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Welcome to this week's
Crowd Church service.

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We are a digital church on a
quest to discover how Jesus helps

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us live a more meaningful life.

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We are a community, a space to explore
the Christian faith, and a place

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where you can contribute and grow.

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Our service will last about an hour,
and in a few seconds we will start

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with a time of worship, after which you
will meet our hosts for our service,

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who will introduce today's guest.

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Talk.

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After the talk, we head into Conversation
Street, where we look at your stories

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and questions that you've posted in the
comments throughout the live stream.

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I want to invite you to connect with
us here at Crowd Church, and there are

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a few ways that you can do just that.

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Firstly, you can engage with Crowd
from any device during our live

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stream, and if you're up for it.

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Why not invite a few friends over
and experience the service together?

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You see, church is all about connecting
with God and connecting with others,

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and one of the easiest ways for you
to do that is to also join one of our

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midweek groups where we meet online
together to catch up and discover

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more about the amazingness of Christ.

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You can also subscribe to
our podcast called What's.

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The Story, where we deep dive into stories
of faith and courage from everyday people.

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More information about all of these
things that I've mentioned can

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be found on our website at www.

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crowd.

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church or you can reach us on
social media at crowd church.

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If you're new to crowd or new to the
Christian faith and would like to

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know what your next steps to take are,
well why not head over to our website

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crowd.church/next, for more details.

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And now, the moment you've
been waiting for is here.

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Our online church service starts

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right now.

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Well, good evening and
welcome to Crowd Church.

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Uh, my name is Matt and beside
me is the incredible Dan Orange.

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Great that you're here.

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Great that you have joined us.

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We've just had a bit of a
mad tech issue, haven't we?

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We're definitely

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live, just to prove that

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we're live.

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Just to prove that we are live.

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We've got it all working and it's,
yeah, it's by the seat of your pants.

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And the reason why, uh, it was a little
bit shoestring, it was because, um,

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I was a bit late getting in because
I've just been at Abi Sharples

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wedding, who is now not Abi Sharples.

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Abi and Ami, congratulations.

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If you, um, If you don't know
Abi, and most of you watching

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this won't have a clue who Abi is.

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Abi was around in the early days of
crowd before she went off to university.

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She was part of the church plant team.

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Absolute legend, beautiful
voice, part of the worship team.

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Done quite a few of the talks actually,
you can see her in some of the videos.

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Um, and yeah, super, super awesome.

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So really excited for
Abi today to celebrate.

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Uh, with her, uh, yeah, Matt's putting
the comments here, Abi is a legend, she's

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totally is, uh, a legend, definitely,
uh, good to see you Matt, good to see

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you Graham, welcome, uh, if you are
watching us, uh, Dan, what have we

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got coming up while I catch my breath?

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Yes, so we have Pete Farrington coming
up and talking to us, um, on Acts, so

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I'm really looking forward to that.

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Yep.

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Oh, it's nice to be back, I
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been back a week, but, summer.

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And it feels like summer because
in the UK it's actually warm,

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so hot, it's quite warm in
this place, it is so, so hot.

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Um, at the wedding, at Abi's wedding,
um, we, she, the wedding was in

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this beautiful glass house, this
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It was so warm.

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So when we were in there, and Sharon
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I was like, there's a fan right there.

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I literally went and sat right next to the
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which is often not something you hear
the Brits talk about, or complain about.

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But you know, we're British, we
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So yes, so it's good to have you back.

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Yeah, it's good to be back.

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Good to be back.

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So we've got the legendary Pete Farrington
who is going to be sharing God's Word

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with us, which we can't wait to get into.

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If you're new to crowds,
um, let me introduce myself.

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My name is Matt.

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This is Dan, and we are an online
church just, you know, trying to

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figure out this whole Jesus thing.

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And to help us do that, today
we've got Pete Farrington who is

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talking from the book of Acts.

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And then you and I are going to
be back for Conversation Street.

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Sounds very good.

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Talking about the talk.

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So without further ado,
Shall we get into the talk?

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I think we should.

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I'm gonna press this button
here and just pray it works.

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Uh, yeah, the Lord be with us, please.

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Off in the prayer of the tech team.

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I've got no glasses because this
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I can actually see you.

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Does it look a bit weird?

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Oh, is that what Matt's
putting in the comments here?

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You forgot your glasses?

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Yeah, yeah.

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You've got your contact lenses.

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Can you see alright?

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I can.

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I've got a red eye today,
trying to get me into

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a bit of theory.

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Ah, we've all, anyone who's had
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you're talking about right now.

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We just do.

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It just is the way it is,
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So yes, well, you know, even though
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which is obviously an important thing.

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So anyway, that aside,
let's get into the talk.

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If you're new to Crowd, we've
been doing the Acts thing.

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Tell them about the Acts thing.

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Yeah,

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we've been doing the acts thing for
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that many chapters up to chapter 13
and we've done way more than 13 talks.

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But yeah, we've done a lot more.

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It's very detailed, um, walk
right through acts because if you

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wanna know about the Christian
Church, acts is the place to start.

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It's the acts, it's the
things the apostles did.

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The leaders, the starter.

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Yeah, yeah.

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The start of the early church.

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That they

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did.

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It's been a phenomenal series
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I mean it was great over the summer
the guys did the Psalms which was

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great and but it's nice to get back
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we are going to kick off The second
week we're back into the acting.

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We've got Pete Farrington.

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Dan and I will be back after
this, so grab your notebooks, grab

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your pens, write in the comments.

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We'd love your questions, we'd
love your thoughts as we go along.

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Dan and I are going to talk about
them when we get back, so we'll

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see you in just a short while.

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But here's Mr.

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Pete Farrington.

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Hello, Crowd Church.

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It's a pleasure to be able to
share with you again today.

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Now, I think I've said this on here
before, but I absolutely love painting

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and During the process of a painting, I
will usually, a couple of times, take a

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photo of it and then digitally play around
with the contrast in order to see how

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much I need to increase the contrast in
order to really make it, the image pop.

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And I grew up in the church and
I think that for most of my life,

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the message I'm going to share
today didn't really do much for me.

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It was like the contrast had been
turned all the way down and I could

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discern the general shapes and basic
information but it didn't grip me.

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It was, it was easy to look
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It wasn't an arresting image.

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It wasn't an image that could hold my
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That all kind of changed a few years ago,
and now I find that my eyes will never

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finish taking in all there is to see, and
I will never exhaust it of its beauty.

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So my prayer today is that the contrast
will be turned all the way up for us.

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And today we're going to
be looking at Acts 13.

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It's a bit of a long passage, so I'm just
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then we'll hone in on a couple of verses.

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So Paul and Barnabas are on
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And after arriving in the city of Antioch,
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And then after the reading of
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synagogue ask Paul and Barnabas.

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If they have a word of encouragement
for the people and Paul and Barnabas

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then kind of give this overview of the
history of the Jewish people, how God

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chose this people for himself and he
made them great in the land of Egypt

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and then he led them out of Egypt.

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Jesus put up with them
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rebellion in the wilderness.

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And then he, he wiped out their
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them into the promised land.

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And then they spoke about how he gave
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just as he had promised he would.

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And Jesus carried out all that
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He was executed and laid in a tomb,
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And then for many days, Jesus
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And all God's promises to Israel
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And this sermon then reaches
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It says, Let it be known to you therefore,
brothers, that through this man, Jesus,

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forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you.

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And by him, everyone who believes is
freed from everything from which you

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could not be freed by the law of Moses.

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And in those two little verses,
Paul so wonderfully encapsulates

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the gospel, and it has striking
similarities to Peter's preach on

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Pentecost, which is found in Acts 2,
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Peter said this, Repent and be
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the name of Jesus Christ, for the
forgiveness of your sins, and you will

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receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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For the promise is for you and
for your children and for all

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who are far off, everyone whom
the Lord God calls to himself.

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So 15 years have passed since
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it was still the same message.

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And 2, 000 years on, the
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And actually Paul was around when,
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Sanhedrin in Acts 5, if you remember
that, um, when, when Stephen said this,

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God exalted Jesus at his right hand as
leader and saviour to give repentance

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to Israel and forgiveness of sins.

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And we're told that Paul had approved
of Stephen's stoning that day, and

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here he is now in Acts 13, preaching
that very same message that he'd

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wanted Stephen killed for preaching.

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In Jesus Christ alone, there
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And for the rest of his life,
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He said later in 1 Corinthians 2,
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to know nothing among you, Except
Jesus Christ and him crucified.

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Elsewhere in 1 Corinthians he said, Woe
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But what about Jesus?

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What did he have to say?

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In Luke 24 we see, he said, Then he opened
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And he said to them, Thus it is written,
That he the Christ should suffer, And

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on the third day rise from the dead.

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That repentance for the forgiveness of
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to all nations beginning from Jerusalem.

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Now I just think this is amazing.

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Let's think about it a moment.

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What does it, what does it mean
to understand the scriptures?

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Because the Bible has something to say
about all matters of life and God's word

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should inform how we live, how we think,
how we, uh, how we, how we respond and

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how we feel about things in this world.

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It's got something to
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Sex, marriage, parenting, government,
work, leisure, the church.

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But if we ever just start seeing the
Bible as like a guidebook for how to

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be good people, or as a formula for
personal development, or a how to for

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living a fulfilling life, then it won't
be long until we go way off track.

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Because Jesus showed us here in Luke
24 that, and it's not the only time he

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did this, That this is his story about
what he came into this world to do.

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And he was saying, hey, you guys didn't
understand the scriptures because you

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didn't see that I was on every page.

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So how is the story going to make
sense to you if you don't even

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recognise the main character?

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But let's take a step back and go to
those, two little verses in Acts 13.

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I'll read it again.

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Let it be known to you, therefore,
brothers, that through this man

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forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you.

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And by him, everyone who believes is
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could not be freed by the law of Moses.

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Now you might be thinking, what is the law
of Moses and what's it got to do with me?

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Well, the law of Moses was the 600 plus
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The foundation of which
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You've probably heard of them.

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Um, but the law is really like a mirror.

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It shows us our condition.

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And Romans 3 speaks of how through
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It says this in verses 19 and 20.

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The law's purpose is to keep people
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the entire world is guilty before God.

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For no one can ever be made right with
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The law simply shows us how sinful we are.

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That standard is perfection.

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It's holiness.

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Galatians 3 verse 24 tells us that
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It couldn't actually save anyone.

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It was useless for that.

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Galatians 3 verses 10 to 11 says, Those
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right with God are under his curse.

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For the scriptures say, Cursed is
everyone who does not observe and

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obey all the commands that are
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So it is clear that no one can be made
right with God by trying to keep the law.

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The message that we really don't
like is not necessarily the message

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that we need a saviour, but rather
the message that we can't and won't

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be the ones to save ourselves.

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I remember seeing a short while ago an
image posted on Instagram which brazenly

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declared, We will save ourselves.

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Now, Jesus really didn't
have a lot of positive things

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to say about the Pharisees.

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Those people in his day who thought that
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the law and, and they looked down on
others who, and, and think, well, at

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least I'm, I'm not like those, those
people over there, better than them.

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And self righteousness might not look
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but I, I would posit that we're living
in a time in which people are just as

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self righteous as those in, in AD 30.

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Not a whole lot has changed in 2000 years.

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Because we look with condescending
eyes at the history books, pointing

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the finger with disdain at those
who've gone before us for having faults

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and blind spots and for not reaching
our superior level of morality.

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Societies constantly drawing up
revised lists of acceptable opinions

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to hold and telling us this is how
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can be pure, and we frantically
scramble to signal to the world that.

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We've purified ourselves and those
who don't hold to whatever the

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accepted beliefs are are done away
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We see this all the time.

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And of course, in years to come, if
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our lives through a microscope, there'd
be nothing to be ashamed of, right?

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Like no one in times to come
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down statues of us, would they?

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Because despite, despite us living in
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era, I really couldn't help but
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and religious nature to some of the
responses to George Floyd in 2020.

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People were told, you've got to do
the work, read this list of books and

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give money to these organisations,
repeat these mantras, post a

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black square on your social media.

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You can be clean.

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You can purge yourself of your sin,
but then people were simultaneously

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told the work never ends.

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Keep doing the work.

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The work never ends, and I'm saying all
this not to upset anyone, but merely

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to say that no matter what age you
live in, no matter what culture you

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look at, you're always going to find
countless man made means of attaining

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forgiveness, salvation, and purification.

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And every single one is futile.

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The work never ends, because
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Like, we've seen this, I think,
recently in the UK, with the case

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of, uh, the killer nurse, Lucy Letby.

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We pile 14 life sentences on her
to recognize the value of the

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lives of those precious image
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And with a one life, she can't pay it.

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But what happens when the one
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bearer of God, but God himself?

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How can one mere man pay the debt?

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He can't.

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So, we're going to get a little
bit philosophical now for a

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moment, if you'll indulge me.

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C.

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S.

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Lewis says in his wonderful book
called Mere Christianity that there are

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two odd things about the human race.

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First, that they were haunted
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behaviour they ought to practice.

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What you might call fair play or decency
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And the second thing was that
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He says, for the trouble is that one
part of you is really on God's side and

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really agrees with his disapproval of
human greed and trickery and exploitation.

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You may want him to make an
exception for you in your own

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case, to let you off this one time.

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But you know at bottom that
unless the power behind the world

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really and unalterably detests
behaviour, then he cannot be good.

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Now on the other hand, we know that if
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it must hate most of what we do.

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And that is the terrible
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If the universe is not governed by
an absolute goodness, then all our

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efforts are in the long run hopeless.

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But if it is, then we are making
ourselves enemies to that goodness

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every day, and are not in the least
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And so our case is hopeless again.

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We cannot do without it,
and we cannot do with it.

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God is the only comfort.

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He is also the supreme terror.

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The thing we most need and the
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He's our only possible ally, and
we have made ourselves his enemies.

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Some people talk as if meeting the
gaze of absolute goodness would be

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fun, but they need to think again.

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Now you might respond to C.

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Lewis and say, well, what is
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That can differ across
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Like, it's all subjective, isn't it?

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To which he'd reply, Well, the moment
you say that one set of moral ideas

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can be better than another, you are in
fact measuring them both by a standard,

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saying that one of them conforms to that
standard more closely than the other.

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But the standard that measures two things
is something different from either.

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You are in fact comparing them both with
some real morality, admitting that there

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really is such a thing as real right.

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Independent of what people think and
that some people's ideas get closer

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to that real right than others.

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Like if, if your, if your moral ideas
can be truer and those of the Nazis

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less true, there must be something, some
real morality for them to be true about.

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So like I said before, God's
law shows us what that standard

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is, what that real right is.

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And what c s Lewis was really doing
there was unpacking Romans two, where

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it says in verse 14 to 16, for when
Gentiles or non-Jews who do not have the

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law by nature, do what the law requires.

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They are a law to themselves.

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Even though they do not have the law.

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They show that the work of the law
is, is written on their hearts while

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their conscience also bears witness.

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And their conflicting thoughts accuse,
or even excuse them, on that day when,

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according to my gospel, God judges
the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

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Now this is really sobering stuff.

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C.

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Lewis calls them terrifying facts.

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But we should not hurry past this.

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Christianity does, at first,
present us with terrifying facts.

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But it does, if we'll be humble enough
to be honest about our condition,

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give us a hope and a comfort beyond
anything we could even dare to imagine.

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So if you, if you can't shake the feeling
that you haven't hit the mark, that

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you're desperately sick, well, that
really just means that the mirror is

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clean and you are seeing yourself rightly.

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When the grumbling Pharisees
questioned why Jesus ate with

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sinners, Jesus answered with this.

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Those who are well have no need of
a physician but those who are sick.

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I have not come to call the
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So if I wanted to lie to you, if
I hated you, I would say that you

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are well, that you are perfect as
you are, and that you are enough.

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I would say you just need to
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you can love yourself back to life.

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I'd come up with a five step program
of things that you can do to shift

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that sense of guilt and inadequacy.

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I would repackage the gospel,
soften the edges as some have

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done, in order to stroke your ego.

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But I'm not going to lie to you, because
Jesus is a skilled physician, so it

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is no bad thing to come to him sick.

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All the self medicating
just will not work.

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You need a better physician.

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To repeat what C.

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Lewis said, we have made
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But here is the good news.

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Jesus Christ came into this
world to die for his enemies.

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Like, who does that?

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Imagine if you were to draw up
a list of all the people that

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you would be willing to die for.

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How long would that list really be?

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Like, your spouse and children, your
close family and friends, would you put

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random, random acquaintances on there?

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People that you consider nice and kind?

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What

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about people

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who you don't consider to be good?

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What about your enemies?

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Would you have people on
that list who hate you?

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And remember, we're still
only speaking in human terms.

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The creator of the universe,
to whom all the peoples of the

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earth are like grasshoppers,
died for those who hated him.

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Now that is a love like no other.

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There is today a, really a circular
definition of love, almost as

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if we have no idea what it is.

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Love is love is love is love.

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The great story of the Bible is that
the innocent died for the guilty, and

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the victim died for the perpetrator.

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The creator died for the creation.

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This is love.

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Now, you can, you can speak
positive affirmations over yourself

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until you're blue in the face.

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Go get them, you've got what it takes.

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But it will never be enough.

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Trying to save yourself is an unbearable
weight that no person can carry.

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It will crush you and condemn you to hell.

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But what is of utmost importance
is what God says of you.

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And if you repent of your sin and cling
to Jesus and the work that He has done on

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your behalf, you are declared justified.

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It says Galatians, in Galatians 3
verse 13, God has rescued us from

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the curse pronounced by the law.

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When he was hung on that cross, he took
upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing.

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So in the place of a
curse, we get blessing.

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In the place of our rebellion against
God, we get Jesus Christ's perfect record.

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In the place of our enmity with
God, we get friendship with God.

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In the place of despair, we get hope.

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In the place of debt, we get forgiveness.

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Anything that you think might cause
you to be overwhelmed with shame, when

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meeting the gaze of absolute goodness,
all of that was dealt with in full when

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Jesus Christ was crucified, taking the
punishment for our sin upon himself.

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In Christ, we are freed from
everything, from every sin.

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And there's a lot that is
contained in that word, everything.

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Think about that today.

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I'm going to leave you with this verse in
1 Thessalonians 5, verses 9 through 10.

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For God has not destined us for wrath,
but to obtain salvation through our

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Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so
that whether we are awake or asleep.

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We might live with him.

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Thank you for listening.

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Coming up we have Conversation Street but
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apps.

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I could see like there'd been a lot
of darkness a lot of struggles with

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depression up to that point and I
just just knew that if I didn't choose

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God I I wasn't sure what my life
would look like and if I actually

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would be around for much longer.

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So I just thought, I'll give God
a go and try and see what happens.

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And that was almost 20 years ago.

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It's been an interesting
journey being a Christian.

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And there are days where, you
know, you feel like you're

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clinging on by your fingertips.

460
00:27:29,050 --> 00:27:31,070
But I think what keeps me going is...

461
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,280
Knowing what it was like before I met
God, and knowing that actually, even in

462
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,720
the really challenging times right now,
it's better than it was without Him.

463
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:48,850
Yeah, that thing of becoming Christian
doesn't equal a perfect life, even

464
00:27:48,850 --> 00:27:52,290
though, you know, you did say God
really brought a clear sense of hope.

465
00:28:04,148 --> 00:28:06,888
So welcome back to Conversation Street.

466
00:28:06,888 --> 00:28:07,868
Let's go to this camera.

467
00:28:08,208 --> 00:28:10,258
I should really check these
scenes before we go live.

468
00:28:10,788 --> 00:28:12,128
It's great to have you with us.

469
00:28:12,398 --> 00:28:13,788
Thanks Pete for that talk.

470
00:28:14,418 --> 00:28:17,913
Pete was Well, he didn't pull
any punches, did he really?

471
00:28:20,343 --> 00:28:23,393
Which is why we love it when Pete
talks, I mean he is just properly

472
00:28:23,403 --> 00:28:24,753
straight to the point and it's great.

473
00:28:24,753 --> 00:28:28,423
So we are going to get into that.

474
00:28:28,663 --> 00:28:31,353
Big shout out to Isaac who's
joined us on Facebook, he's

475
00:28:31,373 --> 00:28:34,148
actually watching us from Kenya.

476
00:28:34,298 --> 00:28:34,658
Mm.

477
00:28:35,108 --> 00:28:37,718
Uh, it says, so, uh, Isaac,
if you're still watching, uh,

478
00:28:37,718 --> 00:28:38,588
great to have you with us.

479
00:28:39,098 --> 00:28:40,958
Uh, Sarah's no doubt that we can complain

480
00:28:40,958 --> 00:28:45,878
about being slightly warm before . I
suspect it's probably a bit warm

481
00:28:46,928 --> 00:28:48,698
, 
I suspect you are probably correct, sir.

482
00:28:48,878 --> 00:28:49,148
Yes.

483
00:28:49,153 --> 00:28:50,048
Yes, absolutely.

484
00:28:50,558 --> 00:28:52,088
Uh, do forgive all the tech around me.

485
00:28:52,093 --> 00:28:53,888
It's just so I can keep
track of all the comments.

486
00:28:55,708 --> 00:28:58,738
, it's unbelievable the amount of tech
we've got going on around us here.

487
00:28:59,278 --> 00:29:02,853
Um, But yes, Pete's talk.

488
00:29:03,263 --> 00:29:04,413
Let's get into that.

489
00:29:04,793 --> 00:29:10,343
Uh, whilst, uh, before we do, uh, it's
worth saying you can post your comments,

490
00:29:10,343 --> 00:29:14,363
thoughts, ideas in the comments,
either on Facebook or YouTube, uh, and

491
00:29:14,363 --> 00:29:16,193
we will try our best to go through.

492
00:29:16,193 --> 00:29:19,963
Any questions, any thoughts
on that, do let us know.

493
00:29:20,423 --> 00:29:22,333
So Dan, let's start off
with a comment you wrote.

494
00:29:22,373 --> 00:29:25,443
In the space of desperation, we have hope.

495
00:29:26,543 --> 00:29:29,343
Yeah, I love that as, um, Pete sort of...

496
00:29:29,783 --> 00:29:38,263
Concluded at the end that we, um, we're
not left, we're not left with, so Pete

497
00:29:38,263 --> 00:29:43,173
did quite a detailed explanation of the
law, and it does get very, very deep,

498
00:29:43,183 --> 00:29:48,963
very quickly, um, and it's taken me, I
don't understand it all, but it's taken

499
00:29:49,043 --> 00:29:54,683
me years to, to understand more and
more about what, what this was, that

500
00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:57,693
was, the law is there, and the law.

501
00:29:59,228 --> 00:30:03,088
The Law of Moses, but just, just the
law, say, let's say the law of the UK.

502
00:30:03,318 --> 00:30:04,528
We know what's right and wrong.

503
00:30:04,568 --> 00:30:04,898
Yeah.

504
00:30:05,028 --> 00:30:10,198
Um, I was reading on Facebook
today about, there's a new law

505
00:30:10,228 --> 00:30:13,258
guideline in the UK about driving.

506
00:30:13,258 --> 00:30:15,978
And if you turn into a road,
someone can just walk out and

507
00:30:15,978 --> 00:30:18,628
basically they're in the right now.

508
00:30:18,628 --> 00:30:20,348
So we have to be careful as we're drivers.

509
00:30:20,628 --> 00:30:26,438
So there's that law to, to guide
us, but that law can't save us.

510
00:30:27,178 --> 00:30:32,228
I still break, break that law
and we can never keep every one

511
00:30:32,228 --> 00:30:34,618
of those commandments and laws.

512
00:30:34,628 --> 00:30:35,968
It's just, it's impossible.

513
00:30:37,088 --> 00:30:44,028
We'd have to be perfection, but I like
that God's standard is perfection.

514
00:30:44,398 --> 00:30:49,058
You know, without that, I think
I wrote in my notes that we, we

515
00:30:49,058 --> 00:30:49,948
just have religion, don't we?

516
00:30:49,948 --> 00:30:50,098
The law.

517
00:30:54,178 --> 00:30:54,738
It's religion.

518
00:30:54,738 --> 00:30:57,838
It's a list of things to do, but it can't

519
00:30:57,938 --> 00:30:59,838
itself save you.

520
00:31:00,068 --> 00:31:03,428
Yeah, such is the irony of it.

521
00:31:03,488 --> 00:31:05,498
You know, this is, this is religion.

522
00:31:05,508 --> 00:31:07,508
These are all the things that you
need to do to get eternal life.

523
00:31:08,368 --> 00:31:09,608
By the way, you can never do them.

524
00:31:09,608 --> 00:31:12,588
And even if you could, that in itself
could not bring you eternal life.

525
00:31:13,638 --> 00:31:15,918
It's a really fascinating conundrum.

526
00:31:16,368 --> 00:31:19,158
Uh, that's existing.

527
00:31:19,168 --> 00:31:22,898
So you, in the light of that,
you then go, Pete is right.

528
00:31:22,908 --> 00:31:27,138
There is this good news of Jesus
because without Jesus, there's no hope.

529
00:31:27,188 --> 00:31:27,468
Yeah.

530
00:31:27,858 --> 00:31:34,738
Um, and just thinking about your,
uh, driving thing there, Dan, I must

531
00:31:34,738 --> 00:31:36,468
fracture the occasional driving law.

532
00:31:36,588 --> 00:31:36,818
Yes.

533
00:31:38,718 --> 00:31:42,618
Uh, I, you know, I, I, there
are some things about the.

534
00:31:43,118 --> 00:31:48,108
The state of English driving law that I'm
not fully compliant with all of the time

535
00:31:48,588 --> 00:31:51,828
and as a result, I fracture those laws.

536
00:31:51,828 --> 00:31:54,388
I'm sure I'm not admitting to
anything, especially on camera, but

537
00:31:54,388 --> 00:31:58,068
I would say I've probably not kept
every single law down to perfection.

538
00:31:59,368 --> 00:32:00,568
Some of that will be ignorance.

539
00:32:00,868 --> 00:32:01,938
Some of that is

540
00:32:02,798 --> 00:32:03,148
intentional.

541
00:32:03,888 --> 00:32:07,858
Yeah, and even if we had robot drivers,
I think there's still exceptions.

542
00:32:08,368 --> 00:32:09,958
We don't drive on tracks, do we?

543
00:32:09,998 --> 00:32:12,638
There's no, there's always little, yeah,

544
00:32:12,738 --> 00:32:15,138
um, always these little notes.

545
00:32:15,358 --> 00:32:20,398
Well, if it's as difficult as it is to
maintain this, the driving laws and the

546
00:32:20,398 --> 00:32:27,138
standard of the driving laws, then the
laws of morality, the laws of holiness,

547
00:32:27,138 --> 00:32:29,788
the laws that govern eternal life.

548
00:32:30,538 --> 00:32:33,818
It's not a surprise that they're
slightly more complicated and

549
00:32:33,818 --> 00:32:38,628
numerous than, say, driving laws.

550
00:32:38,628 --> 00:32:43,608
So it's not a, in the context of
that, and in the context of the

551
00:32:43,608 --> 00:32:47,378
wider law of the land, it's not a
big surprise, is it, that there is a

552
00:32:47,388 --> 00:32:50,088
law which governs the Kingdom of God.

553
00:32:50,568 --> 00:32:56,558
Um, yet we, we, there's no
chance that we can keep it.

554
00:32:56,558 --> 00:32:58,348
And I think this is the
fundamental truth of...

555
00:32:58,978 --> 00:33:02,629
Christianity that Pete came,
he talked about it, didn't he?

556
00:33:02,629 --> 00:33:04,198
He came to it at some point in his talk.

557
00:33:05,558 --> 00:33:12,938
Well we've watered down, in effect,
the gospel to a degree that quite

558
00:33:12,938 --> 00:33:16,508
often we don't acknowledge this point
or we don't understand this point.

559
00:33:16,508 --> 00:33:17,338
Would you agree with that?

560
00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:17,848
I think

561
00:33:17,848 --> 00:33:18,788
so, yeah.

562
00:33:19,308 --> 00:33:25,728
I think we come to a point where
perhaps we don't come to it.

563
00:33:27,798 --> 00:33:30,698
The church, religion, media,
whatever it might be, comes to a

564
00:33:30,698 --> 00:33:35,108
point and says, Oh, but that's a
bit too, bit too hard, isn't it?

565
00:33:35,148 --> 00:33:35,538
Yeah.

566
00:33:35,628 --> 00:33:43,718
That might offend someone, that
might be a law that a quite big group

567
00:33:43,718 --> 00:33:46,478
of people don't really agree with.

568
00:33:46,848 --> 00:33:52,168
Um, and, and Pete put down
this circle of love, didn't he?

569
00:33:52,338 --> 00:33:52,638
Yeah.

570
00:33:52,638 --> 00:33:55,518
That sort of, love, oh we must love.

571
00:33:56,058 --> 00:34:00,218
Because we must love who we must
love, but, but where's the standard?

572
00:34:00,978 --> 00:34:03,398
I always think that when I'm looking
at the news, and when I'm looking

573
00:34:03,398 --> 00:34:08,888
at my own life, and what I'm doing,
and how I'm living, and how I'm

574
00:34:08,888 --> 00:34:14,728
bringing up my kids, how I'm bringing
up myself, um, where's my standard?

575
00:34:15,088 --> 00:34:18,968
Because I always think, if
it didn't know Jesus, where,

576
00:34:21,328 --> 00:34:22,238
where do I go?

577
00:34:22,778 --> 00:34:23,388
Where do you find the answer?

578
00:34:24,678 --> 00:34:25,708
No, it's a fair one, isn't it?

579
00:34:25,708 --> 00:34:27,748
It's a tricky one because,
and again, coming back to C.

580
00:34:27,748 --> 00:34:27,928
S.

581
00:34:27,928 --> 00:34:33,418
Lewis, you know, if you judge your
actions right in the context of

582
00:34:33,418 --> 00:34:37,808
somebody else's actions, so, um,
and this is very, we see this a lot,

583
00:34:37,808 --> 00:34:43,738
don't we, at the moment in, uh, in
culture, um, I'm right, you're wrong.

584
00:34:44,278 --> 00:34:46,048
Um, I'm on the left, you're on the right.

585
00:34:46,108 --> 00:34:48,888
I hold this opinion, you hold
that opinion, you're wrong.

586
00:34:49,263 --> 00:34:53,453
Therefore, uh, you are bigoted,
or you're intolerant, or you're

587
00:34:53,463 --> 00:34:54,653
liberal and you're left leaning.

588
00:34:55,123 --> 00:34:57,703
I mean, there's, there's
different accusations going

589
00:34:57,703 --> 00:34:59,153
across different, uh, sides.

590
00:34:59,413 --> 00:35:01,223
So each side is measuring each side.

591
00:35:01,223 --> 00:35:02,583
So what are they measuring it against?

592
00:35:02,583 --> 00:35:03,853
They're measuring against themselves.

593
00:35:03,853 --> 00:35:04,083
Yeah.

594
00:35:04,373 --> 00:35:09,403
So they're saying that I'm the source
of truth, which then says, uh, because

595
00:35:09,403 --> 00:35:12,383
I am the source of truth, we come
up with these phrases, don't we?

596
00:35:12,383 --> 00:35:12,953
I'm going to live.

597
00:35:13,358 --> 00:35:18,388
My truth, uh, do you, do you, uh,
is one of my favorite phrases, you

598
00:35:18,388 --> 00:35:21,768
do you, if it works for you, if it
works for you, as long as you're not

599
00:35:21,768 --> 00:35:27,058
hurting anybody, you know, phrases
like this, which I find very, very

600
00:35:27,078 --> 00:35:29,458
peculiar phrases in a lot of ways.

601
00:35:30,078 --> 00:35:31,188
So living your truth.

602
00:35:31,208 --> 00:35:36,948
So we have now elevated ourselves where
we become the single point of truth in.

603
00:35:37,543 --> 00:35:37,853
Life.

604
00:35:37,853 --> 00:35:40,713
So I'm going to judge you
based on my opinion of truth.

605
00:35:41,193 --> 00:35:44,693
And if you don't measure up to my
opinion of truth, well, you're screwed.

606
00:35:44,763 --> 00:35:45,123
Yeah.

607
00:35:45,353 --> 00:35:46,263
Do And if you

608
00:35:46,623 --> 00:35:50,583
broke your own standard of truth a
few years ago, and you wrote about

609
00:35:50,613 --> 00:35:54,443
it, you're in a real pile, aren't you?

610
00:35:54,503 --> 00:35:55,663
Because what

611
00:35:56,063 --> 00:35:56,433
can you do?

612
00:35:57,393 --> 00:35:58,093
And we see this.

613
00:35:58,093 --> 00:36:01,553
People get cancelled, for want of a
better expression, because of what

614
00:36:01,553 --> 00:36:03,093
they wrote on Twitter five years ago.

615
00:36:03,143 --> 00:36:03,583
And of course.

616
00:36:04,333 --> 00:36:06,783
They've moved on or things have
changed or things, but it's not that

617
00:36:06,793 --> 00:36:10,953
they need to not be held accountable
for what they wrote, but it's a

618
00:36:10,953 --> 00:36:12,243
really interesting one, isn't it?

619
00:36:12,293 --> 00:36:16,733
It just proves that actually the
definition of truth, the standard by

620
00:36:16,733 --> 00:36:21,813
which you are judging other people,
by which you are judging society, that

621
00:36:21,823 --> 00:36:27,513
standard is constantly changing based
on what you know and how you feel.

622
00:36:27,873 --> 00:36:29,503
And in a lot of ways.

623
00:36:30,363 --> 00:36:31,903
Who you're associated with.

624
00:36:31,983 --> 00:36:32,303
Yeah.

625
00:36:32,523 --> 00:36:33,003
Do you know what I mean?

626
00:36:33,003 --> 00:36:35,673
Because it's like, well, I'm going
to get a lot of my opinions from

627
00:36:35,673 --> 00:36:39,723
my tribe, the tribe's going to help
me form my opinions, aren't they?

628
00:36:40,203 --> 00:36:46,153
Um, and so how I feel, who I'm connected
with, and the culture and society, you

629
00:36:46,153 --> 00:36:49,633
know, what I think about something at
the time, that's my definition of truth.

630
00:36:49,633 --> 00:36:52,253
The problem with that,
it's always changing.

631
00:36:52,263 --> 00:36:52,703
Yes.

632
00:36:53,553 --> 00:36:54,843
And so how do, how do we know?

633
00:36:55,333 --> 00:37:00,013
Because the goalposts are always
moving and so it's, um, it's a, I

634
00:37:00,013 --> 00:37:01,793
find the conversation fascinating.

635
00:37:02,123 --> 00:37:02,833
And I think,

636
00:37:04,283 --> 00:37:06,623
I think it's something we
should talk about as well.

637
00:37:06,623 --> 00:37:12,453
That's what I, that's what I miss is,
isn't that the right, the right word?

638
00:37:12,553 --> 00:37:18,703
I, um, on the news and in life it's very
hard sometimes to talk about certain

639
00:37:18,713 --> 00:37:21,553
things because they are maybe against.

640
00:37:22,018 --> 00:37:25,278
The culture, or they're slightly
to that side that people are a

641
00:37:25,278 --> 00:37:26,868
little bit wary about talking about.

642
00:37:27,428 --> 00:37:31,168
I'm talking about
universities and debates.

643
00:37:31,468 --> 00:37:37,688
But surely, if something is, is
right, it will hold up in a debate.

644
00:37:37,958 --> 00:37:39,818
Let's talk about those things.

645
00:37:39,848 --> 00:37:40,918
That's why I love this.

646
00:37:40,988 --> 00:37:44,478
I love crowd, that you can just put in
your messages and we can talk about stuff.

647
00:37:44,508 --> 00:37:47,968
Because if something can't
be talked about, then...

648
00:37:48,938 --> 00:37:50,148
You know, yeah, where do we go?

649
00:37:50,218 --> 00:37:50,868
Where do we go?

650
00:37:50,918 --> 00:37:52,508
Yeah, where do we go as a society?

651
00:37:52,958 --> 00:37:54,138
And it's an interesting one, isn't it?

652
00:37:54,138 --> 00:38:01,288
Because there's this whole thing about,
um, you know, that I was watching

653
00:38:01,298 --> 00:38:05,408
something the other day and the press
talking about, is it right to teach

654
00:38:05,448 --> 00:38:13,148
our children, um, about gender identity
when they're five, for example?

655
00:38:13,548 --> 00:38:18,243
Now, I appreciate I'm opening a whole
can of worms just by bringing out the

656
00:38:18,243 --> 00:38:20,513
question, but follow my thinking on this.

657
00:38:20,513 --> 00:38:24,643
Now, some people would say, yes,
we should teach the Majungas 5.

658
00:38:24,643 --> 00:38:28,303
Some people would say, no, we
should not teach the Majungas 5.

659
00:38:28,973 --> 00:38:34,013
And the people that say yes, I heard
them saying to the people that said no,

660
00:38:35,103 --> 00:38:39,283
that they are curbing freedom of speech.

661
00:38:40,133 --> 00:38:43,553
Um, and so, you know, we should not.

662
00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:49,508
Um, we should not, not teach about
this in the classroom because

663
00:38:49,848 --> 00:38:51,008
that was the whole argument.

664
00:38:51,508 --> 00:38:56,848
Yet, the, the debate back then
was says, well, should we then

665
00:38:56,848 --> 00:38:59,433
teach about, I don't know.

666
00:39:00,343 --> 00:39:03,093
How to commit suicide when you're
as young as four years old.

667
00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:06,153
And I can't remember what the exact
topic was and I appreciate I'm going very

668
00:39:06,153 --> 00:39:08,843
extreme to, to, to highlight the point.

669
00:39:09,253 --> 00:39:10,473
And they were like, no, we shouldn't.

670
00:39:11,203 --> 00:39:12,803
And so then the definition moves.

671
00:39:12,813 --> 00:39:13,963
So it's like, well, no, hang on a minute.

672
00:39:13,973 --> 00:39:18,003
You're now saying that there are things
that we should legislate that we shouldn't

673
00:39:18,003 --> 00:39:20,543
teach children as young as four or five.

674
00:39:21,183 --> 00:39:24,383
But this, and, and so our
standards all vary, but like I

675
00:39:24,383 --> 00:39:26,163
say, based on, on where we are.

676
00:39:26,163 --> 00:39:28,003
And so society has no standard of truth.

677
00:39:28,568 --> 00:39:34,858
Um, which we would, and in Christian
circles, would then say that is the

678
00:39:34,858 --> 00:39:39,048
gospel, that is scripture and it
is the fundamental truth of God.

679
00:39:39,078 --> 00:39:41,478
Jesus said, I am the way, I am the truth.

680
00:39:41,498 --> 00:39:44,158
So we would say that that
is the source of truth.

681
00:39:44,548 --> 00:39:45,838
And I've used this example before.

682
00:39:46,858 --> 00:39:50,178
And I'm going to use it again, Dan,
because I like it, um, and, uh,

683
00:39:50,178 --> 00:39:51,218
you know, I've got the microphone.

684
00:39:54,008 --> 00:39:57,068
And so my question that I've
asked on Crowd before, and I'm

685
00:39:57,069 --> 00:40:00,118
going to ask you again, how fast
are you traveling right now?

686
00:40:00,148 --> 00:40:01,098
It's not a trick question.

687
00:40:01,888 --> 00:40:03,118
I'm not trying to catch anybody out.

688
00:40:03,848 --> 00:40:05,068
I'm not traveling very fast.

689
00:40:06,003 --> 00:40:07,003
I'm sat on a chair.

690
00:40:08,083 --> 00:40:09,093
My backside is still.

691
00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:12,873
And so relative to what I see
around me, relative to the walls,

692
00:40:12,873 --> 00:40:15,763
relative to the studio, the desk,
to you, I'm not moving, right?

693
00:40:16,253 --> 00:40:18,003
That is a source of truth.

694
00:40:18,943 --> 00:40:22,163
But the earth spins around the sun.

695
00:40:22,363 --> 00:40:24,353
So I'm spinning around the sun.

696
00:40:25,393 --> 00:40:27,783
And I think it spins around
the sun, it orbits the sun at

697
00:40:27,783 --> 00:40:29,993
like 28, 000 miles an hour.

698
00:40:30,883 --> 00:40:31,293
Pretty fast.

699
00:40:34,273 --> 00:40:38,043
I, I, I mean, I've never had to go
to court to defend a speeding ticket

700
00:40:38,043 --> 00:40:39,433
and praise the Lord at a prayer.

701
00:40:39,433 --> 00:40:39,993
I never have to.

702
00:40:40,443 --> 00:40:45,163
Uh, but part of me would, would find it
fascinating if someone went into court and

703
00:40:45,163 --> 00:40:46,663
the judge said, how fast were you going?

704
00:40:46,663 --> 00:40:50,453
And the chap turns around and says,
about 28, 000 miles an hour, because

705
00:40:50,453 --> 00:40:52,163
that's how fast we're moving.

706
00:40:52,183 --> 00:40:53,313
I just can't see it.

707
00:40:53,313 --> 00:40:54,123
I can't sense it.

708
00:40:54,123 --> 00:40:58,333
I can't necessarily feel it because I'm
looking at life relative to what I see.

709
00:40:58,833 --> 00:41:03,203
And as we expand our view,
we see a different story.

710
00:41:03,983 --> 00:41:06,583
Um, and that's what scripture does, right?

711
00:41:06,593 --> 00:41:09,253
And that's what Pete was talking
about at the start in terms of the

712
00:41:09,253 --> 00:41:13,693
contrast with his painting and,
and seeing paintings in a stronger

713
00:41:13,693 --> 00:41:15,333
contrast paintings that challenge him.

714
00:41:15,593 --> 00:41:18,723
In other words, he'd zoomed out and
he was seeing things in the context of

715
00:41:18,723 --> 00:41:25,153
a bigger story, a bigger truth, which
said, actually, not all have sinned.

716
00:41:25,413 --> 00:41:25,733
Yeah.

717
00:41:25,833 --> 00:41:30,443
Well, that's a very, that's a very
interesting proposition to start from.

718
00:41:32,073 --> 00:41:32,313
Yeah,

719
00:41:32,333 --> 00:41:34,473
where's your, where's your
perspective, isn't it?

720
00:41:35,823 --> 00:41:37,233
That's what, where's your
perspective on earth?

721
00:41:37,243 --> 00:41:40,693
Is it, is it a heavenly, um, perspective?

722
00:41:40,793 --> 00:41:41,123
Yeah.

723
00:41:41,213 --> 00:41:47,023
Um, and I think just sort of,
again, not wanting to get too into,

724
00:41:47,183 --> 00:41:52,693
um, the culture at the moment,
but culture is a perspective.

725
00:41:52,823 --> 00:41:53,113
Yeah.

726
00:41:53,213 --> 00:41:53,633
Isn't it?

727
00:41:53,773 --> 00:41:56,403
And, and the church has been, um,

728
00:42:01,283 --> 00:42:02,123
What's that, how to describe it?

729
00:42:02,123 --> 00:42:06,803
The church has been a place where
culture has been blotted out and we've

730
00:42:06,803 --> 00:42:13,593
missed great opportunities and great
truths from different cultures and

731
00:42:13,593 --> 00:42:19,133
thought that our, sometimes, a lot of
the time, our white culture was the, was

732
00:42:19,133 --> 00:42:21,163
Christian and that's, you know, garbage.

733
00:42:21,263 --> 00:42:24,613
Yeah, but we're, so we have
missed it, so we have missed it.

734
00:42:25,333 --> 00:42:29,183
Just miss that out as well and get
mixed up with where culture can

735
00:42:29,183 --> 00:42:35,173
come in, but that still just goes
back to Jesus, the creator of all

736
00:42:35,183 --> 00:42:37,503
races, you know, the creator of us.

737
00:42:39,678 --> 00:42:40,488
Oh, it's incredible.

738
00:42:40,548 --> 00:42:41,608
Yeah, it's incredible.

739
00:42:41,868 --> 00:42:44,408
So, what's Miriam put
here in the comments?

740
00:42:44,408 --> 00:42:44,758
Hi, guys.

741
00:42:44,758 --> 00:42:45,928
Peter's talk was amazing.

742
00:42:45,958 --> 00:42:47,408
I feel free in Jesus.

743
00:42:47,408 --> 00:42:50,058
He's given me the right
to feel myself always.

744
00:42:50,658 --> 00:42:52,338
Which I totally agree, Miriam.

745
00:42:52,338 --> 00:42:53,848
And this is the interesting
thing, isn't it?

746
00:42:54,288 --> 00:42:58,018
The reality of it is, there's this
truth in the Bible about grace.

747
00:42:58,068 --> 00:43:01,148
Grace is, we call grace
a free gift, don't we?

748
00:43:01,148 --> 00:43:02,288
It's something you can't earn.

749
00:43:03,098 --> 00:43:05,158
The Bible says Ephesians
2, 8, you have been saved.

750
00:43:05,548 --> 00:43:09,968
Uh, by grace through faith, it's not
anything you've done, so you can't

751
00:43:09,968 --> 00:43:14,008
boast about it, it's just something
that God did through the work of

752
00:43:14,008 --> 00:43:16,598
Christ on the cross, you're going
to have to deal with that, right?

753
00:43:16,638 --> 00:43:20,128
No, it's just a lesson we all have
to keep learning, um, that it's

754
00:43:20,148 --> 00:43:22,108
about grace, it's about what he did.

755
00:43:23,173 --> 00:43:27,633
So there's always this tension between
what grace and works so people read that

756
00:43:27,633 --> 00:43:31,113
and then go well therefore I don't have to
do anything that's not what it says what

757
00:43:31,113 --> 00:43:35,973
grace does is it reframes it so instead
of working to earn my salvation I have my

758
00:43:35,973 --> 00:43:38,303
salvation and therefore I can do works.

759
00:43:38,463 --> 00:43:38,743
Yes.

760
00:43:38,753 --> 00:43:40,493
Very different, right, perspective.

761
00:43:40,513 --> 00:43:41,383
Very different feel.

762
00:43:41,943 --> 00:43:48,723
And so when it comes to identity and who
you are in Christ and this understanding

763
00:43:48,743 --> 00:43:53,883
of the gospel and the work of Jesus
and what he's done on the cross, well

764
00:43:53,893 --> 00:43:55,283
that's the same sort of thing, isn't it?

765
00:43:55,573 --> 00:43:57,633
I'm not working to try and earn that.

766
00:43:57,633 --> 00:44:01,203
I'm not trying to attain that
by following certain laws.

767
00:44:02,018 --> 00:44:08,178
I have been given an identity, but out
of that I then live my life according to

768
00:44:08,178 --> 00:44:13,918
my personality, according to what God has
called me to do, according to that sort

769
00:44:13,918 --> 00:44:17,668
of unique flavour, I suppose, that God's
going to bring to the world through me

770
00:44:17,678 --> 00:44:19,708
because we all are unique and individual.

771
00:44:19,748 --> 00:44:19,978
Yeah.

772
00:44:20,788 --> 00:44:21,298
Absolutely.

773
00:44:21,298 --> 00:44:21,418
And I

774
00:44:21,448 --> 00:44:30,183
think, um, that, um, In Hebrews, it says
faith without works is dead, doesn't it?

775
00:44:30,193 --> 00:44:32,133
So we've been saved, but if
you're not doing anything

776
00:44:32,133 --> 00:44:33,133
about it, well, that's a bit...

777
00:44:33,353 --> 00:44:34,653
Technically, it says that in James, but...

778
00:44:34,673 --> 00:44:35,713
In James, sorry.

779
00:44:35,873 --> 00:44:36,833
I thought I got the right book as well.

780
00:44:38,273 --> 00:44:39,333
I should have just said the Bible.

781
00:44:39,633 --> 00:44:40,243
The only reason,

782
00:44:40,243 --> 00:44:42,783
yeah, to say the Bible, the only reason
I said that is somebody, probably

783
00:44:42,783 --> 00:44:46,373
Matt Crew, would have put in the
comments, oh no, that's not right.

784
00:44:48,123 --> 00:44:50,523
Um, so that we...

785
00:44:51,558 --> 00:44:54,628
We've been saved but there's
still, we can't just sit there

786
00:44:55,328 --> 00:44:56,908
and keep this to ourselves.

787
00:44:56,908 --> 00:45:01,438
It's like we have this privilege to
love others, we have this privilege to

788
00:45:01,628 --> 00:45:07,668
feed the poor, we have the privilege to
clothe, you know, bring the gospel, heal

789
00:45:07,668 --> 00:45:11,188
the sick, you know, help the homeless.

790
00:45:11,738 --> 00:45:13,258
It's a privilege, isn't it?

791
00:45:13,578 --> 00:45:14,248
Yeah, it totally is.

792
00:45:14,248 --> 00:45:20,088
It's something that God has given
us to do, to look after our...

793
00:45:20,943 --> 00:45:21,653
Our fellow man.

794
00:45:21,813 --> 00:45:22,913
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

795
00:45:23,213 --> 00:45:24,343
And you can't get away from it.

796
00:45:24,343 --> 00:45:28,083
It's not like, um, it's, it's
not like you're excused from it.

797
00:45:28,333 --> 00:45:35,013
I, one of the things that I thought
was fascinating, um, was when Pete

798
00:45:35,013 --> 00:45:39,803
talked about the terrifying facts
of Christianity, uh, but we don't,

799
00:45:40,223 --> 00:45:43,373
Christianity doesn't leave you
just with the terrifying facts.

800
00:45:43,373 --> 00:45:46,833
It gives you the hope, it gives
you the way out, the way of escape

801
00:45:46,833 --> 00:45:48,103
for into a better expression.

802
00:45:48,703 --> 00:45:49,388
Um, yeah.

803
00:45:49,988 --> 00:45:54,858
This phrase he used that I wrote down,
um, we live in a world which tells us

804
00:45:54,898 --> 00:45:57,378
that we can love ourselves back to life.

805
00:45:58,308 --> 00:46:01,208
Um, which I thought was interesting.

806
00:46:02,718 --> 00:46:04,708
Where, where do you
think you've seen that?

807
00:46:07,098 --> 00:46:07,508
I think

808
00:46:08,578 --> 00:46:08,588
Facebook.

809
00:46:10,448 --> 00:46:13,378
It's the source of Facebook, isn't it?

810
00:46:15,063 --> 00:46:20,103
Yeah, that it's all, there's the Disney
life that we can, nothing's impossible.

811
00:46:20,173 --> 00:46:20,553
Yeah.

812
00:46:20,593 --> 00:46:28,833
We can do it all ourselves, within
us is the, yeah, the capability,

813
00:46:29,803 --> 00:46:32,813
which, yeah, and it's come
back to this again, isn't it?

814
00:46:32,813 --> 00:46:37,153
If I see myself as the source
of truth, then I can see

815
00:46:37,153 --> 00:46:38,893
myself as my source of healing.

816
00:46:38,943 --> 00:46:41,103
And I love that.

817
00:46:41,918 --> 00:46:45,278
What Pete drew out from the scripture, you
know, that Jesus is the great physician.

818
00:46:45,278 --> 00:46:48,308
It's one of the things he talks about
himself in the in, in scriptures.

819
00:46:48,908 --> 00:46:52,328
Um, and he said, it's no
bad thing to come to Jesus.

820
00:46:52,328 --> 00:46:53,078
Very sick.

821
00:46:53,108 --> 00:46:53,288
Yeah.

822
00:46:53,468 --> 00:46:55,208
Because he's the greatest of physicians.

823
00:46:55,213 --> 00:46:55,448
Yeah.

824
00:46:55,778 --> 00:46:56,168
Jesus

825
00:46:56,173 --> 00:46:56,888
said, I love that.

826
00:46:57,278 --> 00:47:01,118
I didn't come for the, the,
well, you know, I'm a physician.

827
00:47:01,118 --> 00:47:02,288
I came for the sick.

828
00:47:02,378 --> 00:47:02,589
Yeah, yeah.

829
00:47:02,594 --> 00:47:03,158
Came Yeah.

830
00:47:03,938 --> 00:47:06,908
And to realize that you're
sick is a big thing.

831
00:47:06,908 --> 00:47:08,228
I remember to speaking to someone.

832
00:47:08,228 --> 00:47:08,558
Oh.

833
00:47:09,558 --> 00:47:13,328
I'm realising that I'm getting
a bit old because today

834
00:47:13,528 --> 00:47:13,918
You're only

835
00:47:13,918 --> 00:47:19,228
just realising that I know, because I
went for a walk in Liverpool and I said,

836
00:47:19,228 --> 00:47:24,208
oh do you remember that fun park that we
used to go to down at the Festival Gardens

837
00:47:24,248 --> 00:47:30,018
in Liverpool, you can Wikipedia it And I
was like, oh, that was 35 years ago No!

838
00:47:31,528 --> 00:47:34,748
Stone the crows No Um,
where was I going with that?

839
00:47:35,128 --> 00:47:36,478
Getting old Um

840
00:47:39,743 --> 00:47:40,873
You've lost your train of thought now.

841
00:47:41,293 --> 00:47:43,123
You've totally gone to Festival Gardens.

842
00:47:43,163 --> 00:47:43,733
Yes.

843
00:47:44,663 --> 00:47:45,053
I'm

844
00:47:46,193 --> 00:47:47,163
hoping it'll come back to me.

845
00:47:47,183 --> 00:47:50,053
I've no doubt, you'll get
that moment of revelation.

846
00:47:50,363 --> 00:47:53,743
But it is no bad thing to
come to the vision, physician.

847
00:47:55,933 --> 00:47:56,643
Physician.

848
00:47:56,723 --> 00:47:58,153
Physician, sick, I can't
even talk right now.

849
00:47:59,093 --> 00:48:00,443
But yeah, it's no bad thing.

850
00:48:00,443 --> 00:48:01,763
It's no bad thing at all, is it?

851
00:48:01,803 --> 00:48:06,283
And so, um, in closing,
because I'm aware of time.

852
00:48:06,873 --> 00:48:08,003
Oh, sorry, can I just?

853
00:48:08,093 --> 00:48:09,163
Yeah, you've figured

854
00:48:09,163 --> 00:48:09,353
it out now.

855
00:48:09,353 --> 00:48:10,043
I've figured it out.

856
00:48:10,383 --> 00:48:15,403
So I was speaking to, I used to go out
to teas and coffees, um, in Liverpool

857
00:48:15,403 --> 00:48:18,863
city centre, at like two o'clock
in the morning, to people that were

858
00:48:19,153 --> 00:48:24,013
slightly inebriated, to homeless,
and just chat, chat about things.

859
00:48:24,443 --> 00:48:30,463
And, um, one girl said to me,
Don't like the phrase, being saved.

860
00:48:30,713 --> 00:48:31,043
It's a bit...

861
00:48:32,133 --> 00:48:33,363
It's a bit serious, isn't it?

862
00:48:33,363 --> 00:48:34,843
It's a bit extreme.

863
00:48:35,143 --> 00:48:36,733
Perhaps we should change that word.

864
00:48:37,963 --> 00:48:38,863
Can't, can we?

865
00:48:38,953 --> 00:48:39,933
No, you can't.

866
00:48:40,853 --> 00:48:44,223
It's being saved, it's
literally being plucked out.

867
00:48:44,223 --> 00:48:45,923
That's the, that's the gospel.

868
00:48:45,973 --> 00:48:46,933
That's the good news of Jesus.

869
00:48:47,293 --> 00:48:47,673
Yeah.

870
00:48:48,313 --> 00:48:48,713
We need

871
00:48:48,753 --> 00:48:50,073
to be saved.

872
00:48:50,503 --> 00:48:52,293
We don't, we don't just
need a pat on the back.

873
00:48:52,333 --> 00:48:54,393
No, but you're okay.

874
00:48:54,513 --> 00:48:55,503
Yeah, you're not too bad.

875
00:48:55,513 --> 00:48:57,263
You're an 8 out of 10.

876
00:48:57,273 --> 00:48:58,423
Have a lollipop, you'll be fine.

877
00:48:59,123 --> 00:49:01,133
Um, no, this isn't, it
doesn't work like that.

878
00:49:01,453 --> 00:49:05,793
Um, and, uh, that's definitely the
Christian gospel right there, isn't it?

879
00:49:05,793 --> 00:49:07,633
But the, again, the good news of Jesus.

880
00:49:07,633 --> 00:49:11,423
The thing that I wanted to draw back to.

881
00:49:12,203 --> 00:49:15,123
And I thought, I wrote it down in
my notes, I thought if you are new

882
00:49:15,123 --> 00:49:19,043
to the Christian faith, first time
coming to a kind of church service

883
00:49:19,043 --> 00:49:24,873
or watching something like this, he
used a phrase, he used this phrase,

884
00:49:24,873 --> 00:49:29,693
repent, you had to repent of your sin.

885
00:49:30,308 --> 00:49:33,618
And I thought, and then he goes on to
talk, he talked about substitution,

886
00:49:33,618 --> 00:49:34,838
I'll come to substitution in a minute.

887
00:49:35,378 --> 00:49:37,358
But it's this phrase, repent of
your sin, which you'll have seen

888
00:49:37,358 --> 00:49:38,638
on billboards all over the world.

889
00:49:39,298 --> 00:49:40,888
Let's just explain what that means.

890
00:49:41,018 --> 00:49:41,708
Go for it, Dan.

891
00:49:45,388 --> 00:49:49,378
In its simplest terms,
repent means to turn around.

892
00:49:49,379 --> 00:49:49,738
Yeah.

893
00:49:49,738 --> 00:49:50,908
I think it was a Latin.

894
00:49:51,388 --> 00:49:51,658
Yeah.

895
00:49:51,658 --> 00:49:52,028
Can't be Latin.

896
00:49:52,238 --> 00:49:54,208
They didn't speak Latin, Roman term.

897
00:49:54,308 --> 00:49:54,848
It was repent.

898
00:49:54,988 --> 00:49:55,863
It was turn around.

899
00:49:55,863 --> 00:49:59,448
Turn around in the direction you're
going, realise that's the wrong way.

900
00:50:00,398 --> 00:50:00,678
Yeah.

901
00:50:00,738 --> 00:50:01,568
And turn around.

902
00:50:01,628 --> 00:50:01,878
Yeah.

903
00:50:02,238 --> 00:50:09,828
Um, and sometimes there might be, there
will be consequences to that as well.

904
00:50:10,208 --> 00:50:12,568
Um, and it's not always easy.

905
00:50:12,758 --> 00:50:14,668
Sometimes it's, Oh yeah, I
know it's going the wrong way.

906
00:50:14,778 --> 00:50:17,688
Sometimes it's, I don't
want to turn around.

907
00:50:17,758 --> 00:50:18,218
Yeah.

908
00:50:18,338 --> 00:50:18,888
Um, but

909
00:50:18,888 --> 00:50:19,148
yeah.

910
00:50:22,733 --> 00:50:26,003
It's turning around, it's,
it's recognising you're sick.

911
00:50:26,023 --> 00:50:26,273
Yeah.

912
00:50:26,613 --> 00:50:28,083
And going, I need to go see the doctor.

913
00:50:28,083 --> 00:50:31,833
It's recognising your need to be saved.

914
00:50:32,413 --> 00:50:36,603
That actually, um, sin, missing
God's standard, missing God's

915
00:50:36,603 --> 00:50:38,003
mark, which we have all done.

916
00:50:39,803 --> 00:50:43,903
We all know we have not attained
anything in God's eyes where

917
00:50:43,903 --> 00:50:45,333
righteousness is concerned.

918
00:50:45,853 --> 00:50:48,653
We have to receive God's grace.

919
00:50:49,008 --> 00:50:50,338
That's all we can do.

920
00:50:51,938 --> 00:50:52,998
All you can do is receive it.

921
00:50:53,008 --> 00:50:53,789
You cannot earn it.

922
00:50:53,789 --> 00:50:55,518
It is a gift, a free gift.

923
00:50:55,868 --> 00:50:57,038
And that's the beautiful thing.

924
00:50:57,038 --> 00:50:58,758
That's the wonderful thing
about the Christian faith.

925
00:50:59,888 --> 00:51:02,988
And that's sort of what happens.

926
00:51:03,238 --> 00:51:08,938
And Pete talked about how we
give Jesus our sin, he gives us

927
00:51:08,938 --> 00:51:11,638
his righteousness, which just
means right standing before God.

928
00:51:11,638 --> 00:51:16,838
So he, the thing that stops us being able
to be in the presence of God, Jesus takes.

929
00:51:17,443 --> 00:51:19,543
And he puts us in the presence of God.

930
00:51:19,993 --> 00:51:25,173
And this idea of substitution where,
um, Jesus takes upon himself stuff

931
00:51:25,183 --> 00:51:29,103
that we struggled with and gives us
stuff that he doesn't struggle with.

932
00:51:29,573 --> 00:51:34,223
Um, so the Bible talks about he
takes upon himself our sicknesses.

933
00:51:34,743 --> 00:51:36,963
And our diseases and
that we get is healing.

934
00:51:36,963 --> 00:51:37,833
He takes our sin.

935
00:51:37,833 --> 00:51:39,043
We get his righteousness.

936
00:51:39,543 --> 00:51:41,613
We give him our fear and our anxiety.

937
00:51:41,623 --> 00:51:43,023
He gives us his peace.

938
00:51:43,513 --> 00:51:50,123
There's this swap which happens the
moment we recognize the need for grace.

939
00:51:50,123 --> 00:51:51,553
And this is what salvation is.

940
00:51:51,553 --> 00:51:55,793
It's not a, it's not a problem in the
sense of a lot of people, certainly when

941
00:51:55,793 --> 00:51:57,993
I was younger, were like, well, I don't
want to do that Christianity thing.

942
00:51:57,993 --> 00:51:58,593
It's just boring.

943
00:51:58,593 --> 00:52:01,463
A lot of regulations and rules,
which the church, you know, to

944
00:52:01,473 --> 00:52:03,493
be fair, is painted far from it.

945
00:52:03,868 --> 00:52:07,518
You know, you, there is a grace, a
revelation of grace, which then says,

946
00:52:07,518 --> 00:52:12,818
right, I am standing in the grace of God,
and all this stuff, all this fear, all

947
00:52:12,818 --> 00:52:17,938
this anger, all this bitterness, all this
sin, all this jealousy, all this pride.

948
00:52:18,428 --> 00:52:19,798
I don't, all this shame.

949
00:52:20,408 --> 00:52:22,778
Jesus takes it all and then
gives us all the cool stuff.

950
00:52:24,298 --> 00:52:25,938
That is why we call it good news.

951
00:52:26,828 --> 00:52:27,048
That's

952
00:52:27,158 --> 00:52:27,588
great.

953
00:52:27,768 --> 00:52:32,818
Um, just to bring up that
word shame, because that's.

954
00:52:34,048 --> 00:52:40,528
Something that in this culture and
an Instagram lifestyle, a Facebook, a

955
00:52:40,528 --> 00:52:44,138
web lifestyle, people live in shame.

956
00:52:44,728 --> 00:52:45,788
In a massive amount of shame.

957
00:52:45,788 --> 00:52:46,578
In a massive amount

958
00:52:47,248 --> 00:52:51,628
of thinking, why should I look like
this, why should I do that, shouldn't

959
00:52:51,628 --> 00:52:54,668
I look like them, shouldn't I be
like them, shouldn't I have that

960
00:52:54,668 --> 00:52:59,428
much money, shouldn't I be doing
that, shouldn't that be my identity?

961
00:53:00,253 --> 00:53:02,553
But he's come to take away our shame.

962
00:53:02,573 --> 00:53:03,063
Yeah.

963
00:53:03,263 --> 00:53:05,653
Isn't that just, yeah, amazing.

964
00:53:05,763 --> 00:53:07,003
Yeah, no, totally.

965
00:53:08,183 --> 00:53:11,403
Right, I think on that note, Dan,
which I think is a very good note,

966
00:53:11,543 --> 00:53:14,173
we should probably end Conversation
Street because I feel like time is,

967
00:53:14,253 --> 00:53:17,173
it's definitely running away from us.

968
00:53:17,263 --> 00:53:20,633
Right, next week, let's
talk about next week.

969
00:53:20,663 --> 00:53:22,583
Has Matt reminded me that I
need to talk about next week?

970
00:53:22,603 --> 00:53:25,873
Yes, coming up we wrap Conversation
Street, we promote the Zoom and we let

971
00:53:25,873 --> 00:53:26,953
you know what's happening next week.

972
00:53:27,313 --> 00:53:28,143
God bless you, Mr.

973
00:53:28,173 --> 00:53:28,533
Crew.

974
00:53:28,968 --> 00:53:34,188
Um, so let me add this to the, he
says I would add it to the broadcast

975
00:53:34,218 --> 00:53:36,258
if I could find my flipping mouse.

976
00:53:36,258 --> 00:53:38,388
Pointer that, nah, it's not gonna happen.

977
00:53:39,588 --> 00:53:40,428
. I just can't see it.

978
00:53:42,528 --> 00:53:46,068
. So, coming up next week, we have
Dave Connolly, uh, speaking with us.

979
00:53:46,068 --> 00:53:48,888
We're gonna carry on our journey
through the Book of Acts.

980
00:53:49,368 --> 00:53:52,408
Um, And we're still on chapter 13.

981
00:53:54,798 --> 00:53:56,538
Yes, we are.

982
00:53:56,548 --> 00:53:57,688
We are enjoying this.

983
00:53:57,778 --> 00:54:02,598
Um, so yeah, we've got, uh, chapter
13 carrying on with the book of Acts.

984
00:54:02,598 --> 00:54:03,338
It's going to be a few months.

985
00:54:03,368 --> 00:54:04,358
Let's just face facts.

986
00:54:04,378 --> 00:54:06,308
We're going to be another six
months in the book of Acts.

987
00:54:06,308 --> 00:54:08,198
I would have thought it was going
to take us through to next year.

988
00:54:08,768 --> 00:54:10,668
After which, you know what
I'm really keen to look at?

989
00:54:11,328 --> 00:54:12,088
Relationships.

990
00:54:13,283 --> 00:54:13,973
Really keen.

991
00:54:13,983 --> 00:54:16,333
I don't know if we will because
obviously you and I and Anna

992
00:54:16,413 --> 00:54:17,243
have not talked about this yet.

993
00:54:18,023 --> 00:54:20,603
Um, but yeah, we may be
looking at, uh, relationships.

994
00:54:20,773 --> 00:54:21,063
Don't know.

995
00:54:21,313 --> 00:54:21,973
We'll see.

996
00:54:22,273 --> 00:54:24,253
Any topics you want us to cover,
do let us know, by the way.

997
00:54:24,503 --> 00:54:25,253
We're super interested.

998
00:54:27,048 --> 00:54:28,888
So there's still 12 months of Acts, Matt.

999
00:54:28,888 --> 00:54:29,178
Yeah, totally.

1000
00:54:31,318 --> 00:54:33,538
So we are going to be with Dave Connolly.

1001
00:54:33,538 --> 00:54:36,988
Sharon is going to be hosting,
I think, with me next week.

1002
00:54:37,638 --> 00:54:39,898
So do come and join us for that.

1003
00:54:40,888 --> 00:54:42,908
Huge, you stepped in at the
last minute to come and host

1004
00:54:42,908 --> 00:54:43,818
today, so thanks for doing that.

1005
00:54:43,958 --> 00:54:44,368
No worries.

1006
00:54:46,173 --> 00:54:49,853
Start the barbeque, sort tea.

1007
00:54:49,863 --> 00:54:50,533
Barbeque,

1008
00:54:50,533 --> 00:54:51,493
night, tonight.

1009
00:54:52,283 --> 00:54:54,063
So yes, that's what's happening next week.

1010
00:54:54,083 --> 00:54:58,073
Of course, if you have been watching on
Facebook, we also live stream on YouTube.

1011
00:54:58,133 --> 00:55:00,963
If you watch us on YouTube,
we have started back again

1012
00:55:00,963 --> 00:55:02,243
live streaming on Facebook.

1013
00:55:02,243 --> 00:55:05,793
We do live stream on both, which
is why Isaac and Hilary and various

1014
00:55:05,793 --> 00:55:10,138
people are watching us on Facebook,
according to my My little thingy here.

1015
00:55:10,418 --> 00:55:11,908
And Miriam apparently was on both.

1016
00:55:11,908 --> 00:55:15,128
You were on both Facebook and YouTube.

1017
00:55:15,128 --> 00:55:16,668
That means you get us
in stereo, I suppose.

1018
00:55:17,398 --> 00:55:21,078
But no, seriously, do like and
subscribe wherever you prefer us.

1019
00:55:21,688 --> 00:55:22,448
Promote the Zoom.

1020
00:55:22,538 --> 00:55:24,058
Yes, do you want to do that, Dan?

1021
00:55:24,678 --> 00:55:26,678
So, the midweek Zoom.

1022
00:55:27,228 --> 00:55:30,628
Yeah, just drop an email in, contactcrowd.

1023
00:55:31,958 --> 00:55:33,518
church, there we go.

1024
00:55:34,018 --> 00:55:35,938
And you'll get sent details.

1025
00:55:36,323 --> 00:55:40,363
Midweek Zoom to meet up and
to pray, meet up online.

1026
00:55:40,433 --> 00:55:43,433
Yeah, yeah, we meet up, we
catch up online on Zoom, 8 p.

1027
00:55:43,433 --> 00:55:43,583
m.

1028
00:55:43,583 --> 00:55:45,153
UK time, that's 3 p.

1029
00:55:45,153 --> 00:55:45,303
m.

1030
00:55:45,333 --> 00:55:46,433
Eastern Standard Time.

1031
00:55:47,083 --> 00:55:49,183
They're the two time zones I give
out because most people know where

1032
00:55:49,183 --> 00:55:50,073
they are in relation to those.

1033
00:55:50,633 --> 00:55:51,213
But yeah, 8 p.

1034
00:55:51,213 --> 00:55:51,323
m.

1035
00:55:51,323 --> 00:55:51,893
in the UK.

1036
00:55:51,893 --> 00:55:54,133
If you want to come join us in Zoom,
it'd be great to see you in there.

1037
00:55:54,523 --> 00:56:00,863
And like I said last week, coming up in
Crowd, we're going to start doing Zoom.

1038
00:56:02,208 --> 00:56:05,768
After the service, so the service is going
to, do you remember Do you remember that?

1039
00:56:05,808 --> 00:56:06,688
I do, yeah.

1040
00:56:06,688 --> 00:56:07,908
You just sounded really surprised.

1041
00:56:07,908 --> 00:56:07,918
A

1042
00:56:09,498 --> 00:56:10,248
lot has happened since then.

1043
00:56:11,248 --> 00:56:11,548
Yeah.

1044
00:56:12,098 --> 00:56:13,888
And he needs to like the
barbecue, his stomach's talking.

1045
00:56:14,338 --> 00:56:19,148
Um, so yeah, we're going to be doing
Zooms after the service, just for 10

1046
00:56:19,149 --> 00:56:21,858
15 minutes, to open it for anybody
who wants to come join in and say hi.

1047
00:56:22,348 --> 00:56:25,808
Uh, we'll be doing that,
um, in the next few weeks.

1048
00:56:25,808 --> 00:56:28,198
We'll let you know once
that's all set up and running.

1049
00:56:28,678 --> 00:56:31,838
Um, but yeah, if you're, if you
want to, after the Crowd Church

1050
00:56:31,838 --> 00:56:34,688
service, come and join in the Zooms.

1051
00:56:34,868 --> 00:56:36,018
Matt says, where's the worship?

1052
00:56:37,223 --> 00:56:37,913
It's disappeared, hasn't it?

1053
00:56:38,053 --> 00:56:38,423
It's gone.

1054
00:56:38,963 --> 00:56:39,353
Yeah, yeah.

1055
00:56:39,353 --> 00:56:40,923
So again, we're changing worship.

1056
00:56:40,933 --> 00:56:42,073
We're going to do worship
in a different way.

1057
00:56:42,883 --> 00:56:45,733
Going forward, we're not going
to do worship in the service

1058
00:56:46,773 --> 00:56:48,343
for a number of reasons, really.

1059
00:56:48,343 --> 00:56:50,413
We've talked about this, haven't
we, on the leadership team.

1060
00:56:50,733 --> 00:56:51,483
For a number of reasons.

1061
00:56:51,483 --> 00:56:56,263
One, I think doing worship on
a live stream is quite tricky.

1062
00:56:57,613 --> 00:56:59,663
Engagement, if I look
at the engagement stats.

1063
00:57:00,608 --> 00:57:03,898
Uh, it goes down during worship,
goes up during the talk, and

1064
00:57:03,898 --> 00:57:05,468
then plummets if I'm hosting.

1065
00:57:06,108 --> 00:57:06,578
I'm joking.

1066
00:57:07,138 --> 00:57:08,118
Um, I'm not.

1067
00:57:08,448 --> 00:57:12,228
Uh, so we were just like, well, what
would happen if we took the worship

1068
00:57:12,228 --> 00:57:15,218
out, we went straight into the talk,
we did a shorter conversation street

1069
00:57:15,218 --> 00:57:16,878
and did a zoom thing at the end.

1070
00:57:17,328 --> 00:57:21,533
Now that's what we're going to start
doing on the Sundays, but There are some

1071
00:57:21,533 --> 00:57:23,843
ideas now around how do we do worship.

1072
00:57:23,843 --> 00:57:25,693
So we're going to start
curating playlists.

1073
00:57:26,223 --> 00:57:28,573
Um, obviously we've got the
tracks we've already done,

1074
00:57:28,573 --> 00:57:29,883
which you can see on YouTube.

1075
00:57:29,983 --> 00:57:32,503
If you go to the Crowd YouTube page,
you'll see all the worship tracks

1076
00:57:32,503 --> 00:57:36,253
we've done and you can, uh, worship
along to those at your heart's content.

1077
00:57:37,593 --> 00:57:41,523
We're gonna look at curating playlists
maybe on something like Apple or Spotify.

1078
00:57:41,523 --> 00:57:44,193
I have no idea how we do that, but this
was just some of the ideas that we floated

1079
00:57:44,193 --> 00:57:44,313
around.

1080
00:57:44,313 --> 00:57:49,593
Yeah, we can speak to, um, I, I
do pa at our church, uh, physical

1081
00:57:49,593 --> 00:57:52,053
church and, um, in-person church.

1082
00:57:52,053 --> 00:57:52,923
In-person church.

1083
00:57:53,043 --> 00:57:53,433
That's the one.

1084
00:57:53,673 --> 00:57:53,913
Yeah.

1085
00:57:54,363 --> 00:57:58,953
Um, and so I'm the worship team
of WhatsApping and they have a.

1086
00:58:02,388 --> 00:58:04,718
There's a whole playlist of the other
thing that we were thinking about

1087
00:58:04,788 --> 00:58:10,778
is maybe once a term, uh, or once a
semester for those outside of the UK.

1088
00:58:10,778 --> 00:58:11,788
So there's three of them a year.

1089
00:58:11,788 --> 00:58:17,698
So, um, doing a live worship event
where it's just worship, um, from here,

1090
00:58:17,698 --> 00:58:20,138
possibly, uh, from somewhere else.

1091
00:58:20,458 --> 00:58:23,708
And so that's how we're thinking of
moving worship to making them more

1092
00:58:23,708 --> 00:58:28,528
like live worship events, uh, which
we will obviously live stream out.

1093
00:58:28,928 --> 00:58:32,278
Uh, over the World Wide Web and you can
join in like you do on the YouTube stuff.

1094
00:58:32,898 --> 00:58:35,688
Um, so yeah, there's all kinds
of conversations around that.

1095
00:58:35,688 --> 00:58:39,138
So, uh, watch this space, but as
things currently stand, there's

1096
00:58:39,138 --> 00:58:40,508
no worship at the start of Crowd.

1097
00:58:40,928 --> 00:58:42,418
Do let us know what you think about this.

1098
00:58:42,458 --> 00:58:45,158
Obviously, we're making these changes
and we'd love to get your feedback.

1099
00:58:46,218 --> 00:58:48,688
If we're making the right decisions
or the wrong decisions, you know,

1100
00:58:48,718 --> 00:58:51,348
we, we feel like we're, we're
hopefully doing the right thing.

1101
00:58:51,848 --> 00:58:54,548
Um, but yeah, we'd love to
know what you think about it.

1102
00:58:54,578 --> 00:58:56,488
Matt says, love all the new worship ideas.

1103
00:58:57,108 --> 00:58:57,828
Can we do baby shark?

1104
00:58:58,178 --> 00:59:01,168
Not on any kind of level.

1105
00:59:01,308 --> 00:59:02,988
You can Matt, but not, not the rest of us.

1106
00:59:03,678 --> 00:59:04,548
Um, okay.

1107
00:59:04,628 --> 00:59:07,358
So it is 7.

1108
00:59:07,428 --> 00:59:07,858
01.

1109
00:59:07,858 --> 00:59:09,348
Thank you so much for joining us, Dan.

1110
00:59:09,348 --> 00:59:10,478
Thanks for stepping in last minute.

1111
00:59:10,498 --> 00:59:11,388
Any last words?

1112
00:59:11,688 --> 00:59:11,978
No.

1113
00:59:12,618 --> 00:59:14,578
Well, get in touch if you.

1114
00:59:15,268 --> 00:59:19,478
If you've got any questions, please, it
doesn't stop now, he's still emailing.

1115
00:59:19,479 --> 00:59:19,698
Yeah,

1116
00:59:19,698 --> 00:59:21,638
yeah, absolutely, get
in touch, let us know.

1117
00:59:22,048 --> 00:59:26,248
You can reach us via the website, which
you can see on the screen down below, www.

1118
00:59:26,278 --> 00:59:26,508
crowd.

1119
00:59:26,658 --> 00:59:29,188
church, or on social
media, at Crowd Church.

1120
00:59:29,578 --> 00:59:31,498
We are on Facebook and Instagram.

1121
00:59:31,838 --> 00:59:33,878
Not that active on
Facebook, not going to lie.

1122
00:59:34,198 --> 00:59:35,338
We need to get better at it.

1123
00:59:35,518 --> 00:59:38,968
Instagram, usually somebody
checks it once a week.

1124
00:59:39,638 --> 00:59:41,698
But on the website, if you
go to the website, crowd.

1125
00:59:41,698 --> 00:59:42,488
church, you'll see a WhatsApp.

1126
00:59:43,263 --> 00:59:46,693
That =number, if you message in, don't
call on it because it doesn't go through

1127
00:59:46,693 --> 00:59:52,333
to a phone, but if you message in, usually
someone will get back to you on that.

1128
00:59:52,798 --> 00:59:53,288
number.

1129
00:59:53,628 --> 00:59:55,608
Hopefully it should be working.

1130
00:59:57,018 --> 00:59:58,968
So thank you so much for joining us.

1131
00:59:59,028 --> 01:00:00,428
Uh, thanks for joining me.

1132
01:00:00,438 --> 01:00:01,588
Thanks for joining Dan.

1133
01:00:02,158 --> 01:00:05,038
It's been great to see
you have a fantastic week

1134
01:00:05,358 --> 01:00:07,038
wherever you are in the world.

1135
01:00:07,128 --> 01:00:09,658
Uh, and Dan and I will
see you very, very soon.

1136
01:00:10,698 --> 01:00:11,168
All right.

1137
01:00:11,508 --> 01:00:11,938
God bless you.

1138
01:00:14,352 --> 01:00:18,132
Thank you so much for joining
us here on crowd church.

1139
01:00:18,482 --> 01:00:23,382
Now, if you are watching on YouTube, make
sure you hit the subscribe button as well

1140
01:00:23,382 --> 01:00:29,372
as that little tiny bell notification to
get notified the next time we are live.

1141
01:00:29,462 --> 01:00:33,587
And of course, If you are listening to
the podcast, uh, the live stream podcast,

1142
01:00:33,617 --> 01:00:37,047
make sure you also hit the follow button.

1143
01:00:37,347 --> 01:00:42,007
Now, by smashing the like button
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1144
01:00:42,017 --> 01:00:46,627
your podcast platform, it helps us
reach more people with the message.

1145
01:00:46,897 --> 01:00:52,107
that Jesus really does help us live a
more meaningful and purposeful life.

1146
01:00:52,467 --> 01:00:58,647
So if you haven't done so already,
be sure to check out our website www.

1147
01:00:58,707 --> 01:00:59,067
crowd.

1148
01:00:59,367 --> 01:01:04,007
church where you can learn more
about us as a church, more about

1149
01:01:04,007 --> 01:01:08,977
the Christian faith and also how to
connect into our church community.

1150
01:01:09,707 --> 01:01:15,037
It has been Awesome to connect
with you and you are awesome.

1151
01:01:15,187 --> 01:01:20,227
It's just a burden you have to bear
and hopefully we'll see you next time.

1152
01:01:20,407 --> 01:01:21,167
That's it from us.

1153
01:01:21,297 --> 01:01:22,017
God bless you.

1154
01:01:22,657 --> 01:01:23,127
Bye for now.