Today, I have the pleasure of introducing Erika Trainor.
Speaker AErika is the director of development with Little Iguana.
Speaker ALittle Iguana's Children's Safety foundation is a 513 nonprofit foundation that educates and empowers children to be safe, happy, and healthy through music based programs and resources to teach lessons covering over 20 safety and wellbeing topics.
Speaker AThrough their programs and resources for home and classroom use, they strive to instill essential life saving lessons, promote positive social interactions, nurture literacy, and foster a culture of safety and well being in communities.
Speaker AWith this mission, they aim to prevent abduction, trafficking, abuse, and serious accidental injuries while empowering children to lead safe and fulfilling lives.
Speaker AThat is an awesome bio.
Speaker AI am so looking forward to this conversation with you.
Speaker AErica.
Speaker AWelcome to.
Speaker AWelcome to bringing Education Home.
ErikaThank you so much for having us.
ErikaAnd I know that intro is like super long, and you're thinking like, how are they going to prevent abduction, trafficking, abuse, serious accidental injuries?
ErikaAnd that's through all of the lessons that we cover.
ErikaWe have over 20 safety and well being topics that we cover everything from online safety and friendship and kindness to looking left, right, and left again before you cross the street, buckling up your seatbelt, wearing your bike helmet.
ErikaWho's a stranger?
ErikaWhat's that weird feeling I get when I know something's not right?
ErikaThat I just need to share it with an adult?
ErikaYou know, everything in between.
ErikaAnd I know that we'll, we'll talk more about that.
Speaker COh, that is so amazing.
Speaker CBecause, you know, you're the program that when I was in the classroom, I wish I had more access to, because every summer and at the end of second grade, we would always go into summer safety, and we would talk about a lot of those things.
Speaker CWhat is your water safety?
Speaker CWhat is your bicycle safety?
Speaker CWhat is your stranger safety?
Speaker CAll of those things.
Speaker CAnd this sounds like a lot more fun than the way I did it, but although I think I did.
Speaker CDid a pretty good job.
ErikaYeah, absolutely.
ErikaSo everything like we've been talking about is taught through music, which is such an effective way to teach children.
ErikaWe use play learning, interactive role playing demonstration, and just fun so kids don't really realize that they're learning, which is something, you know, we had talked about before we started this podcast.
ErikaWe want kids to know how to learn and enjoy learning and actually have fun doing it so that they're gonna remember it, because if they're just reading something for a test later, they're not going to remember it and they're not going to really absorb it.
ErikaSo that's why we do it through music, because if you think about like, you know, what song were you listening to when you were in high school?
ErikaIf that song comes on the radio, you can sing every word, but you have no idea what you were learning in high school.
ErikaLike, you don't remember that stuff.
Speaker AYeah, it's kind of funny.
Speaker AYou listen to those songs now and you go back, it's like, wow, I can't believe I didn't understand these lyrics.
Speaker AAnd the meaning behind it is like, oh, that was just a fun song that I knew all the words to.
Speaker AAnd now as an adult, you sing those songs.
Speaker AIt's like, whoa.
Speaker ABut anyway, let's go back to the beginning.
Speaker AHow did you get started with little iguana?
Speaker AWhat was the impetus?
Speaker AHow did you find it?
Speaker AWhere did you start with this?
Speaker AWhy did you get involved with little iguana?
ErikaWell, the little Iguana Children's Safety foundation is a family venture and a family journey.
ErikaSo my dad is the executive director and he founded the organization 30 years ago as a way to teach me, my brother and my sister ways to keep us safe.
ErikaSo he started with, you know, stranger danger and just looking both ways before you cross the street, wearing your bike helmet, simple things like that.
ErikaAnd then with, you know, the help of educators and professionals in the, in the field, he developed over 20 safety and well being lessons.
ErikaAnd when I was getting ready to graduate from college, I told him I'd give him a year of my life to, you know, modernize the business and get everything up to speed and, you know, put things on YouTube and Spotify and, you know, all those places for him.
ErikaAnd that was twelve years ago, so that's awesome.
Speaker CSo not only do we have a great business and safety product, we have a family business.
Speaker CSo those family values, the family traditions, everything is coming through this product as well.
Speaker CThat awesome.
Speaker CAnd I love how you said, oh, it's just going to give him one year and then it's like twelve years later.
ErikaYeah, yeah, he can't get rid of me and he doesn't want to, so.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CMatter of fact, when we were having our pre chat, it was funny because I was talking with your dad, he's like, yeah, you know, I just talk to people.
Speaker CBut then Erica comes in and she just makes it all better, which is absolutely amazing.
ErikaYeah, he, he has such great passion for, I mean, this organization, obviously, it's been something that he's worked on for 30 years and he has, you know, such passion for keeping kids safe and empowering them to be safe.
ErikaAnd healthy and kind, but when it comes to the technical stuff, yeah.
ErikaHe's like, just.
ErikaJust wait for Erica to do that because I have no idea how to make a coupon code or send this or do this or link this.
ErikaSo it's a good team.
Speaker CThat brings me to the question is, when he started it, was there a story behind that?
Speaker CWas there a dangerous situation that you and your siblings were in, or was what was the start of that?
Speaker CWhere does this come from?
ErikaAbsolutely.
ErikaSo in our area in Cambridge, Massachusetts, there was a young boy named Jeffrey Curley who was abducted, and he was taken over state lines, and, you know, some terrible things happened to him.
ErikaAnd it was all over the news.
ErikaAnd, you know, even back then, it was in newspapers, on the news, you know, everywhere you turn, they were talking about this story.
ErikaAnd my dad actually owned a marketing and screen printing company at the time.
ErikaAnd my brother and I used to go and hang out with him after school, you know, check out the business.
ErikaAnd he had these big plastic totes that he would keep the t shirts in when the order was done or when it was getting prepped.
ErikaAnd a big part of that story, the Jeffrey Curley story, was that the men had put him in a crate and taken him.
ErikaSo my brother actually had heard the story, and we didn't, I don't think we really understood it.
ErikaWe were very young.
ErikaBut my brother had said to my dad, oh, that's so weird that that boy, you know, was put in that crate.
ErikaLike, I'm so much bigger than him and I can't, I mean, I'm so much smaller than him, and I could never fit.
ErikaLike, he went in the crate.
ErikaHe's like, I can't fit in this crate.
ErikaLike, how did they do that?
ErikaHow.
ErikaAnd, like, how are you going to keep us safe?
ErikaLike, would that ever happen to me?
ErikaYou know, like, how am I going to, like, avoid that?
ErikaSo it was really eye opening for my dad.
ErikaAnd he had been doing Lil iguana a little bit.
ErikaHe had created the program, and actually the task force to prevent child abuse in New Hampshire was using the program in schools and doing it at different events, and he decided that he needed to do this full time after that.
ErikaYou know, that was his kind of, like, eye opening thing.
ErikaLike, we really need this program.
ErikaA lot of kids need this program.
ErikaAnd this is my.
ErikaThis is my commitment now.
ErikaThis is my job forever.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ASo two things out of that.
Speaker AOne, when you were describing your dad, I remember Christina telling me about talking with her dad, and, like, he and I would get along really well, she said, and that his daughter would be coming on to do the podcast.
Speaker ASo I remember that.
Speaker ABut she does all of that just like you do most of the time.
Speaker AI just come on and do the talking.
Speaker AShe does all the background stuff.
Speaker ASo that is actually kind of funny to me.
Speaker AAnd the second is little iguana.
Speaker AWhere does Iguana come into this?
Speaker AWhere is the name 30 years ago?
ErikaSo it's so weird because 30 years ago, that was like the Jurassic park era, and that was the number one pet being sold, and that wasn't a mascot for any other organization.
ErikaYou know, we didn't have like a dog or a bear, you know, something like that.
ErikaSo we had an iguana because it was unique and that's how low iguana came about.
Speaker CI love it.
Speaker ASo there's not like a way that iguanas are safer or something?
Speaker AIt just.
ErikaNot that I know of, but that is our mascot.
Speaker AAwesome.
Speaker CI love that so much.
Speaker CAwesome.
Speaker CWell, one thing, as we love talking with our, you know, our guests, and we love dropping tips for our parents, so as we continue talking, thinking about that.
Speaker CBut what's one tip that they can do right now?
Speaker CParents that would help keep their children safe?
Speaker CWe hear it all the time, but let's get a specific tip going in their brain right now.
ErikaSo first, I just want to start generally and just start the conversation.
ErikaSo whether you know everything about the topic that you're going to be talking about or you're kind of like, winging it, it's good to just open that line of communication and start talking to your children about safety in general or a specific topic.
ErikaAnd the one that we talk about the most is who's a stranger.
ErikaSo how we teach a stranger, you know, in the world, we hear a stranger could be a good person, it could be a bad person, it could be a scary person.
ErikaIt could be a person that wears, like, a trench coat, you know, like, who is a stranger?
ErikaI don't know.
ErikaSo we teach a stranger is anyone that you don't have permission to go with right then and there.
ErikaSo you just need to get permission, and then that person's not considered a stranger anymore.
ErikaSo a stranger could be someone you know, it could be someone that you don't know.
ErikaYou just need to get permission first.
ErikaIt could be a good person.
ErikaIt could be a bad person.
ErikaSo if you're in the grocery store and someone comes up to you and starts talking to you, you just need to turn to the adult in charge that's right there.
ErikaAnd you need to get permission from them.
ErikaAnd what is permission?
ErikaWe teach it super simple for kids.
ErikaThree easy steps.
ErikaEyeballs.
ErikaAsk.
ErikaYes.
ErikaSo you need to look the adult in charge right in the eyeballs.
ErikaAnd that's a funny word.
ErikaSo kids are going to remember it.
ErikaYou're going to ask if you can do something or if you can go somewhere with someone.
ErikaAnd then you need to get a yes.
ErikaAnd if you have those three steps, you have permission, and that person's not considered a stranger anymore.
ErikaBut remember, you need to get permission each time you want to go somewhere or you want to do something.
ErikaBecause Mister Jones across the street, you know, you say hi to him every day when you come home from school, and then one day he says, hey, do you want to come in my house and have a snack and watch a movie?
ErikaWell, we just need to get permission first.
Speaker CLove it.
Speaker CAbsolutely love it.
Speaker CI love how you made it into those three simple steps because the kids, like you said, the kids will pay attention.
Speaker CEyeball.
Speaker CYeah, they like eyeballs.
ErikaEyeballs.
ErikaEyeballs a lot.
Speaker CAnd it's really amazing because that's, you know, one of the key things that we talk about with communication as well is, like, when you're communicating, when you really want to get a point across, you need to be looking at the person.
Speaker CYou need to be really paying attention, being focused.
Speaker CSo those eyeballs are amazing.
Speaker CAnd then that.
Speaker CYes, please make sure you hear that.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AAnd another, another thing that I really liked about that is a lot of the bad things that happen are from people that, you know, sometimes it's family.
ErikaYes.
ErikaBecause almost 90% of abductions are going to be taking place from someone the child knows.
ErikaSo we can't teach it as it's someone that you don't know because it could be someone that you do know.
ErikaSo instead of saying it like that, we just need to get permission from the adult in charge first.
ErikaSo that's your mom who's watching you.
ErikaYou're at grandma's house, you're at your babysitter.
ErikaYou know, whoever is in charge of you at that time, you just need to get permission first so that they know where you're going and who you're going with.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CAnd that is so very, very important.
Speaker CAnd one of the things that you know, that also brings up is that, you know, like, well, like you said, you might know the person across the street.
Speaker CYou say hi to them all the time.
Speaker CBut until your parents really know them.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd parents want to know where you are just to keep you safe.
ErikaAbsolutely.
ErikaAnd even if your parents are best friends with that person, you just need to get permission first so that they know where you're going to be and who you're going to be with.
ErikaAnd it's super simple.
ErikaEyeballs ask.
ErikaYes.
Speaker AYeah, that.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AThat's an interesting thing that I also did with my teenage boys is kind of.
Speaker AKind of something similar.
Speaker AIt's like, okay, I understand you're going to be there.
Speaker AYou have my permission.
Speaker AIf you're.
Speaker AAnd you're autonomous, you know, I know you're not asking me permission, but if you're going to move, if.
Speaker ASo you say you're going over to your friend Eric's house.
Speaker AIf you're going to go from Eric's house over to your friend Troy's house, it's like, I don't have a problem with you moving.
Speaker AYou get to make that decision, but you need to tell me that you're moving.
Speaker AAnd I made it kind of funny, too, because if something happens, I need to know where to go look for your body.
Speaker ARight.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaUnfortunately, that is sometimes the scary reality that we're not trying to teach that scary side to kids.
ErikaSo we teach it in a fun and light way, but we need to know.
Speaker ABut also that gravity in there, too.
Speaker CThe teenagers with the older.
Speaker ASo my son was really good at that.
Speaker AHey, I'm over here.
Speaker AWe're going to be walking this direction, and we're going to be hanging out over here, and it's like, awesome.
Speaker AHave fun.
Speaker AAnd so I, you know, it wasn't that I was keeping tabs on him, but like I said, it's, like, for safety.
Speaker AI want to know where to come look for you if something goes wrong.
ErikaAbsolutely.
Speaker CSo, actually, I saw a Facebook post the other day, and I was just completely flabbergasted that I was reading what I was reading, and it was from, like, a sheriff's department somewhere.
Speaker CAnd the sheriff said, you know, your high schooler just got in a car accident.
Speaker CTheir phone is broken, and we can't find out who to call because your teenager doesn't know their name, their phone number, their address in their memory.
Speaker CSo that's one of the things I even taught as second graders, like, you know, what's your name and address and what's mom and dad's name?
Speaker CSo how do you go about that?
Speaker CWhere do you bring that?
Speaker CAnd when should kill children be learning their name?
Speaker CTheir full name, their full address, their full phone number, their parents names?
ErikaYeah, I think as early as they can.
ErikaWe do have, like, worksheets and resources that actually talk about, you know, mom has a name, dad has a name.
ErikaWhat is that name?
ErikaHow would you get in touch with them?
ErikaWe have a little house, like, where do I live?
ErikaWhat is a phone number that I can use to reach them?
ErikaAnd then we have a sheet, like, all about me, what's my birthday, what's my favorite color, you know, things like that.
ErikaSo I think as, as children can learn, it's really important.
ErikaWe have programs and resources that are for as young as age two all the way up to age ten.
ErikaSo we do, obviously, teach different ways for age two than we do for age ten.
ErikaBut we do have programs and resources available for such a young age because it's like I said, it's great to just get that conversation started and then you can slowly integrate the details, you know, as they start learning.
Speaker AYeah, it's amazing how well that actually works because I'm old and in the seventies, when I was going to school, I lived in California, and my parents moved to Oregon when I was eight years old.
Speaker AI still remember my address.
Speaker AI don't remember my last three addresses since I've been an adult, because we've been living here for the last 20 plus years.
Speaker AYeah, but I remember my address when I was in kindergarten.
Speaker AFirst grade was 4544 West 133rd Street, Hawthorne, California.
Speaker AThat will never leave my memory forever and ever because.
Speaker ABecause of that being drilled into me in school and by my parents.
Speaker ASo it's like, I don't know how they did that, whether it was a game or whatnot.
Speaker ABut, yeah, I still, I still remember that address, and I don't remember so many of my other addresses.
ErikaYeah, but it's also because you learned it so young, too, you know, so that is, like, embedded and ingrained forever because you've had it since a young age.
Speaker AAnd so, yeah, that's a great thing to do for your children, and hopefully you don't move too much.
Speaker CRight, exactly.
Speaker CSo you said that one of the other things that you do is not only talking teach about safety, but, like, kindness and things.
Speaker CCan you, can you tell me about those links and how you kind of started branching into those areas as well?
ErikaSure.
ErikaSo, like I said, the foundation's 30 years old.
ErikaSo back then, like, Internet safety didn't exist.
ErikaLike, that wasn't necessary.
ErikaAnd as we're, like, growing and evolving, kindness is just such a thing that.
ErikaBut it's needed, you know, everywhere that we see, I think it's something that originally may have been taught at home and maybe has been left to be taught in the classroom.
ErikaAnd I think there's, you know, maybe a little bit of a gap there.
ErikaSo we're just trying to close the gap and just teach, you know, treat everyone the way you want to be treated.
ErikaIt's easy to be kind.
ErikaWe have kindness wristbands that we give out in schools and at our community events that just say, it's easy to be kind.
ErikaIt's just like a constant reminder that, you know, share a smile.
ErikaIt goes a long way.
ErikaWe have tons of work sheets and workbooks on kindness.
ErikaWe do actually have a free kindness workbook that anyone who's listening can get as well.
ErikaAnd it's just a great way to start that conversation about what kindness is.
ErikaWhat are ways that you can show kindness?
ErikaWhy should you be showing kindness, you know, understanding the empathy part of it?
ErikaBecause that's a huge thing for kids.
ErikaLike, why should I even do these things?
ErikaYou know, every, I always get those questions whenever we do programs with kids.
ErikaWhy?
ErikaWhy?
ErikaWhy?
ErikaWhy?
ErikaSo why are we being kind to people?
ErikaI think that's really important just to start those conversations.
ErikaAnd like you said, kindness, we also, you know, do well being.
ErikaAnd, like, being a good friend is super important, but also, like, washing your hands, you know, and having personal hygiene.
ErikaThat's super important.
ErikaAnd we saw that, you know, how that impacted so many of our lives four or five years ago now, but you need to wash your hands for 20 seconds or more, things like that, you know, like what we consider maybe as common sense, but you still need to teach common sense to kids.
ErikaLike, they don't know those things.
ErikaSo that's why we find it really important.
Speaker CYeah, and I love, because, you know, you have to be the role model.
Speaker CHow do kids learn?
Speaker CThey learn by watching and listening and by sharing and explaining.
Speaker CAnd when I talk with some of my parents, it's like, they're like, oh, well, I feel like I'm talking to my child too much.
Speaker CIt's like, well, what do you mean?
Speaker CAnd they're like, well, I'm explaining everything.
Speaker CIt's like, yeah, but when they're little, they need that because they can't read your mind, but they can hear what you're saying.
Speaker COh, I'm stepping over this so I don't trip over it.
Speaker CThen they, yeah, but it's over.
ErikaWhy?
ErikaYou know, why do I need to step over that?
ErikaOh, so I don't trip.
ErikaOh, that makes sense.
ErikaSo it's not, then it's not like, oh, I'm not going to do that.
ErikaYou know, it's not the defiance thing either, because they're understanding exactly why they need to do that.
Speaker CAnd then it builds the vocabulary and it builds the understanding between the two people about what all of this means and everything that's going on.
Speaker CSo you happen to mention Internet safety.
Speaker CLet's go there.
Speaker CDo you have a specific tip or something that you want parents to know about Internet safety?
ErikaSure.
ErikaSo we think of the Internet as a big city, and we wouldn't let our children wander around a big city without some kind of supervision.
ErikaSo it's really important to talk to your kids about one getting permission before they go online.
ErikaSo that's on their tablet or their phone or the computer, or if they're playing video games or anything like that, they need to get permission first.
ErikaAnd at that time, you're going to be talking about the rules that they need to follow when they're online, who they can talk to, what websites they can visit, what apps they can use.
ErikaSo it's all about getting permission first.
ErikaNext, we need to talk about our harm alarm.
ErikaAnd that is that weird feeling that you get inside when you know something's just not right.
ErikaIt's like your inner alarm clock that's ringing when you're like, hmm, that's kind of weird.
ErikaI don't really like that, or I need to share that weird feeling.
ErikaSo we talk about our harm alarm.
ErikaSo anytime you see something or read something or are talking to someone and your harm alarm goes off, you need to stop what you're doing right away, and you need to go get an adult, and you need to share that what just happened and share that feeling with an adulthood.
ErikaWe're never giving out personal information.
ErikaWhat my name is, what my age is, where I go to school, where I live, we're never talking to people that we don't know or we don't have permission to talk to.
ErikaWe're never agreeing to meet someone.
ErikaAs nice as they may seem online, people may be different from how they act online in person.
ErikaSo we're never agreeing to meet anyone.
ErikaSo I think the major things are just getting permission, talking about your harm alarm, never giving out personal information, and never agreeing to meet someone.
Speaker CExcellent.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CThat covers so many of the things that pops into my brain.
Speaker CAnd, you know, it's really one of those things.
Speaker CIf parents really think about when you set a boundary, when you set an expectation of you need to ask permission, then guess what?
Speaker CBeautiful communication can happen.
Speaker CYou understand where your child is and what's happening?
Speaker CThey understand that you care about them.
Speaker CThere is so much to that.
Speaker CInstead of just handing over a device and saying, oh, yeah, just do whatever you want.
ErikaDo whatever you want.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaAnd another great point is talking about, like, shared spaces.
ErikaSo, like, using the Internet or using a device in a shared space so that you can supervise, you know, as necessary and check in as necessary, as opposed to, you know, in a locked room somewhere, like, oh, I have no idea what you're doing.
ErikaEven though we did talk about, like, getting permission and we set those expectations and those rules and those boundaries, it's always good to have, you know, a shared space where you can kind of check in every once in a while.
Speaker ASo in that you also talk about background awareness.
Speaker ASo, like, if you have a picture of your school on the wall behind you, don't be sending pictures of that.
Speaker AIf you have you, like, your school or your name on your jacket, do you talk about being aware of your space?
Speaker AAnd what does that, is that any of that covered?
Speaker ABecause sometimes people can.
ErikaAbsolutely.
ErikaBut, like, there's these videos.
Speaker AYeah.
ErikaThat's like, think, and I can't think of all the things that it stands for right now, but we have it.
ErikaAnd it's like, you know, is this a nice thing that you're going to be saying to someone?
ErikaIs this.
ErikaI can't think of anything.
ErikaBut, you know, there's like, a couple things that we talk about, and one of them is like, am I giving out any of my, you know, personal information with how I'm talking or things that I'm saying and, you know, stuff like that or things that are being seen.
ErikaSo that is something else that we talk about because, you know, we, we just talked about the rules.
ErikaBut also, you need to talk about how you're going to be acting when you're online.
ErikaSo you're not going to be, you know, interacting with someone and, you know, putting them down or using, you know, inappropriate language or words?
ErikaYou know, we're talking about those things as well.
ErikaHow you're going to be acting and showing kindness online because you want to be treating others.
ErikaHow you want to be treated.
Speaker AYeah, because again, coming back to that, there's this one guy that I've started watching shorts on, on YouTube, and he'll, it's a, it's this weird Google Earth kind of a game, and he'll have, like, a picture of something.
Speaker AIt's like, oh, that sign, this kind of a corner, this kind of a light, and he will pinpoint exactly where in that world that is in like 6 seconds building.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd he can, like, zoom in to, like, within feet of where that picture was taken.
ErikaAnd.
Speaker AAnd he is just amazing at that.
Speaker ASo, again, your background, what's going on around.
ErikaThat's everything is everything.
Speaker ABecause people can say, oh, hey, that kind of tree that only grows in this part of the world and zoom in and figure out.
Speaker AAnd it's like, oh, hey, that tree, that house, the way that's set up.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYou live there.
Speaker AIt's crazy the way what people can do now.
ErikaAbsolutely.
ErikaAnd I think that goes back to a lot of it about getting permission, too.
ErikaSo we shouldn't be posting things or we shouldn't be talking to people that we don't know.
ErikaSo that would also, you know, eliminate a lot of that weird, weird behavior that could possibly pop up from other people.
ErikaWe need to make sure that we're not sharing things about ourselves, and we need to make sure that we're not posting things publicly.
ErikaWe're only posting things for people that we know.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI love how you were using the rhyming words, the harm alarm, that because it keeps it in the brain, but then it also really helps the kids understand the harm alarm.
Speaker CAnd another way that you could talk about, of course, that is your gut or your instinct.
ErikaYep.
ErikaIt's your inner.
ErikaIt's that inner voice that's saying something's just not right.
ErikaAnd when you hear that voice, you need to tell someone, it's your gut feeling.
ErikaIt's that.
ErikaThat weird feeling that you're getting inside in your chest.
ErikaOr maybe you're just feeling embarrassed or scared or sad or nervous.
ErikaAll of those feelings are okay.
ErikaThey just need to be shared with an adulthood when you're feeling them.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAs Gen Xers, that was a foreign concept to us because, you know, we're a feral generation, and we didn't, you know, we didn't get to talk to our parents about stuff like that.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaNow we're encouraging to have those conversations.
ErikaWhether you're on the car ride home from the grocery store.
ErikaHow are you feeling today?
ErikaWhy are you feeling like that?
ErikaYou know, finding those routines and those patterns of open communication so that we talk about things when they're happening and things that are making us feel weird to at that time and not 30 years from now in therapy, you know, we're talking about it and addressing it, hopefully.
Speaker AWe didn't know how to.
Speaker AOur parents didn't talk to us about this, and so we didn't necessarily talk to our children's about children about it the same way children, our children about.
Speaker ASo where do they learn it?
Speaker AAnd that's why hiring a coach, working with someone like Erica at little iguana can help so much, because we didn't have the vocabulary.
Speaker AWe didn't know how to bring these conversations up or talk about the stuff.
Speaker AAnd it was a whole different world when our children were children, and so now their children are a completely whole different world than where we were at.
Speaker AAnd so how do they learn to deal with the modern stuff?
Speaker AAnd so working with people who are current and understand this.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaAnd we make it super easy for parents.
ErikaWe give you discussion prompts and scripts and, you know, reinforcing worksheets and how to start those conversations.
ErikaAnd we have, you know, resources like our feelings calendar, where every day you talk to your child about how they're feeling or they can do it on their own, they're going to indicate on the day, you know, they're feeling sad today, they're feeling happy or nervous or excited.
ErikaAnd we have 20 emotions that you can talk about, and you actually see a picture of what that emotion is going to look like and how you're going to feel.
ErikaAnd it's a great conversation starter for parents as well, because if you see every Tuesday, your child is nervous.
ErikaOkay, well, what are you doing on Tuesdays?
ErikaWhy do you feel nervous on Tuesdays?
ErikaAre you nervous because we're going to swim lessons or is there something else that's going on that day that's making you feel that way?
ErikaAnd then how can we make it so that you don't feel nervous every Tuesday?
ErikaYou know, so it's a good conversation starter as well.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI'm 54, and I still have problems with a lot of that, and I still don't do that.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo the earlier you can learn to do that, the more you can grow with it in your life instead of trying to teach an old dog new tricks instead of trying to bring this in.
ErikaYeah.
Speaker AWhile they're young and grow with it, and it's so much more healthier.
Speaker ASo what are some other well being topics that you have?
ErikaLet me think well being because we.
Speaker AHad washing hands, that was kind of well being.
Speaker AThat's like physical safety.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaLet me just go to our 20 lessons that I work with every single day because I'm drawing a blank on.
Speaker AWhat puts you on the spot.
Speaker AWell, it's kind of funny because you brought up washing the hands.
Speaker AI grew up out in the country, and we would leave the house in the morning and come back in the afternoon, and we would eat dirt and get stuff in our mouth all day.
Speaker AAnd so I don't necessarily wash my hands all the time because I picked up all of that stuff as a kid.
Speaker ABut city kids who've never been out playing in the dirt, who've never been out getting grungy and dirty, they don't have the same kind of immune system built up as people that have grown up in the country.
Speaker ASo washing your hands is very important because you're much more likely to get sick.
ErikaAnd so there's also, you know, sorry.
Speaker AThat was about it.
Speaker AI was just going to expand while you were.
Speaker AWhile you were going there.
Speaker ASo there's also, like, where you grew up, how the safety kind of things change.
ErikaAbsolutely.
ErikaAnd especially the environment that you're in all day.
ErikaSo some kids that we're working with are in a traditional education classroom all day.
ErikaSo they're getting germs from door handles and stairwells and desks and other kids that are bringing it from, you know, their homes in.
ErikaSo the hand washing part is very important, like covering up coughs and sneezes, washing before you're eating, not sharing food while you're eating.
ErikaYou know, just general health in that sense is really important for kids that are going to be in a more traditional school environment where they're not necessarily only seeing their, their close family or friends, you know, every day in a homeschool setting.
ErikaBut going back to your wellbeing question, I think we just kind of talked a little bit about it is feelings and just emotional regulation.
ErikaSo we have lessons like cool and calm on how you're going to be able to use calming techniques and feeling techniques in order to regulate your emotions throughout the day so that you're not going from zero to ten every time you're recognizing whether something's a small problem or problem maybe I need help with or something I can solve on my own.
ErikaSo we do have rote resources for that as well.
ErikaUm, different, like, techniques we didn't have.
ErikaI didn't even have this when I was growing up.
ErikaYou know, like tracing your finger on a calming wheel or a different shape where you're going to breathe in when you go up and then breathe out for 3 seconds when you, you trace your finger down.
ErikaOr, um, we have a worksheet where Lil Iguana is holding a cupcake and we say, you know, blow out the candle for him.
ErikaSo something like that, it's just the calming and that's more of, like, social emotional learning.
ErikaAnd we have an sel specialist at Lil Iguana.
ErikaThat is amazing and has language and that I can never express to you.
ErikaYou know, she's trained in this, and she's trained to work with kids on emotional regulation, and she is absolutely amazing.
ErikaWhen I see her videos, we have a new video that's released every week, and when her videos come out, I'm like, this is so good.
ErikaShe's like, I know.
ErikaI do this every day.
ErikaI'm like, I know, but it's just so good.
ErikaLike, I would never have thought to describe it that way for a child.
ErikaSo, obviously, we all have our specialties, but that is hers.
ErikaShe does, you know, cool and calm social, emotional learning, making sure you have empathy and kindness for everyone, and also, like, motivation, affirmations, having a positive outlook, those kind of things.
ErikaYeah.
Speaker AAnd I like that you brought in breathing, but.
Speaker ABut through a different way.
Speaker AWe had.
Speaker AWe had bells in her classroom.
Speaker AI.
Speaker AAgain, I'm kind of the weird guy.
Speaker ASo her classroom had.
Speaker AShe had a rough year, and so I brought in this bell that she put on her computer and said it at random times.
Speaker AAnd there was three different sounds.
Speaker AAnd on one bell, they just would stop, put their heads down, and take a breath.
Speaker AAnd in one bell, they would all stand up and then take a long breath in and breathe out.
ErikaThat's awesome.
Speaker AAnd just those minute, either the five, the 15, or the 32nd breath work just made a tremendous difference in her class and could change the atmosphere.
Speaker ASo breathing is such an.
Speaker AEverybody breathes, but so very few people breathe correctly.
Speaker ASo teaching children a couple breathing exercises to calm down, that's just absolutely amazing.
Speaker AAnd I love that you brought that in.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaAnd like I said, our Sel specialist is just so amazing with the language and the way that she uses the description and the way she talks to the kids about it is just awesome.
ErikaSomething I could never do.
ErikaWhenever, like I said, whenever I hear her messages, I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is so good.
Speaker CThat is amazing.
Speaker ASo do you do them for yourself?
Speaker CYeah, actually, it's good for children and adults.
ErikaYes, definitely.
Speaker CEven grandma and grandpa sometimes need those.
Speaker CGood.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaEveryone needs just to take a breath every once in a while.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat's kind of one of the secrets of what we do is as the parents are learning how to work with the children, they're actually getting these lessons and changing their lives as well.
Speaker ASo, you know, that's why we call it bringing education home, because it's not just educating the children.
Speaker AThe parents learned so much that they might have missed and get some foundation work as they're working with their children.
Speaker ASo it's a lovely way to incorporate healing of the adults as well as.
ErikaTeaching of the children and just basic safety lessons as well, like wearing your seatbelt every time before the car starts to move.
ErikaEveryone needs to buckle up their seatbelt.
ErikaAnd you went too quick.
ErikaIf you didn't hear the click, if you hear the click, you know that your seatbelt is securely fastened.
ErikaIf you didn't hear that click, you went too quick.
ErikaAnd we've been doing these programs for 30 years now.
ErikaSo we've had millions of people impacted, thousands of testimonials and positive stories that have come out of it.
ErikaAnd we've had so many stories that have started where it was a complaint or like an issue for a parent, and it's turned into a really great positive outcome.
ErikaWe had a mom who's daughter told her, started telling, like, had seen one of our programs in her school and had started telling her, you know, mom, everyone needs to have their seatbelt on before the car can start to move.
ErikaAnd her mom called us and was very upset because she doesn't wear a seatbelt, and she doesn't need a seatbelt.
ErikaAnd her daughter keeps telling her she has to wear a seatbelt.
ErikaFlash forward, you know, almost two years later, she called us back because her suv rolled over on the highway.
ErikaAnd if she wasn't wearing her seatbelt that her daughter had, you know, ingrained in her as an adult, maybe she wouldn't be with us anymore.
ErikaSo she had called us back and said, you know what?
ErikaI take back everything I said about that because everyone needs to have their seatbelt on.
ErikaSo I think it's really great to have the kids sometimes teaching the adults in their life as well these important safety and well being lessons.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo, again, I'm not sure if this was part of the show, but we're Gen X.
Speaker AWe grew up in the seventies.
Speaker AI rode around in the back of pickup trucks, the station wagon.
Speaker ASometimes in the back, you would sit, lay in the dash in the back.
Speaker ADash in the sun.
Speaker AAnd so, yes, as kids, we, seatbelts were not a thing that kind of saved.
Speaker AAnd none of us really, we're still here, so many of us.
Speaker ABut we learned adolescents when it became a law.
Speaker AIt's like, I started wearing.
Speaker AI it's kind of weird.
Speaker AWhen Oregon passed the seatbelt law, I didn't vote in that election.
Speaker AAnd because I didn't vote, my weird ethics kicked in is like, okay, I didn't vote against it, so I have to wear my seatbelt.
Speaker AShe did vote, and she voted against it.
Speaker AAnd so I didn't bother her about wearing her seatbelt because she took a stand and I didn't.
Speaker ASo I had to deal with the consequences.
Speaker AThat's kind of the way my brain works.
Speaker ABut then something happened and she got in trouble, and so then she started wearing her seatbelt.
Speaker ANow whenever I get in a car, if I don't have a seatbelt on, it just feels weird.
ErikaIt feels weird?
ErikaYeah, absolutely.
Speaker AIt's like leaving your house without your phone.
Speaker AWe didn't have phones for years.
Speaker AI remember when I first got my first smartphone.
Speaker AWant a smartphone?
Speaker AI'll just take my flip phone.
Speaker AI just dial, I talk to people, texting, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker ANow I can't even imagine if I leave my house without my phone, I have to turn around and come back and get it because I feel like I've left an essential part home.
Speaker ASo that that's how you should view the seatbelt, too.
Speaker ASo it's like, once that, once that clicks in, it's amazing how that takes over.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaAnd just think about when you're talking about how you didn't wear seatbelts growing up.
ErikaLike, people didn't have phones in their car, like, there wasn't as much distracted driving happening.
ErikaSo, you know, we live in a very fast paced world now, and people are constantly going, going.
ErikaThey're late for something.
ErikaThey are speeding.
ErikaThey're maybe checking their phone.
ErikaSo maybe you're the best driver in the entire world, but maybe someone else isn't.
ErikaSo that's why you always need to wear your seatbelt, because it's not just about keeping the people like that, you know, are definitely safe in your car, but someone may interfere with that.
ErikaSo that's why it's really important to always buckle up.
Speaker AYep.
ErikaYep.
Speaker AThat was very well said.
Speaker AThat was very well said.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CSo, one more thing for our family.
Speaker CSo we've talked a lot about starting young, about talking about all these safety things.
Speaker CWhat if the parents kind of missed the boat?
Speaker CTheir kids are a little bit older.
Speaker CWhat's a tip that you can give them to start the conversations?
ErikaI would say start, like, watching, listening to the music.
ErikaYou can stream all of our educational music on all of the streaming platforms.
ErikaWe have videos that you can watch on YouTube, worksheets and educational resources that you can print and you can use in your home.
ErikaSo, yes, you may have started a little late, you're saying, but the messages are still there to learn.
ErikaSo who's a stranger.
ErikaYou can still teach that lesson at any age.
ErikaIt doesn't matter how old they are.
ErikaMaybe you're teaching it a little bit differently.
ErikaMaybe you're not using the discussion prompts that we give you for preschool age children.
ErikaMaybe you're using the discussion prompts for ages eight to ten, but you're still able to use, use those, those conversation starters and start talking about these important safety messages.
ErikaSo that inner voice, you know, maybe you didn't talk about that when they were very young, but you can still talk about that now.
ErikaAnd you can talk about maybe things that they wanted to talk about when they were younger or that they had weird feelings about.
ErikaSo you can still, you can still have those conversations and then you can bring them, you know, into the future.
Speaker CThank you.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker ABecause a lot of times the teenagers don't talk to parents is because they were never allowed to, and then they stopped trying.
Speaker AAnd so you actually start trying.
Speaker AA lot of times I will just wake that back up and you can build that relationship back and just make.
ErikaIt part of your routine, too.
ErikaSo those conversations are really important to have as part of a routine because then your child feels open to communication and it's part of the routine of like, oh, when we, you know, ride home from whatever sport or whatever activity that we're doing, how did that make you feel?
ErikaHow are you doing today?
ErikaIf they start practicing expressing themselves, it's going to become automatic when they need to share something.
ErikaYou know, if you have that open line of communication and then something just doesn't feel right to them, they're going to have that motivation to come forward right then and there and say, you know, something was kind of weird that happened today and how are we going to talk about it?
Speaker CLove it, love it, love it.
Speaker CThank you.
Speaker CWell, Erica, you have been such a gem to have on the show.
Speaker CAll these cool tips, all these excellent information, and this has been a wonderful conversation.
Speaker CWould you make sure that you let our audience know how to get a hold of you?
Speaker CAnd of course, everything will be in the show notes, but we like saying it out loud as well.
Speaker CHow can they get.
ErikaAbsolutely.
ErikaYeah.
ErikaSo on our website, lolaguanausa.org, you're going to find all of our lessons.
ErikaWe have over 20 safety and wellbeing lessons, and you can click on any of those lessons and you can find resources, worksheets.
ErikaWe have a story time podcast for kids.
ErikaWe have educational music.
ErikaWe have different videos that you can watch.
ErikaSo you could click on any of our lessons and you're going to find like, a wealth of resources that you can use to either start the conversation, start teaching, talk about how you're going to teach it, why you need to teach it, or just ways to reinforce a lesson if you've already started that conversation.
ErikaSo that is super important.
ErikaUm, like I was mentioning before, all of our educational music, you can stream Spotify, Apple Music, iHeartRadio, YouTube.
ErikaI can't think of any other ones, but we're on all of them.
ErikaUh, we also have a storytime podcast that kids can listen to in the car or at home or right before bedtime.
ErikaThe story is about eight to ten minutes long, and they just reinforce safety and well being themes while the characters Lil Iguana, you know, navigate his world of problem solving.
ErikaSo we have the storytime podcast that's called Lil Iguana and Friends.
ErikaAnd then, like I said, you can connect with us through all of our social media accounts.
ErikaFacebook, Instagram, TikTok at Lola, Guana safety.
Speaker CWonderful.
Speaker CThank you so very, very much.
Speaker CIs there anything that we didn't get to that you kind of want to talk about today?
Speaker CIs there something that you're like, oh, I really want to make sure I mention this when I'm on the show.
ErikaI think it's just important to get that conversation started.
ErikaI know we keep talking about it, but it's never too late to start.
ErikaIt's never too late to start talking about kindness or stranger danger or water safety or poison safety or being a good friend.
ErikaYou know, those are all things that I think it's really important to talk to kids about.
ErikaAnd it's never too late to start.
ErikaAnd if you feel like you can't start or you don't know where to start, our website has tons of resources.
ErikaWe also have our digital membership safety up, where you're going to get a monthly action planned emailed to you every month so that you don't need to even think about where or what I'm going to teach this month.
ErikaWe have a plan that's emailed to you each month.
ErikaAnd then you also have access to our online resource library that has hundreds of ready to use printables and activities that you can just download either to your tablet or your digital device, or you can print and use in your home.
ErikaSo we have that membership as well.
ErikaBut like I said, all of our educational music and resources are right online.
Speaker COh, wow.
Speaker CSo full of such great things that.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThank you, parents.
Speaker CListen up.
Speaker CThis is something that you can go and put in place right away.
Speaker CWe always want to make sure our children are so they can be happy, healthy, and successful, but let's just make sure we're doing it also in a fun way, and it sounds like little.
ErikaIguana in a memorable way so that they actually remember.
Speaker CAwesome.
Speaker CAll right, well, as we're wrapping up, we want to say thank you again for joining us, for giving us all the wonderful help and everything and for being on the show.
Speaker AAnd I love that you're working with your family, that you brought it together and you shared your traditions and you helped your dad.
Speaker AAnd then it just became this thing to keep your family together.
Speaker ASo part of a lot of what you're learning and what we're trying to teach is about helping to keep families together throughout the longer period, because it's not just when they turn 18, they're gone.
Speaker AYou want them there for the rest of your life.
Speaker AAnd it's amazing that you found a way to stay so close with your family.
Speaker ASo congratulations on that.
ErikaIt's really fun.
ErikaAnd thank you for being here.
ErikaWe do have our days, but for the most part, it's very fun.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CBut with that good communication, you can get through those.
ErikaAbsolutely.
Speaker CYou know, awesome.
Speaker CAll right, Erika and guests, thank you so much for being here today on bringing education home.
Speaker CWe are here for you to ask.
Speaker CAsk questions, answer questions, giving you resources to help your families be happy, healthy, and successful from now and into the future.
Speaker CUntil next time.
Speaker CBye for now.
Speaker ABye for now.