Marriage is not working for a good percentage of the population.
Speaker AWhat is happening?
Speaker AWhat is it about marriage that that ruins our sex life, if you will, or that, like, makes it kind of go away for many people?
Karen BigmanWelcome to the Taboo to Truth podcast.
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Speaker AToday I want to ponder the question, is marriage what's wrong with your sex life?
Speaker AI'm not anti marriage, so let's not start with that.
Speaker AI believe marriage is right for some people and it was right for me for 26 years.
Speaker ASo I'm not, I'm not dissing marriage, but I just want to talk about, you know, how did marriage come about?
Speaker AMarriage came about as a financial contract.
Speaker ASo she had a dowry.
Speaker AHe married her to take care of her, and it was a contract between families.
Speaker AWe didn't live that long.
Speaker ASo when you were marrying somebody, maybe in your teens or your early 20s, maybe you lived into your 40s.
Speaker ASo we probably didn't have the divorce rates that we do today.
Speaker ABut today, as we all know, divorce rates are really high.
Speaker AThey're over 50% for first marriages over 60 per second, and they're over 70 for third.
Speaker AMarriage is not working for a good percentage of the population.
Speaker AWhat is happening?
Speaker AWhat is it about marriage that that ruins our sex life, if you will, or that, like, makes it kind of go away for many people?
Speaker AWell, when you meet somebody, right, what's the first thing that you think about?
Speaker AIt's that physical attraction, right?
Speaker AIt's like, oh, I really this person.
Speaker AAnd then you get physically attracted, and as you get to know them better, you get an emotional attachment, and then eventually you want to spend the rest of your life with them because you fall in love with them, right?
Speaker ABut once you're in that kind of safe, comfortable space, you're never going to get that kind of new relationship energy, that, like, tingly feeling.
Speaker AMaybe not never, but it's not gonna be the same kind of tingly feeling that you had when you first started the relationship.
Speaker ANow marriage has these kind of.
Speaker AI don't know if they're arbitrary, but there's certain shoulds in marriage.
Speaker AWe should be monogamous, is one, we should be having regular sex and we should make babies.
Speaker AThat's just a couple of shoulds about marriage right now, that maybe those shoulds are good for you.
Speaker AMaybe they're not shoulds, maybe they're have tos, maybe they're want tos, but they are kind of the rules of engagement, if you will, some of them.
Speaker AAnd as these things happen, as you start having a family, as life goes on, as parents age, as work, et cetera, sex can become a chore.
Speaker AIt becomes something that is less spontaneous and it's not something that you like, jump into bed with each other.
Speaker AAnd eventually what I hear is that many couples just stop having sex now.
Speaker AWhether it's because they, they lack the new energy or they have physical issues from menopause, from anthropos, but that starts to fade.
Speaker AAnd so your sex life basically becomes either non existent or as I have one friend who dubbed it, husband's sex people.
Speaker AIt's a chore that you do as a favor to your partner.
Speaker AI actually have friends that do it so their husband will kind of take out the trash.
Speaker AIt's like, I'll, I'll give you sex if you do this for me.
Speaker AThe very things that brought you together now are that, you know, that made you really want your partner physically so badly, they're not there anymore.
Speaker ASo sex is, is not something that it used to be.
Speaker AHowever, there is hope.
Speaker ASo in all doom and gloom, doesn't mean you're never going to have sex life.
Speaker AIs it work?
Speaker ANot necessarily.
Speaker AYou can make it kind of fun to, to fix things up.
Speaker ASo research shows that couples that have good sex lives have better relationships that last longer.
Speaker AYou ever see those couples in their 50s and 60s and 70s holding hands still?
Speaker AI.
Speaker AI had a neighbor that, you know, they were five kids and they held hands as long as I can remember.
Speaker AThey were always holding hands.
Speaker ALike, I bet they had some really great sex.
Speaker ABut the hardest thing to do is to start to get back into sex after you've not had it for a really long time.
Speaker AWhen you've gotten into a rut, if you go to a marriage counselor, I know they said this to me, I even had, when I went by myself, they say, why don't you try dance lessons?
Speaker AI get the idea of dance lessons because like it's very intimate.
Speaker AYou're moving together and all that.
Speaker ABut like really, I mean my ex had two left feet.
Speaker ALike there was no way dancing was happening.
Speaker ABut you need to start to get a conversation going or you're never going to have sex again.
Karen BigmanRight.
Speaker AAnd we're all sexual beings and sex can be a lot of fun and if you love your partner, you can get it back.
Speaker AI would start by having the conversation in some way that is, is sort of easy.
Speaker AOh, I was listening to this podcast.
Speaker AOr send a link to the podcast or send a link to something that was kind of interesting or an article.
Speaker ATry not to look at them when you're talking.
Speaker AIf it's uncomfortable for you, like washing the dishes in the car, turned around, hey honey, how about.
Speaker AIs it okay?
Speaker ACan we.
Speaker AAnd plant the seed.
Speaker APlant the seed of having the conversation and then you can kind of co.
Speaker ACreate a list of possibilities.
Speaker AThere's something called the yes, no, maybe list.
Speaker ASo maybe each of you create a list of possibilities.
Speaker AAnd it doesn't have to be crazy wild sex parties.
Speaker AIt can be something very simple.
Speaker AI like to suggest sexual snacking.
Speaker ASo this is a combination of terms I, I've heard and I put them together because I think sexual snacking is the best way to reignite a new, some more sexual energy in your, in your relationship if it, if you haven't had it for a very long time.
Speaker ASo one idea, it's super simple, touch the small of her back or his.
Speaker AAnother is to have really, really long hugs when you are leaving each other.
Speaker AOr you know, we just come in the room, just hug.
Speaker AThe Gottmans actually their, their relationship famous relationship therapists and they say a six second kiss and a 20 second hug and nose release all the oxytocin that make you really feel good.
Speaker ASo that's what you want to aim for.
Speaker AYou can try sexting your partner.
Speaker ALike maybe it's just a funny meme or maybe it's something like hey baby, like will you meet me in the bathroom at 6:00?
Speaker AI don't know, whatever.
Speaker ASomething, something that is not usual for you.
Speaker AOr how about we you decide to try to get intimate in a different place in the kitchen.
Speaker AThat's always been a sexy place for me.
Speaker AI always like doing it in the kitchen for some weird reason I love to cook.
Speaker AMaybe that has something to do with it.
Speaker AOrder something new and surprise your partner.
Speaker AOr you can order like sensory play hot wax or a feather or a new vibrator.
Speaker AOr maybe just greet them differently like wearing something different.
Speaker AGreet them in your underwear.
Speaker AOr maybe if the kids are home, you kind of say, hey, honey, come in the bedroom for a minute and you give them a taste of what they might get later.
Speaker AThere's plenty of opportunities to be able to kind of just slowly get that spark back.
Speaker ANo?
Speaker AIs it ever going to be the same as it was when you first started?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker ABut to quote Esther Perel, she says you can have different relationships with the same person.
Speaker ASo the key is to create a new relationship with an old partner.
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