

us. Somewhere along the way, we were taught and programmed to

end a condition, to believe that we had to become self

sacrificial, and, yeah, yeah, the martyr energy, right? And

so, you know, I think about, and this isn't to bring this into a

religious conversation, necessarily, but I was raised

Catholic, and so, you know, we talked about Jesus, and Jesus is

still an active part of my spiritual path. And you know,

you think about the ultimate martyr, being Jesus, right,

bearing the cross, and, you know, being crucified for us so

that we didn't have to sacrifice ourselves, right? But yet,

instead, we said, Oh no, I better sacrifice like Jesus did,

even though the whole premise of that process was so that we

could be free to just experience this god given life that we

have. So you know, for those of you listening that are like, Oh

my god, yeah, I keep doing this, or I have trouble and I can't

nurture myself. Really want to invite you to make it a priority

and, and we can't say that strongly enough, yeah, okay,

what's the other one? Is that fun feeling complete? Jennifer,

yes, yes. Okay, so what's the other key bit of information

that you wish you would have known or you learned?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Mine? Number two is acceptance. Hello.

It is huge for me, accepting them for where they're at, being

there for them for where they're at, and being approachable with

that acceptance, right? Not everybody is in the same place,

yeah, and that's huge. I've made a huge difference in my life.

Huge,

Rev. Rose Hope: you know, I love this conversation around

acceptance. We could probably do a whole podcast just around

acceptance, and a big part of it for me was the self acceptance,

accepting myself as I am, because I was such a I was such

an achiever, so I was like perfection. I have to be the

best, or I have to be really good at this, or, you know, and

so, and if I wasn't, then I would only have love for the

parts of myself that were pretty and nice and good, and those

parts weren't so good, it would be like, oh, like, oh, I don't

like that about myself. You know, we push away, and I think

that a big part of this process for us is loving acceptance of

all of our parts, the shadows, the lights, right? So what you

do to help yourself with practicing acceptance? What are

is there? Is there a process, or is it just having an awareness

that, like, you know what, I'm accepting that person where

they're at, even though I would do things differently, right? Or

whatever? Is there anything that you want to add to that?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Well, part of it is taking away the

expectations. Oh, there it is, yeah, and taking away

expectations of what you think it should be, what society, what

culture, what all of it thinks it should be. It's it's not my

life. Why am I trying to plan it out?

Rev. Rose Hope: I love the idea of falling away from the

expectations. You know, it's like, okay, I'm not going to be

attached to any particular outcome, right? I'm not going to

be attached to how I think this person needs to show up, or how

this event needs to go, or whatever it's like. We come into

total acceptance of all things

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: and being in the moment of it like

we often live in. In the future of it or

Rev. Rose Hope: or the past.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: None of it has anything to the moment

that we're in right.

Rev. Rose Hope: You're right. I mean, there only is right now,

after all, isn't there? And so when we can just accept whatever

it is, this showing up, and this is tied to as well, the

experiences that we don't love too, isn't it? Jennifer, right?

Like, you know, it's like we have to be willing, or there's

an invitation, I should say, to be willing to just lovingly

accept what is did you ever read Byron Katie's book? Do you

follow Byron Katie? No, okay, Byron Katie, I'm going to just

throw this out to the audience. Has a wonderful book called

loving what is and the loving what is process really helps us

to come into deeper acceptance for self and for others and for

experiences. And this is what you're really talking about.

You're talking about accepting things the way they are because

to resist is to suffer, and I gotta work

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: to resist it all like it's way

harder, way harder. It is exhausting.

Rev. Rose Hope: Listening, anyone listening out there

that's feeling like they're resisting, what is it's

exhausting, isn't it? Right? So this, it is so exhausting, and

we don't even realize it's so exhausting until we accept and

realize, oh my god, it's so much easier just to accept what it

is, even though I might think it's not the best, even though

it might not be the way I wanted it to go, that step is huge,

right?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: It is, it is,

Rev. Rose Hope: yeah, in the acceptance, also, folks, you

receive more value if we're so busy resisting, what is so busy

resisting? What? Not only do we leak a lot of energy, right? Not

only is that exhausting, but when we're resisting, we're

blocking ourselves from receiving the actual value of

the experience, right? And so we can't take the lesson in

learning once we accept what is, then all of a sudden, it opens

up that portal of like, oh, there's a lesson here, and

there's this here, and there's an insight here, and then we

receive more. So we cannot stress this acceptance piece

enough, right?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: It is, it is a big one. Those are like

the two that really, really turned and gave me more peace in

life. Wow, yeah, and being able to live and be joyful in the

moment, right? I have no control over it. The only thing I have

control over is my response, yeah. And you know what? Here it

is, sometimes freaking funny,

Rev. Rose Hope: yeah. It can be. I love that you've simplified

this so much, Jennifer, because really what you've done is

you've said, okay, in my experience, these were the two

key components that changed everything, my self, nurturing,

my ability to take care of myself, and my willing to accept

all that is. And folks, it can be that simple. And I think

that's a reminder for all of us, because oftentimes it's like we

want to over complicate it, you know, right? Oh, my god, yeah,

amazing. Jennifer, is there anything else that's on your

heart that you feel compelled to share? I know we're getting

already to our time. It just has flown by together. But is there

anything else that maybe a quote, or something else that is

showing up for you right now that you feel you need to share

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: so it kind of goes along with the self

nurture. Part of it, my whole outlook on like energy life, all

of it is where the mind goes. Energy flows, and blood and

tissue follow. Oh, when we are Did you know blood and tissue

follow? I didn't. I didn't know that one. I love that Yes. So

there's so many like the emotions that we hold within our

body can create huge trauma, and it's been evident in the last

weeks that it's shown up quite a bit. And there are things that

are out of our control that, you know, if we obsess on them, or

if we focus on those things, it can cause illness, it can cause

types of death within the body physically, it can go into our

mind and create other things besides physical trauma. And

this is where the book can come in, right? But it is really self

nurturing. Can. Be also stress management, right, right, yeah,

so managing what you allow in to make your body toxic.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, yes. And not just like food wise, but you're

talking nerve shots, you're talking emotion, you're talking

things that we might

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: all of it has a chemical reaction

within the body. Well,

Rev. Rose Hope: yes, and this is fascinating to me. I mean, we

could have a whole nother podcast on this because, you

know, I look at the fear mongering in our social media,

you know, oh, the world is coming to an end, or, like,

whatever that might be. And so we have been thrown or

catapulted into this fear plague. I call it right? So if

we let our mind play in that narrative and play in that

story, like you said, where your mind goes, energy flows, and

blood and tissue follow, and so we wonder why we're having

chronic illness epidemics, and it is all tied back to what

we're feeding ourselves, emotionally, energetically and

not

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Yes, not what we're telling ourselves and

what we're the stories, yeah, yeah, yes, about ourselves, like

the low vibrations of shame, guilt, oh, grief, fear, all of

those are stagnant Emotions that in sitting in the body.

Stagnation is disease, so it's not good, not a good place to

be, yeah? So nurturing yourself to stay out of that and creating

more for yourself, yeah, yes, yeah.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love that. I love that you brought this to

the surface for us, because we can master our minds. Everybody

you have power over your thoughts. Not every thought that

comes into your mind is true, and I want to invite you to

challenge those thoughts a lot more and see if you can shift

those thoughts to more positive thoughts, so that your body can

be healthier, more resilient, and all of those wonderful

things. But if you're struggling you need some help, you can go

and see Jennifer. So this is where you're coming in. And so

can you tell us about what you've got as your offers, what

you've got available? I know you've got a beautiful retreat

coming up in the fall, and so would you just tell us about

that.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: So I have two scheduled retreats in

the fall, October 4 and November 30. They are the Beaumont

wellness retreat. I bring in different modalities. We have

body room. We have a mind room. So body we work through maybe

some yoga, Qigong, sound bath. Mind room is about

intellectually. Maybe we need nutrition, maybe we need some

inspirational speakers, bringing it together as a community. It

is such a special, special retreat. It is very close to my

heart, and I love every moment of it. And the women that come

in to present are absolutely priceless, amazing women that

have inspired me to keep going so we just do

Rev. Rose Hope: it's amazing. I had the privilege of coming in

the spring, and I absolutely loved it. So thank you for

creating the space for us to come together. Now if we want to

come to you for services. Jennifer, how can we find you

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: so yourbalance.net is my website. I

have so many things that you can sign up for, or you can some

come see me personally. Many, many classes going on. I teach

ACU yoga online in the fall. That's a combination of doing

acupressure, a little bit of yoga and then a meditation to

close. So that's nice, because you don't have to go anywhere. I

have a chakra class that I teach. It's an eight class. It

goes through we do the work of every chakra. Awesome. A lot of

us know about it and talk about it and teach it even, but never

step into it and actually do the work for those spaces within the

body. Wow, right? Yeah, wonderful, yeah. I do teach the

Reiki classes as well. So 123, and four. And I also teach the

shiatsu program. So the shiatsu program is a big one,

Rev. Rose Hope: yeah, and so I promised everyone you would kind

of explain shiatsu. For those that have never heard of it

before, could you just give us a quick overview?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Sure. So the shiatsu I teach is a

combination of Zen Japanese and traditional Chinese acupressure.

So what it looks at the body as an ecosystem, our organs are the

oceans and the lakes and the channels that run through. Them

are the rivers and streams. Okay, so all the organs are

lumped into elements. All the elements coordinate with our

Earth and our ecosystem, all creating harmony. So if there's

stagnation in the lake, there's going to be stagnation within

the rivers and streams, right? Yeah, yeah, yes. The the organs

tell a story. We do a reading on the organs, and it tells the

story of what's going on in the body.

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow, so and then putting pressure on the body in

certain points to open up the floodgates, so to speak.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: So if you're familiar with

acupuncture, it's all the same points, except the treatment is

manually touched, yes, mostly every single point in the body,

every single time you've hit the table.

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow, amazing. Thank you. Thank you for

explaining that. Yeah,

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: I'll let just let you know how it feel.

It feels like chiral massage and physio all put together.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, oh.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Then, yes.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love that. That's a wonderful way for us to

wrap our minds around what that experience might be like. Oh,

Jennifer, this has been so great. We are pretty much at the

end, and I know we're going to have those links in the show

notes so you can connect with Jennifer after that. Anything

else, any final words, anything we missed Jennifer before we go?

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: No, I love you.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love you too. Thank you so much. What a fun

way to end and we love all of you. Thank you so much for being

here. Jennifer, thank you so much for listening. For all of

you that are tuning into this episode, please explore.

Jennifer, please lean in if you are feeling the poll as you

know, and until next time be well, can't wait to be with you

on another episode of when Spirit calls. Thanks, everyone.

Thanks. Jennifer, bye.

Jennifer Scott-LeBlanc: Thank you. Bye.

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