Karen Doyle:

Hello ladies and welcome to the genius project advent retreat series.

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My name is Karen Doyle, your host and founder of the genius project.

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And it is my great joy and privilege to be able to host

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this four-part series on advent.

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And to really bless you, I guess, with some input and some beautiful

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reflections from some very beautiful women who are going to lead you deeper

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into your preparation for Christ.

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Christmas, the full weeks of advent are often thought of as symbolizing, the full

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ways in which Jesus comes into the world.

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The first way is his birth as a helpless infant in Bethlehem.

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The second is his arrival into our hearts

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as believers.

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The third is at his death.

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And the fourth is his coming on judgment day.

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Advent is a season of waiting and preparation, but the waiting we do in

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advent is hopeful and it is grounded in joy and hope and anticipation for the

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way in which Jesus is going to be born.

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A new.

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Within our hearts at Christmas time, this is not a passive waiting.

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It is an active waiting for the Lord.

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And in order to do this, we have to make room.

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We have to prepare space in our heart and our soul to receive Christ.

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You remember that beautiful quote from St.

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Joan of arc act, and God will act.

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So there is an onus on us to be preparing some space within our soul.

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Within our life to receive Christ and you during this beautiful season of advent,

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to help you do this, I have invited four very beautiful Catholic women to share

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with you a different angle on how you can personally prepare your heart and

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soul to receive Christ this Christmas.

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I'd love to invite you to subscribe on the link below to the.

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Podcasts and the genius project, YouTube channel, so that you can access some

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of these really beautiful reflections over the coming weeks to kick us off in

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this advent retreat series, Laura Roland will be joining me today to unpack how

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we can prepare our hearts and souls to

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receive Christ.

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So I'd love

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to introduce you to our first keynote speaker for this advent.

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Theories, the beautiful Laura Roland, who is a very good friend

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of mine all the way from the USA.

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She's joining us right now at the end of her day, the start of our day.

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So

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Laura, well, oh, thanks Karen.

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I love being with you guys.

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It's just, it's always the highlight of the season, whatever you're putting on,

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it's just, um, it's just really beautiful.

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So thank you for including me.

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And, um, and I just, I pray that, that this event is just such a

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blessing to, to all of the ladies that are tuning in for this.

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Yeah.

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Well, thank you.

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Thank you for being with us.

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You always, I love the way that you unpack themes with your words.

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You have a beautiful gift with words and just providing this scaffolding

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around an experience or a theme.

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So I'm really looking forward to our conversation today.

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Just looking at this journey towards Christmas with Jesus and

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to encounter him at Christmas time.

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During this season of advent.

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But I just interested.

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What did you get up to today before

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we, well, today was an exciting, I, um, I actually started

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a new full-time job, so I'm still going to be doing the encounter grace

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and the speaking and the writing.

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Um, but I am the content partnerships lead for hallow, which is the number

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one Catholic app in the world.

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And so my job is, um, working with their amazing, uh, content team on bringing.

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The absolute stellar content that they, um, that they have.

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Um, so it's, um, today was day one and it was I'm full on.

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I'm in, I'm in, um, and I work virtually, so, uh, everything is on zoom and,

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um, I have a whole new appreciation for what my husband does in terms of.

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Being on zoom calls all day long.

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I haven't had that in, in, in a while.

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So it was great.

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That was really good energy.

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And they are a fantastic group of very dedicated individuals.

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So, um, we're going to see what God's going to do with this,

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but they are so blessed to have you.

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I can't wait to see where it all goes, but it's a great app.

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Isn't it?

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The Helo app brings everybody

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to check it out.

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Yeah, it's um, it, for me, I've been using the app before.

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For actually, they've been around for almost four years and I think I

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found them right after they started.

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And, um, I know it has brought me just so much solace, um, mostly in the middle

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of the night when I'm struggling or restless or anxious or whatever, this

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isn't a pitch for the app, by the way.

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I'm just saying how I've used it.

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I realize I just now sound like, Hey, um, and it's not that, but

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for me, it's just been a really.

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Beautiful go-to um, and knowing that I'm United in prayer with so many other people

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that are also praying using the app.

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So it's been great and totally has

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tools, a great whether it's hello or Bible in a year or whatever.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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There's so much out there that we can use, um, this, this

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happened to sort of fit my needs.

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Um, but there certainly are some beautiful things out there for sure.

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Yeah.

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And you have just

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become, oh my goodness.

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This is so exciting.

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I grandmother,

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but we're not using the word grandmother.

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I did.

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I did.

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Oh, you can use grandmother.

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It's all good.

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So my baby, my youngest, um, and his beautiful wife who I just adore.

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Um, they had their first, their first baby.

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So our first grandchild on November 28th.

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So we have a little boy, um, we're not giving out anymore, too

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much more information about that, cause he's gonna have his own.

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Life and his own footprint on things, but happy and healthy.

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And I didn't think my heart could explode any more, um, after having,

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having, you know, my own children.

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Um, and then when they got married, you know, that was like another explosion,

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but I will tell you, so yeah, seeing this little guy has been like, you

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know, all the things, but see my son.

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Hold his son and then hand his son to my husband to hold.

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It's just incredible.

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It's the most incredible feeling.

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So, um, yeah, God is so good.

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He's just so fateful.

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And I think those babies come along, it just, we don't even know how

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much we need them when they, when they arrive for lots of reasons.

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And he's just, I think he's the best, but I, you know, Be a little

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biased to fact that just for a minute, everybody's like pleased.

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They're all selling you.

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Like you have permission to send me as many pictures as you want.

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It's okay.

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So it's like, everyone's sort of giving me that permission,

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um, which is just delightful.

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So everyone's sharing in the joy.

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Well, and it's a whole new season for you, isn't it.

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And this is what we're talking about in this advent series.

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At van is a season, it's a seasonal operation.

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And so I love that you get to experience two seasons.

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Yeah.

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We, um, when, when my husband and I, you know, knew that this

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little guy I've called him little man, since we knew he was coming, even before

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we knew, you know, was a little boy.

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But I, I said to my husband, I said, you know, are you ready

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to move to a new neighborhood?

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And he said, but I don't know what you're talking about.

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And I said, well, we're moving from parenthood, the parenthood

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to the grand parenthood.

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I said, so we are really moving into a new place and an actual new place, um, in, in

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terms of, of the life of a family and, you know, all the things that that entails.

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And so, um, that's just sort of been a beautiful.

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Um, reminder to us of what this is, um, you know, and what it can look like.

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So we're so happy,

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so excited for you and us such a day, friend

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of us here in Australia.

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There's so many, you've blessed us by coming over, speaking at our sisterhood

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conference a few years ago now.

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And you've been on our virtual events and been a guest on the

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podcast and we just love you, Laura.

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So really looking forward to this

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today.

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Oh, thank you so much.

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It's, it's always a delight and, um, and you all see, ladies are just,

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they have my heart and you stole my heart when I came over there.

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And, and I, and I meant it when I said back that, I

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mean, it's going on for years?

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I can't believe it's been four years.

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Um, you know, you only, I left a piece of my heart in Australia

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and I am coming back one day.

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Absolutely you better.

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Yeah.

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Well, we are going to kick off today and I'm going to

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throw to you in just a moment, but you're going to be sharing with us.

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We're going to actually be doing four talks over the course of advent.

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And these talks are from different speakers and they're really

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designed to invite the ladies into.

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The season of contemplation of preparation to receive Christ in

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a new and a holy way at Christmas.

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And we know that around the world, like there's been so much

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craziness over the past two years.

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So I think now more than ever, this season of advent feels

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more important, more profound.

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And I think there is an invitation here for us as women to go to

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a whole new place with the Lord in our faith and in our walks.

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So I'm going to head over to you before I do.

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I just.

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Drew your attention to these beautiful holy family picture behind me.

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We're all very Christmasy here in Australia.

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Beautiful.

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That's a, that's an extraordinary picture behind you.

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It's really beautiful.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Jonathan got this one.

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It's just, it's so lovely.

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We have it upstairs.

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And just as a real centerpiece during the season.

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Of advent.

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So what I'd love to do now, Laura is hand over to you for you to, I guess,

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journey is through this first presentation for this first week of advent.

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So I know that you would like to share your screen.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Second to get that up and running and we'll do our, um, it takes a

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minute for the slideshow to come up.

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All right.

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How is that looking on your end?

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Friends works well.

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Looks good.

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Awesome, awesome.

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Awesome.

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Well, ladies, I am just so excited.

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Like I said to be here.

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Um, this is a, uh, this is a retreat that I have written, um, and really the

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Lord put it on my heart, um, probably about a year ago and I sort of the,

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the, this idea of journeying to Jesus.

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Um, you know, we, we talk a lot.

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Um, in our, in our lives and our prayer lives, especially when things aren't going

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well, we're wondering, where is Jesus?

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Where has God and all of this?

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Like what happened?

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I don't feel him anymore.

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I don't, I, you know, maybe we're feeling dry in our prayer life and our spiritual

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life and, and, um, And oftentimes we think, well, God, God has left me.

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God has, God has moved on.

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I must not be worthy.

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There must be something wrong with me.

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And the reality is, is that God's omnipresent, right?

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He's always with us and it's us who have moved away.

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And so the church and all of her infinite wisdom and beauty has given

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us two seasons to remember that we.

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I do indeed have relationship with, with, with God that needs to be nurtured.

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That needs to be, um, it needs to be nourished if you will.

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And that when we feel that, that God's not really close, our,

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our job is to turn back to him.

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Our job is to take those steps to Jesus.

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He's standing there with his hands out.

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Um, Advent, especially is a really interesting time to think

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about this idea of journey.

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So in the, in the talk that I'm going to give now, we're going

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to talk about things from sort of like the traditional standpoint.

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Yes.

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We're going to talk about those that we know from the Bible, from

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the, uh, from the Bible accounts, from the, uh, nativity stories.

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A couple of groups of people who journey to Jesus, right.

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That we're very familiar with.

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But then ladies, what I'd like to do is I'd like to invite you to kind of

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maybe take a peak from the side door and we're going to look at other people in

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the life of Jesus later on in his life who actually journeyed to him as well.

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And I wonder.

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As we think about some of these other people who journeyed to Jesus later

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in his life, if those are people to whom we can turn, those are people

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to whom we can look for encouragement and inspiration, um, when we're

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feeling very far away from Jesus.

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So.

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Let's dive in, shall we?

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So our journey to Jesus, um, for those of you that don't know me, my name is Laura

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Roland and I am a speaker and a writer.

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I'm a podcast host, I'm a frequent podcast guest, Karen on Karen's podcast

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and a as well as some others, I'm also a mentor for something that we have

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here in the states called the given.

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Forum.

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Um, and that's working with young Catholic women, um, and working on

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projects, leadership projects and creative projects that they're bringing

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forth, um, for the church around the United States and actually globally.

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Um, so I'm actually a mentor for that program as well.

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Uh, in 2018, I co-founded, um, a Catholic Christian women's ministry

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here in the United States called encounter grace, where we do

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online and, um, in-person events.

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And then as of today, I am the content partnerships lead with Hallo, which is

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the number one Catholic app in the world.

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And, uh, I had that confirmed today at my onboarding.

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So, um, ladies, it is so nice to meet you and if I haven't met you yet, um,

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I do look forward to, uh, to our paths crossing, even if it's virtually, um, in

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the very near future with all that being said, Let's dive into our topic for today.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Actually, somebody just said, how about, uh, how about what

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you really do for a living?

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And I'm like, okay, I should probably share this slide.

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So my real claim to fame is all encompassed on this slide right here.

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So this is my amazing.

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Matthew.

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We've been married for 32 years in October and please God,

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another 132 and many, many more.

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He is an amazing man.

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Um, and I love him.

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So this is actually us at our, uh, in, um, August of 2020 at

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the rehearsal dinner for our son.

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Um, and so this was just as we were getting ready to celebrate

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32 years, I think we sort of.

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Pretty much the same.

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I don't know.

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Maybe without the cake on her face.

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Anyway, we have three beautiful children.

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This is them when they were little, they were in, um, they

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were, let's see, they were eight and six and four in this picture.

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And, uh, as you can see, our family has grown by two people because now.

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We have added a beautiful daughter-in-law and an amazing son-in-law to the picture.

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And then as we talked about in the very beginning, just a week ago, we

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added our sweet little grandson here.

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So our family is growing and thriving.

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And, uh, these th this is really my real claim to fame, everybody.

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So this is, this is what makes me the happiest right here.

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So that's what you need to know about me.

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Um, let's dive into this idea of advent.

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So when we talk about advent, um, we know that advent is a season, you know,

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lots of us could, could really, you know, maybe give a good explanation of it.

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If you're like me, I didn't really know what advent was until I actually

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started teaching in a Catholic school.

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And then I sort of had to know what advent was to be able to decorate

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the classroom the right way.

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Um, but there is a, there is a definition of what advent really means.

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Um, and, uh, here in the.

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States, this is our definition from the U S CB.

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And I put this up here so that we sort of have a frame of reference

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so that we understand we all have sort of a common definition here.

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Um, and what I would highlight is, is that advent is the beginning

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of the church's liturgical year.

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And I love that idea of the beginning of the year.

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Um, Having that beginning of the year start well before January 1st.

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So I feel like we as Catholics get sort of a jump on the whole, like, I need

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to prepare for things I need to think about changes that I want to make.

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I need to think about, you know, the start of something new.

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What can I do differently this, this year?

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Um, moving forward.

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So we don't really have to wait until January 1st.

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That's the secular world's idea of a start of a new year, but the church

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in her infinite wisdom pushed it back a little bit so that we sort of, we

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sort of get there first and we have our spiritual, uh, plans and our spiritual

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priorities in line and, and ready to roll.

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Um, so that, so that when we do turn the calendar, January one, We've already

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got some things in place shored up.

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So that's the way that I like to think about it.

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So, but advent definitely is a season and it's a time of preparation.

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It directs our hearts and minds to Christ's second coming at the end of time.

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And it is really the celebration of the anniversary of our.

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Birth on Christmas from the earliest days of the church, people have been fascinated

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by this promise that Jesus comes back.

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And so we have this very beautiful time to really, um, to, to ponder what

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that means and what that looks like.

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Not only for the world, but you know, really in our own hearts in our own life.

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What does it mean by this promise of Jesus to come back?

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The scripture readings during advent, tell us not to waste our

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time though, with predictions.

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Like what is it going to be like, is it really going to be, you know,

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like the world locusts and plagues and like all of the things, right.

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Um, you know, we shouldn't be so focused on what those, what those predictions are.

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Advent is not about that speculation.

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It's it's calling us to be alert and ready, but not weighted down and

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distracted by the cares of the world.

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And so like lent the liturgical color for Adventist purple, since both

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our seasons to prepare us for feast.

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Advent also includes an element of penance and this was something that I learned.

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Um, just recently I had never really thought about this idea

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of penance, of course, in lent.

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Like we're all about, well, what are you going to give up in advent?

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It feels like.

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On so much in the hustle and bustle here in the United States, we

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come off of Halloween, followed very shortly, uh, by Thanksgiving.

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And then we turn around and advent begins.

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And so there's not a whole lot of time for us to, to sort of have a run-up to it.

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Um, we sort of hit advent, like, you know, full on and, um, I was just talking with

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some, some friends of mine this weekend.

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And they're like, if I have to find those advent candles, I

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know I put them away last year.

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What did I do with them?

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Right.

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And so, um, you know, we, we have this stress and this pressure we think about,

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oh, I have to do all of these things.

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But I would like us during this talk to really maybe reflect on, on looking

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at advent a little differently and really looking more at that element of

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penance in the sense of preparing and quieting and disciplining our hearts.

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What can we give up in the hustle and the bustle to really slow ourselves

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down so that we really can prepare for the full joy of Christmas, which

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we is the second coming of Christ.

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So.

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With that in mind, all of that context in mind, I really love,

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love, love this passage from Hebrews.

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So it's Hebrews 10, 24, 25.

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And as we are in this season of preparation, one of the things

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that we need to do is we need to think about others as well,

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because how we are affects others.

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And so we're going to come back to this quote at the end of the, at

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the end of the talk, or I'm sorry, this passage at the end of the

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talk, but just think about that.

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And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good

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deeds, not giving up, meeting together as some are in the habit of doing, but

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encouraging one another and all the more as you see the day approaching.

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And so when we look at this idea of how are we spurring one another on

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toward love and good deeds, if our hearts are so chaotic and so weighted

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down with, with what, what the world tells us, we should be doing between

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the December 1st and December 25th.

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And then.

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Here in the states, December 26th is the day we take it all back because

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none of it fit in the first place.

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You know, what do we, what are we really doing?

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How are we spurring one another on towards love and good deeds, right?

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Kurt encouraging one another because the day is approaching.

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So in that mindset, advent is a beautiful time for us to stop and

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pause and take a breath and to really be thinking about that.

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So now that we've sort of looked at what I call the front

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door of this topic of advent.

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Um, I also, those of you that know me, I sort of like to take you

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by the hand and say, Hey sister, you know, this is the front door.

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Let's come in the side door.

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Let's, let's look at this from a little bit of a different angle.

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Let's step into this together.

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You and I, and let's see if we can uncover and unpack other ways that

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we could look at this topic as well.

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So in our, in our church, um, calendar, we have two liturgical seasons.

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Like we said, of preparation, we have advent and we have lent.

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And the thing about advent and lent is that both of the seasons

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require us to take a journey that includes Jesus in advent.

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We include Jesus because we are seeking him.

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We seek him in his birth and in that, seeking him in this birth, we are

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United in hope with the rest of the world, ladies, you and I during when,

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when that, when December 25th hits, even though there's, you know, the big

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time difference, it doesn't matter.

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My heart and your heart are going to be United in the hope that this little.

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Baby brings to the world and he brings it every December 25th, because

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that's when we celebrate Christmas.

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That's when we that's, when we celebrate what he represents, that's

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what we celebrate in, in what we believe in the second coming of

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this, of this, of this person who's going to, who's going to save us.

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Who's going to, to, you know, embrace us, wrap us up and take us to heaven.

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Um, and so in advent, we seek.

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And I know advent, sometimes we think about like, well, there's

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lots of people that seek him.

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Right.

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And then Tivity story, we think about, um, the wise men who

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journeyed to Jesus because they did.

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And we think about the shepherds who journeyed to Jesus because they did.

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And the reasons that they did it is because they had been told and they

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believed they were some curiosity there, but ultimately they had hope.

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They had hope.

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And that hasn't changed in these all these years later, these 2000 plus years later,

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we are still an advent seeking him United and hope with the rest of the world.

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And when we, when we approach advent in this way, it helps us.

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Number one to have a good and holy advent.

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Right.

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But then what do we do?

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We turn that calendar page to January and then comes February.

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And between February and April, depending on the year, it's a very,

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very short time between December 25th.

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And when we hit Ash Wednesday and that's the start of lent and lent

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that season of preparation, that season of journey to Jesus is actually

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where we walk with our little.

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But we don't walk with him to a new birth.

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Yet.

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We walk with him to his death United with him in his suffering.

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And it's only after the suffering that we come to understand that it

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is a new birth in, in a way, right.

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He, he goes to heaven and we believe that it isn't the end,

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but it's the beginning of.

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And then the church in her lovely wisdom again, gives us all of

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that ordinary time to ponder, to reflect, to sort of live our life.

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Knowing, knowing that we have this new season of hope that's coming,

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there'll be followed by some suffering, but ultimately death doesn't win.

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And that's, that's where we have.

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The continued hope.

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So when we look at advent from that perspective, I think it gives us a

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whole new, a whole new way to consider what am I doing with this time?

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See, we're super intentional about.

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I mean, some people I know are probably already thinking, well,

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what am I going to give up for life?

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I may be one of those people, right.

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Or what am I going to do differently for lent or what, you know,

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I'm gonna, I'm going to reach out more to work in my parish.

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I'm going to do, you know, whatever.

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So, so we've, we've gotten very accustomed to this idea of giving

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something up for lent, but we haven't really gotten to the idea yet of

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what advent really can be for us.

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So what I'd like to do is I want to offer you, um, I want to offer you some ideas.

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And by that, I mean, I want to look at this idea of what would advent

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look like if we set a purpose for our advent time, what would that

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really look like in our lives?

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Would advent be different?

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Would we feel differently when we got to the 25th of December?

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What are, what are spiritual life be better?

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Would we be more calm, ready to receive that little baby that hope as opposed to

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saying, oh man, I made it to the 25th.

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Okay.

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What's next?

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Right.

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Like, like it's really this very gentle, um, season that, that the Lord

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has given us to, to really think about and reflect on what's what's actually

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happening in that, in that little manger.

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So.

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When I think of advent and when I'm, you know, talking with lots

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and lots of women, you know, I I've, I've often asked the question, what

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is it that you want from Jesus?

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Like what, why do you seek him in the first place?

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And, you know, hope is definitely one of them enjoy as something

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else, but inevitably, inevitably they say, you know, I think.

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I think I need him in my life.

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I think I need to know who he is in my life.

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I think I need to experience him at a different level than what I have been.

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I think I need some healing.

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Doesn't he heal?

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I think I need some answers to some very difficult questions.

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I think I need stillness and peace.

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I think I need light.

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I think I need some truth.

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These are just some of the other.

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Of the yearnings.

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These are just some of the deeper reasons that we spend this good and holy

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time preparing to receive that hope.

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And so I love the nativity stories there.

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They're beautiful.

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And I can't wait to read it to my.

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Did I mention, I have a grandson, how many more times can I say that in the thing?

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But, you know, we get excited.

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Like we want to share that, right.

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But I am often drawn to the people who encountered Jesus later in his life.

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And these are adults who had, had to have the same faith that the shepherd boy had.

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And, and even as we, you know, we come to find out that the

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wise men, right, who saw, who saw Jesus, who, who journeyed to Jesus.

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Right.

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Um, and so the, there are three, well, there's two people in, in particular.

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And then there's one group of people.

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You know, I think that we can look to these living people who encountered the

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living Christ later in his life for, um, for a way that we can also journey

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to Jesus to get what we're looking for.

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So, and he had given, looking for healing and answers.

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I'm often struck by the hemorrhaging woman and there's many, many, um,

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instances we know in scripture of, you know, the, the lepers and, um, the

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blind men and, you know, lots and lots of people who sought Jesus for healing.

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But there's something about the hemorrhaging woman that I ponder often.

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Um, and that is.

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She had to screw her courage so much to go against what her world

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told her was an impossibility.

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There is no hope for you.

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You are so damaged physically.

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You have no place at our table or anywhere else.

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He's never going to hear you.

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He's never going to see you.

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And yet, what does she do?

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She journeys to Jesus knowing he's going to be there because she believes

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she's been told and she believes right.

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And she journeys to him despite everything that the world tells her otherwise.

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And she butt touches his room.

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She doesn't even get, she doesn't even get close enough to see his face.

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She can't even look at him.

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And yet she journeys to him having hope.

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He is her hope.

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He is her final hope for healing, and he gives her the

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answers that he, that she needs.

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You are worthy.

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You can be healed.

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Your faith has saved.

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You go and be healed.

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And I have to say, when I think about advent, if you are searching

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for healing and answers, we need only look to the hemorrhaging woman.

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She went after hope and that's what advent is.

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December 25th is our answer right there in that little manger.

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See.

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And then I think about what I need this season setting a purpose for my advent

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has been seeking stillness and peace.

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We've had a rather chaotic, I don't think I'm being too, uh, I don't think

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I'm making too much of that either.

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I think we've really my husband and I have had a case.

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Start to our life here in a new state, in a new city.

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Um, the year itself has been chaotic, lots of new starts and finishes

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and, um, really crazy things.

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And then in the midst of it, all, my mother-in-law passed away quite suddenly.

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Um, and so we've had a season of joy and sorrow all at the same time and

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it's been a lot, it's been a lot.

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And so my purpose for advent was I need some stillness and I need some peace.

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And yes, the shepherd boy found that.

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And yes, the, the, um, the Kings found that eventually the wise men,

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I'm sorry, found that eventually they didn't know what they were going after.

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That that's what they were going to get, but they were looking for answers.

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They ended up with some peace, which I love, but I often

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think about the apostles.

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And I think about the apostles because they were raggedy buds.

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And I mean, no disrespect here, but they were a raggedy bunch of people

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that were living in a very chaotic time.

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The government was unstable.

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There was civil unrest, there were all sorts of, of, um, clashes,

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um, among people, within people.

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They even had issues within their.

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Religion with between the Pharisees and the Sadducees and everybody.

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So there was a lot of turmoil, a lot of chaos, and here, these men are, and

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they hear this man and they see this man and they go, I'm going to follow him.

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I'm going to seek him.

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I'm going to seek him out because there is something that he offers me.

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It's a new hope of stillness and peace in a world that has gone mad with chaos and

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craziness and instability and uncertainty.

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And that's what, that's what the Christ child represents

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for us at the end of advent.

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There's your stillness?

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There's that peak.

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I think about Mary and Joseph and Jesus just lying there.

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And that, that moment, I mean, Karen, you shared your, your holy family moment.

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And I just think about the stillness and peace that comes

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when we are together as a family.

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And then for most of us, you know, and family can, is different for different

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ones of us and maybe it's your friends or whatever, but, but nonetheless

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Jesus has there at the center.

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And so it's that stillness and that piece that I think the Apostle's journey to

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Jesus to find maybe they didn't have those words, but they knew he offered something

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better and it was a hope that they weren't getting anywhere else during that time.

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And then finally, I think about this idea of light and truth.

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I've spent a lot of time, um, just sort of unpacking, especially with,

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with Catholic educators recently, this idea of, of salt and light, right.

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Um, and where are we?

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Salt?

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Where are we light in our.

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To our school communities.

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And then I challenged myself to think about it for myself.

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Where am I light?

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Where am I truth?

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Where am I, the seasoning that others need?

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And sometimes I lose track of that and sometimes I lose.

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Um, I don't, I I've lost hope sometimes.

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I think, no, I think that's true.

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I think I can't shine brightly.

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I don't feel it.

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My well is not full.

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I haven't rested.

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And so if I haven't done those things, that I'm not really living the truth.

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And then I ask myself, do I even know what the truth is someday?

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And so I love the story of Nicodemus and it makes me giggle actually thinking

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about this because here's this man.

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And I picture him a big man, um, you know, big stature, you

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know, not only physically, but you know, within his community.

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And he goes under cover of darkness because he had to, but

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he knew where to find the light.

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And who's the light.

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Jesus.

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And there was the hope that comes with that light.

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And he, he and Jesus had the most, it's, it's really a profound exchange.

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It's two very highly intelligent men asking some very, very deep questions and

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not being afraid to say, I still don't understand, but I hear what you're saying.

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And I'm paraphrasing very badly here, but you get my point and to hear them

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say, Come to a conclusion that there is light and truth, and that it is

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good to hope in those things so much.

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So that Nicodemus goes on later to actually stand up and say,

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are you sure this is your guy?

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Are you sure you want to do this?

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Had it not been for him seeking the light and the truth, having the

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courage to find hope in this man that the world said otherwise, But

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Nicodemus knew, and he knew even more after spending that time with him.

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So I think sometimes in our, in our world, and especially,

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you know, when we look at ad.

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And we think about, oh, you know, we had this beautiful shepherd boy

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and somebody came and played a drum, and then we've got, you know, these

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three wise men that come and they're sent and you know, we have this

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beautiful picture and that's great.

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It's hard to relate to that.

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Sometimes I'm not a shepherd.

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I don't work for a key, but I have been ill and I have lived in chaos.

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And I have really wrestled with finding my light and finding what

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the truth is and how to share that and how to be that for others.

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And so.

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I would just really encourage you if you are, if you're thinking

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of advent and thinking it of, ah, it's all my to-do lists, where are

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the candles for the advent reef?

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How many devotionals can I do?

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Some of you are doing 17 devotionals.

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I know because I've seen your Instagram pictures.

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I picked two and I'm struggling to even do one.

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And we're only what two weeks in.

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And so what are.

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What I have to think about what I have to say to myself

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as, okay, Laura, that's great.

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Are any of these really what you wanted your purpose for advent to be?

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And if none of them are bringing me stillness and peace, which is the category

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that I've chosen, then I need to ask the Lord, Lord, can I, can I take this off?

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Can I, can I put this to the side?

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Can I come back to this?

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Is it okay, Lord.

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Cause we're waiting for permission for him to say my beloved daughter.

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I just want you, I want your heart.

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I want your soul.

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I want your everything,

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how you get there.

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Doesn't really matter to me.

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I just want you there.

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And I think if we can remember that.

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And we can go to the Lord and say, okay, Lord, I know you want my everything,

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but I need some healing first.

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I need some answers.

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Where's my light.

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Where's the truth.

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We are purposeful and intentional.

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How beautiful, what our advent be, how much more ready are we come?

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December 25th with that bundle of home.

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Laying in, in that manger, I wonder.

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And it makes me ridiculously happy to think about that and to pray about that.

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So, ladies, as you, as you head into this next week of advent,

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you have a couple more weeks left.

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I want you to, maybe it's not too late.

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And I think that's the other point in all of this.

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We can always start over.

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If we haven't done the 17 journals, well, we need to have a talk

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about that beforehand next year.

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Put away the 17, you know, maybe pick one, like let you know, we need

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to be by we, I mean, me, we need to be more realistic about what we can

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do, but isn't that the sign of hope?

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Oh my gosh.

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I'm so hopeful for this season.

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I want it to be the best ever.

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Um, but we have to prepare just like we set a, just like we set out a roadmap

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for a journey that we're going to take.

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If it's a, if it's a little bit of an unknown.

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Um, you know, we need to say, okay, well, we're going to do this and

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we're going to go this, and we're going to take this road and this is

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what we're going to do along the way.

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So that preparation requires planning and planning indicates a purpose.

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So I would encourage you.

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I'm going to pray for you that you will spend some time thinking about a purpose

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for the rest of your advent season, so that you can better prepare to receive.

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Because when you're able to do that, I want to go back to our Hebrews when we are

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prepared, when our Wells are filled and that's what this advent season will do.

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We may spur one another on towards love and good deeds.

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We will not give up meeting together, but we will encourage one another all the more

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as that day, that second coming approach.

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Uh, awake, awake,

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awake,

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awake.

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So ladies, it's a good time to have a good and holy advent, even as we get ready to

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light that third rose color candle, right.

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And as you set your purpose, As you prepare.

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And as you take and make this journey to Jesus know that penny, my business

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partner, and I will be praying for you as you continue this journey to Jesus.

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Amen.

Karen Doyle:

Amen.

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My man, Laura, thank you so much.

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I just feel like I've just have my whole thing

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filled listening.

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I said, holy spirit is so good that way.

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Thank you so much.

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I just, I love that.

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They love the way that you have.

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Outlined, I guess the whole purpose for advent for us, but also inviting us into

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our own interior, cloister our own hearts to see what it is and what are the areas

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in which the Lord wants to meet us.

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And I think when we actually can bring.

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And we can open our hearts under the gaze of the holy spirit, the Lord acts, but

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we have to take that first active step.

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Right.

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And this is what you're saying is that we are called to be active

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participants in our own life.

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We're called to be co-creators of our own life with the Lord.

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So it's not enough to sort of sit back and just wait for God to act.

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We actually have to be in there.

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We have to get in the arena.

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We have to get in the game.

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We have to get in our own life and be.

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Participants.

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So my question for the ladies today is how are you going to be intentional?

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How are you going to set an intentional purpose for your advent season?

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Well, Laura, thank you so much.

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That was incredibly beautiful, incredibly rich, and I hope it's such

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a blessing for the ladies who are

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listening.

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So thank you so much.

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I, I, it's a, it's a topic that's really near and dear to my heart and, um, and.

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I'm trying to take my own advice about that and, and

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really, um, set that purpose.

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So it, it definitely is game changer.

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So,

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and I once said this quote, it said, you know, start the

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year as you'd like to finish the year because, and I love how you

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highlight are you actually begins.

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Like a preparation for 20, 22 is actually already in progress right now.

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And so when we are intentional, when we, I think this is in all

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areas of life, right, where we are intentional, where we're taking a

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step back, we're being really aware of what's going on in us and around us.

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Then we can engage with life from a different place as opposed to being

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caught up in all of that chaos and being flung around by the emotional,

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spiritual, physical chaos of.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And, and it really is.

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Um, I love that idea of intentionality.

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And I think that, um, you know, if we come at it from a place of, of, we're trying

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to rest our hearts, right, our hearts are restless until they rest with the Lord.

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Right.

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And if, if we can think of advent as a season of rest and

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really allowing the Lord to do some interior work, we're ready.

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We're, we're ready for the hope that he brings.

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Um, otherwise we're not so ready for.

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Absolutely.

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And we miss it.

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Like we talk about the Lord coming, like Christ coming.

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And he comes in for, we, I think in our Catholic faith, we talk about four

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different ways in which Christ comes.

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And I highlighted these in the introduction, but one of the ways, and

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the second way is that how he comes in our heart in the everyday reality of our life.

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So yes, he comes in his birth and yes, you'll come again in the second coming.

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And he's death and resurrection, but there's this second area in which he

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comes in the day in, day out, lived reality of our life and our encounters

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and our interactions with other people.

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And I think sometimes those people or those situations, which really

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great us up the wrong way, have precisely the areas in which the Lord.

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In wanting to come, he's wanting to come.

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He's wanting us to seek him in those areas.

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So it's so beautiful, such a joy and such a gift to have you Laura.

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And I'm wondering whether or not you're close for us with just a blessing and

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a prayer over the weekends, I would be honored.

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Absolutely.

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Alright.

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And the name of the father and of the son of the holy spirit.

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Amen.

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Good and gracious.

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God, thank you for this time is good.

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And holy time that we have set aside to spend with one another and with

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you, Lord, I ask a blessing on all of the ladies who are in attendance,

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um, that their hearts and their minds are forever turned towards you.

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And that you will remind each one of them that they are your beloved.

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And that you see them, you know them and you love them guide their

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hearts as they journey to your son.

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Jesus Christ, our Lord.

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Amen.

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And even the father and of the side of the holy spirit, when I reached draw.

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Thank you so much.

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I can't wait to see the other talks and the other ladies that you have coming on.

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Um, what a blessing.

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This is Karen.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you, Laura.

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I love you so much.

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Well, I hope and pray that that input from Laura

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really nourished your soul.

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She has such a beautiful way with words and inviting us

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to go deeper with the Lord.

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So I'd like to encourage you this week to really carve out that time

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and space in your schedule and your.

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To receive the Lord to really meditate and reflect on some of the things

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that Laura has mentioned today to help you do this, we have prepared a

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beautiful journal prepared for him.

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If you haven't already signed up for the advent retreat

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series, I invite you to do that.

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Now you can sign up by just clicking on the link below this video or

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in the show notes for the podcast.

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This link will formally register you.

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For the advent retreat series, which means you will get access to some

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really beautiful reflections, as well as our free genius project.

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Advent journal.

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This advent journal has some beautiful reflections, as well as some space

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for you to really unpack and go deeper with the content that each of

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our speakers has presented to you.

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I hope and pray that this is an enormous blessing for you

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as you journey through this.

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Of advent until our next session, I invite you to just carve out that time

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and space to really welcome Christ into your heart, to have eyes and ears,

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to see and hear where he is inviting you to go deeper in your relationship

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with him and how he wants to be born a new in your life until next week.

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Ladies have a beautiful week and God bless you.