What to Read Next Podcast Amy Knupp and Laura Yamin
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Laura Yamin: [00:00:00] Hi, Amy. Welcome to the What Your Next podcast.
Amy Knupp: Thank you. Thanks for having me.
Laura Yamin: So happy to have you here. So tell us a little bit about yourself.
Amy Knupp: I live in a small town in Wisconsin. I have a three generation home right now. My mom lives with us, she's 89, and our adult daughter lives with us and I'm married. We have of cats four cats and yeah. It in a nutshell. I don't know. What else do you wanna know? I've been writing for a long time.
I'm probably old school. I originally wrote for Harlequin back in the day. My first book was published in 2006, and then I went indie in like, I don't know, like 2012 maybe.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: So, I'm a slow writer. I'll say I only have 30 some books, which some people are like, oh my gosh, you have 30 books. But as you guys know,
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: romance writers write a book a month.
So that's not me. I wish I could write faster, but yeah, so I write contemporary romance. Small town is what I'm writing right now, and I [00:01:00] characters are my jam. So, yeah, I like writing heart tagging. Emotional reads that are kind of, I call 'em romcom adjacent. My, my
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: I have a llama. And I think if you have a llama, you can't be too serious. So
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: I a llama in my books. Let me clarify that.
Laura Yamin: I was gonna say, I was like, damn, you got a mama in Wisconsin?
Amy Knupp: A llama in my, a fictional llama. I actually, I do have a big stuffed llama in my office too. But
Laura Yamin: yeah. Yeah. , My grandfather's Peruvian. So my mom actually met my grandfather when she was 18. He was not in the picture when she was growing up, so she went to Peru and she came back with llama and customs actually got rid. They thought she was bringing drugs to Lama.
She was so mad. Like to this day, like this is when she was 18, my mom was in her sixties and she's like, to this day it took away my llama, my Lama way, like beautiful Lama.
Amy Knupp: That's llama trauma.
Laura Yamin: So, [00:02:00] yeah. Like, yeah. I come from like, part of my family is Peruvian, so I do come from the Azar.
Amy Knupp: That's awesome.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: We need to go, we need to do a llama excursion trip.
Laura Yamin: Me too. Me too.
Amy Knupp: I.
Laura Yamin: So I have so many questions about your journey because I think it's like something interesting to talk about. Someone who started with Harlequin and then turning to Indie. Talk to us about your experience with Harlequin, because I think people don't know. I think in this day and age, people think they're ai.
It's like, no. The Harken around for a long time. It's a bread butter of, the foundational romance. There's very specific rules and what to write in Hargan.
Amy Knupp: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: What is a category? Romance and like how, the plotting and stuff. So what help you like talk to us about the experience of writing for category romances.
What is category romance and specifics? And then we'll talk about how that helped you with indie when you transitioned over to indie.
Amy Knupp: Yeah. So category romance back in the day before Indie publishing, you.
Have a lot of choices. was the only game in town. Not category [00:03:00] romance, but you know, going through a publisher was the only game in town. And like, category romance, it's a little bit shorter, but I wrote for their longest line, which was Super Romance.
So
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: I'm basically still writing the same length right now,
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: is like 80,000 words. And I don't know what that equates to in pages or but there were, like, my line was one of the. It had the least restrictions, I would say. But it did have restrictions. Like you had a word count. You had to hit your word count, like within, a couple thousand words.
With my line, it was, there was sex scenes were allowed. I don't think they were required, but you could, there's little rules you found out. I don't think they're ever written on any, like nobody ever.
Laura Yamin: See it was in
Amy Knupp: was
Laura Yamin: focus.
Amy Knupp: but like, you can't use the word God during a sex scene. my fun, my best example. It's
Laura Yamin: Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Knupp: writing a love scene and have them say anything that's not, oh my god. Like, and it's like there's a lot [00:04:00] less swearing, very limited swearing. And I'm a kind of a potty mouth, so it was like. Then edit it out, so,
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: there was, than that, there was a lot of freedom in my line, but what I liked about writing for category was I was a new writer. I'm one of those people with the more choices you have, the more paralyzed I get.
Laura Yamin: Yes.
Amy Knupp: some. Some structure like, okay, well I know I'm writing an 80,000 word book. I'm, and so like, yeah, it was really different. We had to write for my line, we had to write 20 page synopsis to sell a book and I am now a pants. And so like imagine somebody who's destined to be somebody who doesn't plot very much. Having to write a 20 page synopsis of what's gonna happen in their book. And so I would always tell my editor, this is not actually what's gonna happen, right? Because it doesn't work that way. So, [00:05:00] but accepting that journey, that was huge for me.
Like, wanted to make that synopsis work. I wanted to write that. I wanted to just have it all planned out and then just write the words because I like the wordsmithing part of it more
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: plotting. And so I think that was kind of fundamental in helping me figure out what my actual process is.
I like that was what my process is not
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: So yeah, there was and it was, but I learned so much from writing for editors. First book I sold to them, I think I probably wrote four full revisions of it. And that is an exercise that. Has helped me with every book because it's like, it allows you to look at something and be able to pluck out a major element and then replace it with something else.
It's like surgery on a book, and that's not like, I don't think that's an inherent skillset a lot of us have.
Laura Yamin: Yes.
Amy Knupp: So it gave me like really valuable mechanics, writing mechanics skills, [00:06:00] and helped me kind of figure out. My process. So when I went indie, it was, I did have this point where I didn't publish for two years 'cause I was like, I don't have any restrictions or guidelines or structure.
Now what do I wanna write? So that was a big thing for me. And I did land in a very similar place, contemporary romance. There's a lot more swear words now and I.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: For better or worse, there's people that hate that, so, I'm like, but this is me. So,
Laura Yamin: Yeah,
Amy Knupp: so
Laura Yamin: I think.
Amy Knupp: super educational.
Laura Yamin: I think in some ways it's kind of like a foundation of like learning what works, what doesn't work for you. And I choose, suffer from executive function. Freezing of paralyzing. I'm like, I got too many choices, either too many choices or no choices. It's black or white. And actually having someone to give you a structure of the parameters and to do this, and then I rebel them because it's like, why?
Why would you give me structure? I know I need it, but why do you give me that?
Amy Knupp: [00:07:00] Yeah. It's like learning the rules and then you can break them kind of
Laura Yamin: Yes. Yeah.
Amy Knupp: I,
Laura Yamin: I think in some ways it gives you the foundation to like, yes, you can write a book. Yes, you have proven over and that you can do it. And now you're like, okay. Then you get the freedom of like going Indy and Indie has its own set of rules, and so it's like, like market and jobs that are included and writing Indy that you may not have, in the Harley, like they're getting distributed to the Walmarts and the spaces and stuff like that.
You now, as an indie, have to figure out. How people
Amy Knupp: yeah,
Laura Yamin: you know.
Amy Knupp: exactly. you market it? Although I will say most publishers don't market a lot
But Yeah, absolutely. It's like how to do it all and
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Amy Knupp: I, it's one of the things I love about Indie Publishing is I love control.
Laura Yamin: Yes.
Amy Knupp: love, I did have some covers with Harlequin that I like.
I had one that, I'm sorry, but I thought the hero looked like Spock on the cover and. And it's little things like that just kind of added up. So when [00:08:00] Indie became a possibility, I'm like, oh, I'm so in for that.
Laura Yamin: Yeah, and you were in the early indie days because the Indy, this is after Twilight, 50 Shades of Gray, is that era where we're like the boom that happened for indie. Talk to us about that, transition over to indie and then looking back. 'cause it's been, what, 13 years? It's, it is more than a decade at this point.
Amy Knupp: yeah.
Laura Yamin: Trends have changed it dramatically. Like even I've been doing this for 10 years and I can see like shift really major shifts happening even in the indie space that we didn't see. So 10 or 15 years ago,
Amy Knupp: I would say I missed the boom. Like, I'm not a, I'm not a trendsetter, I'm not a trailblazer. So like Indie came along, I'm like, that's kind of cool, but I don't know, and I was still under contract with Harlequin and I feel like the boom happened. didn't publish my first indie. Full length book until 2017. 'Cause
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: have that [00:09:00] period of 1:00 AM I writing and and that's the only time in my career that I have. I have manuscripts that I didn't finish 'cause I was experimenting, so I
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: the big boom. And by the time I published I thought, I'm like, you hear about the big boom and like people just publish and people and they sell.
And I kind of hit like right after that. And so I published and it didn't just sell. And I'm like what's wrong with this picture? So yeah, that I think I, I came along to Indy. With where it was just starting to be more of a job to get discovered. Yeah, things have changed so much even since 2017.
Like it's amazing what India authors are doing, like with special editions and with running their empires like direct sales. I'm big on direct sales. That was unheard of even really five years ago I would say. So,
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: I love, I personally love the business and marketing side and and it's, I've figured out like the way to make this a career. [00:10:00] course we all wanna write the books
to make it a career, you have to run a business and you have to pivot constantly and. Whatever worked three years ago is most likely not working right now. Like, so
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Amy Knupp: just do the same thing again, and if you're
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: you're probably not progressing.
So
It's a challenge every day. I mean, it's frustrating, of course. It's like, come on, I just learned how to do this and now this doesn't work and I have to learn how to do this.
Laura Yamin: Yeah. I think it's just regular, like we're all doing this, especially in this world. I, and not just in the book world. I think it's just in the world right now. It's like we ought to be nimble. Like things are trending, they're moving really fast. Like what it used to take years or months is not days or hours.
It's like it's overwhelming. And again, you get the overwhelming and then you get paralyzed and you don't do anything and you're like, what am I supposed to do? It's already not
Amy Knupp: Yes. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's true with everything. It's really true with [00:11:00] Indie because you have to really be careful about selecting what you're gonna focus on. Like
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: aren't in Kindle Unlimited, so I am focusing on wide retailers. I'm focusing on my direct sales.
I'm
Focusing on I'm just starting to get into special auditions. I know those are huge and I love 'em, but. They're a little bit harder when you're not writing romantic see, or Dark
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Amy Knupp: or,
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Amy Knupp: so it's a lot.
Laura Yamin: Let's talk about direct sale. 'cause I think, like I, and I just talked to Samantha Chase about being white and like the, all the specifics of it. I think direct sale is something that people don't know that you can buy from the author,
Amy Knupp: yeah.
Laura Yamin: like that specific thing, like, because I think we've been trained to just go to Amazon or to specific retailers and that's what we are gonna get.
'cause we have the reader that move fits to that.
Amy Knupp: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: direct sales is something that people may not know that exists. 'cause I know Kindle Limited has limited, that ability for
Amy Knupp: Yeah.
Laura Yamin: to do so is about that vertical of business, and
Amy Knupp: Yep. It's
Laura Yamin: [00:12:00] yeah.
Amy Knupp: And also, I me off when you need to because I like to talk about
Laura Yamin: That's okay.
Amy Knupp: I said I was on the trail brother user, and that is the exception I've had my direct store for. I think it's three years now. I might be wrong, it might be two, but I think it anyway. Jumped in early because I, the reason I'm why is I don't wanna depend on one company for my
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: Like, and I know that's can be controversial for some people and that's fine. I don't wanna argue about, for me like I see accounts being shut down on Amazon and like their 90% of that person's income and , that's detrimental, their families depending on that. So, I jumped early for direct sales.
It is definitely. An entirely you're, I'm training my readers and I'm, and it's not just my readers, it's like training readers. Period. I love it because I have a marketing background, so it's, it is like a separate business. I still have my traditional author business where I publish to the [00:13:00] five retailers, and I do promotions to build those, but then I have this other business where I sell my books and merchandise on my website and it's a Shopify store and
Laura Yamin: Okay.
Amy Knupp: the tech of it is wonderful.
It's. Like, 'cause I'm not a tech person. It's easy for a reader to use and probably if you're a reader, you've probably bought something on Shopify, whether you realize it or not. Not necessarily books, but like so many little businesses have , Shopify's,
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Amy Knupp: So, and it's funny because you don't realize you've been to Shopify and then you're checking out on another. Website, another business and it's like, do you wanna log into your Shopify? It's like, I didn't know I had a Shopify. So
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: it's really easy to do business on Shopify as a reader. When you buy eBooks from authors on Shopify, you can get those books on your reader no matter what you read on.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: that's one of the biggest fears that readers have. They're delivered by book funnel. And if you're a reader who has ever [00:14:00] downloaded like a free reader magnet, like a bonus epilogue or a free prequel through book funnel, you already have that set up and it is delivered the same way.
And you get an email from Book Funnel saying, here's your ebook. You can read it on online right now, or you can send it to your reader and it will ask you, do you have a Kindle? Do you have a, apple Books or a Cobo reader, whatever, what is your reader? And they, you just check it and it goes there.
Like, I don't know. It's magic. I don't
Laura Yamin: It is magic and it does, I, it has a great audiobook player, by the way, if you sell your and stuff. It is a great, I love listening to audios there. It's like one I can buy directly from the author. Or I may get an, the access from it, but the audio player is excellent. Like,
Amy Knupp: it
Laura Yamin: it doesn't glitch, it doesn't do any magic, and it's a great alternative from not going to Audible, because Audible is another, it's the ecosystem.
I think we I hope we learned this year that, or this week when the internet shut down because everyone depended upon Amazon's web [00:15:00] services.
Amy Knupp: right?
Laura Yamin: put the X in that basket and then the whole internet shut down. Like, not exaggeration, but a lot of things shut down. And it's like, because we depend on one single vendor, it's the same thing.
It's like the house of cart. We kind of have to diversify our income. It's like when we think about investment, we don't invest just one stock. We invest in multiple stocks like we want to, like if something happens, you're not fully like, depression.
Amy Knupp: Right, right. Absolutely. I totally, I, and I agree with you on the book Funnel Audio Reader because, or player, because I'm a total audiobook person and so, if you do all your reading with audio, you can be picky about your player and I
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: It's great. And I also like Cobos and I, yeah, it, they function very similarly too. Audible and
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: their reader or their
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: The other benefits of being direct for me, like I said, it's control, but for readers, I can discount my books and still make more than I'm making when you buy 'em on [00:16:00] Amazon. So, because, Amazon takes 30% off the top all the retailers do, or approximately 30% if they're in a certain price range.
And so. I can, my regular prices are pretty similar to retailers, but I discount like crazy. Like my promotional schedule is, it's on a spreadsheet and it's like I'm running an audio sale every month. I'm running a bundle sale every month. I do a couple ebook sales every month. So, you can save money if you. By direct? Not always, but like, that's one of our things, like if you buy a bundle, you can save 50%, you can save 35%. And, yeah, so
Laura Yamin: okay.
Amy Knupp: benefits for readers too. Money's not going to support a big, huge company.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: these little starving artists
Laura Yamin: Yes, you're supporting author
Amy Knupp: yeah.
Laura Yamin: you, Amy, for talking about this area in direct [00:17:00] sales. 'cause I think it's something that it's not often talked about, especially in this market right now, everything's kinda limited and then it's like, like why? Actually, I used to, before 2016 when I started reading, I was reading a lot of wide authors because.
It was what? It was available. It was like what I can pay and something like, and I think we missed out on authors who are thriving in this space. I think we assume it's just like there's only one way. And it was like, no, there's multiple ways. Readers are not every reader is looking for Kindle Limited, not every reader.
The other part is that your books can be available in the library. They can be purchased. You have that opportunity. So there are opportunities for accessibility that.
Amy Knupp: Yep.
Laura Yamin: Amazon doesn't allow you to so I think it's, I think it's important. IM glad that you're talking about it, and sharing that experience from an author perspective and the fact that it's a business but it's actually not as scary for the reader.
Amy Knupp: Yeah, that's the thing. It really [00:18:00] isn't like, I'm not, like I told you, I'm not a trailblazer, and so like to figure out how to buy from an author and put it on my, I only read on my phone.
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Amy Knupp: remedial, but that intimidates me because I don't wanna learn something new.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: do it once, it's like, okay, that was no big deal.
And it's, everything's in my book Funnel Library and I can
Laura Yamin: Yes.
Amy Knupp: and see, oh, did I already buy that book? It's
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: It's not, there's, it's one step removed from Amazon where you put it in your cart and they're like, you already own this. But, or, you can see the thing that says you already own it, but it, it's. Just one step removed from that. You can, you have everything in your book funnel library and yeah, I think it's, I that's, I love to buy direct now because, 'cause it's easy. 'cause I did it,
Laura Yamin: I think
Amy Knupp: out
Laura Yamin: I'm actually excited to do that. Like I may go to your store and buy you some books because I think it's like a fun little thing to be like, no, actually, and I think how to find it. Obviously get on author's newsletters, if authors that they'll send promotions and stuff.
If you like an author, join your newsletter. Yes. For the [00:19:00] bonus app blog or the bonus content. Because they'll tell, what books they're reading, but they also tell you like, they might have collaborations with all the authors and it can give you like, referrals, recommendations for
Amy Knupp: Right, right.
Laura Yamin: authors to look at, and I think that's like a great place to be in the know so it's like just a plug for newsletters.
Amy Knupp: Yeah. Also there's a little site. It's a site called buy direct from authors.com, and it's one of my fellow authors organizes it, so it is kind of a directory of authors who have direct stores. So it's not exhaustive. You have to pay a really small fee to be on it, but. That's a way to find authors who sell direct. The other thing about direct sales is paperbacks is a different world. Like every paper, everybody who comes to my store and buys paperbacks, I sign them. And my daughter packs them pretty, she puts them in a she wraps them, she puts twine around them.
You get a bookmark, the book is signed, you get stickers. So it's a different
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: from getting an Amazon envelope with your paperback, with a dent in it, [00:20:00] so, that's super fun for me because I feel like it's a way to connect with readers just even though, it's just by my book is getting in their house, my, my presence from me, the bookmarks and the stickers
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: into their house, and so hopefully that means something to readers too.
So,
Laura Yamin: Yeah. Oh, love this. All right, Amy, we're gonna talk about your latest series for single debt. But we talk about Single Wish, which is coming out in December 5th. That's a Christmas tree. Farmer Enemies still love her. She's coming back to town. She's like, they're, and they're like, they have to work together and whatnot.
First of all, talk to about the series 'cause I know this is book five and then we'll talk about Single Wish.
Amy Knupp: Sure. So the series is Single Dads of Dragonfly Lake. Dragonfly Lake is my small town world. It's a fictional town in like an hour south of Nashville, Tennessee. Obviously surround, like it's on a lake. So, and I actually have my Henry Brothers series is also set there, so book four. And the Henry Brothers was also a single dad.
This was the sixth book. Of single [00:21:00] dads in a row that I've written. I love single dads and yeah. The series is like the, a group of guys who are single dads who get together. It was originally every week on Saturdays they got together 'cause they're single dads and like, first of all, they need time away from being a single dad.
And second of all, it's like a support group. My kid is doing this, and it's the guys, one of 'em has a teenager. One of 'em had like literally a baby on the doorstep that they didn't know they had. So it's this range I try to make, to make every story kind of a different backstory as to how they became a single dad.
Of course, some of 'em lost their spouse, some of 'em. Never knew they had a baby. And it was just an ex-girlfriend. Some of them, like one of them his cousin had a baby and cousin died and left the baby for him, made him the guardian. And so it's like a range of how they became single dads.
But they're all single dads, so they have that in common. as like each guy finds his love [00:22:00] and settles down. They keep meeting even though they're not single dads anymore, but like. Families start taking over. So like it was every week and now they're like lucky to make it once a month 'cause four of four of 'em are married.
You know what I mean? So it's fun to like, make the group progress through the books. So, so, single Wish the hero, Luke, he's the one guy of the single dads who has been like, I do want a wife. And all, 'cause all the other girls are like, oh, I don't, they have their various reasons, but they don't want love,
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Amy Knupp: This guy is like the guy who's like, you guys really don't want a partner.
Laura Yamin: Oh my gosh.
Amy Knupp: You don't want somebody you can go home to every night. And so finally he gets his story and he gets his love and single wish, but it's like the least likely person he would ever think he would hook up with again. it is second chance. So he and Magnolia did have. Kind of a secret relationship in high school because
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: was the town rich girl, like the [00:23:00] spoiled filthy rich girl. She was a mean girl.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: he was a farm kid, so like their little high school. Involvement was secret, and then something happened that she was involved in that really hurt his family.
And so ever since then, they have hated each other and they're fine hating each other. They don't want anything to do with each other. And it's a small town and so they come into contact with each other. And so some of the books, you see them come into contact and kind of like snarl at each other, to kind of hint. The story coming up and but now they have to, so Magnolia the heroine, her father disowned her two years before this book. And so she's been kind of working on redemption since then. But, like. Behind the scenes. so it is a redemption story for Magnolia. She just opened an event planning business and she is bound and determined to make it work.
She wants to prove to the townspeople that she's not the mean girl that she was. There's a lot of backstory on [00:24:00] this one, and you understand why she was a mean girl. You understand, it's like it all comes to light and it's like, oh. It makes sense now. It doesn't excuse it, but it makes sense now 'cause she had a heck of a childhood, a really messed up childhood.
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: and so she needs her first official once she opens her business. Job is to plan one of her really good friend's wedding Christmas Eve wedding.
Laura Yamin: Mm-hmm.
Amy Knupp: The venue is Luke's. Brand new renovated barn. So she has to work with Luke to make number one, her business work, and number two, her friend's wedding, the wedding of her dreams, which is single dad number four, by the way, so
Laura Yamin: Oh my gosh. So it's, so you are encouraged the listeners to read them in order. I think that's probably, it's, it can be standalone, but you get the piece out of it. Just reading the series in order, what better way to binge in this Christmas time? Just like I
Amy Knupp: absolutely.
Laura Yamin: down.
Amy Knupp: book [00:25:00] two is also a Christmas book, so
Laura Yamin: Oh.
Amy Knupp: Single All the Way is a Christmas book. It was Friends to Lover, second Chance, forbidden Love and that's the one where that hero owns the llamas. So. Yeah, but they are all standalone. So like, if you don't wanna go back to book one, you can jump into this and you'll be
Laura Yamin: Yeah.
Amy Knupp: But yeah, the single dads, they are quite, they're a community. It's, I think it's, if you're one who likes to read series and orders, I would order, I would definitely start with book one, which is singled out.
Laura Yamin: Awesome. All right, so Amy, let's talk about some book recommendations. You have some evergreen recommendations to share with us.
Amy Knupp: I do.
Laura Yamin: tell us like, what books do you wanna recommend our listeners to pick up?
Amy Knupp: Okay. So, you said, they're evergreen. Most of 'em aren't recent, but Lucy Score and Claire Kingsley's Bootleg Springs series loved it. It's it's funny, but it's [00:26:00] heart t the romances are wonderful, but it's set in Bootleg Springs, which is like. This redneck town, like they thrive on the redneck ness like moonshine.
Town events revolve around moonshine and fights, but, and there's it, but it fits. It's like the heroin will get in a fight, but it works for this world. You don't think what it's going on, it's just over the top. Funny. And really just sweeny steamy romance stories. So I
Laura Yamin: Yeah, I am excited to read that. I actually have it on my to-do list. I think Claire Ley may have a lady billionaire series too. I think there's like another I think
Amy Knupp: well,
Laura Yamin: yeah,
Amy Knupp: one.
Laura Yamin: of many. There was like a group of authors, she did list to billionaire.
Amy Knupp: It was also wonderful. It was her and Lucy and Katherine Nolan, I think, and I'm
Of the fourth person right now, but they were wonderful also. Yeah. I love when those two collaborate.
Kind That one's fun because it flips the whole billionaire trope.
Laura Yamin: [00:27:00] yeah. So I love these like, I'm like, oh, these are like great backlist titles, and I'm like, they're actually woo.
Amy Knupp: Yes. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I know. And I haven't read their entire back list yet, just because I'm also I'm always like, I try to balance between my favorite authors and then new to me authors.
Yes.
and I just saw like, Lucy Score has a holiday romance that is an old book, but recovered. I just saw it yesterday.
I'm like add it to the list.
Laura Yamin: Yes. It's so, there's so many books. So many,
Amy Knupp: so, so many books. So little time. It's just
Laura Yamin: yeah.
Amy Knupp: but it's so true.
Laura Yamin: So, oh, okay. Amy, tell us. We're gonna find that line.
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Amy Knupp: Amyknupp books.com is my website and my store. I have a Facebook readers group. If it's. If you wanna join that, just, it's Amy Knupps
biblio files, which is, I don't love the name, but we're out there.
Laura Yamin: It's all good.
Amy Knupp: Yeah,
Laura Yamin: Awesome. Thank you, Amy, for a great conversation.
Amy Knupp: absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.
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