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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi and welcome to the You World order showcase. Podcast I'm your host, Jill Hart. And with us today is Lanny Smith. Lanny is our host and guide to turning into what really matters, tuning out all the noise and tuning up our unique frequency and the embodied actions, we need to feel our best, and to reflect that in our 3D. Reality. Welcome to the show, Lanny. It's really great to have you here, and I'm going to.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I know I read the introduction, but I'm gonna just let you tell people what you're all about, because you're a little bit unique and what you're sharing. And

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: how are you helping people.

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lanie smith: Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yeah. I think that's been. What do they call that? A gift and a curse to have so many interests and actually be good at many and all of those things. And to try to niche has been

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lanie smith: yeah, it's been a journey, and I eventually got to a place of like

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lanie smith: pardon my French, but fuck the niche because it just made me feel very caged and as a creative spirit, while I had a niche at one time, and it brought me a lot of success. It also started to feel stifling, and I could feel that that's where I was on the cusp of burnout. So I slowly began to branch out and out and out.

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lanie smith: and it was funny, because I even had success in another kind of niche that I thought was less niche.

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lanie smith: And lo and behold, this is kind of, I think the challenge of being an artist and a creative that started to feel stifling and caging. And so

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lanie smith: I would consider myself a serial entrepreneur, and that I love to create things and see them to fruition, and there is. You probably heard that kind of like 7 year itch at about 7 years. I will start to see like, yes, it's time to pivot and take all of this magic that was created, and now

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lanie smith: pour it into something else, and we're never losing those parts, you know, in those successes, but evolving it into something new. And so my current work, if you will, and body of work, is a blend of all the things as a mentor for really 30 plus years, but as a paid professional, credentialed graduate of training, and all of that for the last 15.

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lanie smith: And so I have a background as an art therapist. I'm a spiritual business mentor. I'm also an artist, and I love just infusing all of these things in order to support other helping professionals and entrepreneurs expand their creative edges with premium packaging, and I like to say, a chill meal lifestyle as the cherry on top. It's not the the main dish.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I like that. So you're not really all about the

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the do this. Now do this. Now do this kind of cookie cutter coaching that's out there. You're more of a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I take you by the hand.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Let's see what you're doing.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Let's see what feels good.

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lanie smith: Yeah, it's very, very individuated. I do some group programs, but they're almost always a hybrid, because I want to give people that custom support. We can't really talk about creativity and then

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lanie smith: assign paint by numbers. So when it is that we're talking about that 6 step formula, or 678 steps, whichever you know, the the mentor that has created a framework that worked for them, and then they're selling it, as it's also going to work for you. It's been my experience that that doesn't tend to work very well for artists, creatives.

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lanie smith: kind of black sheeps and neurodivergence that are attracted to my work. They really need something out of the box and custom, so that they're following their intuitive knowing the body based wisdom, which is why, when you introduced me, there is this focus on embodied wealth. So we're working a lot with the body while we're working with the creative edges.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it's how would how would you frame like the

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: when you talk about embodied wealth? What what does that actually mean in practical terms?

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lanie smith: Yeah, I think honestly, it's foreign to so many people, because we are so conditioned to cut off that body wisdom. And you know, work from the mental

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lanie smith: frame. Even, you know, mindset work. People talk a lot about mindset set work when we think about psychology and the psyche. That's all mental. And so it takes like a concerted effort and devotion to

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lanie smith: moving into the body where you can really feel

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lanie smith: these subtle, energetic nuances. And you're moving from those pulses what I call your creative arrows. And that kind of you know, most of the time when people think of erotic, they're thinking of sexuality. But really I'm coming at it from sensuality.

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lanie smith: which sexuality is an aspect of. But when we're moving from our senses, even, for example, people think of the 5 senses as being the main senses. Well, that's because that's what we've been taught. There are actually 50 plus senses.

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lanie smith: And when we take the opportunity to really learn this about ourselves. It's kind of we have to go through this unlearning process of how everything we've been taught and then relearn.

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lanie smith: How do I want to move in the world where my body is the GPS. My heart is the guide, and then my mind gets to support any logistics that are required. But we're not looking at.

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lanie smith: We're not living from the how we're really living, from the what, what is alive, what is pulsing in right now, and you would be so surprised. Most people think that that's going to leave them broke.

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lanie smith: However, if there is an intention to create wealth.

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lanie smith: then that intention is built in that sacred desire is going to be a part of moving from the body. And so my clients

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lanie smith: are doing, you know, really, out of the box things for their business and to market their business or make their business visible. But they're feeding that sensuality, and they're moving from that sensuality so much that when the opportunity in the portal or window opens

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lanie smith: to, you know, create that income. They're surpassing milestones that they've never, that they've never touched before.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And there's so many creative ways to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to get yourself out there. I it's like when once you get beyond the you have to do it in this way.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Mentality, which I I see so much of. It's just like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and you you allow your heart to lead you. I can see where that would just like open the doors to

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: conversations and collaborations and and clients, because.

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lanie smith: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, when people think like, I can't help but think of the Wizard of Oz, because you know, the Lion is so scared and so terrified, but when he really gets into his heart and makes contact with that courage to be visible and vulnerable.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Then.

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lanie smith: His world starts changing right? His 3D. Reality, as you introduced me, starts to shift to match that internal state. And so that's what I see. Time and time again is when and in my own life, too, it's like when I can stay over here, and the safe and the predictable. And this is going to keep creating income for me. And you know that's what happened in my expressive Arts group

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lanie smith: therapy practice in my 1st business was, it was like I could stay here. This is very predictable. We know how to do this, and it actually wasn't true, for my heart. My heart was like, No, actually, I want a gift.

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lanie smith: All of these aspects that I've created contracts in the community private practice group things. I want to gift these to the contractors that I have, and I want to move on to my next creative project.

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lanie smith: That was risky from a mental. You know how we've been trained, but the depth of knowing in my body was like, if I can create that, I can create something that much better. And so I literally went from a quarter of a million dollar business to a 7. Figure business by following that creative expansion, not from a strategy, not from a business plan, not from a 6 step.

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lanie smith: but just like intention is set the rest the doors will open as I move forward.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's really about setting intention and and being open to what?

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Which doors are opening for you and and stepping through them and looking around and making decisions based on how does this feel for me? And is this aligned with what I'm doing? And you know you can always go back out of the door and close it.

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lanie smith: He can't.

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lanie smith: Everything is figureoutable.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. Yeah. But I think sometimes people just get stuck in the, you know, they just don't know what they don't know. And the idea of jumping without a net is like.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: just have to jump because you can't do everything all the time, either. Like if you, if you I I totally get your

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: trapped in a you, almost even though you're working for yourself, you can get trapped in a job.

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lanie smith: Totally. Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think I think that happened to Steve Jobs. You know. He was fired from Apple, a company he created.

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lanie smith: Yeah, I remember it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because it became a job for him, and they didn't want him there. And when he came back he came back as the creative

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Steve, which was what the company was birthed out of, to begin with.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So it just to like reinforce what you're talking about in terms of stepping away from things that become

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: encumbering. They they just.

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lanie smith: Yeah, they lose their life. I think of it through the 5 stages of creativity. And one of the the 4th stage is flexible commitment that allows you to get to flow. But in all things there are seasons and cycles, and so you will feel the energy start to flatten out

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lanie smith: when something is no longer alive, and it's no longer pulsing, and it needs either to evolve and pivot, or it may just be a full and complete ending.

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lanie smith: And

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lanie smith: I think that's also especially true for women who are cyclical beings. And yet we've been operating in more of a masculine structure. The world is designed in a in a very masculine way. You know, productivity focus versus creativity. And of course, these 2 things can come together when we're in sacred union. And we're honoring the feminine in the body.

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lanie smith: allowing the the masculine and the mental to support that. And so I'm super passionate about taking people deeper and deeper into their body.

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lanie smith: And this is not this work is not for everybody, not everybody, is drawn to the mystery, not everybody wants to let their creativity lead. And, to be honest more often than not, it's somebody who has already had success in the kind of mental model and hit that

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lanie smith: that wall that's like this isn't doing it for me anymore, even if they have all the clients and cash in the world, and they're just yawning at the fact of more clients and cash because it's predictable. And they want something that's going to bring more vitality, more arrows and and allow them to feel like they're living at the edge of their own consciousness.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So you're what you do for people is more on a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: on an upscale level. It's not really for the beginner coach out there. It's somebody who's already making.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What would you say? The the threshold is 1020.

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lanie smith: You know it's so interesting that you asked that, and I love that. You ask it because I went through my own

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lanie smith: journey for lack of a better word with this over the last couple of years, because I was helping clients do all of this inner work and simultaneously expand their income, and so they could be doing the depth work and still go from like 20 K. Months to 200 k. Months like that was totally possible.

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lanie smith: And then I got to a place in my own being where I was like. It actually doesn't matter for me. It doesn't matter how much money they are or are not making. It's actually more about their season of business.

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lanie smith: meaning that I can have a client that's not making. They? They may not even be making

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lanie smith: 6 figures anymore. But they could have been at one time. But something about that whole process just felt stifling and not a hundred percent authentic to their creative spirit. And so

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lanie smith: they have a business foundation. They're not. They didn't just open shop and hang a sign. They're not still learning how to be an entrepreneur. So they're an established entrepreneur, but they don't necessarily have to be making a certain amount for us to do this work because you would be amazed how many people I've had come to me, who they might not even be consistently making

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lanie smith: 2,500 a month, because their incomes kind of up and down. And yet, as we tap into this creative arrows as we go deeper into the body, wisdom, their income 5 times, 10 times, 20 times from that wisdom.

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lanie smith: If that makes sense.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It makes total sense. So I think.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: rather than looking at it from an income standpoint. You you need somebody who's got the

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: got the skills

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to create a foundation for promoting whatever they're promoting. And they're just like the basic things that you need. If you're gonna be in business,

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lanie smith: Yeah. And I think that's

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lanie smith: that's a true statement in the sense that they actually know that they are here to serve. And they want to be of service, and they have

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lanie smith: kind of a core message if you will. Even if it hasn't been refined.

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lanie smith: it's not completely starting from scratch.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Right. And and it doesn't mean having a website. We were talking about this before we started recording. It's like

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you can. You can have a business foundationally like a storefront on a lot of different platforms these days. It doesn't have to be a website. It doesn't even have to have.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You don't have to do things the traditional way, because things are changing so fast. And I think that again speaks to what you're talking about about listening to your body, and and and letting the creative part of it flow.

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lanie smith: Absolutely. I love that you mentioned that it doesn't have to be done a traditional way, because I find that it's not all the time. But there are times when I have clients come to me, and they don't actually see that they're trapped in that illusion of what I call the business matrix. Which is

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lanie smith: this is how it's done. This is the only way it's done. This is what you have to do for this to work, and that's actually not true, and it's only it kinda only functions that way in your life if you believe that.

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lanie smith: But if you happen to be open enough to see like

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lanie smith: I actually don't need any of that unless I want that. And then that's the, you know, Cherry on top. And I've had many clients create income without. Oh, we have a puppy even without a website, you know, or a business card, or some of the traditional things. And it's just really tapping into their unique and custom.

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lanie smith: quote unquote strategy, which for me is just sacred direction. To me. Marketing is just creating connections and conversations, and if you know how to do that.

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lanie smith: You could do that with or without all of the the business tools.

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lanie smith: And and it can actually be really fun depending on. If you're online or offline, it'll it might look different. There was something you were saying, though, that I wanted to

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lanie smith: piggyback on. I think it was the

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lanie smith: oh, the traditional piece! Oh, right! The illusion that some people can still have is, you know, being inside that matrix that I talked about, where in that instance, we really do have to kind of challenge it pretty hard.

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lanie smith: because if they're still newer to business, and that's a relative term like Newer, I've had people come to me that they've been in business for 3 years, but they've been spinning their wheels and traditional programs that are teaching. This is how you write content. This is how you do this. This is how you do that, and because they were a creative

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lanie smith: and an artist.

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lanie smith: none of it worked for them, which is disheartening to a degree. But at the same time it's a huge opportunity to see. Wow! I was falling into the Kool-aid, the Kool-aid. That says

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lanie smith: this is how it's done, and my way is going to work for you, and that is an incredible opportunity for discernment when we feel like the offness of something, even though it may sound good. If we were really in our body.

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lanie smith: we can feel the offness of like that's actually not true for me.

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lanie smith: and that's a really important tool. And to your point, with things always changing, having these

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lanie smith: flexible skills like the the flexible commitment of the creativity stages, I referenced. When we have that we literally can create anything at any time, regardless of what collapses, regardless of what falls apart. We trust ourselves to live creatively, which is to create.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's, I think, a mindset that

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking that something is going to be forever okay. I'm in this spot, and things aren't working. So I'm going to be in this spot forever rather than I'm in this spot for the moment. But I have a choice. In the next moment things can be

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: exponentially different. It doesn't have to be like the slow curve up. It can be a straight line, and it can be a hockey stick. I mean, that happens in some in some instances where you're really aligned. And your message is like you're you're

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you're hitting exactly where your clients

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: are needing help. Then then the transactions are going to happen really fast.

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lanie smith: It.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But it's again a matter of being able to feel into

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and using your intuition. I mean

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it. It is one of our senses.

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lanie smith: Yes, absolutely.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And if we pay attention to it, just like, you know, if you touch a hot stove, you notice it's hot. You move your hand away. If you get these feelings like you know, whatever it is for you, for me. I do have gut feelings about things. I mean it actually, physically, I can tell when something is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's something wrong.

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lanie smith: Yeah.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And you know, just

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: having boundaries, saying, No, that's not for me. Or, Oh, yeah, this I can see where this is going, and let that energy like propel you forward and and help you to get visible. That's my word

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: phrase, for the year.

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lanie smith: Your 2025, word.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, get visible.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'll just make it one word.

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lanie smith: Right get visible. I was trying to think I had

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lanie smith: and I can't think of it right now. But but yeah, to your point I I feel like in some ways, and this is why I call

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lanie smith: entrepreneurship as spiritual canvas, because it is such an opportunity for maturation and expansion when we're paying attention.

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lanie smith: I know many clients can identify with the child archetype where, when they 1st start business, they just want to be told what to do how to do it right, because they want to hit the ground running. They want to find a way to make the cash quickly, and that's great. We're not making that stage of business or development wrong. But there will come a point where it feels less satisfying

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lanie smith: and and depending on. You know, if it's your 1st business. Or maybe if you grew up around entrepreneurs, it'll just be different for everybody. And this is why it's just so important to have that individuated and custom support, so that you can really see, like, okay, what are your skills and natural strengths? And where are you already.

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lanie smith: you know, doing well, so to speak, and then we can double down on that and start really shedding the things that are starting to create weight and contribute to boredom and burnout, and all the things.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And do you help people grow? Because there there comes Diff.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There are different stages in growing a business. Everybody starts out by themselves, and then you have to bring on a team at some point, and whether you're hiring out.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and usually that's the 1st step is you find contractors. But then then you do need a team, and you need to do other things as you grow. Do you support people through that process?

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lanie smith: I do, and I also support people in discerning. Do they really need that.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Or on it.

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lanie smith: Yeah, that's a better word. Want it because

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lanie smith: I and I've gone through this journey myself, having had 2 successful businesses. Now in my 3, rd those 2 businesses had a big team. One was contractors of therapists

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lanie smith: and interns, and that kind of thing. The other one was collaborators with virtual assistants, and that kind of thing. And now it's like very streamlined, very simple, because that's my taste in this season of life. Where and and it's funny we I was talking my partner not that long ago about how there were

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lanie smith: entrepreneurs that he's come across that literally just said I don't want to make more than say.

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lanie smith: 500 KA year. The reason why is because I love working alone, and if I am gonna go beyond that, I am going to need to hire, you know, support and team, and I don't want that. And so they make a really intentional conscious choice

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lanie smith: to not scale, even though they could. And I think that that's where it's like really important for people to know themselves as the foundation for the success of their business.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm enjoying your dog.

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lanie smith: What's he doing? I missed him. I was focused on you.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He just looked at the camera and smiled, and then laid back down.

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lanie smith: This is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, what's his name?

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lanie smith: Toffee, toffee.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes, he's a beautiful dog. I'm a dog person. Sorry.

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lanie smith: He's 1 year old, so it's kinda hard not to be drawn to puppy energy.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, for sure.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's actually pretty calm for for a puppy.

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lanie smith: He is.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Time.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So how do, how do people work with you? And how can they get in touch with you? And I know that you have a

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: activator that I'd love for you to share a little bit about. Also.

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lanie smith: Absolutely. Yeah. It's it's a i guess you could call masterclass. That's a

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lanie smith: catch catchphrase. But it's more or less. I say, an activator more than a master class, because I'm not teaching you how to do things. But I'm I'm teaching you the principles with which to look inward so that you can discover your how and your next steps.

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lanie smith: and really everything that we've talked about. And that's usually, I think it's a $250 program. But I've recently just put it on special. So you can find that on my Instagram, and it's also inside my free community called the blank canvas community.

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lanie smith: And I love it. There's so many programs and things that I've done that it's always kind of a trick to decide which one to focus on at any given time. But this one really intuitively nudged me as, okay, bring this back. It's only been like a year and a half or so since I did that, and it was so well received and helped. So many people feel their own power, and tap into their own creative arrows.

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lanie smith: that I felt like, yes, I want to gift that again. And I have actually a couple of other goodies in my store. So if anybody goes to Instagram, they can kind of poke around and find a few different things. But that one is is something that I highly recommend. Now, while it's while it's being gifted.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Awesome. And we will put those links in the show notes. And your.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm gonna say, primarily on Instagram. And I know you're on Facebook a little bit, but mostly I think you're on Instagram internally.

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lanie smith: Yeah, right now it's it's been. It varies over the years. But in this season I'm on Instagram a lot, because I've been playing in my virtual studio, which is called Lainey Smith art. And then my primary account is the the Laney Smith, and it's just fun right now, because I can link those back and forth. And so yeah, I follow the fun. And then I'm also on Facebook, because

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lanie smith: that's just where I started. I've been on Facebook for 2 decades. I think.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

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lanie smith: Yeah, it has been a marvelous conversation, Lainey.

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lanie smith: Thank you. I really enjoyed it.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's the one thing you hope the audience takes away from our conversation today.

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lanie smith: Just that you have so much creative power and freedom, creative freedom to to step out of the traditional kind of business matrix marketing matrix.

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lanie smith: and it actually behooves you to step out of that. If you're interested in your own creative expansion, which more often than not leads to financial expansion, at least in my world. I like to support people in that financial expansion as well. So I just really like to reinforce that.

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lanie smith: There's a million ways to do business and finding your way is one of the most satisfying experiences I can think of in this lifetime.

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Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Couldn't agree more.

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lanie smith: Thanks for joining me.

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lanie smith: Yeah, thank you. Good to see you.